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Seriously?!?! WTF is wrong with Christmas?
There is a woman in my office who is Jewish that (said very nasty) she does not want her 4 year old to ever know anything about Christmas.
Seriously?!?! I am not saying celebrate it, or observe it.... I respect all religions and their holidays, etc. But, to shelter your child from it like it is something awful, is weird, mean and just ridiculous.
Poor kid, what is she going to do, keep her kid locked up from November-January to prevent her from ever finding out about the "C" word?
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Re: Seriously?!?! WTF is wrong with Christmas?
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Tell her good luck on that one.
It's crazy to think you can keep your child from learning about Christmas. The kid will eventually get curious enough to say, "Hey, what the hell is Christmas?"
And I wouldn't care if my child knew about atheism. It's a personal choice, which is why we didn't get our DS baptized.
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I actually know a lot about Hanukkah and a bit about Kwanza. I don't celebrate either, but I'm not going to shelter my DS from learning about them.
Yep and a lot of christians refuse to acknowledge atheists.
I see both levels of crazy, what is your point? I think all the OP is saying is how on earth do you think you're going to muffle the obscene giant waving snowmen and santa clauses?
Perhaps I am just naive about things because I did grow up learning about others religions... including Judaism (for that one poster who asked).
I also think it is wrong for Christians who would intentionally bar their child from learning about other holidays and religions.
You dont have to educate your children on everything, BUT, trying to intentional bar it from their life is another thing and will only back fire b/c children are curious in whats "forbidden".
What lanie said.
I don't know anything about Hanukah really (and I might have even spelled it wrong) but I wouldn't pretend it didn't exist or try to hide my child from the Jews. Honestly, I don't know that I've ever even met one, as I live in the land of a Baptist/Methodist/otherwise Protestant church on every corner.
Also, barring Christmas would include never drinking Coca-Cola, or turning on the TV, or even wiping your ass (it's on our toliet paper packaging)
My ONLY point is... it's freaking IMPOSSIBLE!
i didnt read the other responses but this made me laugh
good luck trying to shelter your child from the biggest holiday in retail stores nation wide!
i am catholic and celebrate christmas but i know a lot about other regions holidays...
some people are scared of education...esp when it comes to faith
There is no difference...both are ignorant. But it is also ignorant to make a general statement that Christians choose to pretend different views don't exist all the time.
Man, you just read my mind, exactly what I was thinking.
I am with you.
My sister converted to Judaism several years ago before she got married, so my entire family took it upon ourselves to learn as much as we could about the religion to support her and so we could help celebrate Hanukkah with her (future) family.
Her d*ck of a husband, though, when he visits my mom and dad's house goes around hiding all of the Christmas books (he literally shoves them behind furniture so his kids can't find them) and they refuse to visit around Christmas time. Which is inconvenient since all of the siblings live in different places (AK, NE, NC) and since we're in education we can only get home around the holidays.
We would have no problem celebrating Hanukkah or just observing it with them, but the same courtesy is not returned.
btw i LOVE the pic of your ds with the "milk and cookies"
im jealous..this would make the cutest christmas card!!!
Maybe this is going extreme, but I feel like not even acknowledging another culture or belief is more damaging to a child. I think it's important for a child to be aware of other beliefs.
For example, DH's cousins children are taught not to believe in halloween, they view it as a satanic holiday, against God. When speaking with their oldest daughter she spoke in a way to indicate that people who believe in halloween are bad people. I tried to explain to her that sometimes people believe in different things and that it's not bad if someone believes in something else. She got upset about this. What happens when she gets to school and all the other kids discuss halloween?
I want Kaylee to be aware of these things, I want her to accept other kids who may express different beliefs from her. While I may not go in depth with her about the other holidays or beliefs I do want her to know that some kids celebrate christmas and some celebrate other holidays and some don't celebrate anything at all, they are no better than us.
I read it more as "how dare they think they can't teach their child christmas" when christians do the same so it's hypocritical. My personal view is that all children should be taught about all religions and non-religions and able to make their own choice. However, my problem with the OP is that she specifically targeted a jewish person, when people of all religions do it. In fact, many atheists keep their kids from religion too and I think it's wrong. I just wanted to point out that it's silly to target one religion for doing this when people from all religions shield their child from other beliefs.
Weeeeeellll now, this is a tad bit different. Your BIL is definitley a presumptuously weird person for goign to someone else's house and moving their stuff around because of what he believes, but I don't think he should have to observe or celebrate a holiday he doesn't believe in.
Do you read everything on red alert? That's not at ALL what she was implying.
I also don't think he should have to celebrate or observe! However, I see nothing wrong with coming to visit before/after Christmas while we are all there anyway!
Swannja was citing a personal example of something that actually happened at work. The lady happened to be Jewish. She didn't "target a Jewish person."
IMO, it was.
She was NOT targeting anyone. She was telling a story. I'm not sure how good your english classes were, but I thought the point of the story was that someone was going to attempt to shield their child from the fact that there is a Christmas.
Swannja, correct me if I'm wrong.
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LOTR, you remind me of my defensive coworker, to whom everything is a personal attack, & insult.
I bring in cookies, I'm sabotaging her dieting attempts and being ignorant towards vegans. I stay late to finish a report and I'm trying to show off or one up her or suck up. I say "Its' snowing again!" and I'm hoping she slides out on the highway in a mangled wreck on her way home. It's hysterical.
Not everything is a personal assault on you. Chill.
Hahaha....Seriously?!?! I "targeted" a jewish person because SHE WAS JEWISH.... I can not make that up.
I guess I was targeted as being labeled a Brunette the other day... oh wait! I AM a Brunette
Lanie--you just gave me a chill. You totally described my MIL.
LOTR, did you read the whole post or only the parts that you wanted to read?
jeebus.
Lanie, this is too funny. I say you bring in cookies tomorrow, tehehehe!
ABM, I pph you!
Lanie again you are reading my mind.................spooky!
I don't know how this got so out of hand but I believe the OP was just stating simply how to you shield your child from Christmas when it's everywhere you look? I don't really think she was trying to touch on religions so much.
Um, it does in my house.