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JSS1002 · November 2013

knitfaced said:

I do not understand why anyone on the planet would look at a mini-van and say "that is one good looking vehicle". SUV's are just as practical and definitely better on the eyes.
You obviously do not have multiple children.

I don't think anybody is arguing about their utility, just that they aren't cute!

ceamac0127 · November 2013

clgsquared said:

JSS1002 said:

knitfaced said:

I do not understand why anyone on the planet would look at a mini-van and say "that is one good looking vehicle". SUV's are just as practical and definitely better on the eyes.
You obviously do not have multiple children.

I don't think anybody is arguing about their utility, just that they aren't cute!

And I could have an army of kids and not want a mini-van. Ever. Superficial? Perhaps.

This is me. I don't ever even want to test drive one ebacsue I'm afraid I might like it. I just can't do a mini van and it is absolutely NO offense to anyone who drives one. It is me being a stuck up snot. At least I own it, right?

pinottoparenthood · November 2013

JBDamonM said:

BellaBean76 said:

I hate the term DH on the bump. I don't think MH has ever been "darling". Thoughtful...yes, amazing...yes...but darling? I just can't. I can understand it in reference to our babies...but our husbands, cringe worthy.
I have always thought it was dear. Not that that makes it much better. I don't really ever think of it as something I'd actually say - just as an acronym to make explaining things easier!

This. Dear husband/dear son. It's just an expression/it's quicker than saying "my husband" every single time.

Starburst ranked from most delicious to least delicious:

1. Red

2. Yellow

3. Pink

4. Getting hit by a car

5. Orange

(If you have seen the ranked lists on foodspin, you understand.)

@rgrundon - I LOVE Top Chef! It's on the DVR, can't wait to watch it with my dear, dear husband.

@chicagobroad26 Sorry, I just think that Elf is terrifying!

JBDamonM · November 2013

pinottoparenthood said:

JBDamonM said:

BellaBean76 said:

I hate the term DH on the bump. I don't think MH has ever been "darling". Thoughtful...yes, amazing...yes...but darling? I just can't. I can understand it in reference to our babies...but our husbands, cringe worthy.
I have always thought it was dear. Not that that makes it much better. I don't really ever think of it as something I'd actually say - just as an acronym to make explaining things easier!
This. Dear husband/dear son. It's just an expression/it's quicker than saying "my husband" every single time.

Starburst ranked from most delicious to least delicious:

1. Red

2. Yellow

3. Pink

4. Getting hit by a car

5. Orange

(If you have seen the ranked lists on foodspin, you understand.)

@rgrundon - I LOVE Top Chef! It's on the DVR, can't wait to watch it with my dear, dear husband.

@chicagobroad26 Sorry, I just think that Elf is terrifying!

WHAT!!?!?! RED NUMBER 1?!?!? Come on now

pinottoparenthood · November 2013

skidderdo said:

I don't plan to pay for my children's college. I think the idea is pretty crazy and contributes a lot to the entitlement mindset of this generation. ns). They have to learn to make choices that will effect their entire lives - that's a skill that can't be given.
Ooo good one this is controversial-tastic! While I agree that college is not for everyone, and vocational/skills training is sometimes a better option, I cannot fathom paying $40,000+ per year at the age of 18 for my college education. I worked all during high school and college, but did I come close to being able to pay tuition? Ha! Not a prayer! And my most important "job" at that point was obtaining the education necessary so I could be independent later on in life. If you have a child who wants a college education, and you have the means to help pay for it, I think this opinion is unreasonable... and absurd.

Yeah, I agree. My husband's parents paid for his college, but they also live on a farm and he was expected to help on the farm basically his whole life and whenever he was at home. In high school, he was an honors student, an athlete, involved in multiple clubs, etc. He didn't have time to have a job. He is an incredibly hard worker, very successful, and debt-free (well, aside from our mortgage now).

On the flip side, my parents did not have very much money saved up for my college. It's not their fault; they did the best they could, and I don't fault them for it, but I graduated with $50k in debt. And I went to a public, state university. My student loan payments are practically a second mortgage. My husband took on that debt when we got married. That debt is a large part of the reason that I have to continue working full-time while being a mom, instead of being able to stay at home or work part-time. I so wish that I didn't have this burden hanging over my head, particularly since I chose to be a teacher so my career isn't very lucrative.

I understand wanting your children to be accountable. By all means, don't buy them whatever they want. Make them work and save up to buy video games, or clothes, or whatever their thing is. Make them save up and help make car payments, or pay cell phone bills. Teach them accountability. But refusing to pay for their college if you are financially able to help is kind of awful, IMHO. we have already started a college savings plan for Rhys, and I don't know if we will be able to pay for all of his college, but I hope that we're able to at least make a big dent in the amount of loan money he has to borrow.

JSS1002 · November 2013

CoffeeMonster19 said:

JSS1002 said:

MKC12/22/2006 said:

MKC12/22/2006 said:

I don't understand when people who work retail get upset when they have to work super early on black Friday...as if it's a surprise that it's a big shopping day. Don't like it? Don't work at a store that is notoriously black Friday savvy. Dont work for Target or Kohls then get all up in arms about needing to work at midnight, like it's something new.
I get what you're saying, but I live in a small town and lots of jobs are retail. Lots of people, my mom included, work retail since that's what they are qualified to do. I wish my mom didn't have to work on holidays or at 3 am the next day for greedy people to shop.
I don't think the consumer is necessarily greedy. Actually most of the time they are just trying to get a good deal. If anything the "greedy" party here is the retailer who opens at 2 am on Black Friday,drops prices , makes all employees work etc. Black Friday is driven by the retailers not the consumer IMO. They want more which is why they will open even earlier this year. Sorry that your mom has to work BTW. I also worked in retail before and it is not fun at all. I do not miss those days.
True; I probably shouldn't use the word greedy. I do think if we all waited to shop then the stores wouldn't be open at crazy times!

Okay well now I have to open my mouth. :-) Yes, of course the retailer is greedy. By definition their entire purpose is to sell shit and make money.

That said, the only reason Wal Mart started opening earlier is because somebody was LITERALLY trampled to death one year on BF, crowding into the store... due to their lack of crowd control + general population crazies... so the next year they opened at night... and Everybody who DIDN'T open at night caught heat from both shoppers and employees who wanted the hours...

So, once again, WM proves to be the devil. ;-)

Ok so how does Walmart opening earlier avoid people getting trampled? Don't they just trample each other at 5 pm instead of midnight? I think bf can be fun too, last year my sister and I went out to a couple stores around 10 and it was fun. I just don't get the point of every year stores trying to beat each other by opening earlier and earlier. It's not Black Friday if the deals are on Thursday afternoon, kwim?

The first year, Wal Mart just never closed...24 hours... people trickle in, no trampling..

KrisM86 · November 2013

My apparently unpopular opinion is that I think it's ridiculous not to get a minivan solely because of how it looks. I mean, do SUVs look that amazing or something? I certainly don't think so. You're obviously not going to be able to lug your kids and all their crap around in a Ferrari; is your SUV so much cooler than a minivan? Really?

And to those who say SUVs are just as practical for multiple kids as minivans, that's just not true. If you've ever had someone park way too close to your car and then had to squeeze your infant carseat in or climb in through the other side, you know this isn't true. Sliding doors are awesome. Also, it's much easier for young kids to climb into a minivan than most SUVs.

All this from a Subaru Forrester, minivan envious mom.

La Olivia · November 2013

JordynLeighx3 said:

Here's mine: I would not be worried or upset in the least bit if one of my girls told me she was gay.

I am absolutely with you. To me sexual orientation is one of the million things about L that I can't wait for him to discover as he gets older. It wouldn't bother me any more than if he were left handed, a Republican or extroverted.

My UO: I wouldn't be bothered if he grew up to be transgendered. I would have anxiety about the societal pressures he would likely face and that he would probably have to deal with other people's nastiness. But would I be disappointed or upset if he were trans or gender non-conforming? Not a bit.

La Olivia · November 2013

skidderdo said:

My unpopular opinion is that the following items should be outlawed completely: handguns/assault rifles... cigarettes... McDonald's fast food.

Seriously? No assault rifles or handguns for anybody? Military and police? That would make it hard for our nation to defend itself. And that is some scary shit if the police and military can have weapons but the general population can't.

JSS1002 · November 2013

LibbyLouHoo said:

clgsquared said:

And I could have an army of kids and not want a mini-van. Ever. Superficial? Perhaps.
This was me until I had multiple children. Even then, I didn't want to give up my suv. My DH wanted me to get a minivan and I fought it all the way. But now that I have one, I don't think I could ever go back. In fact, I think driving a minivan makes me more of a nonconformist than all the suv drivers out there. Looking around, there are way less minivans than suvs on the road these days.

I've never actually driven a mini-van, though I've ridden IN them -- are they high up like SUVs? Because my only hestitation is that I hate being on the road and not being able to see over people! But I'll probably end up trading in the pilot for a minivan after we have another kid -- as long as the car is well kept and maintained, I am okay with driving a minivan if it makes life easier (though I'll drive my pilot into the ground as long as possible because I LOVE it)

lilbit0910 · November 2013

skidderdo said:

My unpopular opinion is that the following items should be outlawed completely: handguns/assault rifles... cigarettes... McDonald's fast food.

MCDONALDS?????

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Best hangover food ever

Kate_C · November 2013

@jss1002 - speaking of Target, I am sad this is the last year for Holidazzle. I don't know if it is actually unpopular, but I don't think they should end the parade!

JSS1002 · November 2013

Kate_C said:

@jss1002 - speaking of Target, I am sad this is the last year for Holidazzle. I don't know if it is actually unpopular, but I don't think they should end the parade!

I'm actually kind of surprised it is ending -- I haven't been in years, but it always seems to draw a big crowd. My guess is that they'll come up wiht something to replace it, but I can't imagine what! Downtown is always a MESS every single night of the parade, so clearly people are attending!

ClandestineX · November 2013

skidderdo said:

My unpopular opinion is that the following items should be outlawed completely: handguns/assault rifles... cigarettes... McDonald's fast food.

I can agree with the cigarettes and I really wish fast food restaurants would just disappear, but as for the handguns and semi-automatic rifles... no, they need to stay. I refuse to give up my weapons because someone else is uneasy with them. The only people who will benefit outlawed guns are criminals and I am not going to be caught with my pants down having no protection just in case some thug wants a quick dollar. If you come on my property with intent of being a criminal you will be shot, if I see a gun on your persons you will be shot fatally.

My UO is that I hate it when protesters have no clue what they are protesting about. Are they out there marching and 'trying', (keyword: trying) to gain awareness? Maybe, but if you are all protesting for something different it looks uncoordinated and stupid and it hurts whatever agenda you are trying to push. Case in point 'Million Mask March'... It sounds kinda stupid when someone is yelling about Obama being a monkey while someone next to you is shouting "justice for Trayvon" and the person next to him is yelling "We need communism." Just go back home and rethink what the hell you are doing. People wonder why a revolution has not happened yet, it is because nobody can come together for a sole purpose and push just that.

Another one of my UO is that while some blogs are nice reads, I do not get the need to constantly being reminded to parent how I like and how much of a good mother I am or how this or that is good even though people disagree or on the opposite opinion of that idea. Just have confidence that you will do good, you are all good mothers.

melissad23 · November 2013

I have another - flame away.

Mostly the planner in me, but I think being "Team Green" is stupid, especially in certain cases.

Exhibit A) our best friends who ALWAYS complain their DS has no clothes.
Exhibit

my cousin is due the middle of April with her first. She is a teacher and her husband isn't working right now. They are already completely strapped financially, yet they aren't finding out. I just think it's crazy, and on their part - a little irresponsible.

eta - spelling

ClandestineX · November 2013

melissad23 said:

I have another - flame away.

Mostly the planner in me, but I think being "Team Green" is stupid, especially in certain cases.

Exhibit A) our best friends who ALWAYS complain their DS has no clothes.
Exhibit my cousin is due the middle of April with her first. She is a teacher and her husband isn't working right now. They are already completely strapped financially, yet they aren't finding out. I just think it's crazy, and on their part - a little irresponsible.

eta - spelling

What does knowing the sex have to do with money though? As far as I am aware buying gender neutral stuff is not more expensive than buying boy/girl things.

MKC12/22/2006 · November 2013

I will throw my two cents in about college funds for LO. My dad paid for all of my undergraduate degree - I know I am super lucky. He paid for my rent and food during that time, too. I took college seriously and really appreciated his contribution. My brother, on the other hand, took advantage of it and dropped out of college twice, never finished, and sat around on his butt in California until my dad finally quit giving him money. Everyone is different!

DH had his first two years of college paid for (community college), but he paid for the next three, which meant I helped him pay off that debt. It was really frustrating to have to pay it all off, but we did. We paid for my master's as I went, too.

We are definitely going to have a college fund set up for LO, and I will help him find as many scholarships as possible. I'm kind of amazed how many of my high school seniors don't have any money for college, and they are all stressed about it.

melissad23 · November 2013

ClandestineX said:

melissad23 said:

I have another - flame away.

Mostly the planner in me, but I think being "Team Green" is stupid, especially in certain cases.

Exhibit A) our best friends who ALWAYS complain their DS has no clothes.
Exhibit my cousin is due the middle of April with her first. She is a teacher and her husband isn't working right now. They are already completely strapped financially, yet they aren't finding out. I just think it's crazy, and on their part - a little irresponsible.

eta - spelling

What does knowing the sex have to do with money though? As far as I am aware buying gender neutral stuff is not more expensive than buying boy/girl things.

I guess I just know a lot of people who don't like buying gender neutral. (Obviously myself included) Or, don't like dressing their son or daughter in all green or yellow. So if you can take advantage of showers and everything before the baby is born and save yourself some $ and stress, why the heck wouldn't you?

ClandestineX · November 2013

melissad23 said:

melissad23 said:

I have another - flame away.

Mostly the planner in me, but I think being "Team Green" is stupid, especially in certain cases.

Exhibit A) our best friends who ALWAYS complain their DS has no clothes.
Exhibit my cousin is due the middle of April with her first. She is a teacher and her husband isn't working right now. They are already completely strapped financially, yet they aren't finding out. I just think it's crazy, and on their part - a little irresponsible.

eta - spelling

What does knowing the sex have to do with money though? As far as I am aware buying gender neutral stuff is not more expensive than buying boy/girl things.
I guess I just know a lot of people who don't like buying gender neutral. (Obviously myself included) Or, don't like dressing their son or daughter in all green or yellow. So if you can take advantage of showers and everything before the baby is born and save yourself some $ and stress, why the heck wouldn't you?

Well I guess it is just a projection of your thoughts about clothing color. I am not the type to complain about color, my grandmother bought some pink things before we knew the sex, he wore the crap out of those pink outfits, all I had to say was they were 'salmon' instead, lol. I also think a lot of toys or items are gender neutral as well, but again, if you do not like green or yellow (or have a specific color coordinated room) I suppose it isn't for you. But if I had received a piece of furniture that looks girlish I would still use it and probably not think twice about the color.

kelsea1031 · November 2013

melissad23 said:

melissad23 said:

I have another - flame away.

Mostly the planner in me, but I think being "Team Green" is stupid, especially in certain cases.

Exhibit A) our best friends who ALWAYS complain their DS has no clothes.
Exhibit my cousin is due the middle of April with her first. She is a teacher and her husband isn't working right now. They are already completely strapped financially, yet they aren't finding out. I just think it's crazy, and on their part - a little irresponsible.

eta - spelling

What does knowing the sex have to do with money though? As far as I am aware buying gender neutral stuff is not more expensive than buying boy/girl things.
I guess I just know a lot of people who don't like buying gender neutral. (Obviously myself included) Or, don't like dressing their son or daughter in all green or yellow. So if you can take advantage of showers and everything before the baby is born and save yourself some $ and stress, why the heck wouldn't you?

This makes absolutely no sense though. If you're that financially strapped, I'd think gender neutral items would be just fine. Heck, neutral items are probably a smarter financial move (can be used for multiple children of different sexes, could resell to parents of either sex, etc.).

suedell · November 2013

I loved not knowing he gender of both my kids. It was the most amazing experience when they were born and I wouldn't trade it for anything. We had so much neutral stuff with ds1 that we didn't need a darn thing when ds2 was born. Plus, at my shower I got the stuff I really needed instead of a bunch of clothes that people usually get when they know the gender because they think it's cute.

My UO is that I don't get cross fit. I don't know if its nationwide, but here in NY it's pretty popular and I feel like it's very extreme for no reason. My sister and brother in law are almost obsessed and I think it seems unhealthy.

ClandestineX · November 2013

suedell said:

I loved not knowing he gender of both my kids. It was the most amazing experience when they were born and I wouldn't trade it for anything. We had so much neutral stuff with ds1 that we didn't need a darn thing when ds2 was born. Plus, at my shower I got the stuff I really needed instead of a bunch of clothes that people usually get when they know the gender because they think it's cute. My UO is that I don't get cross fit. I don't know if its nationwide, but here in NY it's pretty popular and I feel like it's very extreme for no reason. My sister and brother in law are almost obsessed and I think it seems unhealthy.

I used to follow the path of bodybuilding. Though not the gross type, the type of women who is sleek and a bit of muscles. Anyways, crossfit is good on paper for losing weight and building strength.. but their poses are so bad and you really cannot get strong AND fast like that.. I am always worried someone is going to blow something out in their training. Also, the pull ups they do are not pull ups.. you need to extend your arms and pull up with your lats.. not using your body's motion to help you up. Same goes for their clean and jerks. OMG I want to scream watching them. Slow steady movement and anti-movement will build great muscles and burn more fat.

TuckleUp · November 2013

KrisM86 said:

My apparently unpopular opinion is that I think it's ridiculous not to get a minivan solely because of how it looks. I mean, do SUVs look that amazing or something? I certainly don't think so. You're obviously not going to be able to lug your kids and all their crap around in a Ferrari; is your SUV so much cooler than a minivan? Really?

And to those who say SUVs are just as practical for multiple kids as minivans, that's just not true. If you've ever had someone park way too close to your car and then had to squeeze your infant carseat in or climb in through the other side, you know this isn't true. Sliding doors are awesome. Also, it's much easier for young kids to climb into a minivan than most SUVs.

All this from a Subaru Forrester, minivan envious mom.

I have a Forester, and I don't love it. I'd trade it for a minivan in a hot second.

melissad23 · November 2013

melandjames14 said:

kelsea1031 said:

This makes absolutely no sense though. If you're that financially strapped, I'd think gender neutral items would be just fine. Heck, neutral items are probably a smarter financial move (can be used for multiple children of different sexes, could resell to parents of either sex, etc.).

I agree with this. We were team green and can reuse 100% of what was purchased for DS. I like PP said, when you know the gender all anyone buys is clothes. No one really had a choice but big ticket items for us

big items - I actually registered gender neutral myself.

Hey, I never said it was a popular opinion.

Kate_C · November 2013

Anyone see Parenthood last week when Crosby complained that driving a minivan was equivalent to driving around in a giant vagina?

It is definitely a practical family car. I still chose an SUV for myself though. I'm an impractical snob sometimes, I'll admit.

tondraluv · November 2013

The whole BF thing hits close to home just like @jss1002. Yes employees decide to work at these places knowing they'll have to work very early on Friday but this whole being open on thanksgiving day is new. This is where the complaint is.

arschm02 · November 2013

I had no idea DH meant darling husband. Ha, darling is definitely not a word I would use to describe him, but the term DH is quite easy to type on my ipad. UO: red starburst are the best followed by orange, yellow then pink. I WANT a mini van and have since BEFORE I had a child. A piece of me almost hopes for my son to be gay. A lot of girls drive me crazy and I would hate if he dated one of them.... Let's be honest, it's probably inevitable. If he dated boys I wouldn't have to worry about him getting some girl pregnant when he's 16 and I would continue to be his favorite girl... Until he has a daughter with his husband

skidderdo · November 2013

ClandestineX said:

skidderdo said:

I I refuse to give up my weapons because someone else is uneasy with them. The only people who will benefit outlawed guns are criminals and I am not going to be caught with my pants down having no protection just in case some thug wants a quick dollar. If you come on my property with intent of being a criminal you will be shot, if I see a gun on your persons you will be shot fatally.

Love you girl... but yikes. Just yikes.

KrisM86 · November 2013

tondraluv said:
The whole BF thing hits close to home just like @jss1002. Yes employees decide to work at these places knowing they'll have to work very early on Friday but this whole being open on thanksgiving day is new. This is where the complaint is.

Agreed!

ClandestineX · November 2013

skidderdo said:

skidderdo said:

I I refuse to give up my weapons because someone else is uneasy with them. The only people who will benefit outlawed guns are criminals and I am not going to be caught with my pants down having no protection just in case some thug wants a quick dollar. If you come on my property with intent of being a criminal you will be shot, if I see a gun on your persons you will be shot fatally.
Love you girl... but yikes. Just yikes.

I don't play around with stuff like that. I've been robbed before, the apartment of my aunt's has been shot up before. I have had close calls walking down the street before. Gun control doesn't help, look at Chicago with the strictest gun laws in the US. It doesn't help their gun violence in the least. Law abiding citizens are not the ones committing the crimes.

bibliophileemily · November 2013

I disapprove of couples living together before they get married. I don't say anything to people who do so, and I'd never end a friendship with someone because of that, but I can't believe how common and socially acceptable it's become now.

KrisM86 · November 2013

bibliophileemily said:
I disapprove of couples living together before they get married. I don't say anything to people who do so, and I'd never end a friendship with someone because of that, but I can't believe how common and socially acceptable it's become now.

I think it's crazy to marry someone you haven't lived with. I don't recommend moving in with just anyone, but if you think marriage/kids/forever, I absolutely think you should live together first.

tondraluv · November 2013

KrisM86 said:

I disapprove of couples living together before they get married. I don't say anything to people who do so, and I'd never end a friendship with someone because of that, but I can't believe how common and socially acceptable it's become now.
I think it's crazy to marry someone you haven't lived with. I don't recommend moving in with just anyone, but if you think marriage/kids/forever, I absolutely think you should live together first.

Absolutely agree with this. To me, you don't really know a person's quirks, cleaning habits, finances, & thing of that nature until you live with them.

JSS1002 · November 2013

briannah1010 said:

KrisM86 said:

I disapprove of couples living together before they get married. I don't say anything to people who do so, and I'd never end a friendship with someone because of that, but I can't believe how common and socially acceptable it's become now.
I think it's crazy to marry someone you haven't lived with. I don't recommend moving in with just anyone, but if you think marriage/kids/forever, I absolutely think you should live together first.

Definitely agree with living together before marriage. I lived with my husband since dating for only 8 months. I don't necessarily agree with moving in that soon, but at the time I was 20 and irritated with stupid rules my parents had at the time. But I definitely think living together is important now a days. You learn A LOT about the other person, and I think that I would rather move in, realize it is just might not work and break up versus going thru a divorce since you got married first. Times definitely have changed, but I know when my kids are at that point in their lives, I will not disagree with them moving in with a serious partner prior to marriage.

I don't "disagree" with living together before marriage, but I absolutely did not want to do that with my now-husband. I was a homeowner, so was he, I was absolutely not interested in making big changes like selling or renting out my house or sharing my space and life and family and decisions with somebody else, ever again, unless I knew we were going to get married.

We spent every weekend together while dating, and sometimes weeknights, and then shacked up more often than not once we were engaged, but we had a fairly old-fashioned courtship (unusual because we were older), and moved in together after we got married, and I absolutely loved that it was something NEW -- like, we got to start a whole fun different life together after marriage. By that point we'd been together for 2.5 years so there weren't a lot of surprises.

It isn't for everybody, but I love how we did it.:-)

tondraluv · November 2013

My UO is I know people think they are ugly but I absolutely love wedge sneakers. I have a hard time not dressing up & these make me feel comfortable & fashionable at the same time.

JordynLeighx3 · November 2013

tondraluv said:
My UO is I know people think they are ugly but I absolutely love wedge sneakers. I have a hard time not dressing up & these make me feel comfortable & fashionable at the same time.

Disagree! They are super cute, done right and on the right person! Which I totally think you could pull off!

ClandestineX · November 2013

tondraluv said:

My UO is I know people think they are ugly but I absolutely love wedge sneakers. I have a hard time not dressing up & these make me feel comfortable & fashionable at the same time.

I love them!

But I am also the type that loves shoes like Converse, DC, and Osiris.

tondraluv · November 2013

JordynLeighx3 said:

My UO is I know people think they are ugly but I absolutely love wedge sneakers. I have a hard time not dressing up & these make me feel comfortable & fashionable at the same time.
Disagree! They are super cute, done right and on the right person! Which I totally think you could pull off!

Thanks $:\$ ">

ClandestineX · November 2013

cece2682 said:

clgsquared said:
And I could have an army of kids and not want a mini-van. Ever. Superficial? Perhaps.

This was me until I had multiple children. Even then, I didn't want to give up my suv. My DH wanted me to get a minivan and I fought it all the way. But now that I have one, I don't think I could ever go back. In fact, I think driving a minivan makes me more of a nonconformist than all the suv drivers out there. Looking around, there are way less minivans than suvs on the road these days.
There are way less minivans on the road because they are hideous vehicles lol

Lol.

Anyways, minivans are not practical where I live. Sure MIL's Buick Terraza has AWD, but that does not stop it sliding down the hill when you need to get somewhere.. and when it is bad she cannot go up the hill, thus having to park at the bottom and walking up. My SUV climbs rocks and hills very easily, which I need.

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