starting over

Flutterby00 · January 2014

You really need to think about what you are saying before you post it. Do you know how expensive those IVF "science" treatments are? People don't start the process of IVF lightheartedly, yet how many unplanned and unwanted pregnancies happen from "love"making. I can guarantee 0% of IVF babies are aborted or put up for adoption, those parents REALLY want their child and it's such a special miracle! So what makes you better than them??? My baby isn't IVF, but my SIL's baby IS and I am so excited for them, they have been wanting this baby for 6+ years. You have to know saying stupid shit like this isn't going to go over well on a pregnancy forum. Please go elsewhere.

babygiantquest · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

Thanks to those of you that were helpful. I'll look into the website rules about creating a new account.

We are being helpful. You just aren't listening.

spacepotatoes · January 2014

I don't disagree that the way she expressed her views was totally inappropriate. All I'm saying is that I think she could benefit from the information shared on this board. If she'll make the effort to understand why her actions were offensive and provide a genuine apology, I'd like to see the ladies of the board give her another chance, rather than just calling her a "cuntwagon" and telling her to GTFO (both of which, as far as I'm concerned, are equally as immature as her initial posts).

@toratoratori A genuine question - where, in any of the posts this girl has written, have you gotten the impression that she is open to learning anything from these boards? There is no wisdom to be gained when someone is not open to it and she most definitely is not. The half-assed non-apology in this thread makes that pretty clear.

@ladyabagail How's that block list of yours coming? Feel free to block all of May 14 while you're at it. We're not crazy about your presence on these boards either.

PixiesDust · January 2014

It's true that

BUT I still think

and even if you change your s/n

So please, do us all a favor and

DETrent · January 2014

#oct13FTW

sleepy33 · January 2014

Dear @ladyabagail

hlb622 · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

I see we started out wrong due to my confession on the flame free board which should be titled feel free to flame but that's a whole other post. I did not post to offend anyone and my comments were about my sil not anyone here. I did not mean for it to be taken so personally. There a lots of topics that not everyone will agree on and apparently I posted a caused a big disaster. Being this is my birth month board too I will continue to post here until at least August. Those of you that would like to be adults and move on , thanks. The others that continue to bash me will just be blocked. I have no plans to leave this board so we can either just get along or pretend one another don't exist. That is all.♡♥♡♡♥♡♥♡♡♡♡♡♡♡

...oh, and

Luckyu317 · January 2014

Lurking from May '14 because this crazy bitch just keeps popping up Everywhere. Please explain to us WHY the f*ck you are so insistent on going through the efforts of creating a new profile and staying on this site when Everyone hates you? You will gain no friends here and certainly will not receive any support because you have behaved like a horrible person (and a childish, selfish brat). You have offended so many people.
Oh, and I am Still waiting for you to tell us all with ''science babies'' (see, we don't just forget about it), What the point is that your SIL is trying to prove? If you Really want to apologize, which None of us believe you do, nor do we care, maybe you should explain what you really meant, since in Your own words, you didn't mean to offend anyone.

Third&goal · January 2014

I don't think you realize what you have done to offend so many women on this board. Until you realize that plenty of "science babies" are created with PLENTY of love, I don't believe you could even offer a sincere apology. Please go ahead and block me.

CMSullivan326 · January 2014

@toratoratori

I actually think she's been treated nicer than she deserves.

jlynn62511 · January 2014

I read your comments in FFFC. I was so shocked by your comments, I just had to click out of the thread. I started out on this site at the TTGP board, I was so luckily to be able to conceive without the help of doctors. There are really great women on that board who have been trying for months/years to get pregnant. There are many great women on this board who needed help. How dare you judge them for wanting to do whatever they possibly can to have their take home babies!

You really need to think before you post and think about what you say and how it will affect another.

If you block me so be it, but if you really wanted to start over that was a terrible apology! I have much more respect for someone who pulls up their big girl panties, admits they are wrong, and then apologies. That my dear was not even close to an apology!

greenbeanqueen · January 2014

Dec 13 here

Op I really dont think you understand just how many people you pissed off. You didn't say that you are against using ivf for religious beliefs (as is a valid argument for many religions) you said that ivf babies are lesser people than babies made by "love". I tell you one thing, a lot more love goes into ivf than one night of hanky panky. And I know plenty of sex made babies whose parents can't stand each other and were a one night stand at best. Grow up and go away. You don't get to "start over". No one in tb wants you.

salsy2012 · January 2014

Ha! You wish lady.

lestex · January 2014

@ladyabagail

The FIRST line in your confession was "I just can't get excited about artificial or ivf pregnancies." THAT has nothing to do with your sister. That is an attack on ALL women who have had IVF. I conceived naturally just like you, and would never think that my uterus was superior to anyone else's. Well... besides yours. My uterus is WAY hotter than yours. Yes, you're upset because your SIL is upstaging you in life but who wouldn't? Simply thinking that thought was idiotic but actually TYPING it, thinking, "Yeah, this is fine" and posting was insanely D.U.M.B. I will never reply to any other post you start. You're on my list.

jnsmith85 · January 2014

#Oct13hatesyou

sleepy33 · January 2014

LoisLayn23 said:

Ok but we already did this for 17 pages once before. Can we not repeat this? Horse is dead. OP sucks and won't be forgotten.

But...but...think of the gifs...

Amjoy25 · January 2014

Whenever you think you can speak again, just take Chandler's advice...

sleepy33 · January 2014

Amjoy25 said:

Whenever you think you can speak again, just take Chandler's advice...

PIVOT

Amjoy25 · January 2014

sleepy33 said:

Dear @ladyabagail

I lurve you.

Amjoy25 · January 2014

What's with all the gif hate on this BMB??

I NEED gifs in my lyfe!

singingirl96 · January 2014

kbellizio3 · January 2014

June 14 here...ladyA I was once a teenager and thought there were no consequences for my actions and that I could get away with a half assed (or in your case zero) apologies. I really don't know if you comprehend how many people, and not just mothers, because the fathers are very much involved in IVF, you offended. My husband and I love each other very much, and were lucky enough to be able to conceive without help, but you still offended me. Why? As I said before, my cousins are IVF babies. Long anticipated babies. They are miracle babies. 2 months early because one wasn't breathing and 2lbs or less. They're now 13, the boys are 6 foot tall and the girl is so smart. Because they were "science babies" does that make them any less of my blood? Absolutely not. I think you're being very selfish and jealous of your SIL, and I hope she never learns your feelings and I hope you don't treat your niece or nephew differently because that is not fair to the child. I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't let you near the child if she found out what you said. I don't think you should make a new name here. I don't get along with my SIL but I would never ever wish IF on her or anybody and I would never think of her child less because of my feelings towards her. You need to do some serious self reflection.

jennlin · January 2014

#o13washere
#blockmebitch
#yousuck

sleepy33 · January 2014

LoisLayn23 said:

This isn't any type of party I want to be at. Giffing for fun is awesome. Giffing to keep a dramatic thread and a dramatic person around, not fun.

I'm not sure if the verb ending in -ing version of gif adds an extra F or not but for S&G, I put it in there.

**pssst** then don't click on the thread anymore

jtothenel · January 2014

Go way please. I feel sorry for your husband and your SIL. I bet they don't even know how you TRULY feel bc your coward ass doesn't have the balls to tell them to their faces. UGH! How insensitive can you get?!

curlylocks3 · January 2014

Me and my IVF babies are all side-eying this post.

muffyvonmuff · January 2014

Hey O13 Heyyyyyyyyy

@loislayn23

OP:

GBCB LadyA

flerlgirl · January 2014

Another June 14er here to tell the OP to go away.

eta: didn't realize the thread had been declared dead. I'll just be over here not understand instructions if you need me.

Jalee85 · January 2014

Some people will have to paste the code into the add image URL. That's how I GIF. If I just post it in the main body it doesn't work.

gris37 · January 2014

singingirl96 said:

singingirl96 said:

YES! I was hoping for a team SIL gif! OP's comments were rude and ignorant but I really hope nobody was seriously offended by it. After all, look who it's coming from, a teenager just two years away from being able to be featured on 16 and pregnant. Let's hope her husband truly loves her as much as she says or her baby might lose its miracle status in her eyes.

alesullivan1984 · January 2014

ladyabagail said:
Thanks to those of you that were helpful. I'll look into the website rules about creating a new account.

Here's the thing. If you want to really start over you HAVE to SINCERELY APOLOGIZE first. You also need to stop trying to defend your views that are hurtful. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not all are going to be received well. You weren't just talking about your SIL, you know it and we all know it. You want to act grown up, then try to understand why what you said was not only hurtful, but also incorrect. While I have not shared my IF story I have gone through it. My husband and I have tried to conceive for 3 1/2 years. We went through treatment and have conceived only then and unfortunately had losses as well. We were on a break from treatment when we were blessed to have conceived naturally. That being said that doesn't mean we would have been any less excited if we had conceived through IF treatments. IF is so incredibly hard to go through. For me I felt less of a woman b/c I couldn't do the one thing that as woman was built to do...you feel hopeless. Imagine feeling that way and than imagine insemination, or IVF giving you the hope and chance to be able to carry the most amazing, wonderful miracle, a baby you otherwise could not conceive. All babies are miracles, blessings and loved. How dare you say otherwise. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Starting a new profile won't take back what you said, it won't change how ppl feel, and it's not an apology. If you really want to start over, it would really be best to go elsewhere. You starting a new profile name just proves you aren't sorry and not really wanting to start over. It's just you hiding behind a new name but still the same ugly person.

katiebartton · January 2014

Bump burp

alesullivan1984 · January 2014

ladyabagail said:
I see we started out wrong due to my confession on the flame free board which should be titled feel free to flame but that's a whole other post. I did not post to offend anyone and my comments were about my sil not anyone here. I did not mean for it to be taken so personally. There a lots of topics that not everyone will agree on and apparently I posted a caused a big disaster. Being this is my birth month board too I will continue to post here until at least August. Those of you that would like to be adults and move on , thanks. The others that continue to bash me will just be blocked. I have no plans to leave this board so we can either just get along or pretend one another don't exist. That is all.♡♥♡♡♥♡♥♡♡♡♡♡♡♡

Also why do you so badly want to be part of a group that clearly wants nothing to do with you? I'm not trying to be mean, although no one would care if I was...

Really why? That's just sad.

alesullivan1984 · January 2014

ladyabagail said:
I see we started out wrong due to my confession on the flame free board which should be titled feel free to flame but that's a whole other post. I did not post to offend anyone and my comments were about my sil not anyone here. I did not mean for it to be taken so personally. There a lots of topics that not everyone will agree on and apparently I posted a caused a big disaster. Being this is my birth month board too I will continue to post here until at least August. Those of you that would like to be adults and move on , thanks. The others that continue to bash me will just be blocked. I have no plans to leave this board so we can either just get along or pretend one another don't exist. That is all.♡♥♡♡♥♡♥♡♡♡♡♡♡♡

Also why do you so badly want to be part of a group that clearly wants nothing to do with you? I'm not trying to be mean, although no one would care if I was...

Really why? That's just sad.

BlondieBia21 · January 2014

OP,

from a lurker- you suck.

LouLou918 · January 2014

I LOL'd so hard that @ladyabagail loved @cruelsound's comment. She wasn't defending you... She was saving the mods a headache and more annoyance over the debacle you started.

momthatlifts · January 2014

In from May.

Mamazon2014 · January 2014

I'm not going to get nasty because that is just like trying to mix water and oil, but I am going to once again try to appeal to reason and logic (though I'm not going to hold my breath).

What if I had a post that said something along the lines of "one race of babies was superior to another" because those were simply my "traditional" beliefs? Do you honestly believe even in a "flame free" discussion, that it would go over even remotely well ?

What you said was essentially as bigoted and just as hurtful as that comment because just as someone cannot control the color of their skin, neither can a woman control how her body handles reproduction. You are young, your life experiences are limited, but you are old enough that you should understand that words and actions have consequences that will come back on you. To dismiss it as simply "a difference of opinions" negates any kind of attempt of sincerity that you were trying to belie and enhances the beliefs that you are ignorant, immature, and completely incapable of compassion.

Have you not once, in the course of this entire ordeal stopped to put yourself in any one of the places of the people which you have grievously offended? Or possibly stopped to think what you would do if you were unable to conceive after years of trying?

And I have asked before, but think of what might happen if this child of yours has fertility issues when they are older; could you honestly and sincerely believe that any future grandchild conceived through fertility treatments was not a miracle or could not be as loved had they been conceived "naturally"?

To be on these boards and to be an active member of this community requires an empathy that I do not believe you are mature enough to possess at this time. Had you actually truly apologized for your lack of judgement and censorship, I think you may have stood a chance because it would have shown growth and maturity, however at this point, you have a far ways to go, and I deeply hope for your child's, your husband's, and your own sake that you use this as a window to enlightenment because at 18 years young, the world only gets harder and far more complicated as life goes on.

ThePinkSuperhero · January 2014

cruelsound said:

@thepinksuperhero why did you flag OP? You are wasting the mods time.

kateitho · January 2014

Instead of expressing my feeling for @ladyabagail , I'm going to express my feelings for her SIL. She must be a very strong woman. I am so happy that she has graduated into motherhood through the arduous journey that IVF can be and is. My heart goes out to her today and everyday. I know through her struggles, she has learned patience, understanding, and commitment that will assist her in becoming the wonderful mother that she is destined to be!

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