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February 2012 Moms
FFFC
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Re: FFFC
Hilarious. Jokes about CPS/child neglect are the best!
Just alternate each time. That way, it is just luck of the draw when CPS shows up, and you don't have to pick the one you love more.
Confession...I'm having a really hard time biting my tongue!!! I don't want to be 'that' snarky b!tch, but some days it's all I can do to hold it in. And the only reason I do is because saying what I want will do no good...except to flag me as 'that' person. Though this is an online forum, and I know none of you IRL and probably never will, I still don't really want to be flagged like that...when certain comments I'd make wouldn't be directed at that person all the time or be my feelings all the time. However, sometimes it just feels warranted!!!!!
Come on now, let it out! I swear I won't call you a snatchface!
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So...you are talking about me. That's cool. I just spend too much time with DHS/CPS in my state to speak lightly about the process of having kids taken away from their parents in neglectful/abusive situations. Based on the earlier posts about leaving your kid alone in the car when you step inside a store, however briefly, I mentioned that someone in my hometown this year had had their baby taken away from them for a period of time merely for leaving their baby in the car while going inside a 7-11 to buy a coke. Now--were the cops and DHS overzealous? That is not my decision to make. My only point was that there is a difference between how "safe" something is in your mind and how "safe" people think your child is when they may see them alone in the car without immediately seeing you standing next to them.
So, it blows my mind that the response to that comment says that going physically inside a store and being in a location where a person walked up to the car and couldn't see you is the same as: (a) pumping gas and paying at the pump while standing next to the car at all times or (b) leaving your kid at home alone with your dog as a babysitter?!. And then that response is followed up with some CPS/DHS neglect humor. Just doesn't sit well with me. Which is fine, because I am only one person on this board. But if you have the freedom to make those jokes, I have the freedom to say I think they are in poor taste.
I repeatedly said that my recounting the story about the woman going into the 7-11 was just a "FWIW." Honestly, I don't know Starbuck. Except for how it may affect her baby, I honestly don't care if she has to deal with the absolute trainwreck that is having a baby in DHS/CPS custody--for however short of a time period, if she wants to continue leaving her baby in the car. But, for the sake of the group, I thought I would just mention my experience in that situation as food for thought. Now, I wonder why I even bothered, since some of you can't help but to try to "fight" with me, even though I have no interest in engaging with you at all.
Ok, fine "Nancy" here you go, here's what's in my head...this is not going to end well...
This isn't my thought on every single post you make, I agree with some things you say...other times, I just choose to agree to disagree, but hold my thoughts to myself. However, Sooner, this sh!t with Nateslady is annoying as he!!. I knew as soon as she posted, that you would jump up her rear end...and in true Sooner fashion, you did it!!!! Can you PLEASE let it go!!!!!!!!!!!! We get it...YOU DON'T LIKE HER! You and I have had words before...but that's been forever ago, but you don't keep harping on me about it. And if you did I'd block you. So, if she gets on your nerves so bad, WHY DON'T YOU BLOCK HER so that you don't have to ever see anything she says, ever again? "Lovebeing" made a funny remark about the whole CPS thing too...are you going to jump on her? Geez!
That's feels better...however, thanks Nancy, this is going to flag me as a b!tch!
ETA: Sooner, I agree with you on not leaving your kids in the car!!! Like I said above, I agree with you one quite a few things. Others I don't and that's ok...a forum is much better when a discussion can be had from opposing sides. It's the Nateslady crap that is OLD!
SD is 7 almost 8. We had a roommate that lived with us a while while he was looking for a new apartment after moving from out of state. She also lives at BM's house 50/50 and BM has a lot of "friends" and we are trying to teach her you don't walk around naked. We feel it's best for SD to learn that we don't leave our room without clothes on. I'm sorry you feel that we are being strict but there are reasons for our decisions.
It's so funny to joke about your kids getting taken away
I just think it is funny how everything we read, we read through slightly-biased lenses. You have a tendency to not like the stuff I say (for the most part), so therefore, my comment to NL bugged you. If you saw it from my perspective, you would notice that EVERYTIME I say anything about a situation that another poster brings up, NL runs like Sir Lancelot on a flaming white steed over to immediately side with that person and "protect" them from me. I could say that I think today is Friday, and if someone disagrees with me and says it is Saturday, NL would pop in and say "Me, too! And don't let anyone ever tell you you are wrong. Mommy instinct FTW!!11!" Which is totally fine, and she has the freedom to do so, but I also have the right to call out how laughable and transparent her actions are when I see 'em.
To be fair, I did not read any of the previous posts. And i still haven't. My comment was supposed to be funny. The truth is, for 8 months, I lived on the third floor of a condo building with two small children. When DS2 was born, DS1 could not easily climb stairs by himself yet. And, being in Chicago, my back metal stairs were icy and slippery in the winter. So, every. single. time. we went somewhere, I had to first carry down one kid, then run up to get the second. And then reverse the process when we got home. I couldn't physically or safely carry both, so I had to do this. It was awful, and I often felt that one looked abandoned and that it was unsafe to leave one in the car. Then, if I had groceries in the car, I had to run up and down the stairs multiple times while my kids remained unsupervised for a few minutes in my condo. Unfortunately, the things you say you will never, ever do with one child, suddenly become necessary with two. Situations like this, however, we're one of the main reasons we sold our condo and bought our house with an attached garage!
I have two and I live in a condo on the second floor. I can still carry them both but when I can't I'll bring one down to the bottom of the stairs, put her in an umbrella stroller, grab the other one, and then carry one and push one. Or if they can walk we'll get those strap things (which I swore I'd never get - before I had twins, lol). Even with two I wouldn't do it.
To be more clear, one waited at the door while I ran down to the car which was parked right behind the building in our carport. So, essentially I did exactly what you just mentioned.
ETA: carport at the bottom of our back stairs. Could always hear, usually see child and car.
That makes more sense if there are more people than just immediate family around.
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Yeah, I didn't think "oh God, another NL attack"
Note to self: will be keeping these confesssions, thoughts to myself from now on!
I don't think child neglect is funny.
Somehow, both of these statements are true.
And see, I think just as Sooner has an issue with Nates, you have an issue with Sooner. You would have seen this as a Sooner attack on Nates, when in actuality it was a Sooner attack on people taking the CPS issue too lightly. Do I make any sense here? That made sense in my head, but that doesn't mean it will to anyone else.
::backs away before jenna starts slapping::
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Yes.
Confession: every time I see your screen name, I wonder if your name is Jessi Cameron or Jessica Meron. No need to answer that, obviously! Just telling you that I think this every time.
No slapping from whoever "Jenna" is, lol!
Just to clear the air--I spent my morning doing my volunteer docket over at the juvenile courthouse. I just witnessed in one of my cases a mom taking a situation entirely too lightly (making really passive-aggressive comments to the caseworker that freaked the caseworker out, getting into a "power tiff" with the judge about an issue that SO didn't matter in the grand scheme of things, etc.). Well, the mom doesn't know this, but I had pushed like crazy to get everyone on board to re-unite her with her kids before Christmas because I do believe that she is a safe placement and that the previous conditions have been satsifactorily corrected.
But because she breezed in with her mouth going and jacked around with the judge, CPS' recommendation changed and the judge ordered us to come back in 90 days for another status hearing. So...I had to tell my clients (three sweet kiddos) that they are going back to their foster homes to spend Christmas apart from each other and without their mom. So, yeah, my threshold for people being super cavalier about CPS and being separated from their kids is pretty low today. I was actually trying to hold back what I felt like saying by just making that one little comment about how I didn't particularly find that line of "jokes" funny. I was not the one who escalated the situation.
ETA: As as to JM's comment--NL specifically said that she was "cracking up" over Starbucks' comments re: CPS coming for her kids. She was the one who thought it was "funny." I just responded and said I didn't see the humor. That was all.
YES!!! I'm not the only one who has thought about this! I talk to myself (in my head) about it.
The fact that I talk to myself in my head might be a confession in itself.
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I literally just LOL'd at this. And also at Lancy's using the word "snatchface."
But I also think the quote, "Nothing good came from learning, and books is the worst! The last time I read a book, I was raped!" is hysterical. So, there's that.
:::::backs away slowly!
Sorry ladies I didn't mean to start today's war!!!
This breaks my heart Sooner. I don't know how you handle it, but I'm glad that you are doing what you're doing.
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I do have to agree with Sooner that we all, as parents, need to be careful of issues involving CPS. You can be flagged way more easily than you think. A friend of mine dropped a straitening iron on her sons face and he got a terrible burn, then 2 weeks later he got bit by their dog. She was flagged by CPS after 2 ER visits.
A woman I know had her 14 month old fall down the stairs and break her leg when a guest left the baby gate open. Any broken bone in a child that young is flagged.
I don't think Sooner was attacking anyone who leaves their child in the car, just warning everyone that CPS could be called and it is not something you want to deal with.
I have to say I think the "jumping on Sooner" has gotten way more annoying than jumping on NL. NL knows exactly why a lot of people don't like her, because she seriously offended a lot of the women on here. You all jump on Sooner because you don't like her posting style which I find much more annoying and juvenile.
You know, in the spirit of being honest and all
Starbuck--I don't know what to say. Clearly, I get to you somehow. Somehow, you have created this "Sooner" that exists in your mind that bothers you in ways that I can't even imagine. If we go back and look, you said in your original post that "Only once has someone else pulled up in front of the store while I've been there, and the little old lady who pulled up clearly thought it was crazy there was a baby just sitting in the car." The only thing I responded to was to say that, for better or worse, in my town this year, a situation similar to that (woman pumped gas at 7-11 and went into the gas station a few feet away to pay/grab a soda) and got a family all involved in CPS issues. I ended that post by saying that the mom would, of course, ultimately be able to clear her name, but what a hassle and heartaching situation to deal with if you don't have to. And all of my response was merely explaining why I, personally, don't leave my baby in the car when I am not standing next to it.
I think it might be healthy for you to block my screen name if I make you that upset. It won't take away anything from your enjoyment of the Bump to not see my posts. I honestly don't have a beef with you, but I can see that there is something about me that you are just never going to accept. I'm sorry about that, but I can't really do anything about it either.
I actually really like being able to do it. So much of my work is defending one mega-corporation from another, or trying to get money for a corporation from another one. It is a good living, but I want my "life's work" to be a little more meaningful than that--so I try to make sure to always have 3-4 of these deprived/abused cases going on. But really it is the DHS caseworkers and CASA workers and all those selfless people who work way too many hours for way too little pay that deserve ALL the respect.
In situations like today, it is tough to explain why I can't just "make things right" for these sweet, completely innocent kids. And it makes me want to take a 2x4 to their parents' faces. But I can't. But those aren't the toughest ones. The toughest ones are the ones where older kids who have been systematically abused want to go back home to their parents because they "love" them and the fear of the unknown is worse to them than going back into the most miserable situations you can ever imagine. I HATE those cases--because I have to advocate for their "wishes," not for what is in their "best interest."
Giving the kids their own attorney who represents them and no one else is supposed to give them a sense of control and a "voice" in a system that has historically done a poor job at empowering kids' interest as paramount. So, I get that there is a reason that it is so important to be the voice for that otherwise voiceless child. But it makes my ever-loving skin crawl to have to tell a jury that the kid "wants to go home" in those kinds of situations.
I agree. Who would have thought that a "hey, just be careful because its easy for something to be misconstrued and cause a big headache" would turn into another jump on Sooner session.
Oooh... and it's neither! The mystery deepens
Is it Jessica for you and Cameron for your husband? That's what I always think (after I read it 2 or 3 times)
BFP 3.8.16 EDD 11.20.16
I wanna join you two! But only if we get to make jokes that other people would think are in poor taste!