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  • I was simply stating, other said about stuff for headaches and i just said i hadn't taken anything for mine

     

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  • Cashingn2 said:
    Yeah. This whole thing is making me feel all ragey. I don't smoke pot when I'm pregnant. I don't. It seems pretty hypocritical to me though that the same people who are bashing the idea of using pot while pregnant in any amount are the same folks who say drinking in moderation is ok. Just saying.
    Let me say this, I have not drank one sip of alcohol since I got pregnant, but I don't side eye someone for drinking a glass of wine a week. I used to smoke pot in my teens and that had a stronger effect on me than one glass of wine.
    My point was the lack of scientific data about a safe level of usage. It's unknown, but my guess would be that one toke of pot once a week is probably pretty equivalent to one glass of wine a week.
    I can't argue your point. Also, I guess we never clarified how much pot one would be smoking in said hypothetical situation.I think I'm comfortable with someone drinking one glass of wine because there are studies that are pretty clear on the safe quantity for that. Again, I won't do either.

    We probably could have avoided 3/4 of this conversation if it was clarified how much weed we were talking about

     

  • There probably are more women that will say they have a beer or a glass of wine than say they had a toke on a joint or a bong. I'm guessing it would be close to the smoking poll I put up, I am sure there are more women that smoke than what is voted, they just don't want to admit it.

     

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    JaxxM said:

    But there has been studies done on THC. Just because there's not a shit ton of them doesn't mean they aren't out there. Pot being laced with shit is a joke - ya maybe if you buy from some crack head or gangster. Just FYI I own a dispensary and am extremely pro medical marijuania. I don't smoke or ingest while pregnant because I don't have to. But I definitely don't talk shit to people or put them down for it. I'd rather see people use THC then opiates for pain any damn day of the week. Before you knock people for using mmj maybe you should Iook and research harder then listening to hearsay. In my ten years in the business I have never in my life met or heard of a baby having a deformity from THC..... Opiates omg go ask a midwife or nurse about those babied in icu

    I completely agree with Jaxx here. My brother owns dispensary as well and there are many studies on MJ use during pregnancy. Some even recommend the use of it. I don't use it while pregnant but I definitely know for a fact that opiates and alcohol are much worse than THC.

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  • This can be taken anyway anyone wants it to be, but I think that anyone on welfare and pregnant should need to take weekly drug tests. Because when their kids come out with issues they just get more money...

    But hell yeah I eat tuna and lunch meat, and drink coffee all in moderation and occasionally.

     

  • This can be taken anyway anyone wants it to be, but I think that anyone on welfare and pregnant should need to take weekly drug tests. Because when their kids come out with issues they just get more money...

    But hell yeah I eat tuna and lunch meat, and drink coffee all in moderation and occasionally.

    You seem like such a peach.

  • Cashingn2 said:

    Wow this went all over the place. Anyway, I have a medical marijuana prescription because I had to have major reconstructive surgery on my knee last year and opiates make me deathly ill.

    So therefore I'm totally an expert. An armchair academic on the matter even ;)

    That being said I don't drink or smoke while pregnant. Personally, I think I'm going to fuck up my kid already, so I'm just trying not to exacerbate it.

    I forgot who it was, but someone here had to be on pretty strong painkillers her whole pregnancy. I think if I had the option of ingesting pot or taking Percocet everyday while pregnant I'd rather ingest pot. But as someone who doesn't have to do that it's not my place to have an opinion on other people's suffering.

    I think the issue here is that we are discussing recreational use and not use for pain regulation. I also consider purchasing from a licensed dispensary to be different than purchasing from Joe down the street. I still wouldn't want to have to use either during pregnancy but I think I'd choose pills over pot. Being that im not in that situation, I can't say for sure though
    Yeah if I can't sleep id rather rub one out than get high anyway. Which is the only reason i sort of miss it.
    I'd rather get high then rub one out if I can't sleep. I kid, I kid. Sort of.
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    Yeah if I can't sleep id rather rub one out than get high anyway. Which is the only reason i sort of miss it.
    I'd rather get high then rub one out if I can't sleep. I kid, I kid. Sort of.

    LOL why not do both?? JK 

     

  • Wow this went all over the place. Anyway, I have a medical marijuana prescription because I had to have major reconstructive surgery on my knee last year and opiates make me deathly ill. So therefore I'm totally an expert. An armchair academic on the matter even ;) That being said I don't drink or smoke while pregnant. Personally, I think I'm going to fuck up my kid already, so I'm just trying not to exacerbate it. I forgot who it was, but someone here had to be on pretty strong painkillers her whole pregnancy. I think if I had the option of ingesting pot or taking Percocet everyday while pregnant I'd rather ingest pot. But as someone who doesn't have to do that it's not my place to have an opinion on other people's suffering.
    I think the issue here is that we are discussing recreational use and not use for pain regulation. I also consider purchasing from a licensed dispensary to be different than purchasing from Joe down the street. I still wouldn't want to have to use either during pregnancy but I think I'd choose pills over pot. Being that im not in that situation, I can't say for sure though
    Yeah if I can't sleep id rather rub one out than get high anyway. Which is the only reason i sort of miss it.

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  • Cashingn2 said:

     

    Yeah if I can't sleep id rather rub one out than get high anyway. Which is the only reason i sort of miss it.
    I'd rather get high then rub one out if I can't sleep. I kid, I kid. Sort of.


    LOL why not do both?? JK 
    Yeah, that's what I said.
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  • This can be taken anyway anyone wants it to be, but I think that anyone on welfare and pregnant should need to take weekly drug tests. Because when their kids come out with issues they just get more money...

    But hell yeah I eat tuna and lunch meat, and drink coffee all in moderation and occasionally.

    You seem like such a peach.

    where I am from there is a VERY high native population, the highest in Canada and when they are pregnant and still doing drugs I don't think as a tax payer I should have to pay for them to be on drugs and hurting the children that they do have so they can get more money. 

     

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  • Cashingn2 said:

    JaxxM said:

    But there has been studies done on THC. Just because there's not a shit ton of them doesn't mean they aren't out there. Pot being laced with shit is a joke - ya maybe if you buy from some crack head or gangster. Just FYI I own a dispensary and am extremely pro medical marijuania. I don't smoke or ingest while pregnant because I don't have to. But I definitely don't talk shit to people or put them down for it. I'd rather see people use THC then opiates for pain any damn day of the week. Before you knock people for using mmj maybe you should Iook and research harder then listening to hearsay. In my ten years in the business I have never in my life met or heard of a baby having a deformity from THC..... Opiates omg go ask a midwife or nurse about those babied in icu

    I completely agree with Jaxx here. My brother owns dispensary as well and there are many studies on MJ use during pregnancy. Some even recommend the use of it. I don't use it while pregnant but I definitely know for a fact that opiates and alcohol are much worse than THC.
    For the last time, we are discussing recreational use and not medicinal. JFC! And we are not suggesting that anyone should be using opiates without good reason either
    Chill. You said that after I wrote what I wrote.


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  • ColeRose said:
    WHY IS EVERYONE SO RAGEY!!?!! GO SMOKE SOME POT ;)
    According to the amount of "AHHHH HORMONES!!" posts...I'm thinking we're just a ragey group today...

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  • Cashingn2 said:

    ColeRose said:

    WHY IS EVERYONE SO RAGEY!!?!! GO SMOKE SOME POT ;)

    I was just thinking that if I was NOT pregnant that's what I'd need to do right now haha. I'm ready because of my whiny dog and husband
    Every few years I think how nice it would be to sit outside and smoke a joint. And then I do it and I remember why I hate it. I think after the last time I finally learned my lesson.

    But sometimes, I really wish I had some kind I habit. It seems relaxing.

  • Ok I'm late on this conversation but just have to comment. What's worse for your unborn baby... A few tokes here and there while pregnant or obesity / lack of exercise / poor eating habits while pregnant? Not advocating smoking pot while pregnant, but put it in perspective people. It's hardly the worst thing you could do.
  • I am from Canada so I don't know what they tried to do in FL.

     

  • Cashingn2 said:
    But there has been studies done on THC. Just because there's not a shit ton of them doesn't mean they aren't out there. Pot being laced with shit is a joke - ya maybe if you buy from some crack head or gangster. Just FYI I own a dispensary and am extremely pro medical marijuania. I don't smoke or ingest while pregnant because I don't have to. But I definitely don't talk shit to people or put them down for it. I'd rather see people use THC then opiates for pain any damn day of the week. Before you knock people for using mmj maybe you should Iook and research harder then listening to hearsay. In my ten years in the business I have never in my life met or heard of a baby having a deformity from THC..... Opiates omg go ask a midwife or nurse about those babied in icu
    I completely agree with Jaxx here. My brother owns dispensary as well and there are many studies on MJ use during pregnancy. Some even recommend the use of it. I don't use it while pregnant but I definitely know for a fact that opiates and alcohol are much worse than THC.
    For the last time, we are discussing recreational use and not medicinal. JFC! And we are not suggesting that anyone should be using opiates without good reason either
    I personally want to see the studies about pot use while pregnant. 
  • @Meggie0420 you've got a good point! Maybe she just didn't think of it that way.

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  • KateMW said:


    Cashingn2 said:

    JaxxM said:

    But there has been studies done on THC. Just because there's not a shit ton of them doesn't mean they aren't out there. Pot being laced with shit is a joke - ya maybe if you buy from some crack head or gangster. Just FYI I own a dispensary and am extremely pro medical marijuania. I don't smoke or ingest while pregnant because I don't have to. But I definitely don't talk shit to people or put them down for it. I'd rather see people use THC then opiates for pain any damn day of the week. Before you knock people for using mmj maybe you should Iook and research harder then listening to hearsay. In my ten years in the business I have never in my life met or heard of a baby having a deformity from THC..... Opiates omg go ask a midwife or nurse about those babied in icu

    I completely agree with Jaxx here. My brother owns dispensary as well and there are many studies on MJ use during pregnancy. Some even recommend the use of it. I don't use it while pregnant but I definitely know for a fact that opiates and alcohol are much worse than THC.
    For the last time, we are discussing recreational use and not medicinal. JFC! And we are not suggesting that anyone should be using opiates without good reason either

    I personally want to see the studies about pot use while pregnant. 

    Google. First link actually recommends it during pregnancy.

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  • Possibly. Not trying to comment on anyone's personal situation, so please don't take me the wrong way. But just google obesity and pregnancy and you will see article after article talking about the risks to mother and child. Pot use is much more controversial and there haven't been ANY conclusive studies that state that marijuana leads to complications for mom or baby.

    Again, I'm not saying it doesn't and I'm certainly not advocating it. But being objective and simply looking at the proven facts... I'd say obesity is potentially much worse.
  • Cashingn2 said:
    But there has been studies done on THC. Just because there's not a shit ton of them doesn't mean they aren't out there. Pot being laced with shit is a joke - ya maybe if you buy from some crack head or gangster. Just FYI I own a dispensary and am extremely pro medical marijuania. I don't smoke or ingest while pregnant because I don't have to. But I definitely don't talk shit to people or put them down for it. I'd rather see people use THC then opiates for pain any damn day of the week. Before you knock people for using mmj maybe you should Iook and research harder then listening to hearsay. In my ten years in the business I have never in my life met or heard of a baby having a deformity from THC..... Opiates omg go ask a midwife or nurse about those babied in icu
    I completely agree with Jaxx here. My brother owns dispensary as well and there are many studies on MJ use during pregnancy. Some even recommend the use of it. I don't use it while pregnant but I definitely know for a fact that opiates and alcohol are much worse than THC.
    For the last time, we are discussing recreational use and not medicinal. JFC! And we are not suggesting that anyone should be using opiates without good reason either
    I personally want to see the studies about pot use while pregnant. 
    Google. First link actually recommends it during pregnancy.
    Actually, if you use google scholar that has peer reviewed journal articles, the first article listed is "

    Marijuana use during pregnancy and decreased length of gestation."


    In the abstract, it stated "Compared to nonuse, an average use of marijuana six or more times per week during pregnancy was associated with a statistically significant reduction of 0.8 weeks in the length of gestation after consideration of the effects of nicotine, alcohol, parity, mother's prepregnancy weight, and the sex of the infant."

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  • ColeRose said:

    This can be taken anyway anyone wants it to be, but I think that anyone on welfare and pregnant should need to take weekly drug tests. Because when their kids come out with issues they just get more money...

    But hell yeah I eat tuna and lunch meat, and drink coffee all in moderation and occasionally.


    You realize they tried this in Florida and it was a complete failure and ended up costing more money than it was worth so yeahhh....

    I was going to post exactly this. I'm in FL and this was a huge failure. So many people jumped on the bandwagon for this and it blew up. Waste of money and time. Also I'm not saying anything else here as I got ragey over my to go from Panera being wrong today. This would send me over the edge :)
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  • Possibly. Not trying to comment on anyone's personal situation, so please don't take me the wrong way. But just google obesity and pregnancy and you will see article after article talking about the risks to mother and child. Pot use is much more controversial and there haven't been ANY conclusive studies that state that marijuana leads to complications for mom or baby. Again, I'm not saying it doesn't and I'm certainly not advocating it. But being objective and simply looking at the proven facts... I'd say obesity is potentially much worse.
    Do you know why you can't find conclusive studies on pot and pregnancy? Because its unethical to conduct them! You can't give a pregnant woman an illegal and possibly extremely harmful substance just so you can see what happens. Pot crosses the placental barrier. Pot causes cognitive problems in teenagers and adults. Ethically, that can't be studied in pregnancy.
    But but but it's on Google. So it must be true.
  • KateMW said:



    KateMW said:


    Cashingn2 said:

    JaxxM said:

    But there has been studies done on THC. Just because there's not a shit ton of them doesn't mean they aren't out there. Pot being laced with shit is a joke - ya maybe if you buy from some crack head or gangster. Just FYI I own a dispensary and am extremely pro medical marijuania. I don't smoke or ingest while pregnant because I don't have to. But I definitely don't talk shit to people or put them down for it. I'd rather see people use THC then opiates for pain any damn day of the week. Before you knock people for using mmj maybe you should Iook and research harder then listening to hearsay. In my ten years in the business I have never in my life met or heard of a baby having a deformity from THC..... Opiates omg go ask a midwife or nurse about those babied in icu

    I completely agree with Jaxx here. My brother owns dispensary as well and there are many studies on MJ use during pregnancy. Some even recommend the use of it. I don't use it while pregnant but I definitely know for a fact that opiates and alcohol are much worse than THC.
    For the last time, we are discussing recreational use and not medicinal. JFC! And we are not suggesting that anyone should be using opiates without good reason either

    I personally want to see the studies about pot use while pregnant. 
    Google. First link actually recommends it during pregnancy.

    I just googled smoking pot while pregnant and none of the "studies" say it's safe much less recommend it. Not to mention, they're not studies, they're websites.


    Here's the actual study I'm talking about:
    https://www.druglibrary.org/SCHAFFER/hemp/medical/can-babies.htm

    And here's other sites that talk about this study
    https://www.plantteacher.com/use-of-marijuana-during-pregnancy/

    https://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1375.html

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  • KateMW said:



    Shadow512 said:

    Possibly. Not trying to comment on anyone's personal situation, so please don't take me the wrong way. But just google obesity and pregnancy and you will see article after article talking about the risks to mother and child. Pot use is much more controversial and there haven't been ANY conclusive studies that state that marijuana leads to complications for mom or baby.

    Again, I'm not saying it doesn't and I'm certainly not advocating it. But being objective and simply looking at the proven facts... I'd say obesity is potentially much worse.

    Do you know why you can't find conclusive studies on pot and pregnancy?
    Because its unethical to conduct them!
    You can't give a pregnant woman an illegal and possibly extremely harmful substance just so you can see what happens.
    Pot crosses the placental barrier. Pot causes cognitive problems in teenagers and adults. Ethically, that can't be studied in pregnancy.

    But but but it's on Google. So it must be true.

    It is?
    Well shit, everyone forget everything I just said.
  • KateMW said:



    Shadow512 said:

    Possibly. Not trying to comment on anyone's personal situation, so please don't take me the wrong way. But just google obesity and pregnancy and you will see article after article talking about the risks to mother and child. Pot use is much more controversial and there haven't been ANY conclusive studies that state that marijuana leads to complications for mom or baby.

    Again, I'm not saying it doesn't and I'm certainly not advocating it. But being objective and simply looking at the proven facts... I'd say obesity is potentially much worse.

    Do you know why you can't find conclusive studies on pot and pregnancy?
    Because its unethical to conduct them!
    You can't give a pregnant woman an illegal and possibly extremely harmful substance just so you can see what happens.
    Pot crosses the placental barrier. Pot causes cognitive problems in teenagers and adults. Ethically, that can't be studied in pregnancy.

    But but but it's on Google. So it must be true.
    It is?
    Well shit, everyone forget everything I just said.


    Studies have been done on pregnant woman. Just read the study I posted.

    https://www.druglibrary.org/SCHAFFER/hemp/medical/can-babies.htm

    This doctor is from Iowa but she went to Jamaica to do the actual study.

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  • Do you know why you can't find conclusive studies on pot and pregnancy?
    Because its unethical to conduct them!
    You can't give a pregnant woman an illegal and possibly extremely harmful substance just so you can see what happens.
    Pot crosses the placental barrier. Pot causes cognitive problems in teenagers and adults. Ethically, that can't be studied in pregnancy.

    Yeah, maybe true. But somehow I seem to find plenty of literature out there on the negative effects of cocaine use during pregnancy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_cocaine_exposure) and that too is an illegal substance. Hmmmm...

    In any case, I'm just going with proven facts. Fact? Obesity is VERY bad for your unborn baby. Marijuana? No one really knows. Just pointing out how ridiculous it is for people to get all crazy about a little pot when logically there are much worse things you can do while pregnant. Any so, so many of us do...
  • Shadow512 said:



    Do you know why you can't find conclusive studies on pot and pregnancy?
    Because its unethical to conduct them!
    You can't give a pregnant woman an illegal and possibly extremely harmful substance just so you can see what happens.
    Pot crosses the placental barrier. Pot causes cognitive problems in teenagers and adults. Ethically, that can't be studied in pregnancy.

    Yeah, maybe true. But somehow I seem to find plenty of literature out there on the negative effects of cocaine use during pregnancy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_cocaine_exposure) and that too is an illegal substance. Hmmmm...

    In any case, I'm just going with proven facts. Fact? Obesity is VERY bad for your unborn baby. Marijuana? No one really knows. Just pointing out how ridiculous it is for people to get all crazy about a little pot when logically there are much worse things you can do while pregnant. Any so, so many of us do...
    Whatever.
    Enjoy smoking a bowl in your size 2 skinny jeans.
    Meanwhile, I'm gonna keep my fat ass in bed and eat ice cream.
  • Cashingn2 said:

    You know what sources I can't use when doing scientific research for school? YouTube and Google. Ill pull out those journals

    Do you all need it on paper to believe it? This is an actual study...

    https://www.druglibrary.org/SCHAFFER/hemp/medical/can-babies.htm

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  • I don't know how many times i said earlier that there were worse things than pot during pregnancy...  *Eye roll*

     

  • Well if it came down to me smoking a joint or being fat, well I guess I'm just going to have to be fat. Sorry drugs, ciggs and alcohol (except red wine occasionally) Are on the list of just do not do it while pregnant.

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  • Why can i find all this info on neonatal babies.... fetal alcohol syndrome babies... babies addicted to crack, meth etc deformities.. etc.... but i cant find jack shit on mothers who smoked weed while pregnant? You're telling me theres all these women who smoke crack or do herion... but not as many who smoke weed? YA effing right..... Someone anyone... please... find me a medical document that a baby has a deformity or anything wrong with them from the mother smoking weed. 

    To all you "saints" who dont even take tylenol. Good for you. Want a super-mom trophy? LOL
    First, yes I'd love a fucking trophy. Second, I don't even know what you're arguing. Smoking pot is better than smoking crack. No one here doesn't agree with that. But still there has been not enough research to decide if it's safe or not. Just like lots of medications out there.

    Sooz could not find a trophy but I think this will do ;)

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  • Well, pot might not kill brain cells, but you couldn't prove it to me based on whats been posted in this thread. The pot study from Jamaica written almost 20 years ago? Not sure I'd like up based on those 20 kids.
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