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March 2013 Moms
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The "Introduce Yourself" Questionnaire
mlrafiki
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Hey everyone, there seem to be a lot of March Mommies, and even with the signatures, I'm struggling to recognize individuals. How about a handy-dandy questionnaire that puts all our intros in one thread and helps us remember you?
Due Date?
# Pregnancy?
# Child?
Age?
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged?
Planned/Unplanned?
Twins or More?
Working? Doing what?
Biggest Pregnancy Joy?
Biggest Pregnancy Fear?
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you!
Naturally, no one should feel obligated to answer all of these, and feel free to provide any other info about yourself that will help us get to know you! Please be cautious about providing any name/location information, for your safety.
"Can I call your baby 'Ze Munchkin,' or 'ZM' for short?" - my best friend
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Re: The "Introduce Yourself" Questionnaire
Due Date? Based off LMP, March 20th
# Pregnancy? 3
# Child? 1
Age? 23
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Yessum and 3 years
Planned/Unplanned? This one was semi-planned, we knew we wanted 2 but wanted to wait a little longer until I was out of school
Twins or More? Not sure, first ultrasound is on August 14th
Working? Doing what? Yes and I'm a Pharmacy Technician
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Knowing I've got a little one on the way
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Afraid of another miscarriage. The first time I had a miscarriage, I conceived in July and miscarried 3 weeks later.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I'm getting a degree in criminalistics
Due Date? Based off LMP, March 20th
# Pregnancy? 3
# Child? 1
Age? 23
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? I'm married and 3 years
Planned/Unplanned? This one was semi-planned, we knew we wanted 2 but wanted to wait a little longer until I was out of school
Twins or More? Not sure, first ultrasound is on August 14th
Working? Doing what? Yes and I'm a Pharmacy Technician
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Knowing I've got a little one on the way
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Afraid of another miscarriage. The first time I had a miscarriage, I conceived in July and miscarried 3 weeks later.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I'm getting a degree in criminalistics
Hello again! To get the ball rolling....
Due Date: March 26/27 Just Bump's estimate, doc's still not sure.
First Pregnancy, yeah!
First kiddo!
28 years old
Married 4-and-a-half years
Planned, although the timing was a surprise.
Looks like just one cute little bean at the moment, no twins.
Yep, working. Actually in the middle of switching jobs: I'm an Art Director/Animator for social games.
Biggest Joy? I'm growing a human. That's just mind-bogglingly cool. Also the fact that hubby was mentally and emotionally prepared when I became pregnant.
Biggest Fear? I'm petrified of C-sections. I know they're fairly common, safe, and sometimes necessary, but for some reason, I find them SOOOO scary. Oh, and my sister's getting married not long after my due date, so I'm worried about stealing her thunder.
Fun fact? Ummmm..... My husband told me that the idea of kids terrified him until the day we did the Big Deed, and then that night, he had a dream in which he was present at the birth of our child. He said that it was such a happy dream that he woke up and decided he was ready. AWWWW....
Due Date? 3/19/12 for now. First US is 8/14/12 we will see if it changes
# Pregnancy? First
# Child? none, this is our first!
Age? 25, will be 26 when I deliver
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married for a year and a half
Planned/Unplanned? Planned
Twins or More? I hope not!
Working? Doing what? I am a labor and delivery RN
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? We will see, I think feeling the baby move will be one. But right now between the gassiness, nausea, heart burn and sore boobs, none of those are joyful to me.
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Ectopic pregnancy or mis-carriage
BFP #2 (5/18/13) due 1/26/14. Grow baby grow!
Its a surprise! Team green!
# Pregnancy? 4
# Child? 3
Age? 32
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? married 2 yrs
Planned/Unplanned? planned
Twins or More? just one
Working? Doing what? home daycare
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? seeing the baby today and heartbeat
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? miscarriage again
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you!
Make a pregnancy ticker
Due Date? 3/28/13 (Not confirmed yet though)
# Pregnancy? #1!
# Child? #1!
Age? 25
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married, only 3 months
Planned/Unplanned? A little of both? We were trying, just not very hard! I was convinced that it would take us 6-9 months.
Twins or More? Not that I'm aware of, but it does run in both sides of the family!
Working? Doing what? Working 2 jobs, Nanny Mon-Fri (I'll be able to take the baby with me, I couldn't be happier!), Dog Trainer Sat & Sun (This will have to be cut down to one day in a few months, and I may have to drop it all together once LO arrives)
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? I'm only 5+6, so, so far this "YES +" on the digi test!
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Miscarriage. For sure.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! Hm.. DH and I met on a blind date when we were only 17, and we have been inseparable ever since! When I dropped him off after our first date (he didn't drive yet), he paused when getting out of the car, turned and looked at (more like studied) my face and said, "This could work." Haha, apparently!
Due Date? 3/26/12 but was told that may change on Friday at my u/s as my doctor says my uterus feels larger
# Pregnancy? first
# Child? this will be our first
Age? 29
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married 5 yrs
Planned/Unplanned? planned
Twins or More? not sure - first ultrasound is Friday
Working? Doing what? finance
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? my husband's excitement
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? I have some congenital heart problems, and though I was told I could TTC, I'm still very nervous as I need additional monitoring.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! Travel is our passion. We're always on the go. Later this month we're headed to Micronesia.
Due Date? March 14th, St. Patty's Day
# Pregnancy? 1 (although I think I had a super early miscarriage about a year ago)
# Child? 1
Age? 32
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married almost 3 years
Planned/Unplanned? both? We were told that it wasn't likely that we would conceive on our own because of DH's counts and moderate vericocele. Surprise! We got pregnant on our own 2 months after we finished up our fertility testing.
Twins or More? gosh, I hope not. There are a lot of them in my family these days and I'm a little freaked about that, to be honest.
Working? Doing what? Working - I work for an Environmental focused non profit.
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? The sheer fact that we were actually able to conceive on our own without intervention
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? That this kid won't stick and we'll face another 2 years of failed attempts.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I bought a fixer-upper house the year before I met my DH. Re-doing the kitchen has been a dream of mine since the day I signed the deed and we are *almost* finished with it (we started demo in March so this is a long time in coming!). My Dad and I just installed the countertops and sink tonight which means all we have left is to tile the backsplash and install a few lights. I'm giddy excited about that, almost as much as I'm giddy excited about being pregnant!
Due Date? March 27, 2012
# Pregnancy? 1
# Child? 1
Age? 27 (will be 28 by the time LO is born)
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? 4 years this Friday!
Planned/Unplanned? Very much planned
Twins or More? Don't know for sure yet, I think it's just a single
Working? Doing what? I work full time at a University
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Finally reaching one of my biggest life dreams
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Losing it all
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I'm a 5'3'' natural redhead! *points at Ariel avatar*
Me: 30, DH: 33 Married 8/3/08
BFP 7/16/2012 (8th cycle), EDD 3/27/2012, Delivered 3/24/2013 - IT'S A BOY!
Due March 8th, no ultrasound until 20 weeks, but I was charting and very certain of dates. My chart was beautiful!!
3rd Pregnancy: had one C/P, and DD, now this one
Age: 33
Married for nearly 6 years, been dating since 1998 though
Totally planned, DD took 3 years to have and needed and IUI for her so we were not going to waste any time trying for #2. Only trying for 4 months for this one!!
Twins: Sure hope not!
Work as a Certified Prosthetist (making artificial arms/legs for those who have had a limb amputation for whatever reason, cancer, diabetes, accidents etc.)
Biggest Pregnancy Joy: with DD first time I felt her kick was awesome!
Biggest Fear: in 7 more months I'll be 9 months pregnant with an almost 2 year old OMG!!!
Derek - February 2013 Caelyn April 2011
I LOVE your avatar, and Happy Anniversary!
Due Date? March 15, 2013
# Pregnancy? First!
# Child? First!
Age? 24, will be 25 when I deliver
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married - almost 4 months
Planned/Unplanned? Definitely unplanned-- I was on BC! We planned on waiting at least 4 more years... God had other plans, apparently!
Twins or More? Twins run in DH's family... I'm hoping not. I don't know if I could handle 2 my first time around, lol.
Working? Doing what? Yes, Provider Advocate at Blue Cross Blue Shield of TX.
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? I can't wait to feel my LO move!
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? I'm terrified of miscarrying.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you!: DH and I "met" while he was in the Marine Corps... in Afghanistan. We hadn't even lived in the same state before we moved in together... yes, we're a bit crazy.
Thank you! Ariel has always been my hero. I'm an aquarius and definitely a "water baby" as my mom used to call me. Used to be a competitive swimmer
Dang is that enough about me? Sorry!
Me: 30, DH: 33 Married 8/3/08
BFP 7/16/2012 (8th cycle), EDD 3/27/2012, Delivered 3/24/2013 - IT'S A BOY!
Due Date? March 27th (no 1st appt yet though_
# Pregnancy? 1 real (mc in Sept)
# Child? 1!!
Age? 26 (27 in Sept)
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married for 3 years
Planned/Unplanned? Planned
Twins or More? Don't know still
Working? Doing what? yeah...looking and failing at getting a job. Not fun.
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Having a healthy baby!!
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Not being able to have a healthy baby. Also vaginal tearing and pooping during labor.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I am a math nerd (teacher by trade :P) and I am SO jealous of anyone who will give birth on 3/14 (Pi day... 3.14159)
BFP - 7/16/12 ----- EDD 3/27/13 ----- Born 4/5/13
BFP - 5/27/14 ----- EDD 1/31/14 or 2/4/15
Woot due date buddy!
Me: 30, DH: 33 Married 8/3/08
BFP 7/16/2012 (8th cycle), EDD 3/27/2012, Delivered 3/24/2013 - IT'S A BOY!
Due Date? March 8
# Pregnancy? Frist
# Child? 2 fur babies (1 dog, 1 cat)
Age? 28
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married for just over 2 years
Planned/Unplanned? Planned. We found out last fall (after trying naturally for over a year) that my husband could not have children so we purchased donor sperm and here we are...Yay!
Twins or More? Based on the first ultrasound just one!
Working? Doing what? Currently working a full time office job doing a bit of everything (a/p, a/r, payroll, customs, answering phones...a bit of EVERYTHING)
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? So far...seeing the heart beat at my 7w 5d ultrasound
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Miscarrying and having to start all over again!
Due Date? March 15
# Pregnancy? 2 - had a mc in Feb
# Child? This will be the first.
Age? 41 - Yep I am an old lady!
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married 7 years
Planned/Unplanned? Planned
Twins or More? Just one
Working? Doing what? History Teacher
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Hearing the heartbeat
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Another loss
Fun Fact: I have been to all 7 continents!
BFP #2 - 7/1/12 - Met my lucky charm Alexandra on 3-16-13!!!
Due Date? March 9, 2013
# Pregnancy? 1st
# Child? 1st
Age? 28
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married for a little over 4 months
Planned/Unplanned? Well, I wouldn't say it was planned....but we weren't preventing either
Twins or More? Nope, just 1 baby in there
Working? Doing what? 7th grade teacher
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? I think I'll be really excited when I can feel it move and kick.
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Miscarriage or still-born
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! Just bought my first pair of maternity pants after having to literally unbutton and unzip my jeans in the car on the way home from the doctor yesterday!
BFP#1 06/2012 ----Luke John born 03/2013
BFP#2 06/2014 ----MMC 8w4d D&C 07/2014
BFP#3 10/2014 ----Chemical
BFP#4 01/2016 ----Due 09/10/2016
Due Date? March 9
# Pregnancy? First
# Child? This will be our first.
Age? 26 (27 next month)
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married for a little over a year now.
Planned/Unplanned? Unplanned. We had been talking about starting soon but I wanted to wait until after our vacations this summer. However, that didn't happen and we were surprised by getting pregnant a few months early!
Twins or More? Nope, just one in there.
Working? Doing what? I do work part time as a Salon Coordinator/manager at a hair salon and spa (would love to go full time but that isn't available right now, but I guess it's for the better since I'm having horrible m/s.)
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Seeing my husband become a daddy. He's always wanted kids were for a while I was pretty unsure (actually i was adamant about NOT having them!)
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Miscarrying
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I met my husband on a cruise in the middle of ocean to Jamaica! We met on the last night and didn't even have a solid conversation. When I got home I found him on myspace (back when myspace was all the rave! lol) and we started talking about a couple of weeks. We got to know each other online and after a year I moved across to the country to live with him and the rest is history!
Due Date? 3/19
# Pregnancy? 1
# Child? This is our first
Age? 34
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married (5 years this October)
Planned/Unplanned? Planned
Twins or More? Nope
Working? Doing what? Yes. I am an editor and custom ad producer for a web site owned by a magical media conglomerate
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Hearing the heartbeat this week
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? The slight GD I have will hurt the baby
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! Addicted to Disney. We go to Disneyland once a month We went two weeks ago - first time when pregnant. Can't wait to take LO there. We are going on our fifth Disney Cruise in October.
Adam & Shoshie 10-21-07: "My family is big and loud and everybody's in each other's lives and business. ... but wherever I go, they will always be there." * My Blog: Tales of a Hopeful Jewish Mom to Be *
Due Date? March 16
# Pregnancy? 1
# Child? This will be our first
Age? 27
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married 2 years
Planned/Unplanned? Planned
Twins or More? Was sort of hoping for twins but it looks like just 1
Working? Doing what? CT Technologist (CAT scan)
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Simply knowing there is a tiny life inside of me, something I've wanted to experience for so long! Also seeing how excited my husband gets about it. Sometimes he's quite terrified but he already loves this baby too.
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? miscarriage
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I have a pet tortoise, Benjamin, and he's pretty excited about being a big brother.
I have a couple of friends who are obsessed with pi. I'm due the 16th so if I go 2 days early my friends will be thrilled! I promise not to rub it in though.
Due Date? March 10
# Pregnancy? First!!
# Child? First
Age? 29
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married for 3 months, together 3 years
Planned/Unplanned? Unplanned!
Twins or More? Just one
Working? Doing what? Paramedic/Dispatcher
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? The happiness from the family when we talk about the future of the baby!
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Miscarriage
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I love working with special needs kids-- They are amazing in so many ways. I think I missed my calling and need to work with them full time!
Due Date? March 24 (but I think it's actually later)
# Pregnancy? 2
# Child? 2 - DD is currently 7months old
Age? 25
Married (and for how long)? 3 years
Planned/Unplanned? Planned, although surprised it happened so fast
Twins or More? Just one I think
Working? Doing what? SAHM
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Having my kids so close in age
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Having my kids so close in age (14/15 months apart!)
We are currently living in Hawaii (navy family), and we really hate it here. The reality of living on island is nothing like the postcards.
BFP #2 - MC Aug 2012 - D&C w/ complications
Due Date? March 9, 2013
# Pregnancy? 1
# Child? 1
Age? 35
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? 7.5 years
Planned/Unplanned? Desperately wished for, but after almost two years a total surprise!
Twins or More? Nope
Working? Doing what? Volunteering and working part time for a travel agency
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Sharing the news with my husband
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Everything =/ But mainly miscarriage or waking up and realizing I'm still not pregnant.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! We have lived in 5 cities, 3 countries and 3 continents during our 7 1/2 year marriage.
Due Date? 3/16
# Pregnancy? 2
# Child? 2
Age? 33
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married 3.5 years
Planned/Unplanned? Planned
Twins or More? singleton
Working? Doing what? SAHM to an 11 month old/ want to eventially work PT from home
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Knowing that my son is getting a best friend
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? An unhealth pregnancy
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I currently live on Long Island, but lived in NYC for 5 years prior to getting married. Also, before our church wedding, my H and I went to Vegas, and got married there first. So much fun. So we were married twice!
Due Date? March 22nd *I think* - ultrasound this morning!
# Pregnancy? 3rd
# Child? 2nd
Age? She is 2.5 - will be 3 two days before Thanksgiving this year
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married for over 3 years
Planned/Unplanned? This one was planned.... my DD was not.
Twins or More? Hopefully just one!
Working? Doing what? I teach middle school English and social studies at an alternative school. It's awesome.
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? I love the excitement of expecting a new little one. I wish I had enjoyed it more with my DD. It really is a special time.
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Losing this one. I lost all of my innocence in TTC and being pregnant when I miscarried last winter.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! My husband and my first date was on a Sunday so we went to ESPN Zone to watch football and eat/drink. We ended up having our wedding reception there : )
Due Date? March 16th
# Pregnancy? 2
# Child? 2
Age? 31
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married for 3 years
Planned/Unplanned? very planned
Twins or More? nope!
Working? Doing what? Yes, I teach Kindergarten and I work 2x a week over the summer at a desk job.
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? getting big and wearing maternity clothes - I love the belly!
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? miscarriage
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! My older DS is 19 months old and was diagnosed with PDD-NOS (on the autism spectrum) He's receiving speech and special ed services. If anyone has any questions or concerns with their LO, I've been through it! So feel free to send me a PM and/or page me.
Naturally, no one should feel obligated to answer all of these, and feel free to provide any other info about yourself that will help us get to know you! Please be cautious about providing any name/location information, for your safety.
My little man at 0-1-2
Due Date? March 22
# Pregnancy? 2nd
# Child? 2nd
Age? 28
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married for 5 years
Planned/Unplanned? Planned
Twins or More? I really hope not. Twins scare me.
Working? Doing what? Yes, I'm a social worker.
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Feeling the baby kick and move.
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Having a hard recovery from delivery.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I love to cook. One of the hardest adjustments to becoming a parent was not having the time to cook anymore. Now that DS is a bit older, I have him help me in the kitchen. He loves it and it's one of my favorite activities to do with him.
Due Date? March 2
# Pregnancy? 2
# Child? 2
Age? 25, will be 26 when LO comes
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married for almost 2 months
Planned/Unplanned? Planned!
Twins or More? Just one in there, thankfully
Working? Doing what? Patient Care Tech in a Hospital, graduating in May 2013 and will be an RN
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Not cleaning the litter
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Making it to viability, and then not delivering preemie
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! This is a wedding night baby! We weren't going to start trying until September and during our wedding we said lets just see what happens. Apparently it was meant to be
Due Date? 3/20
# Pregnancy? 1
# Child? 1
Age? 28
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Yes/ 6 years
Planned/Unplanned? very planned
Twins or More? just one
Working? Doing what? Working as a Program Coordinator at a university
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Just being pregnant
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Losing the baby.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I love to travel. I travel as much as I can. I've lived in Europe (my husband is European) and we love to see new places.
Due Date? 3/09
# Pregnancy? 4
# Child? 3 (16yr old and 14 yr old DDs)
Age? 37
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married 8 yrs
Planned/Unplanned? just unprevented
Twins or More? one? 1st US 8/8
Working? Doing what? Project Manager for a healthcare company
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? the thought of having a LO all over again
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? 1. Losing the baby 2. gaining too much weight
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! I feel crazy starting all over with a LO. I'm almost done raising my DDs and could be hang gliding and sky diving.
Due Date? March 8
# Pregnancy? 1
# Child? first one
Age? 31
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married 2 years, dated 5 years
Planned/Unplanned? Definitely planned with IVF
Twins or More? No
Working? Doing what? Department of City Development
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Just being pregnant
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Miscarriage
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! My siggy is pretty memorable....everyone remembers Bruce!
see more After 12
Just because something isn't happening for you right now doesn't mean it will never happen.
IUI #1 - BFN IUI #2 - BFN
IVF - Starting injects May 25 IVF #1 - BFP!
Due Date? 3/6/13
# Pregnancy? 5
# Child? Hopefully our first take out baby!
Age? 27
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married 3 years
Planned/Unplanned? Planned
Twins or More? Singleton
Working? Doing what? Special Education Teacher
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Signs of a healthy pregnancy
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Another Loss
5 Angels
Due Date? March 12th
# Pregnancy? 3rd pregnancy
# Child? 2nd - has 1st u/s yesterday and saw heartbeat! YAY!
Age? 30
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? Married, 4 years on Aug. 8th!
Planned/Unplanned? planned
Twins or More? no.
Working? Doing what? working. meeting planner for non profit
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? finding out sex
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? something wrong happening.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! My daughters name is Mary Lou. She is named after my husband's maternal grandmother AND my maternal grandmother. Who knew there could be two Mary Lou's in our families and now a 3rd.
I was so against the name at first - but now it fits her and we love it.
Due Date? 3/23
# Pregnancy? 2
# Child? 2
Age? 31
Married (and for how long) or Dating/Engaged? married for 6 1/2 years
Planned/Unplanned? planned, but didn't think it would happen so fast!
Twins or More? Hoping just one! We will see next week!
Working? Doing what? Taught 3 year olds, but just became a SAHM
Biggest Pregnancy Joy? Having a best buddy for my son
Biggest Pregnancy Fear? Of course miscarriage, but I'm also freaking out a bit about having a newborn and a toddler- DH works a lot and we have no family around to help out.
A fun fact or short story to help us remember you! Although DH and I grew up just blocks from each other, we didn't actually meet until a mutual friend set us up while DH was living states away while serving in the Army. We "dated" through phone calls, letters, and e-mails while he was overseas and married when he was home on R &R! It was kind of a whirlwind, but almost 7 years later, here we are