I think that Canada is a superior country to the United States. When I was pregnant with DS and lived only 50 miles away from the border, DH and I often joked about going there to have an "anchor baby".
I think it's creepy when a living artist releases a song with a dead artist. (for example the Chris Brown and Aaliyah song that's out right now). Obviously her part was recorded before she died and was unreleased, but I still think it's creepy as fuck.
This. Who the fuck do these people think they are?!?! I mean, okay, I get Unforgettable by Natalie Cole when she sang with her father. It was her father!!! But the worst one of all is Kenny G with Louis Armstrong. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?! Those two guys are not even remotely on the same caliber as musicians and I think it's more than audacious that he did that.
Also, I hate Kenny G and think someone should take away his saxophone forever and tell him his music is just stupid.
Andplusalso I hate carpeting, love hardwoods, don't really "get" gaming, and don't like spankng or hitting at all ever.
And I don't like it when someone's house smells like a dog.
ETA: I hate children's birthday parties and wouldn't even want to go to them. I'm a heartless bitch.
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@triumphgrrrl@byegurlbye@ladyale , I'm sorry you all went through that. I was also spanked. My dad made a special paddle for me (wooden paddle with holes drilled in it so it would "sting more", in his words) & there was a chart on the wall of things I could so wrong & how many smacks that earned me. While I don't have any physical scars, it definitely did some serious emotional damage.
Good Lawd. That's a whole different level of fucked up. I'm so sorry you went through that
Sorry to all the people who went through abuse as children. I didn't ever get hit as a child so I don't know how you ladies feel. My mom was abused badly as a child and it really messed her up mentally, even in her adult life. Parenting was difficult for her because of it. When she yelled at me or my siblings it made her cry. She doesn't show affection well either. I can remember two occasions in which my mom hugged me in my entire life.
I'm so sorry all of you had to go through that. I also was spanked and I clearly remember each time I was. One time when I was 8 my mom slapped me in the face instead of a spanking because "that wasn't getting through" and I still haven't gotten over it.
I also got slapped in the face a couple times and really hate thinking about it. One time my dad became so furiously angry at me that he literally turned purple with rage. All the veins in his face bulged out and he was yelling at me so bad that spit started coming down his chin and he finally ran out of breath. He then drew in a very loud breath and yelled "I'm gonna kill you!!!" Then he walked away. I was terrified and was backed up against the wall. No hitting--but hugely effective. I definitely never did whatever it was again.
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Resumed TTC 6/2013~Chronic stomach pain and distension: 8/2013~TTA 1/2014 Until Resolved ~7/2014: Trip to the Mayo Clinic--SUCCESS!! Finally on the road to getting better.
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I was put on one of those wrist band "leashes" as a kid because I constantly wandered off. It wasn't because my parents weren't paying attention or keeping an eye on me, they would literally turn their back for a second and I would be gone. I got lost twice when I was two and caused my parents unnecessary heart attacks. They "leashed" me.
I never felt like I was "trapped" or leashed or anything. I just knew it was to make me pay attention and keep up with the family on outings.
All that to say, if my kids need one, I will totally put one of those backpacks with the strap attached on them. I don't care if anyone thinks I'm being ridiculous.
“When the first baby laughed for the first time, its laugh broke into a
thousand pieces, and they all went skipping about, and that was the
beginning of fairies.” - J.M. Barrie Peter Pan
I have died every day waiting for you. Darling, don't be afraid, I have loved you for a thousand years. And all along I believed I would find you, time has brought your heart to me. I have loved you for a thousand years. I'll love you a thousand more.
Ugh. Now I'm sad that you ladies felt that pain too. Also, calmly telling your kid they did wrong and then spanking then isn't discipline. It's a mind game. I always hated when I got the "no come here...come here I'm not going to hit you I promise!" And then a sound beating followed when you comply. That's bullshit.
A lot of my friends have younger children, and don't invite me to their kids birthdays. It hurts my feelings.
Actually, my very good friend texted me a few weeks ago and asked if it was okay if she didn't invite me and my 12 year old to her 5 year olds party, to cut down on cost. That is okay.
But, then I realized she lied to me. Two girls were coming with their kids that are closer in age. They were girls I was good friends with but I choose to not be anymore because they are mean, nasty bitches. Like, one kicked me out of her wedding because MY GRANDMA DIED and the other accused me of sleeping around when I was pregnant in April and didn't know who the father was. Cool friends.
So basically she HAD to not invite me, otherwise they wouldn't have come and her kids birthday would have sucked with less kids there.
"Your truth is different from my truth, and we're both right."
TTC since March 2013. BFP 4/13/13, blighted ovum discovered 6/6/13, m/c 6/8/13.
Slappy's poll actually reminded me that I have what might be a UO: I think pumpkin pie is gross.
TTC since August 2011, Me = 40, DH = 38 Unexplained IF. Tried Clomid for 3 cycles. All BFNs. BFP 1/6/13. Chemical pregnancy.
Moving on to IVF#1. ER 11/26/13, 16 eggs retreived, 12 mature and all fertilized. 2 blasts transferred on 12/1. All other embies arrested so nothing left to freeze. Beta 12/10 = BFN. IVF #2 March 2014. BFP!!! TEAM BLUE!!!
I can't keep reading this thread. Coming from a home where my "dad" physically, mentally & emotionally abused my mother & I, these posts are bringing back way too many sick & painful memories...
My "dad" said & did some fucked.up.shit. I mean, "I had to go to a psychologist for years" kind of fucked.up.shit.
I smacked DS on the hand one time for almost touching the heater in our bathroom last winter. I think I ended up crying more than he did. It was a reaction to smack his hand away to prevent getting burned rather than an actual slap. My mother has made more than one comment to me that I never acted the way that he does. He's not a bad child, he's rambunctious. What two and a half year old isn't? But I spent my life terrified of how my father might punish me, and I still have an unhealthy fear of him to this day. I don't ever want DS to feel that way about me.
Edit:Clarity
I'll admit, I've hurt my kid out of fear before. Well… hurt's a strong word I guess. But we were in a parking lot and I was getting my keys out of my purse to unlock the door when he saw a balloon bobbing in the middle of the parking lot aisle. Within seconds, he had got out of my grip and ran for it. Two cars were coming in both directions and I snatched him up so fast that he fell and scraped up his knees pretty badly. I screamed at him a lot for that, too. It was terrifying and he still has scars on both knees.
When I tell my husband how guilty I feel, all he says is "Imagine what his knees would look like if you hadn't snatched him up" and I immediately want to cry.
(See, if I'd had him on one of those leash things, he wouldn't have run quite as far… )
“When the first baby laughed for the first time, its laugh broke into a
thousand pieces, and they all went skipping about, and that was the
beginning of fairies.” - J.M. Barrie Peter Pan
I have died every day waiting for you. Darling, don't be afraid, I have loved you for a thousand years. And all along I believed I would find you, time has brought your heart to me. I have loved you for a thousand years. I'll love you a thousand more.
I was spanked, slapped, got the belt, soap shoved in my mouth, grounded etc. when I was younger. My parents got punishments like that, so of course that's what we got.
I've spanked DD, although it's been quite a few years since I have. It's a reaction from me learning it during my childhood. I wish I'd had the patience not too. 90% of my parenting has been explaining what she did wrong and why it's bad. She's 12 now, and I don't even ground her. She just doesn't do much to warrant much punishment. I got blessed with a good kid..so far.
I will side eye the hell out of someone who spanks a toddler though. Toddlers don't understand certain actions. Please don't spank babies. They totes don't get it.
"Your truth is different from my truth, and we're both right."
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haha - I know my carpet love is unpopular! It's cool.
Whoever gets to my house first gets the clawfoot tub. We are are going to sell it when we redo the bathroom. I think they're nice in theory, but we live in a city house. Small small small and space is at a premium. The tub is just far too massive for the bathroom and cleaning under/around it is a nightmare.
You live in Philly don't you? I'm 45 minutes away in South Jersey I win the clawfoot tub bitches!
I let myself start listening to Christmas music after Grey Cup because Canada.
The day after Thanksgiving, I am 100% Christmas. I start listening as soon as they start playing it nonstop until new years. I LOVE LOVE LOOOOOOVE Christmas!
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I'm actually not against spanking. What I am against is child abuse. Spanking a child when you're angry is child abuse, in my opinion.
I will NEVER spank my children. I have my father's temper and I don't
trust myself. Hubs believes in spanking, and I told him that as long as
he didn't spank our children angry, I would be fine with that. He has a
very good temper, so I'm not too worried about that.
haha - I know my carpet love is unpopular! It's cool.
Whoever gets to my house first gets the clawfoot tub. We are are going to sell it when we redo the bathroom. I think they're nice in theory, but we live in a city house. Small small small and space is at a premium. The tub is just far too massive for the bathroom and cleaning under/around it is a nightmare.
I seriously judge grown adults who play video games or call themselves gamers.
I get it some people like video games. I completely understand playing with kids, nephews, nieces etc on occasion. Grown men who spend all night playing call of duty or whatever, I side eye.
My father and brother own a "Gaming Bar." They need these adults to play video games, it's not like kids are going to/can hang out at a bar and buy booze and food all night. It's not somewhere DH and I hang out since we aren't "gamers," but it's certainly important in our family.
@triumphgrrrl@byegurlbye@ladyale , I'm sorry you all went through that. I was also spanked. My dad made a special paddle for me (wooden paddle with holes drilled in it so it would "sting more", in his words) & there was a chart on the wall of things I could so wrong & how many smacks that earned me. While I don't have any physical scars, it definitely did some serious emotional damage.
I understand that - my dad had a black belt with metal stud thingys in it. Not sharp, but metal hurts more than a plain belt. And if we fought our "punishment" we were hit more.
True story: I went thru Foster parent training and then barely made it thru the abuse part. And then I never went thru with it because I just couldn't.
I am sorry you all went through those situations. Truly terrible :-( :-*
I got punished with one of those too, or it's really fun to go pick your own willow switch. Them bitches sting and cut, I have a few scars from a willow switch that was thin. Being a kid you think the smallest ones wont hurt as bad...wrong the thick ones are better.
I swattted my child with my hand and felt like a pile of shit. I cried, now she gets time outs and that has been effective.
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I was spanked as a child, and I spank my kids. It's a rarity, and only when they do something colossally stupid, like running out into the street. We have a talk after. My big ones are really too big, and the baby... I can't remember the last time he was spanked. within the last year, certainly, but longer than 6 months. I get it far more often.
Maybe I'm being super sensitive after what some of these ladies have shared about their childhoods, and remembering things in mine, but I really don't think your sexual preferences needed to be included. I think it belittles the subject that was being discussed
haha - I know my carpet love is unpopular! It's cool.
Whoever gets to my house first gets the clawfoot tub. We are are going to sell it when we redo the bathroom. I think they're nice in theory, but we live in a city house. Small small small and space is at a premium. The tub is just far too massive for the bathroom and cleaning under/around it is a nightmare.
You live in Philly don't you? I'm 45 minutes away in South Jersey I win the clawfoot tub bitches!
@Janda426 I'm 15 minutes away in South Jersey. I'll race you!
I was put on one of those wrist band "leashes" as a kid because I constantly wandered off. It wasn't because my parents weren't paying attention or keeping an eye on me, they would literally turn their back for a second and I would be gone. I got lost twice when I was two and caused my parents unnecessary heart attacks. They "leashed" me.
I never felt like I was "trapped" or leashed or anything. I just knew it was to make me pay attention and keep up with the family on outings.
All that to say, if my kids need one, I will totally put one of those backpacks with the strap attached on them. I don't care if anyone thinks I'm being ridiculous.
I have to say that I am a fan of the little animal backpacks with a tail 'leash'. I know someone who was so against those even though their child constantly ran away no matter where they were. Finally, instead of the 'leash' backpack, they taped a piece of paper to his back that said, "If lost please call 000-000-0000". Um...yes, because a kidnapper is going to return your child because of a sticky note.
I would much rather have my kid wear a cute furry monkey backpack so I can hold on to them than have them run away and never see them again.
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I totally agree. I love the idea of those backpacks, but would probably not use them for fear of everyone thinking I'm ::that:: mother. I care too much what people think. But, like, my mom has NINE kids, and sometimes it really is impossible to keep 2 eyes on 9 kids. Any mother should understand that, but the stigma against those things is so fierce I feel like they'll never be "accepted"
I seriously judge grown adults who play video games or call themselves gamers.
I get it some people like video games. I completely understand playing with kids, nephews, nieces etc on occasion. Grown men who spend all night playing call of duty or whatever, I side eye.
My father and brother own a "Gaming Bar." They need these adults to play video games, it's not like kids are going to/can hang out at a bar and buy booze and food all night. It's not somewhere DH and I hang out since we aren't "gamers," but it's certainly important in our family.
They need to open one where I live. that sounds amazing.
Regarding spanking...my mom used a wooden spoon. She had a big one at home and carried a smaller one in her purse just in case she needed it. Yeah, I won't be doing that.
I was put on one of those wrist band "leashes" as a kid because I constantly wandered off. It wasn't because my parents weren't paying attention or keeping an eye on me, they would literally turn their back for a second and I would be gone. I got lost twice when I was two and caused my parents unnecessary heart attacks. They "leashed" me.
I never felt like I was "trapped" or leashed or anything. I just knew it was to make me pay attention and keep up with the family on outings.
All that to say, if my kids need one, I will totally put one of those backpacks with the strap attached on them. I don't care if anyone thinks I'm being ridiculous.
I have to say that I am a fan of the little animal backpacks with a tail 'leash'. I know someone who was so against those even though their child constantly ran away no matter where they were. Finally, instead of the 'leash' backpack, they taped a piece of paper to his back that said, "If lost please call 000-000-0000". Um...yes, because a kidnapper is going to return your child because of a sticky note.
I would much rather have my kid wear a cute furry monkey backpack so I can hold on to them than have them run away and never see them again.
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I totally agree. I love the idea of those backpacks, but would probably not use them for fear of everyone thinking I'm ::that:: mother. I care too much what people think. But, like, my mom has NINE kids, and sometimes it really is impossible to keep 2 eyes on 9 kids. Any mother should understand that, but the stigma against those things is so fierce I feel like they'll never be "accepted"
I thought I would never use a backpack leash either, but my 3 year old is quick. I don't want to always be pushing a stroller and I think it's good for her to be able to get up and walk around on her own. These things are awesome when your going to do something you want your kid to experience and not have to be confined. Such as a fair, the zoo, a planetarium, an aquarium and such. I haven't used ours yet but it's time is coming I used to be one of those judgey bitches that side eyed that back pack leash...yea I was an asshole.
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@von1976: I tried talking to my parents about this too and they also claimed none of it never happened. Denial CAN be an ugly thing, and I'm sorry you dealt with that too :-(
@Sweettea42: I believe that was a very reasonable reaction to swatting your DS's hand away to avoid burning himself. A quick swat vs potentially bad burn? I'd go with quick swat. From the short time I've been here, I'm sure you're an excellent mommy :-)
Also, it irks me when my grandparents would say "oh our kids didn't act like they when they were little" or "our children never cried like they do today." Ummm...I'm sorry...is a baby/toddler crying some new fad that started after the 1950's that I'm unaware of???
My dad is an awesome father now. Same with my mom. But growing up, they had so many issues that they took out on me and my sister. My sister got the brunt of it when we were little kids because I was quiet and submissive, but she would talk back and piss him off the the point that he took off his steel toed boot (he was a fireman) and whacked her in the head with it. He had a lot of issues to work through that culminated in him using drugs and beating my mom until she left him.
In turn, it left my mom with a lot of issues so that as a teen/young adult she would just snap sometimes if me or my sister had a crappy attitude and busted my nose a few times. My sister and her also teamed up on me a lot because I still wanted to talk to my dad, so i clearly remember once or twice them tag-teaming me and beating the shit out of me...the second time when I was 17 and moved out.
My family has a healthy relationship now. We all went to some form of therapy for a while, and now I am emotionally and physically healthy.
I honestly have a lot of fond memories of my childhood, mainly because I have forgiven the rest of my family for all of the BSC shit they pulled, and I am close to both parents and my sister now.
I will never spank my kids. I actually was set on being child free until after DH and I were married, and even then it took lots of long, tear-filled talks for him to convince me that I wouldn't be a shitty parent. I am positive I will hear a lot of BS from my parents and grandparents, and probably neighbors and people I don't even talk to, because I'm in the deep south and most people I know are proponents of spanking. But I don't want my children to fear me, I want them to respect me. And inflicting pain doesn't instill respect, it instills fear.
I was put on one of those wrist band "leashes" as a kid because I constantly wandered off. It wasn't because my parents weren't paying attention or keeping an eye on me, they would literally turn their back for a second and I would be gone. I got lost twice when I was two and caused my parents unnecessary heart attacks. They "leashed" me.
I never felt like I was "trapped" or leashed or anything. I just knew it was to make me pay attention and keep up with the family on outings.
All that to say, if my kids need one, I will totally put one of those backpacks with the strap attached on them. I don't care if anyone thinks I'm being ridiculous.
I have to say that I am a fan of the little animal backpacks with a tail 'leash'. I know someone who was so against those even though their child constantly ran away no matter where they were. Finally, instead of the 'leash' backpack, they taped a piece of paper to his back that said, "If lost please call 000-000-0000". Um...yes, because a kidnapper is going to return your child because of a sticky note.
I would much rather have my kid wear a cute furry monkey backpack so I can hold on to them than have them run away and never see them again.
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I totally agree. I love the idea of those backpacks, but would probably not use them for fear of everyone thinking I'm ::that:: mother. I care too much what people think. But, like, my mom has NINE kids, and sometimes it really is impossible to keep 2 eyes on 9 kids. Any mother should understand that, but the stigma against those things is so fierce I feel like they'll never be "accepted"
One of my friends is so against them, it makes ME angry. She always tells me "How hard is it to hold your kid's hand the whole time?"
Um. She has no kids and has never babysat any or been around ones that are insanely independent. When we went to Disney World, our son was 2.5 and sat in the stroller the whole time, but our five year old HATED holding our hand. She had things to see and do! She didn't want to walk at our pace the whole time. We let her walk ahead of us several steps, but if I had a kid prone to running off? Oh I will totally put that backpack on and let them go. That way they can enjoy things around them without being all up in my space.
(Besides, sometimes I DON'T WANT TO HOLD ANYONE'S HAND.)
“When the first baby laughed for the first time, its laugh broke into a
thousand pieces, and they all went skipping about, and that was the
beginning of fairies.” - J.M. Barrie Peter Pan
I have died every day waiting for you. Darling, don't be afraid, I have loved you for a thousand years. And all along I believed I would find you, time has brought your heart to me. I have loved you for a thousand years. I'll love you a thousand more.
I'm not a big spanker, but reading all of your stories makes me so, so sad. That is not "spanking" in my eyes. When we were spanked growing up, it was a pop on the butt. No where else and never with anything other than my parents' hand. It smarted for about two seconds and then it was over. It was never one of those "can't sit down for a week" things.
Now, my husband was hit with a yard stick. If he was running, he said he would get hit anywhere from his shoulders to the backs of his knees. His mom slapped him across the face, too. That's abuse.
I don't think about what my parents did to me as abuse. I have no emotional or physical scarring/trauma from it. The stories you all are sharing are heartbreaking. To me, that's not spanking. That's beating the crap out of your child. I'm so so sorry you all had to deal with that. I wish I could "spank" your parents for you.
“When the first baby laughed for the first time, its laugh broke into a
thousand pieces, and they all went skipping about, and that was the
beginning of fairies.” - J.M. Barrie Peter Pan
I have died every day waiting for you. Darling, don't be afraid, I have loved you for a thousand years. And all along I believed I would find you, time has brought your heart to me. I have loved you for a thousand years. I'll love you a thousand more.
I don't think spanking is bad, so long as you don't do it out of anger. If you're going to spank, sit down, talk about what they did wrong, then swat.
I just don't even know where to begin. I probably should just not answer this but I have to. You must have no idea how fucked up this is. I was spanked as a child, because it was for my own good didn't I know if my dad didn't spank me they didn't love me? I have scars physically and emotionally from this that can never be reversed. I learned nothing from it other than to fear men (my mom didn't spank) and hate my father. I got spanked with whatever object would hurt the most, many times those skinny little rods on blinds. Spanking is an acceptable term for beating children and it's disgusting. We're still recovering from his decision to spank and our relationship will never be what it should be. When it was done to me it was always done in anger and to this day if someone starts getting angry I have an anxiety attack, it's embarrassing and humiliating. There is just no reason for it. And to sit a child down calmly discuss something with them and THEN hit them, that's a special kind of stupid. You really need to do some research on what you are doing before you permanently mess up your children psychologically and harm your relationship with them forever. I need to stop now because I can't stop shaking, this comment is just so infuriating.
I seriously judge grown adults who play video games or call themselves gamers.
I get it some people like video games. I completely understand playing with kids, nephews, nieces etc on occasion. Grown men who spend all night playing call of duty or whatever, I side eye.
I guess DH and I are one of those kinds of people then. We typically play our video games for hours on the weekends. It's our way of vegging out. The way we see it, it's no different than watching hours of crappy TV like reality shows and whatnot.
ETA: I can't get with the carpet movement. I have hardwood floors with area rugs. The area rugs get so gross with 2 cats and I'm cleaning them almost everyday. I'm almost tempted to throw them out too.
We're those kind of people too. Last night DH played 4 hours of GTA 5 and I Sim'd like no one's business. Sometimes we even play together.
I think we are going to have to run away together. ">
If it seems wrong to teach a child not to hit someone by hitting them, then I don't see how it is right in any other situation.
Who said anything about it being to teach them not to hit?
When DS tried to take a running header into the open pre-heated oven after repeatedly being told not to, it was the fastest and most effective way to get his attention fast. It's reserved for extreme circumstances here. And not after a lengthy discussion- that happens after the swat and the time out that follows.
She said that in reference to something another poster said specifically about spanking to teach not hitting.
I would be really hurt if my friends didn't invite us to their kids' parties bc we don't have kids. I love getting them presents and watching their little faces light up. My husband and I love playing COD. It's something we both enjoy so I don't see the problem. The only reason it wouldn't be ok is if it interfered with our lives but it's really just a winter I'm also in agreement with spanking. I was spanked as a child and I see nothing wrong with it. There is a huge difference between a swat on the behind for doing something bad and straight up beating your child. The only instance I don't agree with it is if the child is getting in trouble for hitting someone else. It doesn't make much sense to punish hitting with hitting. That being said, I would employ other punishments before spanking (time outs, extra chores, grounding). Andplusalso, I'm ok with ppl not agreeing with me on this. You raise your children your way and I'll raise my children my way.
I'm not a big spanker, but reading all of your stories makes me so, so sad. That is not "spanking" in my eyes. When we were spanked growing up, it was a pop on the butt. No where else and never with anything other than my parents' hand. It smarted for about two seconds and then it was over. It was never one of those "can't sit down for a week" things.
Now, my husband was hit with a yard stick. If he was running, he said he would get hit anywhere from his shoulders to the backs of his knees. His mom slapped him across the face, too. That's abuse.
I don't think about what my parents did to me as abuse. I have no emotional or physical scarring/trauma from it. The stories you all are sharing are heartbreaking. To me, that's not spanking. That's beating the crap out of your child. I'm so so sorry you all had to deal with that. I wish I could "spank" your parents for you.
I really couldn't have said this better myself. I posted my response before everyone posted their stories and I don't view any of that as "spanking" like you said. Spanking to me is a swat on the bottom and nothing more. I'm really sorry to everyone who had to endure abuse. That makes me very sad and I really can't say I'm sorry enough.
@Ghostmonkey If you go back and read my response, I said that I wouldn't spank my kid as punishment for hitting someone because it's a contradiction. I completely agree with you that it's reserved for extreme circumstances and that a talk would occur after.
UO: I am morally opposed to participation trophies and ribbons. That is bull shit. There are winners and there are losers. If you lose, try harder next time. I think it is scary that a whole generation is being raised to feel like they deserve recognition just for trying.
Re: UO Thursday
Also, I hate Kenny G and think someone should take away his saxophone forever and tell him his music is just stupid.
Andplusalso I hate carpeting, love hardwoods, don't really "get" gaming, and don't like spankng or hitting at all ever.
And I don't like it when someone's house smells like a dog.
ETA: I hate children's birthday parties and wouldn't even want to go to them. I'm a heartless bitch.
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Resumed TTC 6/2013~Chronic stomach pain and distension: 8/2013~TTA 1/2014 Until Resolved ~7/2014: Trip to the Mayo Clinic--SUCCESS!! Finally on the road to getting better.
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Good Lawd. That's a whole different level of fucked up. I'm so sorry you went through that
I'm so sorry all of you had to go through that. I also was spanked and I clearly remember each time I was. One time when I was 8 my mom slapped me in the face instead of a spanking because "that wasn't getting through" and I still haven't gotten over it.
I also got slapped in the face a couple times and really hate thinking about it. One time my dad became so furiously angry at me that he literally turned purple with rage. All the veins in his face bulged out and he was yelling at me so bad that spit started coming down his chin and he finally ran out of breath. He then drew in a very loud breath and yelled "I'm gonna kill you!!!" Then he walked away. I was terrified and was backed up against the wall. No hitting--but hugely effective. I definitely never did whatever it was again.
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TTC #1 8/2012~Chronic Pelvic Pain Condition began 10/2012~Told I was crazy by many doctors until a good specialist DXed a labral tear and bone impingement in left hip 4/2013~Surgery on left hip: 5/31/13 SUCCESS!!! Pain flares to continue indefinitely (but mostly gone).
Resumed TTC 6/2013~Chronic stomach pain and distension: 8/2013~TTA 1/2014 Until Resolved ~7/2014: Trip to the Mayo Clinic--SUCCESS!! Finally on the road to getting better.
Resumed TTC 7/2014! Third time's the charm....8/2014 Visited the RE~DX: MFI/low morph~Straight to IVF with ICSI! 9/2014~Transferred 1 perfect beautiful 6AA blast with 10 to freeze!!!~10/8/2014: BFP!!!! EDD: 6/17/15 STICK LITTLE BEAN!!! IT'S A BOY!!!!!
“When the first baby laughed for the first time, its laugh broke into a thousand pieces, and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning of fairies.”
- J.M. Barrie Peter Pan
married on the sweetest day 10.20.12
Chicken - 07.08.06 | Bubsy - 02.24.09 | Sunshine - 07.16.14
Also, calmly telling your kid they did wrong and then spanking then isn't discipline. It's a mind game. I always hated when I got the "no come here...come here I'm not going to hit you I promise!" And then a sound beating followed when you comply. That's bullshit.
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A lot of my friends have younger children, and don't invite me to their kids birthdays. It hurts my feelings.
Actually, my very good friend texted me a few weeks ago and asked if it was okay if she didn't invite me and my 12 year old to her 5 year olds party, to cut down on cost. That is okay.
But, then I realized she lied to me. Two girls were coming with their kids that are closer in age. They were girls I was good friends with but I choose to not be anymore because they are mean, nasty bitches. Like, one kicked me out of her wedding because MY GRANDMA DIED and the other accused me of sleeping around when I was pregnant in April and didn't know who the father was. Cool friends.
So basically she HAD to not invite me, otherwise they wouldn't have come and her kids birthday would have sucked with less kids there.
"Your truth is different from my truth, and we're both right."
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I'm so sorry to all who were spanked.
Slappy's poll actually reminded me that I have what might be a UO: I think pumpkin pie is gross.
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My "dad" said & did some fucked.up.shit. I mean, "I had to go to a psychologist for years" kind of fucked.up.shit.
.....So with that, I'm out.
“When the first baby laughed for the first time, its laugh broke into a thousand pieces, and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning of fairies.”
- J.M. Barrie Peter Pan
married on the sweetest day 10.20.12
Chicken - 07.08.06 | Bubsy - 02.24.09 | Sunshine - 07.16.14
I was spanked, slapped, got the belt, soap shoved in my mouth, grounded etc. when I was younger. My parents got punishments like that, so of course that's what we got.
I've spanked DD, although it's been quite a few years since I have. It's a reaction from me learning it during my childhood. I wish I'd had the patience not too. 90% of my parenting has been explaining what she did wrong and why it's bad. She's 12 now, and I don't even ground her. She just doesn't do much to warrant much punishment. I got blessed with a good kid..so far.
I will side eye the hell out of someone who spanks a toddler though. Toddlers don't understand certain actions. Please don't spank babies. They totes don't get it.
"Your truth is different from my truth, and we're both right."
TTC since March 2013. BFP 4/13/13, blighted ovum discovered 6/6/13, m/c 6/8/13.
BFP 11/10/13, EDD 7/25/13 - stick little owlet!
:-&
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**Stinkerbelle-8-27-10 * Mr.P's 2nd Mama 7-27-07**
I will NEVER spank my children. I have my father's temper and I don't trust myself. Hubs believes in spanking, and I told him that as long as he didn't spank our children angry, I would be fine with that. He has a very good temper, so I'm not too worried about that.
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**Stinkerbelle-8-27-10 * Mr.P's 2nd Mama 7-27-07**
Maybe I'm being super sensitive after what some of these ladies have shared about their childhoods, and remembering things in mine, but I really don't think your sexual preferences needed to be included. I think it belittles the subject that was being discussed
You aren't being sensitive. I feel the same way.
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@von1976: I tried talking to my parents about this too and they also claimed none of it never happened. Denial CAN be an ugly thing, and I'm sorry you dealt with that too :-(
@Sweettea42: I believe that was a very reasonable reaction to swatting your DS's hand away to avoid burning himself. A quick swat vs potentially bad burn? I'd go with quick swat. From the short time I've been here, I'm sure you're an excellent mommy :-)
Also, it irks me when my grandparents would say "oh our kids didn't act like they when they were little" or "our children never cried like they do today." Ummm...I'm sorry...is a baby/toddler crying some new fad that started after the 1950's that I'm unaware of???
Married 7/21/12
Off bcp and ttc 9/1/13
bfp 7/20/14, m/c 7/23
will ttc again 8/14
“When the first baby laughed for the first time, its laugh broke into a thousand pieces, and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning of fairies.”
- J.M. Barrie Peter Pan
married on the sweetest day 10.20.12
Chicken - 07.08.06 | Bubsy - 02.24.09 | Sunshine - 07.16.14
“When the first baby laughed for the first time, its laugh broke into a thousand pieces, and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning of fairies.”
- J.M. Barrie Peter Pan
married on the sweetest day 10.20.12
Chicken - 07.08.06 | Bubsy - 02.24.09 | Sunshine - 07.16.14
EDD- 06/13/2017
**Stinkerbelle-8-27-10 * Mr.P's 2nd Mama 7-27-07**
She said that in reference to something another poster said specifically about spanking to teach not hitting.
ETA:
I really couldn't have said this better myself. I posted my response before everyone posted their stories and I don't view any of that as "spanking" like you said. Spanking to me is a swat on the bottom and nothing more. I'm really sorry to everyone who had to endure abuse. That makes me very sad and I really can't say I'm sorry enough.
This thread is giving me the sads. I'm so sorry for all of you that were hurt by your parents or other adults.
I wasn't spanked, DH was. I made him agree long before we ever got married we wouldn't spank our kids.