I see we started out wrong due to my confession on the flame free board which should be titled feel free to flame but that's a whole other post. I did not post to offend anyone and my comments were about my sil not anyone here. I did not mean for it to be taken so personally. There a lots of topics that not everyone will agree on and apparently I posted a caused a big disaster. Being this is my birth month board too I will continue to post here until at least August. Those of you that would like to be adults and move on , thanks. The others that continue to bash me will just be blocked. I have no plans to leave this board so we can either just get along or pretend one another don't exist. That is all.♡♥♡♡♥♡♥♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Yeah sorry, you are not forgiven in my book. NOTHING you could ever say could take back the god awful things you said. I give you permission, go effing block me.
IVF #1: 4-11-11= Transferred 1 beautiful blastocyst I named "Nugget" 5 Snowbabies! Beta#1 4/21= BFP! 226; Beta#2 4/25= 944 DS born 12/14/11
Baby #2 FET Nov/Dec 2013
12/13 Beta#1=BFP 349; 12/16 Beta#2=1,089. First ultrasound 12/26. DS#2 born 8/8/14 ~~PAIF/SAIF Always Welcome~~
Look, you came here for support right? Why not make a new name?
This is my second baby, but with my first it was so nice to get feedback from everyone and insight too, well beyond giving birth. When you're sitting all alone freaking out, and you will get a moment like that...everyone does, you'll need some helpful women to bring you back and I know this site has done that for me.
A new name could give you that. But it's your decision. This post shows you're at least trying, so there's a start. But you truly did hurt many people and there isn't any returning from that, not even with a 'sort of' apology.
I see we started out wrong due to my confession on the flame free board which should be titled feel free to flame but that's a whole other post. I did not post to offend anyone and my comments were about my sil not anyone here. I did not mean for it to be taken so personally. There a lots of topics that not everyone will agree on and apparently I posted a caused a big disaster. Being this is my birth month board too I will continue to post here until at least August. Those of you that would like to be adults and move on , thanks. The others that continue to bash me will just be blocked. I have no plans to leave this board so we can either just get along or pretend one another don't exist. That is all.♡♥♡♡♥♡♥♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Nope - when you said you couldn't get excited for "an artificial pregnancy" and that a baby made through medical assistance wasn't a miracle, your comments applied to a lot of ladies on this board (myself included).
I'm not able to speak for the whole board, but I'm certainly not interested in your apology or your advice/feedback on this board - no matter how mature you claim to be.
@ladyabagail You know who you remind me of? That lady in "The Help" that eats the poop pie. You just keep thinking that your shallow narrow minded apologies that are not even close to sincere are going to be accepted. Everyone on here hates you. Don't you get that? What you said was so incredibly offensive to EVERYONE that you lost all chance of getting support from us during your pregnancy. It really sucks, because a new high school graduate of 18 with a husband who will probably struggle for the rest of his life trying to support the new family needs it more than about anyone. You burned this bridge. NOT US!!! Don't you get that? Once the bridge is burned, there is no going back. You are not welcome in the August 2013 board, and I'm quite sure the rest of the Bump does not care to hear your horrible thoughts anymore either. I would suggest googling another pregnancy support website. Make your life easier, and less stressful for the baby by bowing out and going somewhere else. We are just going to make the next 7 months miserable by fighting otherwise.
Oh, and if you are honestly sincere about this so called apology, how about you start with your SIL. She deserves it more than anyone.
edited - sorry if I make some assumptions. Not meaning to offend others if you do not hate her. Thats just the data I gathered from reading 18 pages on FFFC, Prenatals, SAHM, etc.
Abagail -- to get a new account, you'll have to set one up with a new email address. The email you used for this account is permanently tied and can not be changed.
So, get a new email and start over. Keep your terribly offensive opinions to yourself. Talk about generic things, like the weather or your symptoms.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but some opinions should never be spoken about, like your opinions on IVF. They are horribly hurtful and offensive and I'm still kinda surprised that you don't understand that.
I am not going to make lame joke at your expense. I am not going to sit here and bash you for your uneducated morals, beliefs or ideas. I am sure this is not the first or the last time you will put your foot in your mouth. I simply have a suggestion cut your losses and move on. You are here for support but you wont get it. So why bother continue to try to get in the good graces of the people you have seriously offended. It is a losing battle. There are plenty of other forums out there where you could go and if you keep your mouth shut get the support you are looking for. Oh and ps fffc is never flame free thats the point.
How do you feel about people you deal with on a daily basis? Do you ask them of they are "real" people or if they are "artificial"? Are you friends with anyone who was conceived through "science"? What you said was in the same lines as being racist. Do you understand that?
@ladyabagail you are so young that you don't realize that what you believe can't just be forgotten.
The child I am pregnant with now is due to fertility treatments. In one comment, you basically negated my (and other fellow mommas) months of tears and pain. Think about the most painful time in you life and then think of someone telling you that you were ridiculous and everything you felt was make believe and didn't deserve a positive outcome. I can guarantee you I have prayed and hoped for this child more than you have with your "natural" child. Would you say the things to your brother & SIL to her face that you said here? You really must not like your brother very much to discount the pain I'm sure infertility has put on him.
I have no problem with people getting married young but you truly need to grow up, pray to whoever you believe in to open your eyes to reality and get an education before you open your mouth here again. You have no friends here.
Our Miracles: BFP- May 14, 2015... diagnosed with SCH. Collapsed Sac- May 29, 2015. Determined to be failed twin tetraploidy pregnancy. "Never in my arms, Always in my heart"
I was hoping this was going to at least be a sincere apology post. But I agree with @cruelsound that it should be tagged #sorrynotsorry. At least I don't have to feel bad about not forgiving her?
Maybe you should try a new site... get support on the August board for What To Expect, or Baby Center.... I WOULD NOT reccommend Fertility Friend... Go somewhere where people don't realize what an ignorant twatwaffle you are if you want to start fresh. We don't want your self righteous brand of crazy here
@ladyabagail - your OP here does not even contain a valid apology. After you said something so hurtful to so many people, you cannot even be mature or empathetic enough to apologize for your offensive words. While yes, there were certainly many responses to your FFC that included name calling, etc... But there were also many people that shared their personal stories to help you understand the struggles of IVF moms. The fact that none of these touched you enough to prompt a sincere apology speaks to your character (or lack thereof). Furthermore your post has a bratty undertone where you infer that only some of us are capable of being adults. These 2 things combined reflect your lack of sensitivity and adolescent egocentric world view. You have a lot of growing up to do and not a lot of time to do it. For the sake of your child, broaden your horizons, accept the fact that other people may not share your viewpoints and that's OK, and understand that ignorance breeds ignorance and that's a gift no mother should give her child.
@ladyabagail FFS, would you just give up already. No one on this entire website missed the ignorance that you posted. There is no "starting over" from that shit. Move to Mexico. Or hey! Go hang out with the other dumb teen moms on the MTV boards. You might find a friend there.
P.S. you've got to first APOLOGIZE to even think you'll get forgiveness you cuntwaffle.
I see we started out wrong due to my confession on the flame free board which should be titled feel free to flame but that's a whole other post. I did not post to offend anyone and my comments were about my sil not anyone here. I did not mean for it to be taken so personally. There a lots of topics that not everyone will agree on and apparently I posted a caused a big disaster. Being this is my birth month board too I will continue to post here until at least August. Those of you that would like to be adults and move on , thanks. The others that continue to bash me will just be blocked. I have no plans to leave this board so we can either just get along or pretend one another don't exist. That is all.♡♥♡♡♥♡♥♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Lurking from May '14...
OP, you do realize that regardless of your intentions, your words were ridiculously hurtful. Therefore, YOU are responsible for the fallout. If you say something rude or offensive IRL or if you hurt someone, REGARDLESS OF IF YOU MEANT TO OR NOT, you are responsible for what occurs after. If I hit someone with my car but "I didn't mean to", is the blame off of me? NO! There are repercussions for your actions - deal with it.
It's not everyone else's fault for "taking it the wrong way", and it doesn't matter if it was meant for your SIL or not. Own up to it - what you said was shitty and you should apologize and MEAN IT, not say that your opinions were meant for someone else so there is no reason for other people to be mad.
@ScappyLika I was raised in a conservative household and actually thought some of the same things she does when I was her age. I no longer believe that you can thrive or raise a family on $20K a year, I no longer believe that abortion is fundamentally wrong, and I no longer view stem cell research as an "affront against the unborn." All I'm saying is that people can change a lot with time and education, and I'd hate for her to lose a growth opportunity she so obviously needs because she was clearly raised with some fucked up views on marriage and procreation.
Having fucked up views on marriage and procreation is one thing. Being a total asshole about it is another.
I have plenty of friends with views/values very different from mine -- we respect each other's views and agree to disagree and/or just don't talk about those issues. The OP is using ignorance (in the purest sense of the word) as an excuse to bash other people and be hateful.
Just curious does your husband know how you feel? Or your sil? If I was him I would be so disgusted with words you said about my sister.
Right?!
@ladyabagail you thought you were going to come here and air your dirty laundry that you're too scared to tell anyone in RL about because you know they'd cut a bitch. Sorrynotsorry that's not the case! We would love to hear about your nasty divorce though when you let this shit slip to your DH. Please come back and share all the dets!
Sorry, my 'science babies' and I are still thoroughly offended by what you said.
My DH and I struggled for four years to get pregnant. Through no fault of my own, I have a medical condition that made it nearly impossible for us to conceive by "making love." Instead, I went through three painful surgeries, three rounds of artificial insemination and four rounds of IVF. I, like the millions of other women in similar situations, found myself bruised, cut and both mentally and emotionally drained by the process. I would never wish that on anyone.
You may not agree, but conceiving a baby this way takes an incredible amount of love, moreso than I could ever express to my husband in bed one night. You want to know what love looked like in my situation? It was passing out and my husband catching me before I hit the kitchen floor just after he had to put a huge needle in my rear end to sustain the "science babies" we were so desperate for. Or maybe it was in the hospital after surgery when he was holding my hair back and wiping my tears as I had been vomiting for hours after the anesthesia. So excuse me if I'm not willing to just let your harsh, immature and hurtful words go.
You didn't just criticize your SIL, you attacked so many women who are already struggling by getting on your soapbox and claiming superiority. Sadly, you still don't even seem to realize that and can't even offer a sincere apology. No, you don't get a pass on this.
I see we started out wrong due to my confession on the flame free board which should be titled feel free to flame but that's a whole other post. I did not post to offend anyone and my comments were about my sil not anyone here. I did not mean for it to be taken so personally. There a lots of topics that not everyone will agree on and apparently I posted a caused a big disaster. Being this is my birth month board too I will continue to post here until at least August. Those of you that would like to be adults and move on , thanks. The others that continue to bash me will just be blocked. I have no plans to leave this board so we can either just get along or pretend one another don't exist. That is all.♡♥♡♡♥♡♥♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Why are people encouraging her to get a new user name? If I'm being honest, the only thing that's going to make me want to do is avoid interacting with ANY brand new users, because I would rather eat donkey shit than interact with her or like one of her posts, because I won't know who she is. I'm a fairly new user myself, and I know it sucks to say that, but seriously. When someone is so hateful, and so terribly closed minded, I think it's best for them to move on. She doesn't deserve a fresh start or a second chance in my opinion.
LadyA, I'll just say this. If you create a new user ID, any and all friendships and relationships you create here will not only be based in lies, they will be as "artificial" as you seem to think IVF pregnancies are. Go. Away.
Re: starting over
IVF #1: 4-11-11= Transferred 1 beautiful blastocyst I named "Nugget"
5 Snowbabies! Beta#1 4/21= BFP! 226; Beta#2 4/25= 944
DS born 12/14/11
Baby #2 FET Nov/Dec 2013
12/13 Beta#1=BFP 349; 12/16 Beta#2=1,089. First ultrasound 12/26. DS#2 born 8/8/14
~~PAIF/SAIF Always Welcome~~
This is my second baby, but with my first it was so nice to get feedback from everyone and insight too, well beyond giving birth. When you're sitting all alone freaking out, and you will get a moment like that...everyone does, you'll need some helpful women to bring you back and I know this site has done that for me.
A new name could give you that. But it's your decision. This post shows you're at least trying, so there's a start. But you truly did hurt many people and there isn't any returning from that, not even with a 'sort of' apology.
"Your truth is different from my truth, and we're both right."
TTC since March 2013. BFP 4/13/13, blighted ovum discovered 6/6/13, m/c 6/8/13.
BFP 11/10/13, EDD 7/25/13 - stick little owlet!
Gosh dangit...my head hurts all over again now.
BFP: 12/2/13, EDD: 8/17/13
Follow MacKenzie and Madison's Journey at randidooley.wordpress.com
So, get a new email and start over. Keep your terribly offensive opinions to yourself. Talk about generic things, like the weather or your symptoms.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but some opinions should never be spoken about, like your opinions on IVF. They are horribly hurtful and offensive and I'm still kinda surprised that you don't understand that.
The child I am pregnant with now is due to fertility treatments. In one comment, you basically negated my (and other fellow mommas) months of tears and pain. Think about the most painful time in you life and then think of someone telling you that you were ridiculous and everything you felt was make believe and didn't deserve a positive outcome. I can guarantee you I have prayed and hoped for this child more than you have with your "natural" child. Would you say the things to your brother & SIL to her face that you said here? You really must not like your brother very much to discount the pain I'm sure infertility has put on him.
I have no problem with people getting married young but you truly need to grow up, pray to whoever you believe in to open your eyes to reality and get an education before you open your mouth here again. You have no friends here.
Our Miracles: BFP- May 14, 2015... diagnosed with SCH. Collapsed Sac- May 29, 2015. Determined to be failed twin tetraploidy pregnancy.
"Never in my arms, Always in my heart"
What is said is incredibly offensive and you will not be forgiven...
P.S. you've got to first APOLOGIZE to even think you'll get forgiveness you cuntwaffle.
OP, you do realize that regardless of your intentions, your words were ridiculously hurtful. Therefore, YOU are responsible for the fallout. If you say something rude or offensive IRL or if you hurt someone, REGARDLESS OF IF YOU MEANT TO OR NOT, you are responsible for what occurs after. If I hit someone with my car but "I didn't mean to", is the blame off of me? NO! There are repercussions for your actions - deal with it.
It's not everyone else's fault for "taking it the wrong way", and it doesn't matter if it was meant for your SIL or not. Own up to it - what you said was shitty and you should apologize and MEAN IT, not say that your opinions were meant for someone else so there is no reason for other people to be mad.
Happy Endings
I can't even. Seriously? Seriously.
OP:
Having fucked up views on marriage and procreation is one thing. Being a total asshole about it is another.
I have plenty of friends with views/values very different from mine -- we respect each other's views and agree to disagree and/or just don't talk about those issues. The OP is using ignorance (in the purest sense of the word) as an excuse to bash other people and be hateful.
That's not OK.
Right?!
@ladyabagail you thought you were going to come here and air your dirty laundry that you're too scared to tell anyone in RL about because you know they'd cut a bitch. Sorrynotsorry that's not the case! We would love to hear about your nasty divorce though when you let this shit slip to your DH. Please come back and share all the dets!
Chiming in from the June 2014 board....
Sorry, my 'science babies' and I are still thoroughly offended by what you said.
My DH and I struggled for four years to get pregnant. Through no fault of my own, I have a medical condition that made it nearly impossible for us to conceive by "making love." Instead, I went through three painful surgeries, three rounds of artificial insemination and four rounds of IVF. I, like the millions of other women in similar situations, found myself bruised, cut and both mentally and emotionally drained by the process. I would never wish that on anyone.
You may not agree, but conceiving a baby this way takes an incredible amount of love, moreso than I could ever express to my husband in bed one night. You want to know what love looked like in my situation? It was passing out and my husband catching me before I hit the kitchen floor just after he had to put a huge needle in my rear end to sustain the "science babies" we were so desperate for. Or maybe it was in the hospital after surgery when he was holding my hair back and wiping my tears as I had been vomiting for hours after the anesthesia. So excuse me if I'm not willing to just let your harsh, immature and hurtful words go.
You didn't just criticize your SIL, you attacked so many women who are already struggling by getting on your soapbox and claiming superiority. Sadly, you still don't even seem to realize that and can't even offer a sincere apology. No, you don't get a pass on this.
LadyA, I'll just say this. If you create a new user ID, any and all friendships and relationships you create here will not only be based in lies, they will be as "artificial" as you seem to think IVF pregnancies are. Go. Away.