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What would WM do?

I have a 2 year old and a 5 year old about to start kinder.  I've been offered an oppy to move up at work, but it comes with a trade off. I currently only work 4 days per week. I love having a weekday off for outings with the kids, errands, etc. If I take the new role, I get a $8K raise and a better title, but I'd have to be in the office 5 days. What would you do?

Re: What would WM do?

  • How much does $8k a year affect your standard of living?  And if you don't take it, does it mean that future ability to "move up" would be taken off the table? For me, the financial aspect would not be worth the trade off.  I would be more concerned about what passing up the promotion would mean for future opportunities. 
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  • I would need a TON more information!  Are you working 4 days FT right now or is it 4 8 hours days?  Basically are you going to work more hours, or are you just spreading your current hours over 5 days?  If there is an hour increase, does the increase in pay match up with the increase in hours?

    I'm not one to look for more hours to work, but if my family needed the money, I would consider it.  But again, it would depend on if it was cost effective to take the "raise" (if I'm spending my raise to pay for childcare, I wouldn't be as inclined to take it).

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  • The $8K would help me pay of my student loans more quickly.  We don't *need* the money, but of course it would be nice. I don't think turning it down would mommy track me; I've built a strong reputation. It's likely a similar position would be available in the next couple of years.
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    I would need a TON more information!  Are you working 4 days FT right now or is it 4 8 hours days?  Basically are you going to work more hours, or are you just spreading your current hours over 5 days?  If there is an hour increase, does the increase in pay match up with the increase in hours?

    I'm not one to look for more hours to work, but if my family needed the money, I would consider it.  But again, it would depend on if it was cost effective to take the "raise" (if I'm spending my raise to pay for childcare, I wouldn't be as inclined to take it).

    I'm only working 8 hour days currently; I'd be working more hours and harder while I'm at work. I'd be spending the same on childcare.

  • imageIBackBevo:
    How much does $8k a year affect your standard of living?  And if you don't take it, does it mean that future ability to "move up" would be taken off the table? For me, the financial aspect would not be worth the trade off.  I would be more concerned about what passing up the promotion would mean for future opportunities. 

    This exactly, is a promotion that if you don't take you will miss out on future ones?And does your family need the extra $8,000? I'm all about working my way upwards...so if it meant a jump in the path to higher position, I'd do it. But that is just me personally. I already work 40 hours/5 days a week so that is probably why I wouldn't even blink at it.  

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  • imageHilarityEnsued:
    I don't know enough about your situation, but $8,000 for an additional 52 (plus/minus) days of work per year (approx $150/day BEFORE taxes) seems like bullsh!t consolation money for more work.

    I like the way you think. :)  When you put it that way, it seems like a no brainer.

  • For 8k I probably wouldn't do it, unless it was an opportunity that was unlikely to come around again AND unless the 8k was a gateway to a better career path and additional money.
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  • imageBella427:
    The $8K would help me pay of my student loans more quickly.  We don't *need* the money, but of course it would be nice. I don't think turning it down would mommy track me; I've built a strong reputation. It's likely a similar position would be available in the next couple of years.

    Based on what you are saying here that future opportunities would not be withheld, the trade off would not be worth it for me.  As above poster pointed out, this is only about $150 per day before taxes.  I don't know what your tax rate is, but I'm guessing you will probably only see about $100 or so.  It would not be worth it to me to give up that time with my kids and the time to run errands, etc.  And it sounds like another opportunity may come down the pipe when your kids are older. 

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  • Are you planning on working the 4 days indefinitely?  I work 4 days now and am undecided if I will ever go back to 5.

    If you love that day and don't see giving it up any time soon, then why bother?

    If you are fairly certain you will eventually go back to 5 days a week anyways why not take the extra cash and a promotion and be able to get more cash and more promotions faster? 

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  • Yeah, I tried to negotiate a telecommuting day once per week but it was a no go.  I've been doing 4 days per week for 5 years and I love it. 
  • That wouldn't be worth it for me.  But I'm not dying to move up at work, either, so YMMV.
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  • If it were me, I would not do it. Everyone's perceptions and values of money differ, and this is just my opinion, but $8k a year more for 20% more work hours almost seems like a slap in the face. To me, I would have thought that that would have just been the promotional pay increase, and then another adjustment of 20% more pay to account for the extra day worked.

    Totally not worth it for me.

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  • I can only tell you that I declined to aggressively pursue a promotion, deferring it to the next year.  The next year they changed the promotion process and it has now been off the table for two years.

    You cannot predict what will happen in the future.  If you remain in your current role are you happy?

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  • I'd be happy in my current role for at least a couple more years.  I feel like DD starting kinder will be a whole new ballgame and I'm happy doing the status quo at work while we see what it's like to have school aged kids and adjust accordingly. 
  • Depends on how much you make now.  If you make 20k, then 8k is a big deal, but if you make 200k, 8k is not much.

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  • It wouldn't be worth it to me. 

    I feel very stalled right now work wise AND money wise (state university.  No raises in 5 years).  I work 5 days but one is from home, i get a LOT of time off, and I set my hours to miss rush hour.

    I've looked for other jobs recently, but the idea of losing the time that I do get w/ DS just isn't worth it to me - at least right now.  Maybe in a few years, but for now - being with him as much as I can is just too important.

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  • imageChicagoWeded2007:
    Depends on how much you make now.  If you make 20k, then 8k is a big deal, but if you make 200k, 8k is not much.

     

    this. Personally, $8,000 would not impact my life whatsoever and I would not do it. I would also LOVE to work a 4 day work week and would take much more than an $8000 pay cut to do so but it isn't possible in my job.  Good luck!

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    I wouldn't.  $8000 to have to work another day a week and do more work is not worth it to me, especially if you don't need the money.  If you hope to be promoted in the future, then I wonder if it might look bad if you didn't take it.  



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  • If you want the job, I would figure out what one extra day of work is worth and ask for that amount plus a small amount more for the increase in responsibilities.  I work 4 days a week now and could never give it up, but my husband works Tuesday through Saturday so Monday is our day together.  Unless you are making under $32,000, an $8,000 "raise" is really a pay cut (provided the hours are the same).  
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  • imageBella427:
    Yeah, I tried to negotiate a telecommuting day once per week but it was a no go.  I've been doing 4 days per week for 5 years and I love it. 

    When did you last try to negotiate the WFH day? If it wasn't recent, I'd try again. I don't think I'd do it for 8K, but I would try to negotiate more $ before I turned it down. 

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    I would stay where I was. If your current salary is working for you, I'd stay put. An extra day off EACH week is a gem, especially when one is managing all that working moms have to manage.

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  • imageEastCoastBride:

    It wouldn't be worth it to me. 

    I feel very stalled right now work wise AND money wise (state university.  No raises in 5 years).  I work 5 days but one is from home, i get a LOT of time off, and I set my hours to miss rush hour.

    I've looked for other jobs recently, but the idea of losing the time that I do get w/ DS just isn't worth it to me - at least right now.  Maybe in a few years, but for now - being with him as much as I can is just too important.

    Our situations are pretty identical; I even work for a university. :)  Thanks for all the advice!

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