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On gender ,sex, and pulling one's head out of their...

GoodluckyogiGoodluckyogi member
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Can anyone explain why some people on these message boards get so snarky when someone talks about wanting to know their baby's "gender" versus saying they want to know the "sex" of their child? Yes, I know the two are different but it's SOOO pretentious,rude, and frankly, embarassing the way some people feel the need to point it out.

I just read a post where some asked if other women were going to find out the "gender" and four people wrote something to the effect of " ugh, I hate it when people say gender and not sex". I can't help but wonder why they bothered to read the post when it clearly (GASP) used the word "gender" in the post's title.

I think some of them must have just learned the difference and now they have to act like the word police. It's sickening and rude to steal someone's thunder with such pettiness.

To me it's the equivalent asking someone how they are doing and they answer, " I'm good. How are you?" and then replying with " I'm WELL" and exaggerating " well".

Yes, there is a grammatically correct answer and yes, it is correct to say "sex" not "gender" but we all know what the person means.

Can we agree to stop being smug, judgmental mommies and start being a little kinder? I get so disappointed reading some people's negative replies to someone's happy/excited post. Lighten up ladies! You know who you are! :-)
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  • GoodluckyogiGoodluckyogi member
    I wouldn't exactly call saying " I hate when people say gender" educating anyone. Yes, I know someone who is transgendered. Do I get more street cred now?
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  • GoodluckyogiGoodluckyogi member
    I am all for someone politely educating someone else on the difference between the two but that is not what usually happens. Just like I'm perceived as being on a soapbox because I am pushing for less snark and nastiness. My fault, I will get off of my high horse now. Thank you ladies for the enlightening GIFs, redundant diatribes, and for illustrating my point. Lol! Insert clapping GIF here.
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  • PrimRoseMamaPrimRoseMama member
    joules235 said:


    Goodluckyogi said:

    I wouldn't exactly call saying " I hate when people say gender" educating anyone. Yes, I know someone who is transgendered. Do I get more street cred now?

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  • abundancenowabundancenow member
    I had to re educate myself by googling this, because I was taught in school that gender was male or female and sex was the act of sex. I found info at the World Health Org site and felt ignorant for having it mixed up.
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  • kennazebrowskykennazebrowsky member
    Grow a pair and get over it. What's the point of this post?
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  • abundancenowabundancenow member
    edited January 2014
    meladoriestar said:
    I had to re educate myself by googling this, because I was taught in school that gender was male or female and sex was the act of sex. I found info at the World Health Org site and felt ignorant for having it mixed up.
    @abundancenow unfortunately a lot of what has been taught in the past hasn't always been right (e.g., homosexuality was considered a mental illness in the DSM until the 80s). I do want to thank you for taking the time to research this and learn the difference. What's important is that you are willing to educate yourself and I am truly grateful for it.

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  • abundancenowabundancenow member
    I'm new with this on a tablet and keep messing up... Sorry about the double posts. I want to say that I am almost certain I was taught this in the early 90s in college sociology. I an embarrassed to just learn the correct definitions now. I know the DSM has a history of over pathologizing, but I am surprised that my supposedly liberal college education messed this one up so bad. Damn public school education, (kidding but not really). Propaganda for the masses, if they don't like it, they lie about it!
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  • NenetoutiNenetouti member
    Mollygirl1 said:

    I agree OP. And the world might hate me for saying it but God picks the gender! So saying that you want to know the gender of your baby at 20 weeks is not incorrect, regardlessof the fact that some people want to alter their genitals later in life and refer to themselves as a ddifferent gender, your DNA and body's makeup will always be the same "gender" you were at birth. Period. Nothing against transgenders but people need to stop correcting excited pregnant women when they talk about their gender reveal parties or finding out the gender of their babies. Because as much as some of u don'twant to hear it, their true gender WILL be revealed at that time. (Somebody needed to say it.)

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    WhoCanItBeNow said:


    Nenetouti said:

    Mollygirl1 said:

    I agree OP. And the world might hate me for saying it but God picks the gender! So saying that you want to know the gender of your baby at 20 weeks is not incorrect, regardlessof the fact that some people want to alter their genitals later in life and refer to themselves as a ddifferent gender, your DNA and body's makeup will always be the same "gender" you were at birth. Period. Nothing against transgenders but people need to stop correcting excited pregnant women when they talk about their gender reveal parties or finding out the gender of their babies. Because as much as some of u don'twant to hear it, their true gender WILL be revealed at that time. (Somebody needed to say it.)

    Thank you

    You can drag your disgusting self off this site as well.


    Thanks for calling me disgusting and sorry, I'm not going anywhere. What are you going to do about that? Call me another name? Get a life!

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    @meladoriestar And what exactly makes you think that me saying "thank you" means that I'm ignorant. I do know what the technical word to use is. But I also happen to agree with what @mollygirl1 said about god picking your gender. If He gives you female genitals then your gender is supposed to be a girl and same for boys. Other people may not agree with that and I don't care because I'm NOT trying to change anyone's opinion on anything. But if I see something that I agree on, I have the right to say so and there is nothing anyone can do about it. I don't think having the same opinion as everyone else was a prerequisite to join the bump. I really don't see what the big deal is for some people to get soooooo upset because some strangers are using the "wrong" word on the internet and that might offend some people. Seriously??? Don't you guys have morning sickness or other pregnancy symptoms to worry about??
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    LuckyNumbers said:

    Nenetouti said:
    @meladoriestar And what exactly makes you think that me saying "thank you" means that I'm ignorant. I do know what the technical word to use is. But I also happen to agree with what @mollygirl1 said about god picking your gender. If He gives you female genitals then your gender is supposed to be a girl and same for boys. Other people may not agree with that and I don't care because I'm NOT trying to change anyone's opinion on anything. But if I see something that I agree on, I have the right to say so and there is nothing anyone can do about it. I don't think having the same opinion as everyone else was a prerequisite to join the bump. I really don't see what the big deal is for some people to get soooooo upset because some strangers are using the "wrong" word on the internet and that might offend some people. Seriously??? Don't you guys have morning sickness or other pregnancy symptoms to worry about??
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    Gender is a social construct, not a pre-ordained determination made by God. Sex is determined by genitalia. So start using the right fucking words.
    That's your opinion and I respect it. No need to use the f word honey. You don't need that to get your point across. Be a lady now. 
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    WhoCanItBeNow said:
    Nenetouti said:
    LuckyNumbers said:

    Nenetouti said:
    @meladoriestar And what exactly makes you think that me saying "thank you" means that I'm ignorant. I do know what the technical word to use is. But I also happen to agree with what @mollygirl1 said about god picking your gender. If He gives you female genitals then your gender is supposed to be a girl and same for boys. Other people may not agree with that and I don't care because I'm NOT trying to change anyone's opinion on anything. But if I see something that I agree on, I have the right to say so and there is nothing anyone can do about it. I don't think having the same opinion as everyone else was a prerequisite to join the bump. I really don't see what the big deal is for some people to get soooooo upset because some strangers are using the "wrong" word on the internet and that might offend some people. Seriously??? Don't you guys have morning sickness or other pregnancy symptoms to worry about??
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    Gender is a social construct, not a pre-ordained determination made by God. Sex is determined by genitalia. So start using the right fucking words.
    That's your opinion and I respect it. No need to use the f word honey. You don't need that to get your point across. Be a lady now. 
    You are literally too stupid to insult.

    Awwwww thanks honey. You are just too smart for me. I'm going to sleep now. Sweet dreams ladies. I hope by the time you wake up tomorrow you will learn to respect other people opinions and not freak out because they are not agreeing with you. Bye girl!
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    WhoCanItBeNow said:

    Your gender is not determined by your sex organs. There are far more than 2 genders.


    So, i didnt know this. I did go to try and educate myself and found this website.

    https://www.genderspectrum.org/understanding-gender

    Im not going to get into the religion side of this debate. But i do think its important to use correct terminology.
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    msspeedymarie said:


    WhoCanItBeNow said:


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    WashingtonQueen said:

    Just so we are clear, would shit a brick if I had pregnancy symptoms right now!

    Amen to that sista!

    Add me to this list. 

    We'd be having a genuine miracle over here.


    Same here. Theres been no dtd since ds was born end of july.
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  • rainydayluckrainydayluck member
    Soooo, what is sperm good for (other than some measly DNA), if god decides the sex? Does he go into the vagina and finger flick all the male/female (depending on what he's picking) sperm to get the winner he wants? What if he does all that work and the mom prays for a baby of a particular sex? How does he fix it then (since obviously he made a mistake is the baby is the opposite of what mom wanted)?

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    Nenetouti said:

    Awwwww thanks honey. You are just too smart for me. I'm going to sleep now. Sweet dreams ladies. I hope by the time you wake up tomorrow you will learn to respect other people opinions and not freak out because they are not agreeing with you. Bye girl!




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    WhoCanItBeNow said:
    It's amazing that someone would think worrying about morning sickness should be far more important to a pregnant woman than the oppression of a large group of people. 

    Then again, she'd probably beat my husband and I for not following "traditional" gender roles in our relationship. 


    She'd probably also disown her gay or transgendered child if he or she ever came out to her. 
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    Can I just randomly say OP's post at the end saying "you know who are" reminds me of my old school days.  

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