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RoosterMemphis · January 2014

youtubebeauties said:

RoosterMemphis said:

Coconuthead said:
I actually agree to an extent with @youtubebeauties on this one. We should treat drug addiction as a mental and physical issue, not a criminal one. People wouldn't be mixing up random chemicals in their homes at the risk of imprisonment if they could purchase a guaranteed pure product that was heavily regulated yet legal. Also I am all for ending the "war on drugs", having lived close to Juarez for many years. So much blood spilled and innocents getting caught in the crossfire. Where is the benefit? Not even an inch of ground has been gained.

I am not sure if complete legalization is the answer but something different has to happen.

Addiction is a disease. It makes the person bodily and mentally different from their fellows.
Legalizing it, however, isn't going to help that or change it. Alcohol is legal and regulated. Doesn't make a difference to the alcoholic suffering from their disease.

I agree with you 100% in that addiction is a disease.

However, would you agree that the 'war on drugs', as it stands now is effective in reducing drug use and the crimes associated with usage? Legalization would decrease crimes associated with drugs. You're right in that legalization won't in any way change whether or not someone dealing with addiction will still continue to choose to use. All that I'm suggesting is that our drug policies and judicial processes associated with drug use and subsequent crimes aren't working; we need to do something different.

I really have no opinion on the drug wars. I'm just concerned with the addicts still suffering.

Coconuthead · January 2014

RoosterMemphis said:

Coconuthead said:
I actually agree to an extent with @youtubebeauties on this one. We should treat drug addiction as a mental and physical issue, not a criminal one. People wouldn't be mixing up random chemicals in their homes at the risk of imprisonment if they could purchase a guaranteed pure product that was heavily regulated yet legal. Also I am all for ending the "war on drugs", having lived close to Juarez for many years. So much blood spilled and innocents getting caught in the crossfire. Where is the benefit? Not even an inch of ground has been gained.

I am not sure if complete legalization is the answer but something different has to happen.

Addiction is a disease. It makes the person bodily and mentally different from their fellows.
Legalizing it, however, isn't going to help that or change it. Alcohol is legal and regulated. Doesn't make a difference to the alcoholic suffering from their disease.

I agree completely. That is why I think we need to focus on the mental and physical damage that drugs can do, and helping rehab addicts. I don't think that legalization is necessarily the answer but I think we need to at least:

1) Stop the war on drugs. Violence begets violence and drug cartels have nothing to lose. They don't care if a million innocents die as long as long as their business continues to thrive, which it will. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction and no matter how much we push them they will always push back with equal force.

2) Focus on drug addiction as an illness rather than a blight on society and helping to heal individuals rather than label them as criminals.

Also I consider alcohol to be a drug. It is a drug, albeit a legal one.

RoosterMemphis · January 2014

Coconuthead said:

RoosterMemphis said:

Coconuthead said:
I actually agree to an extent with @youtubebeauties on this one. We should treat drug addiction as a mental and physical issue, not a criminal one. People wouldn't be mixing up random chemicals in their homes at the risk of imprisonment if they could purchase a guaranteed pure product that was heavily regulated yet legal. Also I am all for ending the "war on drugs", having lived close to Juarez for many years. So much blood spilled and innocents getting caught in the crossfire. Where is the benefit? Not even an inch of ground has been gained.

I am not sure if complete legalization is the answer but something different has to happen.

Addiction is a disease. It makes the person bodily and mentally different from their fellows.
Legalizing it, however, isn't going to help that or change it. Alcohol is legal and regulated. Doesn't make a difference to the alcoholic suffering from their disease.
I agree completely. That is why I think we need to focus on the mental and physical damage that drugs can do, and helping rehab addicts. I don't think that legalization is necessarily the answer but I think we need to at least:

1) Stop the war on drugs. Violence begets violence and drug cartels have nothing to lose. They don't care if a million innocents die as long as long as their business continues to thrive, which it will. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction and no matter how much we push them they will always push back with equal force.

2) Focus on drug addiction as an illness rather than a blight on society and helping to heal individuals rather than label them as criminals.

Also I consider alcohol to be a drug. It is a drug, albeit a legal one.

That's what 12 step programs are there for. One addict talking to another. Not a "normal" person talking to an addict.

sfeebs13 · January 2014

RoosterMemphis said:

RoosterMemphis said:

I actually agree to an extent with @youtubebeauties on this one. We should treat drug addiction as a mental and physical issue, not a criminal one. People wouldn't be mixing up random chemicals in their homes at the risk of imprisonment if they could purchase a guaranteed pure product that was heavily regulated yet legal. Also I am all for ending the "war on drugs", having lived close to Juarez for many years. So much blood spilled and innocents getting caught in the crossfire. Where is the benefit? Not even an inch of ground has been gained. I am not sure if complete legalization is the answer but something different has to happen.
Addiction is a disease. It makes the person bodily and mentally different from their fellows. Legalizing it, however, isn't going to help that or change it. Alcohol is legal and regulated. Doesn't make a difference to the alcoholic suffering from their disease.

I agree with you 100% in that addiction is a disease.

However, would you agree that the 'war on drugs', as it stands now is effective in reducing drug use and the crimes associated with usage? Legalization would decrease crimes associated with drugs. You're right in that legalization won't in any way change whether or not someone dealing with addiction will still continue to choose to use. All that I'm suggesting is that our drug policies and judicial processes associated with drug use and subsequent crimes aren't working; we need to do something different.
I really have no opinion on the drug wars. I'm just concerned with the addicts still suffering.

This. Just this.

youtubebeauties · January 2014

RoosterMemphis said:

RoosterMemphis said:

I actually agree to an extent with @youtubebeauties on this one. We should treat drug addiction as a mental and physical issue, not a criminal one. People wouldn't be mixing up random chemicals in their homes at the risk of imprisonment if they could purchase a guaranteed pure product that was heavily regulated yet legal. Also I am all for ending the "war on drugs", having lived close to Juarez for many years. So much blood spilled and innocents getting caught in the crossfire. Where is the benefit? Not even an inch of ground has been gained. I am not sure if complete legalization is the answer but something different has to happen.
Addiction is a disease. It makes the person bodily and mentally different from their fellows. Legalizing it, however, isn't going to help that or change it. Alcohol is legal and regulated. Doesn't make a difference to the alcoholic suffering from their disease.

I agree with you 100% in that addiction is a disease.

However, would you agree that the 'war on drugs', as it stands now is effective in reducing drug use and the crimes associated with usage? Legalization would decrease crimes associated with drugs. You're right in that legalization won't in any way change whether or not someone dealing with addiction will still continue to choose to use. All that I'm suggesting is that our drug policies and judicial processes associated with drug use and subsequent crimes aren't working; we need to do something different.
I really have no opinion on the drug wars. I'm just concerned with the addicts still suffering.

I can appreciate that.

TurtleMomma · January 2014

I hate toaster strudel.

Take THAT mean girls.

Cosmic+Love · January 2014

youtubebeauties said:

Cosmic+Love said:

I don't like objective, favorable adjectives in SNs. It's great that you have self confidence, but using pretty, beautiful, cute, etc. as part of your internet identity is a little tween-ish.

Is this directed at me? We can discuss if you'd like.

Yes, it is directed to you and anyone else with similar descriptions in their SN. What is there to discuss really?

youtubebeauties · January 2014

Soleil3 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

youtubebeauties said:

Cosmic+Love said:

I don't like objective, favorable adjectives in SNs. It's great that you have self confidence, but using pretty, beautiful, cute, etc. as part of your internet identity is a little tween-ish.

Is this directed at me? We can discuss if you'd like.

Let's discuss….. What's the story behind your sn?

ETA- No snark, but I thought your avatar was someone mooning someone. I had to click it and make it big to find out it was just a doggie.

Here's the story: once upon a time, I had a Youtube beauty channel. I referred to my viewers as 'youtube beauties', as 90% of them were unbelievably supportive & kind to me. When I created my bump profile over a year ago, I was still making videos for my channel. As such, my SN is an homage to those viewers.

And yes, my bulldog's head can look a bit like an ass.

TrueBeliever925 · January 2014

TurtleMomma said:

I hate toaster strudel. Take THAT mean girls.

Pop Tarts are farrrr superior.

But just for shits and giggles...

LJUTCMommy · January 2014

Soleil3 said:

LJUTCMommy said:
Pretty much. Generally, they wish to repeal all drug laws creating "crimes" without victimes. IE, if you do drugs and you're only harming yourself, it should not be illegal. Now, if you're stealing for drug money or DUI, then that is considered criminal activity.

*snip*

Now I don't align myself with any party, and generally stay out of politics completely, but why would that be a bad idea? To butt out and let those who want to destroy themselves, do so?

Oh I don't think it is, at all. I actually agree with the libertarians on many issues.

Edit: Grammar

LJUTCMommy · January 2014

youtubebeauties said:

Soleil3 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

youtubebeauties said:

Cosmic+Love said:

I don't like objective, favorable adjectives in SNs. It's great that you have self confidence, but using pretty, beautiful, cute, etc. as part of your internet identity is a little tween-ish.

Is this directed at me? We can discuss if you'd like.

Let's discuss….. What's the story behind your sn?

ETA- No snark, but I thought your avatar was someone mooning someone. I had to click it and make it big to find out it was just a doggie.

Here's the story: once upon a time, I had a Youtube beauty channel. I referred to my viewers as 'youtube beauties', as 90% of them were unbelievably supportive & kind to me. When I created my bump profile over a year ago, I was still making videos for my channel. As such, my SN is an homage to those viewers.

And yes, my bulldog's head can look a bit like an ass.

I thought your Avatar was an uncooked, whole chicken on a keyboard.

youtubebeauties · January 2014

Cosmic+Love said:

youtubebeauties said:

Cosmic+Love said:

I don't like objective, favorable adjectives in SNs. It's great that you have self confidence, but using pretty, beautiful, cute, etc. as part of your internet identity is a little tween-ish.

Is this directed at me? We can discuss if you'd like.

Yes, it is directed to you and anyone else with similar descriptions in their SN. What is there to discuss really?

It would seem to me if you take issue with this, it would make more sense to ask that person directly, rather than making a blanket statement like this & poking the bear.

Revez · January 2014

pfftyouarenuts said:

TurtleMomma said:

I hate toaster strudel.

Take THAT mean girls.

Pop Tarts are farrrr superior.

But just for shits and giggles...

Poptarts are a dry, sad excuse for a breakfast pastry. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

youtubebeauties · January 2014

LJUTCMommy said:

youtubebeauties said:

Soleil3 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

youtubebeauties said:

Cosmic+Love said:

I don't like objective, favorable adjectives in SNs. It's great that you have self confidence, but using pretty, beautiful, cute, etc. as part of your internet identity is a little tween-ish.

Is this directed at me? We can discuss if you'd like.

Let's discuss….. What's the story behind your sn?

ETA- No snark, but I thought your avatar was someone mooning someone. I had to click it and make it big to find out it was just a doggie.

Here's the story: once upon a time, I had a Youtube beauty channel. I referred to my viewers as 'youtube beauties', as 90% of them were unbelievably supportive & kind to me. When I created my bump profile over a year ago, I was still making videos for my channel. As such, my SN is an homage to those viewers.

And yes, my bulldog's head can look a bit like an ass.

I thought your Avatar was an uncooked, whole chicken on a keyboard.

Funny! Random, but funny.

TrueBeliever925 · January 2014

Revez said:

TurtleMomma said:

I hate toaster strudel. Take THAT mean girls.

Pop Tarts are farrrr superior.

But just for shits and giggles...

Poptarts are a dry, sad excuse for a breakfast pastry. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

MommyKristin88 · January 2014

youtubebeauties said:

Soleil3 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

youtubebeauties said:

Cosmic+Love said:

I don't like objective, favorable adjectives in SNs. It's great that you have self confidence, but using pretty, beautiful, cute, etc. as part of your internet identity is a little tween-ish.
Is this directed at me? We can discuss if you'd like.
Let's discuss….. What's the story behind your sn?

ETA- No snark, but I thought your avatar was someone mooning someone. I had to click it and make it big to find out it was just a doggie.

Here's the story: once upon a time, I had a Youtube beauty channel. I referred to my viewers as 'youtube beauties', as 90% of them were unbelievably supportive & kind to me. When I created my bump profile over a year ago, I was still making videos for my channel. As such, my SN is an homage to those viewers.

And yes, my bulldog's head can look a bit like an ass.

why did you stop making videos?

Marvel1013 · January 2014

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youtubebeauties · January 2014

MommyKristin88 said:

youtubebeauties said:

Soleil3 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

youtubebeauties said:

Cosmic+Love said:

I don't like objective, favorable adjectives in SNs. It's great that you have self confidence, but using pretty, beautiful, cute, etc. as part of your internet identity is a little tween-ish.
Is this directed at me? We can discuss if you'd like.
Let's discuss….. What's the story behind your sn?

ETA- No snark, but I thought your avatar was someone mooning someone. I had to click it and make it big to find out it was just a doggie.

Here's the story: once upon a time, I had a Youtube beauty channel. I referred to my viewers as 'youtube beauties', as 90% of them were unbelievably supportive & kind to me. When I created my bump profile over a year ago, I was still making videos for my channel. As such, my SN is an homage to those viewers.

And yes, my bulldog's head can look a bit like an ass.
why did you stop making videos?

Because after trying & trying & trying I finally got KU & making videos reviewing the latest foundations just didn't seem that important anymore.

WheeLinTheSky3 · January 2014

Theusualmischief said:

Jill9288 said:

Inspired by the massive amount of Bizzare Foods I've watched the last week: I think Americans tend to be too conservative in their food choices. A Big Mac is ok but we would freak out at the idea of eating a guinea pig? Also food related. Not all restaraunt a are baby/child friendly. I don't see anything wrong with some places having a no kids policy.

Similarly, I think it's a shame what American's have done to "ethnic" foods. From my limited experience, restaurants that serve "Mexican" or "Chinese" foods here in the midwest rarely serve anything remotely authentic. The UO part of this is that I still really like those foods...

Also, we eat venison in our house and LOVE it. There is a huge stigma about hunting, but without it we would be a completely different house. The money we save on meat alone is crazy, not to mention how much healthier we are for eating such a lean meat that is grass fed, organic, free range, etc. etc. Buying beef with that "pedigree" would be insane. Yes there are dipshits out there who hunt to kill and deserve the stigma and hatred. We hunt to eat, respect the animals and the applicable laws, and cook some damn good food with it.

No judgment here. MH hunts and we have a freezer full of Venison. He takes it seriously and knows what he is doing (i.e. no missed shots where an animal suffers, etc.) I would much rather eat venison from my own yard than ground beef full of God knows what. He also donates any meat that we cant use to a program called hunters for the hungry. I volunteer at a food bank and if we didn't get that donated venison, a lot of times we wouldn't have enough meat for everyone.

Speshul · January 2014

So...I'm not special???

Coconuthead · January 2014

@Roostermemphis I agree with you about 12 step programs. I do not agree about jail however. If addiction is a disease, and I believe it is, then jail is not the place for it. We put people in jail for being criminals, not for having an illness.

I am not sure I am debating with you because mostly I agree with what you are saying.

RoosterMemphis · January 2014

Coconuthead said:
@Roostermemphis I agree with you about 12 step programs. I do not agree about jail however. If addiction is a disease, and I believe it is, then jail is not the place for it. We put people in jail for being criminals, not for having an illness.

I am not sure I am debating with you because mostly I agree with what you are saying.

I understand where you are coming from. But they are in jail by consequences to their actions regardless if they have a disease. I personally know tons of people that found the 12 steps in jail and are sober today because of that. Thank fucking god for that.

Eta- I really can't comment much more on this publicly. But just know that if there were no consequences to the actions of alcoholics, it would be far more difficult to see how it effects them or their families. Not just jail, but in all aspects of their lives.

LokiLahve · January 2014

KatieS7 said:
They can legalize drugs to the high ( ) heavens and it's still not going to stop "Joe" who cooks meth in his bathtub and sells it for half the price. Alcohol is legal but people are still making moonshine and selling it for a profit illegally.

This, exactly. You legalize & regulate it, great. Now it's available for even MORE people to get hooked on, ON TOP of the dealers who will continue to make it on their own.

Revez · January 2014

pfftyouarenuts said:

Revez said:

pfftyouarenuts said:

TurtleMomma said:

I hate toaster strudel.

Take THAT mean girls.

Pop Tarts are farrrr superior.

But just for shits and giggles...

Poptarts are a dry, sad excuse for a breakfast pastry. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

BlueJewelM · January 2014

I want to watch youtubebeauties YouTube beauty videos.

JaymeMac · January 2014

I can't think of anything good...but I was here!!! =;

Speshul · January 2014

MommyKristin88 said:

Cosmic+Love said:

I don't like objective, favorable adjectives in SNs. It's great that you have self confidence, but using pretty, beautiful, cute, etc. as part of your internet identity is a little tween-ish.
And usually not true

I tried a few names and they were not available so I picked mine by basically doing this:

Although I admit I did not check to see if ShortSortaChubbyWithBabyWeightProgrammerEngineerHappyMommy2013 was available.

LJUTCMommy · January 2014

pfftyouarenuts said:

Revez said:

TurtleMomma said:

I hate toaster strudel. Take THAT mean girls.

Pop Tarts are farrrr superior.

But just for shits and giggles...

Poptarts are a dry, sad excuse for a breakfast pastry. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

True Story. In middle school, my cousin and I referred to ugly boys as "toaster strudels," because we thought they were gross.

TrueBeliever925 · January 2014

Revez said:

JUSTTTTT KIDDDDDING!

Especially after posting The Fox & The Hound.

MynaBird · January 2014

youtubebeauties said:
It would seem to me if you take issue with this, it would make more sense to ask that person directly, rather than making a blanket statement like this & poking the bear.

Heheheh. You said "poking."

Cosmic+Love · January 2014

youtubebeauties said:

Cosmic+Love said:

youtubebeauties said:

Cosmic+Love said:

I don't like objective, favorable adjectives in SNs. It's great that you have self confidence, but using pretty, beautiful, cute, etc. as part of your internet identity is a little tween-ish.

Is this directed at me? We can discuss if you'd like.

Yes, it is directed to you and anyone else with similar descriptions in their SN. What is there to discuss really?

It would seem to me if you take issue with this, it would make more sense to ask that person directly, rather than making a blanket statement like this & poking the bear.

I don't have anything to ask you about your SN. I made a statement. And as I mentioned before, you aren't the only one this applies to - on this forum or on others. If I were going to personally call you out on something, it would be about this ridiculous idea to legalize all drugs.

LJUTCMommy · January 2014

WheeLinTheSky3 said:

Theusualmischief said:

Jill9288 said:

Inspired by the massive amount of Bizzare Foods I've watched the last week: I think Americans tend to be too conservative in their food choices. A Big Mac is ok but we would freak out at the idea of eating a guinea pig? Also food related. Not all restaraunt a are baby/child friendly. I don't see anything wrong with some places having a no kids policy.

Similarly, I think it's a shame what American's have done to "ethnic" foods. From my limited experience, restaurants that serve "Mexican" or "Chinese" foods here in the midwest rarely serve anything remotely authentic. The UO part of this is that I still really like those foods...

Also, we eat venison in our house and LOVE it. There is a huge stigma about hunting, but without it we would be a completely different house. The money we save on meat alone is crazy, not to mention how much healthier we are for eating such a lean meat that is grass fed, organic, free range, etc. etc. Buying beef with that "pedigree" would be insane. Yes there are dipshits out there who hunt to kill and deserve the stigma and hatred. We hunt to eat, respect the animals and the applicable laws, and cook some damn good food with it.

No judgment here. MH hunts and we have a freezer full of Venison. He takes it seriously and knows what he is doing (i.e. no missed shots where an animal suffers, etc.) I would much rather eat venison from my own yard than ground beef full of God knows what. He also donates any meat that we cant use to a program called hunters for the hungry. I volunteer at a food bank and if we didn't get that donated venison, a lot of times we wouldn't have enough meat for everyone.

Venison is the hot new item for all of DH's clients. He just did two events last week that were $100 a plate, venison-as-the-main course dinners. It's becoming pretty popular in SoCal too.

youtubebeauties · January 2014

BlueJewelM said:

I want to watch youtubebeauties YouTube beauty videos.

Sorry lady, I took down my channel a looong time ago. But just because you asked, I'll see what I can do to get something uploaded to YT. Just for you

CaliforniaDream87 · January 2014

Soleil3 said:
Yeah, I guess it is a big UO to me. I could never imagine being subservient to my partner, we are equals.

I have to agree @soleil3. I grew up in a household with "the man is the head of the household" beliefs. Yea...not having it. We are equals and BOTH of our opinions matter at the end of the day. No, I will not allow my H to think his opinion weighs any heavier than mine. No need because thankfully my H doesn't believe that theory either.

Equals, period.

LokiLahve · January 2014

I think women should have register for selective service at 18 just like men. You want equality...it should apply here as well.

Not sure if this has been brought up before on UO.?

BelhurstBride · January 2014

youtubebeauties said:
It would seem to me if you take issue with this, it would make more sense to ask that person directly, rather than making a blanket statement like this & poking the bear.

sfeebs13 · January 2014

@belhurstbride... What kind of animal is that? It's cute in a creepy way.. No way it's a bear.

BelhurstBride · January 2014

It's a yawning baby sloth.

Soleil3 · January 2014

LJUTCMommy said:
Venison is the hot new item for all of DH's clients. He just did two events last week that were $100 a plate, venison-as-the-main course dinners. It's becoming pretty popular in SoCal too.

NJ will be rich!

Revez · January 2014

CaliforniaDream87 said:

Yeah, I guess it is a big UO to me. I could never imagine being subservient to my partner, we are equals.

I have to agree @soleil3. I grew up in a household with "the man is the head of the household" beliefs. Yea...not having it. We are equals and BOTH of our opinions matter at the end of the day. No, I will not allow my H to think his opinion weighs any heavier than mine. No need because thankfully my H doesn't believe that theory either. Equals, period.

This is me. My dad tells me to this day that I need to serve my H. He's mad that I plan to return to work as it's the "woman's roll" to stay home, raise the children and cook/clean for her husband. I should do as he says and respect his word as law (

) ). It really cheeses me off.

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