H doesn't agree anymore

Rrrrrachel · September 2013

When babies barely react it's because they're in shock, not because it doesn't hurt. Of course it hurts. Why wouldn't it? You're ripping away skin.

nicole mackenzie · September 2013

2010weddinggal said:

Andrewsgal said:

2010weddinggal said:
@mom2twin, so I guess any parent who chooses to cir mutilates their child if you really are a medical professional then you know that it is up to the parent. You also know that it does not hurt them that bad, seriously that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard....
How do you know? Grown men say it hurts like hell and babies can't talk.

That is just it is a grown man, a newborn while it may hurt everyone I have talked to that had their baby circ said baby barley reacted after. And they do not even remember it happening seriously....

Baby may not remember a lot of things. Personally I have a couple of memories from when I was three at the earliest...

That doesn't make it ok or mean that the baby doesn't feel pain/discomfort.

Andrewsgal · September 2013

Rrrrrachel said:
When babies barely react it's because they're in shock, not because it doesn't hurt. Of course it hurts. Why wouldn't it? You're ripping away skin.

This they are not crating because they are in shock from the freaking pain!

RayRay007 · September 2013

dani+california said:

@mom2twin Saying that in your experience, this is what you've heard VS stating twice that ALL medical personnel refers to it as mutilation are two different things. I'm not belittling you, I was correcting you, because you were in fact wrong. Also-as a medical professional you should be up to date on your medical facts and not citing two-bit operations making claims based on nothing but personal anecdotes from a man who by all counts sounds sexist and uneducated. I would expect more from MY OB/GYN, and hope that I am never your patient, especially since you seem to be biased and not at all basing your medical opinions on actual facts.

Oh, you believed her when she said she was an ob-gyn. Hahaha.

ckred27 · September 2013

Both of my boys are circumsized and we had no problems at all. Never bled afterword or anything, looked a lil sore for a day, but even when I changed the vaseline/gauze they didnt fuss.

amhah09 · September 2013

I stated previously that we did circ my DS but I don't want to this time. I skimmed through some of the comments, not all of them, but this is how I feel about comments I've seen.

I don't really agree anymore that it's our right as parents to decide whether to circ or not. I believe it should be the child's choice. If he decides when he's older that he doesn't want his foreskin then by all means he can have it done then.

The reason for most infections in uncircumcised penises is because they aren't cared for properly. You aren't supposed to retract and clean. It eventually retracts itself. An uncircumcised penis is no more a health risk in regards to infections if cared for properly than a vagina is. Probably less so.

It's not just cutting off a piece of skin. The foreskin has more than twice the nerve endings as a clitoris. At birth it is adhered to the penis similar to the way our fingernails are.

If pain is managed adequately it isn't as big of a deal, I understand that. I think I read that the penile nerve block is pretty effective. It's absolutely necessary that the provider performing the procedure gives it time to take effect though otherwise it's pointless. Sugar water-dipped pacifiers are not pain relief. All they do is shock/distract a newborn and give it the sucking comfort. It has no pain control over the circumcision. And even after the procedure they take like 2 weeks to heal.

The thing that gets me the most is it really isn't necessary. It is done for cultural and religious reasons but for cleanliness reasons that's really been debunked. There's no benefit to circumcised vs. not as far as cleanliness is concerned (again, if cared for properly). And of course some parents do it for aesthetic reasons or because they want him to look like his daddy (really how many men grew up seeing their daddy's penis?) or don't want him to be made fun of in locker rooms when he's older (hello, statistics show that circumcision is now less popular across the nation. There are only a handful or less of states that have high circumcision rates).

I know there are complications as serious death but I don't read use that in my arguments against it (mostly to DH) because they're not really that common.

If my DH still decides he wants this baby circ'ed (assuming it's a boy of course) after he's read in the info I have and watches the video then I don't really know which way we go about it. I think if I were to have another son circ'ed which goes against everything I feel right now then I would have a serious conversation with my midwife regarding how they do the procedure, very specifically. And I will make sure my DH will be there to watch it.

My best friend just has this discussion with her husband who was very adamantly pro-circ and he did eventually change his mind. None of the research she provided swayed him but after he watched videos he was convinced not to.

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