You Owe

Sarah52Beth · May 2013

argonne:
w+c3:
argonne:
beckynsean11:
plutoisaplanet:
w+c3:

krptcmschfmkr128:
I don't like beer.

Me either. I also find it to be the least classy thing for a woman to drink.

I don't understand this. What exactly makes drinking beer classless? And how does it apply only to women?

I'm not quite sure I get it either. I'm not going around doing keg stands.

Yeah, me either. I usually go for the beer bong...

Seriously, though, I would like to know what's so unclassy about a woman drinking a beer.

You know what I think is unclassy? When other people judge the class of a person by what they're drinking.

It's nothing more than a first impression. It's not like after I get to know someone that I can't change my mind.

For the record- my best friend drinks beer. I found that out about a year and a half ago. We're still friends. I didn't ditch her or anything. It's not like I find it vile.

Oh, that's good to know you wouldn't ditch your best friend because she drinks beer.

Is this the same thing as "I'm not racist, I have black friends", but with beer?

Yes! That's kinda how it came across to me too. This whole beer judgement is weird to me.

beckynsean11 · May 2013

bbg676:
w+c3:
Rocknroll64:
w+c3:
MeatandBandP:
plutoisaplanet:
w+c3:
krptcmschfmkr128:
I don't like beer.
 Me either. I also find it to be the least classy thing for a woman to drink.

I don't understand this. What exactly makes drinking beer classless? And how does it apply only to women?
Yea I'm interested to see a response on this also. Does it matter what type of beer they are drinking in your opinion? If its a bottle vs a can does your opinion change? 

I do think a can is a little worse. I think it just honestly comes down to me associating beer cans and (lower end beer mostly) with being a redneck and trashy.
I do think I would think a little differently if say a woman was drinking a glass of beer at a nice brewery or something? I guess I don't really know.
This is so bizarre.  So what about coolers? They're technically a girly drink but minus the label they look similar to beer cans/bottles.   Does it just matter if you get a glass with it?
What do you drink at a bbq or camping? Or do you just always grab a glass. What if you poured the beer into a martini glass? would that be classy? 
I drink either a rum and coke or a Jamaican Me Happy (a fruity glass bottled drink).
I guess maybe I should just say I don't find it attractive for a woman. I have never met a well put together woman with a beer in her hand (not that I'm sure they don't exist). Therefore I don't associate the two. Plain and simple. I think everything you do puts off a message to the rest of the world and each person interprets that differently. 

I don't know how to sideeye this from mobile. I know many who put together, extremely successful women who drink beer.

Firefly9 · May 2013

lmills730:
beckynsean11:
krptcmschfmkr128:
I don't like beer.
That's ok, leaves more beer for me!

Beer is delicious. I'm lucky I live south of Beer City USA and just north of the city that came in second. Yummy beer surrounds me. Happiness.

argonne · May 2013

CityBee:
argonne:
w+c3:

krptcmschfmkr128:
I don't like beer.

Me either. I also find it to be the least classy thing for a woman to drink.

Oh...

Don't come to Ft. Collins, then. You will not be able to tolerate all of our unclassiness.

Just lurking around here, but wanted to give a big to the Fort Collins beer scene. May as well go ahead and put the stamp of unclassiness on all of Colorado while we're at it.

Colorado rocks! Anyone who doesn't think so is classless.

Rocknroll64 · May 2013

w+c3:
Rocknroll64:
w+c3:
MeatandBandP:
plutoisaplanet:
w+c3:
krptcmschfmkr128:
I don't like beer.
Me either. I also find it to be the least classy thing for a woman to drink.
I don't understand this. What exactly makes drinking beer classless? And how does it apply only to women?
Yea I'm interested to see a response on this also. Does it matter what type of beer they are drinking in your opinion? If its a bottle vs a can does your opinion change?

I do think a can is a little worse. I think it just honestly comes down to me associating beer cans and (lower end beer mostly) with being a redneck and trashy.
I do think I would think a little differently if say a woman was drinking a glass of beer at a nice brewery or something? I guess I don't really know.
This is so bizarre. So what about coolers? They're technically a girly drink but minus the label they look similar to beer cans/bottles. Does it just matter if you get a glass with it?
What do you drink at a bbq or camping? Or do you just always grab a glass. What if you poured the beer into a martini glass? would that be classy?
I drink either a rum and coke or a Jamaican Me Happy (a fruity glass bottled drink).
I guess maybe I should just say I don't find it attractive for a woman. I have never met a well put together woman with a beer in her hand (not that I'm sure they don't exist). Therefore I don't associate the two. Plain and simple. I think everything you do puts off a message to the rest of the world and each person interprets that differently.

LOL what? I'm afraid to ask what you think a well put together woman is.

beckynsean11 · May 2013

thetruthhurtsyo:
MeatandBandP:
w+c3:

I drink either a rum and coke or a Jamaican Me Happy (a fruity glass bottled drink).
I guess maybe I should just say I don't find it attractive for a woman. I have never met a well put together woman with a beer in her hand (not that I'm sure they don't exist). Therefore I don't associate the two. Plain and simple. I think everything you do puts off a message to the rest of the world and each person interprets that differently. 
The message you are putting off into the (bump) world right now isn't a good one.
I am actually LOL at the ridiculousness of judging a woman for drinking beer. I bet you think Boones Farm is the klassy wine in the aisle at Walmart, right? 

Eff Boones Farm. MD 20/20 4 lyfe!

[Deleted User] · May 2013

GhostMonkey:
harm1781:
5. DH wont let me see Magic Mike. Which is the ENTIRE reason I want to see it. I think its unfair that I trust him enough to actually go see actual strippers and he doesn't want me to see a movie. I hate when ppl tell me I can't do something...
You aren't missing anything. It's bad.

Agreed. I was bored for more than half of the movie.

lmills730 · May 2013

MrsMcB926:
lmills730:
beckynsean11:
krptcmschfmkr128:
I don't like beer.
That's ok, leaves more beer for me!
Beer is delicious. I'm lucky I live south of Beer City USA and just north of the city that came in second. Yummy beer surrounds me. Happiness.

Love it! DH and I love trying new beers from all over the country and world.

argonne · May 2013

beckynsean11:
thetruthhurtsyo:
MeatandBandP:
w+c3:

I drink either a rum and coke or a Jamaican Me Happy (a fruity glass bottled drink).

I guess maybe I should just say I don't find it attractive for a woman. I have never met a well put together woman with a beer in her hand (not that I'm sure they don't exist). Therefore I don't associate the two. Plain and simple. I think everything you do puts off a message to the rest of the world and each person interprets that differently.

The message you are putting off into the (bump) world right now isn't a good one.

I am actually LOL at the ridiculousness of judging a woman for drinking beer. I bet you think Boones Farm is the klassy wine in the aisle at Walmart, right?

Eff Boones Farm. MD 20/20 4 lyfe!

OMG! I nearly forgot about MD20/20... Ick!

greengirl0909 · May 2013

Sarah52Beth:
bbg676:
Sarah52Beth:
thetruthhurtsyo:
Sarah52Beth:
Twinkie0612:
Not exactly an opinion, but...
I don't care if my husband goes to a strip club. I've been to clubs a few times and had a good time (as long as I wasn't buying drinks, 'cause they are way over priced).
If my husband and his friends want to go look at stripper boobs and drink overpriced beer, more power to them. I trust my husband and I have seen the strippers around here, there nothing spectacular.
I also feel this way about porn. I don't care if my husband watches porn. I am not a huge porn fan (more of an occasional consumer), but I don't find it much different than me reading smutty romance books. Both have lead to some hot bedroom sessions at my house.
I know a few women who are like this and I really don't understand. For me, being against this isn't a self-esteem/insecure thing. I feel like it lets in temptation. Sort of like a gate-way drug to cheating.
You do realize that a strip club isn't the only place your husband could be "tempted", right? Shiiit, maybe I should keep my husband away from South Beach. Lord knows you see boobs and @ss galore in those parts.
Oh yes, I am not naive to the fact that there are temptations everywhere. We go to the beach to enjoy the weather, get in the ocean. get a tan, and yes there will be men and women in their bathing suits, but we don't go to the beach to see people in bathing suits.
A strip club is geared toward one thing and that is to entertain people with other people's bodies.
As is the 'Victoria Secret Fashion Show', the 'Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition', and a large chunk of R rated movies. Do you pearl-clutch those, as well?
Yes, how did you guess?? We stay at home and stare at each other and don't dare enter the outside world unless absolutely possible.
On a serious note, I don't like the implication that because my H and I don't indulge in strip clubs that we are uptight.

I agree. I wouldn't consider myself uptight, the strip clubs don't do anything for me.

Rocknroll64 · May 2013

thetruthhurtsyo:
MeatandBandP:
w+c3:

I drink either a rum and coke or a Jamaican Me Happy (a fruity glass bottled drink).
I guess maybe I should just say I don't find it attractive for a woman. I have never met a well put together woman with a beer in her hand (not that I'm sure they don't exist). Therefore I don't associate the two. Plain and simple. I think everything you do puts off a message to the rest of the world and each person interprets that differently.
The message you are putting off into the (bump) world right now isn't a good one.
I am actually LOL at the ridiculousness of judging a woman for drinking beer. I bet you think Boones Farm is the klassy wine in the aisle at Walmart, right?

I'm sorry but I'm putting you in the same boat as her. You guys can sip on martinis and laugh about all of us "little" people from your vacation home.

Oh you don't remember judging someone for not being able to afford eating out every week.

Applepear14 · May 2013

w+c3:
Rocknroll64:
w+c3:
MeatandBandP:
plutoisaplanet:
w+c3:
krptcmschfmkr128:
I don't like beer.
 Me either. I also find it to be the least classy thing for a woman to drink.

I don't understand this. What exactly makes drinking beer classless? And how does it apply only to women?
Yea I'm interested to see a response on this also. Does it matter what type of beer they are drinking in your opinion? If its a bottle vs a can does your opinion change? 

I do think a can is a little worse. I think it just honestly comes down to me associating beer cans and (lower end beer mostly) with being a redneck and trashy.
I do think I would think a little differently if say a woman was drinking a glass of beer at a nice brewery or something? I guess I don't really know.
This is so bizarre.  So what about coolers? They're technically a girly drink but minus the label they look similar to beer cans/bottles.   Does it just matter if you get a glass with it?
What do you drink at a bbq or camping? Or do you just always grab a glass. What if you poured the beer into a martini glass? would that be classy? 
I drink either a rum and coke or a Jamaican Me Happy (a fruity glass bottled drink).
I guess maybe I should just say I don't find it attractive for a woman. I have never met a well put together woman with a beer in her hand (not that I'm sure they don't exist). Therefore I don't associate the two. Plain and simple. I think everything you do puts off a message to the rest of the world and each person interprets that differently. 

You must live in a really strange place. I live in NYC and all of my female friends are successful, put together women. And they all drink beer. Sometimes even from a can.

I would have put quotes around your phrase put together women if I wasn't on mobile.

beckynsean11 · May 2013

lmills730:
MrsMcB926:
lmills730:
beckynsean11:
krptcmschfmkr128:
I don't like beer.
That's ok, leaves more beer for me!  
Beer is delicious. I'm lucky I live south of Beer City USA and just north of the city that came in second.  Yummy beer surrounds me.  Happiness.
Love it! DH and I love trying new beers from all over the country and world.

We've been trying to hit as many of the microbreweries in NJ as possible. There are so many though! It's so much fun.

ksuRN09 · May 2013

Ladyofshallott86:
I hate Winnie the Pooh themed baby stuff, especially nurseries. Barf. A friend of mine is doing this as her nursery theme and keeps posting pics in FB and I literally cringe at every picture.

I agree. I feel like that's blasphemous somehow. I mean who doesn't like Winnie the Pooh? But at least I'm not the only one! Lol!

beckynsean11 · May 2013

argonne:
beckynsean11:
thetruthhurtsyo:
MeatandBandP:
w+c3:

I drink either a rum and coke or a Jamaican Me Happy (a fruity glass bottled drink).

I guess maybe I should just say I don't find it attractive for a woman. I have never met a well put together woman with a beer in her hand (not that I'm sure they don't exist). Therefore I don't associate the two. Plain and simple. I think everything you do puts off a message to the rest of the world and each person interprets that differently. 

The message you are putting off into the (bump) world right now isn't a good one.

I am actually LOL at the ridiculousness of judging a woman for drinking beer. I bet you think Boones Farm is the klassy wine in the aisle at Walmart, right? 

Eff Boones Farm. MD 20/20 4 lyfe!

OMG!  I nearly forgot about MD20/20...

Strawberry kiwi bishes!

ksuRN09 · May 2013

theleblancs:
GhostMonkey:
harm1781:
5. DH wont let me see Magic Mike. Which is the ENTIRE reason I want to see it. I think its unfair that I trust him enough to actually go see actual strippers and he doesn't want me to see a movie. I hate when ppl tell me I can't do something...
You aren't missing anything. It's bad.
Agreed. I was bored for more than half of the movie.

It's so terrible, it's funny. I went with my co-workers to see it in theaters and all we did was laugh at the ridiculousness the entire time.

annksaw · May 2013

argonne:
beckynsean11:
plutoisaplanet:
w+c3:

krptcmschfmkr128:
I don't like beer.

Me either. I also find it to be the least classy thing for a woman to drink.

I don't understand this. What exactly makes drinking beer classless? And how does it apply only to women?

I'm not quite sure I get it either. I'm not going around doing keg stands.

Yeah, me either. I usually go for the beer bong...

Seriously, though, I would like to know what's so unclassy about a woman drinking a beer.

You know what I think is unclassy? When other people judge the class of a person by what they're drinking.

Yes

My SO was the DJ at a strip club for a long, long time. I know he was looking at T&A, but really...he has a joke that "strippers smell like glitter and shame." So I was not worried, at all.

Also, I'm GLAD he watches porn. I would not be able to handle all the sexy time that man needs/wants.

lmills730 · May 2013

beckynsean11:
lmills730:
MrsMcB926:
lmills730:
beckynsean11:
krptcmschfmkr128:
I don't like beer.
That's ok, leaves more beer for me!
Beer is delicious. I'm lucky I live south of Beer City USA and just north of the city that came in second. Yummy beer surrounds me. Happiness.
Love it! DH and I love trying new beers from all over the country and world.
We've been trying to hit as many of the microbreweries in NJ as possible. There are so many though! It's so much fun.

SO much fun, love microbreweries!

brneyemom2 · May 2013

Here's my UO:

We don't go to strip clubs, or watch The fashion show, or view the SI swimsuit magazine. We also don't watch rated R movies that are high in sexual content. It has nothing to do with trust between my husband and I. It does however have everything to do with raising two young boys in a world full of sexually graphic content. not to say that I would a. let my children into a strip club or b. watch a rated R movie in front of our children. But I truly believe in practicing watch you preach and since we are teaching our children to remain chaste till marriage and that sexual content is between a husband and wife then I want them to know their parents believe in what they stand for. Does this make me uptight? Because June Cleaver is *totes*my role model!

wheeee780 · May 2013

I dislike the word "classy," especially when the person using it actually means elegant or sophisticated or graceful.

And I loathe the word "classy" when someone uses it to try to mask their biases. If what you mean is you think something is associated with "being redneck and trashy," then just say that. Don't put lipstick on a pig.

brneyemom2 · May 2013

MeatandBandP:
brneyemom2:
Here's my UO:
We don't go to strip clubs, or watch The fashion show, or view the SI swimsuit magazine. We also don't watch rated R movies that are high in sexual content. It has nothing to do with trust between my husband and I. It does however have everything to do with raising two young boys in a world full of sexually graphic content. not to say that I would a. let my children into a strip club or b. watch a rated R movie in front of our children. But I truly believe in practicing watch you preach and since we are teaching our children to remain chaste till marriage and that sexual content is between a husband and wife then I want them to know their parents believe in what they stand for. Does this make me uptight? Because June Cleaver is *totes*my role model!
My UO is that I don't think it is your choice whether your child remains celibate until they are married.

You are absolutely right. It's not MY choice, it's a choice they will have to make for themselves. I can only teach him, as we all do, what their father and I believe in and the value that we believe it holds. It is by no means for everyone but it is our choice to raise our children by leading them with the values we believe to be important.

Applepear14 · May 2013

Sarah52Beth:
bbg676:
Sarah52Beth:
thetruthhurtsyo:
Sarah52Beth:
Twinkie0612:
Not exactly an opinion, but...
I don't care if my husband goes to a strip club.  I've been to clubs a few times and had a good time (as long as I wasn't buying drinks, 'cause they are way over priced).  
If my husband and his friends want to go look at stripper boobs and drink overpriced beer, more power to them.  I trust my husband and I have seen the strippers around here, there nothing spectacular.
I also feel this way about porn.  I don't care if my husband watches porn.  I am not a huge porn fan (more of an occasional consumer), but I don't find it much different than me reading smutty romance books.  Both have lead to some hot bedroom sessions at my house. 
I know a few women who are like this and I really don't understand.  For me, being against this isn't a self-esteem/insecure thing.  I feel like it lets in temptation.  Sort of like a gate-way drug to cheating.   
You do realize that a strip club isn't the only place your husband could be "tempted", right? Shiiit, maybe I should keep my husband away from South Beach. Lord knows you see boobs and @ss galore in those parts.
Oh yes, I am not naive to the fact that there are temptations everywhere.  We go to the beach to enjoy the weather, get in the ocean. get a tan, and yes there will be men and women in their bathing suits, but we don't go to the beach to see people in bathing suits.  
A strip club is geared toward one thing and that is to entertain people with other people's bodies.   
As is the 'Victoria Secret Fashion Show', the 'Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition', and a large chunk of R rated movies.  Do you pearl-clutch those, as well?
Yes, how did you guess??  We stay at home and stare at each other and don't dare enter the outside world unless absolutely possible.
On a serious note, I don't like the implication that because my H and I don't indulge in strip clubs that we are uptight.   

I completely agree with this! I get that reaction from people sometimes and it really annoys me. DH and I were pretty wild in our younger days, both before and after we met. We are far from uptight or conservative. But people sometimes act like just because we find the principle of going to strip clubs disrespectful to each other that we are uptight. Or that I have self esteem issues or don't trust him. None of those are true. People can make whatever decision they want about that topic in their relationship, but just because ours doesn't match theirs doesn't make us uptight!

Firefly9 · May 2013

MeatandBandP:
brneyemom2:
Here's my UO:
We don't go to strip clubs, or watch The fashion show, or view the SI swimsuit magazine. We also don't watch rated R movies that are high in sexual content. It has nothing to do with trust between my husband and I. It does however have everything to do with raising two young boys in a world full of sexually graphic content. not to say that I would a. let my children into a strip club or b. watch a rated R movie in front of our children. But I truly believe in practicing watch you preach and since we are teaching our children to remain chaste till marriage and that sexual content is between a husband and wife then I want them to know their parents believe in what they stand for. Does this make me uptight? Because June Cleaver is *totes*my role model!
My UO is that I don't think it is your choice whether your child remains celibate until they are married.

Agreed. Especially now--this isn't the 50's. All you can do is teach your kids responsibility and hope they make the right choices. Would I prefer he wait until he's an adult and in a committed relationship and able to deal with any and all possible consequences ? Sure. But to push celibacy on him would be hypocritical. And I think making something so forbidden makes it more enticing.

Either way, I hope you will teach them sex ed, because it's a very good possibility they WON'T wait.

Rocknroll64 · May 2013

brneyemom2:
MeatandBandP:
brneyemom2:
Here's my UO:
We don't go to strip clubs, or watch The fashion show, or view the SI swimsuit magazine. We also don't watch rated R movies that are high in sexual content. It has nothing to do with trust between my husband and I. It does however have everything to do with raising two young boys in a world full of sexually graphic content. not to say that I would a. let my children into a strip club or b. watch a rated R movie in front of our children. But I truly believe in practicing watch you preach and since we are teaching our children to remain chaste till marriage and that sexual content is between a husband and wife then I want them to know their parents believe in what they stand for. Does this make me uptight? Because June Cleaver is *totes*my role model!
My UO is that I don't think it is your choice whether your child remains celibate until they are married.

You are absolutely right. It's not MY choice, it's a choice they will have to make for themselves. I can only teach him, as we all do, what their father and I believe in and the value that we believe it holds. It is by no means for everyone but it is our choice to raise our children by leading them with the values we believe to be important.

I think everyone has different values they want to instill into their children and that's okay, but I do believe that every parent should teach their child about safe sex. Even though you want them to hold out until marriage, the likelihood is that they won't.

I would never want my daughter to be too ashamed to ask me to get birth control for her.

BankerBSN · May 2013

brneyemom2 · May 2013

MrsMcB926:
MeatandBandP:
brneyemom2:
Here's my UO:
We don't go to strip clubs, or watch The fashion show, or view the SI swimsuit magazine. We also don't watch rated R movies that are high in sexual content. It has nothing to do with trust between my husband and I. It does however have everything to do with raising two young boys in a world full of sexually graphic content. not to say that I would a. let my children into a strip club or b. watch a rated R movie in front of our children. But I truly believe in practicing watch you preach and since we are teaching our children to remain chaste till marriage and that sexual content is between a husband and wife then I want them to know their parents believe in what they stand for. Does this make me uptight? Because June Cleaver is *totes*my role model!
My UO is that I don't think it is your choice whether your child remains celibate until they are married.

Agreed. Especially now--this isn't the 50's. All you can do is teach your kids responsibility and hope they make the right choices. Would I prefer he wait until he's an adult and in a committed relationship and able to deal with any and all possible consequences ? Sure. But to push celibacy on him would be hypocritical. And I think making something so forbidden makes it more enticing.
Either way, I hope you will teach them sex ed, because it's a very good possibility they WON'T wait.

to not teach our children about safe sex practices would be irresponsible. I am we'll aware of the year and culture in which we live. I am also aware that it is more likely they will NOT wait for marriage. Not once did I say I would PUSH my beliefs upon my children, I did however say that I would teach my children what I believe in just as I am sure you will do also. But to each their own.

argonne · May 2013

talon1226:
That's exactly what it sounds like. I have never heard of anyone considering ditching a friend based on their choice of alcoholic beverage before today. For the record, I drink beer and certainly don't judge people who do. I hope my original comment of wanting to learn to drink wine to be more classy wasn't taken the wrong way. I am carrying a beer bottle in half of my wedding pictures ;]

I didn't take your post that way at all. I think it was pretty clear you were joking.

Sarah52Beth · May 2013

bbg676:
greengirl0909:
Sarah52Beth:
bbg676:
Sarah52Beth:
thetruthhurtsyo:
Sarah52Beth:
Twinkie0612:
Not exactly an opinion, but...
I don't care if my husband goes to a strip club. I've been to clubs a few times and had a good time (as long as I wasn't buying drinks, 'cause they are way over priced).
If my husband and his friends want to go look at stripper boobs and drink overpriced beer, more power to them. I trust my husband and I have seen the strippers around here, there nothing spectacular.
I also feel this way about porn. I don't care if my husband watches porn. I am not a huge porn fan (more of an occasional consumer), but I don't find it much different than me reading smutty romance books. Both have lead to some hot bedroom sessions at my house.
I know a few women who are like this and I really don't understand. For me, being against this isn't a self-esteem/insecure thing. I feel like it lets in temptation. Sort of like a gate-way drug to cheating.
You do realize that a strip club isn't the only place your husband could be "tempted", right? Shiiit, maybe I should keep my husband away from South Beach. Lord knows you see boobs and @ss galore in those parts.
Oh yes, I am not naive to the fact that there are temptations everywhere. We go to the beach to enjoy the weather, get in the ocean. get a tan, and yes there will be men and women in their bathing suits, but we don't go to the beach to see people in bathing suits.
A strip club is geared toward one thing and that is to entertain people with other people's bodies.
As is the 'Victoria Secret Fashion Show', the 'Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition', and a large chunk of R rated movies. Do you pearl-clutch those, as well?
Yes, how did you guess?? We stay at home and stare at each other and don't dare enter the outside world unless absolutely possible.
On a serious note, I don't like the implication that because my H and I don't indulge in strip clubs that we are uptight.
I agree. I wouldn't consider myself uptight, the strip clubs don't do anything for me.
I never said you were uptight.
YOU said that strip clubs are "like gateway drugs to cheating" because they are geared toward "entertaining people with their bodies". I was just pointing out that there are plenty of other things more 'socially acceptable' that do the exact same thing and wondered if you also had a problem with them.
ETA: Hint: The commercial where Kate Upton rolls around, eating a Carl's Jr. burger, is not about the actual burger. She's in the throes of ecstasy, like she just had sex, over a burger. She's also 'using her body for entertainment'.
Is that commercial also a gateway drug? Because most men would most likely prefer to imagine Kate Upton than some random chick at a strip club.

Pearl-clutching=uptight.....right? If not, please provide me with your definition.

Yes, I think that strip clubs CAN be a gateway for other things such as cheating. I don't see why a couple would put temptation in their relationship when there is already so much in society.

Society, tv, movies, are saturated with sex. We understand this. That commercial is cheap marketing. Can't avoid it at all times.

Clarinet35 · May 2013

DLpanda08:
Rocknroll64:
Twinkie0612:
Not exactly an opinion, but...
I don't care if my husband goes to a strip club.  I've been to clubs a few times and had a good time (as long as I wasn't buying drinks, 'cause they are way over priced).  
If my husband and his friends want to go look at stripper boobs and drink overpriced beer, more power to them.  I trust my husband and I have seen the strippers around here, there nothing spectacular.
I also feel this way about porn.  I don't care if my husband watches porn.  I am not a huge porn fan (more of an occasional consumer), but I don't find it much different than me reading smutty romance books.  Both have lead to some hot bedroom sessions at my house. 
I totally agree.  
 

Personally, I don't enjoy strippers and I don't really understand the draw. Yes, there are some people in this world with beautiful bodies, but there is so much more to a person than their looks.
I feel that going to watch strippers or porn turns the person being watched (male or female) into an object rather than a person, and that is such a slippery slope. At what point does the line between fantasy and reality blur and cause you to use your spouse as an object as well? For me and DH, we aren't willing to take the chance. A lot of that has to do with our faith, but a large portion of it is just because of who we are as individuals. 
That said, we are all adults here with a variety of backgrounds. I'm not going to judge an adult for making a different choice than me. 

100 percent agree!

ETA: percent sign didn't show up on mobile

BankerBSN · May 2013

thekikimonster:
Banker&BSN:

you're the only one who understands

It is not as classless when you duct tape your beer to your hands. That is clear in the "Class for the Klassy Handbook".

:::waves from her schooner:::

greengirl0909 · May 2013

I guess I have another UO opinion then. I don't think it's awful to be a hypocrite when it comes to raising your kids. Why isn't it okay to change your mind, learn from choices you've made, and try to encourage your kids to make different choices? In fact, I think that's the general idea of parenting- to want better for your kids!

I was raised with pretty strict parents. I didn't go crazy when I went to college. I stepped out of my shell as I felt comfortable. I've lived some wild days, made soem bad choices, but it didn't happen all at once as soon as I got "free." I never felt the need to be crazy wild just because I had a firm upbringing, I tried things as they appealed to me.

Sarah52Beth · May 2013

ozma23:
I think it's silly to say your SO cant go to strip clubs or watch porn based on the 'temptation' factor. How many times has someone been unfaithful from someone at work, or meeting someone at the gym. OR with a random stranger. Will you not let your SO go to work? or anywhere else for that matter? Temptation is everywhere so that's a lame excuse
ETA I also don't care if people do or don't partake in things like strip clubs or porn. that's their own personal choice and why would igaf?

It is their own personal choice. My H and I have made a "personal choice" to not partake in strip clubs or porn.

Strip clubs and porn are not the only things that cause people to be unfaithful. IMO, it CAN lead to it.

Rocknroll64 · May 2013

I must be the least "classy" woman here. I've done Edward forty hands, I drink beer from a can regularly, I don't care if my DH goes to a strip joint or watches porn, and I'm probably not going to teach my kids to wait until marriage to have sex.

lmills730 · May 2013

greengirl0909:
I was raised with pretty strict parents. I didn't go crazy when I went to college. I stepped out of my shell as I felt comfortable. I've lived some wild days, made soem bad choices, but it didn't happen all at once as soon as I got "free." I never felt the need to be crazy wild just because I had a firm upbringing, I tried things as they appealed to me.

I don't think PP's were inferring that all kinds raised in strict households go crazy when they live away from their parents. I was also raised in a strict household, but I wasn't sheltered. I was exposed to different lifestyles and my parents enforced why they do or do not condone something and they talked to us about sex education and underage drinking and all of those things even though they didn't want us to actually do them so that we wouldn't go into some tailspin if we were suddenly thrown into an environment (like college) after never having seen an R rated movie or the like.

lmills730 · May 2013

bump burp.

BankerBSN · May 2013

thekikimonster:
MeatandBandP:
Banker&BSN:

I guess my FFC could be that I have actually done this while in college..

W+C lives in an area where this shiit goes on way past college.

For example:

Every girl's dream wedding, right?

Rocknroll64 · May 2013

krptcmschfmkr128:
Rocknroll64:
I must be the least "classy" woman here. I've done Edward forty hands, I drink beer from a can regularly, I don't care if my DH goes to a strip joint or watches porn, and I'm probably not going to teach my kids to wait until marriage to have sex.

Sans beer, I'm with you. But that's because I don't like it due to taste. Not that it's not classy. I drink wine from a red solo cup. I'm totes klassy.

Wait. There's a different way to drink wine?

AmyC925 · May 2013

DLpanda08:
greengirl0909:
I don't like male strippers. (I don't like female strippers that much either, but I don't have as strong of feelings in that matter) I don't find them sexy, they do nothing to turn me on, and I'd much rather see a guy in a pair of boxers than a speedo. 
Ditto!
Also, I was really bothered by how many women I know went apeshit over the movie Magic Mike. The posts saying "who cares about the plot, I'm going for the eye candy" particularly bothered me. I know for a fact that the friends posting that in FB would be hurt/offended if their husbands made comments like that about a movie about female strippers. If you and your DH are into strippers, that isn't my business, but the double standard on this issue pisses me off.

I saw Thunder from Down Under when they were in town. I brought no dollar bills.

Sarah52Beth · May 2013

greengirl0909:
I guess I have another UO opinion then. I don't think it's awful to be a hypocrite when it comes to raising your kids. Why isn't it okay to change your mind, learn from choices you've made, and try to encourage your kids to make different choices? In fact, I think that's the general idea of parenting- to want better for your kids!
I was raised with pretty strict parents. I didn't go crazy when I went to college. I stepped out of my shell as I felt comfortable. I've lived some wild days, made soem bad choices, but it didn't happen all at once as soon as I got "free." I never felt the need to be crazy wild just because I had a firm upbringing, I tried things as they appealed to me.

100% Agree! Well said!

Rocknroll64 · May 2013

GhostMonkey:
Rocknroll64:
I must be the least "classy" woman here. I've done Edward forty hands, I drink beer from a can regularly, I don't care if my DH goes to a strip joint or watches porn, and I'm probably not going to teach my kids to wait until marriage to have sex.

I don't know, I think we should have an old fashioned whore-off to determine this.

I'm in.

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