S/O the leash post below

ks3pink · July 2012

Kitiara5512:
ks3pink:
Huntsvillemama2012:
Bless your heart sweetie. Your even having twins. Please to come back next year and tell us about how you moved from hand, to shoe, to belt, to spoon, to switch because your hand wasn't hurting them enough.
Yep, I'm having twins, even more reason to be strict. And I would never use an object to spank my kid. That would be abuse. Its not about hurting them, its about getting their attention. The same reason you pop a 1 year old's hand and tell them no when they try to pick up breakable objects off a coffee table. It gets their attention.
I think my brain exploded. You fuckings moron. You do NOT HIT a 1 year olds hand for touching something breakable. You redirect them and then FUCKINGS TODDLER PROOF YOUR HOME. Fuckwit.

Do I use that language when I redirect? Just wondering.

insertclevername · July 2012

ViolaPlayer:

pearblossom:
I'm curious about the logistics here. When you're in a parking lot, what do you do with one twin while you're beating the other?

You tie one to the van's door handle silly.

But don't use a leash to tie the kid to the door handle while spanking the other child because it is inhumane and stuff.

JessAndTrav · July 2012

ks3pink:
Do I use that language when I redirect? Just wondering.

I don't know, do you?

Probably not, because that would be cruel.

ks3pink · July 2012

grr_aargh:
ks3pink:
Kitiara5512:
BTW Many school districts have a policy regarding what you post on the interwebz. I hope you eventually get busted for your comments.
I teach high school and I would never lay a hand on another person's kid. What exactly would I get "busted" for? Most of my students parents' would agree with my parenting style.
Well, as a fellow teacher, I'd fire you for lacking critical thinking skills and teaching your students the same because "We're Southern."

You know what happens when students who come through classrooms like yours get into my classroom? I BLOW THEIR MINDS with discussions on Rogerian argument, Toulmin structure of argument (since you seem to be the queen of unbacked warrant), real conversations about politics and child rearing and world issues, and grammar. You would do well to refresh yourself on the unstated assumption (warrant) that links your reason to your claim. You're missing backing in this argument (spanking is an effective tool for teaching) all the while making the either/or fallacy assumption that *if* one does not spank, one's children will be feral.
You must teach math, right? It's much more black and white than, you know, life.

I do teach math, another thing many people have a hard time understanding.

JessAndTrav · July 2012

NY Mama:
ViolaPlayer:

pearblossom:
I'm curious about the logistics here. When you're in a parking lot, what do you do with one twin while you're beating the other?

You tie one to the van's door handle silly.

But don't use a leash to tie the kid to the door handle while spanking the other child because it is inhumane and stuff.

No, just put the kid in the hot car without the AC on, duh.

grr_aargh · July 2012

NY Mama:
ViolaPlayer:

pearblossom:
I'm curious about the logistics here. When you're in a parking lot, what do you do with one twin while you're beating the other?

You tie one to the van's door handle silly.

But don't use a leash to tie the kid to the door handle while spanking the other child because it is inhumane and stuff.

You say in your best Southern drawl, "Y'all move one inch and you'll be next, preshus!" The not-being-beaten baby will pull a ruler from her pocket and be sure to comply.

DUH!

MCookie816 · July 2012

elmoali:
LoisLane23:

It's a harness, not a leash.

It's absolutely no different than a stroller.

ETA: It's cute that a bunch of FTM's to be are judging harnesses. After having a toddler that bolts the minute her feet touch the ground, I'm a fan of harnesses. Try teaching your 18 month old to hold your hand in a parking lot while she tries to play chicken with the pickup behind you.

No kidding. And I think it's naive, pompous and honestly, dangerous, to think your parenting skills are SO amazing that you can keep a small human safe with a look and your "serious voice." Toddlers love nothing more than to make you doubt your abilities and to give you a virtual "f'uck you."

WORD!

And it is so funny this all reminds me of the scene when Maya Rudolph and John Krazinski give Maggie Gylenhall a stroller as a baby gift in Away We Go and she freaks out and asks them "I love my children! Why would I want to push them away?!".

JessAndTrav · July 2012

ks3pink:
I do teach math, another thing many people have a hard time understanding.

FYI, people, that means she's SMURT.

Or is it smart?

Oh, hell, I dunno. Maw & Paw always say SMURT.

MrsSparklesMcGee · July 2012

A wise man once said:

I really think it?s crazy, that we hit our kids, it really is. Here?s the crazy thing about it, kids are the only people in the world, that you?re allowed to hit. Do you realize that? They?re the most vulnerable and they?re the most destroyed by being hit, but it?s totally okay to hit them. And they?re the only ones! If you hit a dog, they flucking will put you in jail for that sh*t. You can?t hit a person unless you can prove that they were trying to kill you, but a little tiny person with a head this big that trusts you implicitly? Fluck them, who gives a sh*t? - Louis CK

Dncr251 · July 2012

Scout2005:

Yeah, not to pull the whole "you'll see" card but...

You'll see.

eta: That was in response to the leash/stroller thing.

The spanking an 18 month old because annoyance showed on their face thing has my mouth hanging open.

This exactly, in every way.

nic326 · July 2012

ks3pink:
I hate leashes because they look inhumane and I feel like there is more of a chance of the kid getting hurt if the parent gets angry (and most of the parents I've seen using leashes are the irresponsible and full of attitude kind). I also think a lot of parents use strollers for convience, somewhere to but bags and drinks, etc. Also what kid wouldn't prefer being pushed around to being restrained by a leash like a dog? Seems like common sense to me.

Lol, clearly you have not had a toddler who refuses to sit in a stroller and would rather walk around, to the point where they are climbing out of it. DS1 is an active toddler and I am not about to force him to sit in a stroller for along period of time when its perfectly okay to use a harness and allow him to walk. These are especially helpful at places like the mall, Disneyland and other spots where there is a lot of walking in crowds. They are not "inhumane"as you put it.

Never say never. Chances are you will end up using one too

wolverine8 · July 2012

ks3pink:
The more I read, the more amused I am. Wow. I don't even know what else to say. Wait until your kids are school age and teach them right from wrong. Let me know how that works out for you.

So, if you don't baby proof I just keep thinking about how exhausting it must be to follow a baby around all day and keep swatting her away from all the things that are unsafe for her, all while that is NOT teaching her anything at all. I would be such an unhappy person if I spent most of my day smacking/spanking whatever-you-want-to-call-it. Babies don't have reasoning until they are THREE YEARS OLD and even then, it's not great. Your understanding of how to teach right from wrong is WRONG.

klondikebar · July 2012

My apologies if there has already been a Mommie Dearest reference.

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nic326 · July 2012

LoisLane23:
ks3pink:
I hate leashes because they look inhumane and I feel like there is more of a chance of the kid getting hurt if the parent gets angry (and most of the parents I've seen using leashes are the irresponsible and full of attitude kind). I also think a lot of parents use strollers for convience, somewhere to but bags and drinks, etc. Also what kid wouldn't prefer being pushed around to being restrained by a leash like a dog? Seems like common sense to me.

Hmmm...kids that like their independence? Kids that are curious and want to explore? Kids that get bored looking and not touching?

Thank you! I would rather my kids have an interest in being active and exploring their environment as opposed to being sendentary in a stroller for a long time

White0rchid · July 2012

Mrs.SparklesMcGee:
A wise man once said:
I really think it?s crazy, that we hit our kids, it really is. Here?s the crazy thing about it, kids are the only people in the world, that you?re allowed to hit. Do you realize that? They?re the most vulnerable and they?re the most destroyed by being hit, but it?s totally okay to hit them. And they?re the only ones! If you hit a dog, they flucking will put you in jail for that sh*t. You can?t hit a person unless you can prove that they were trying to kill you, but a little tiny person with a head this big that trusts you implicitly? Fluck them, who gives a sh*t? - Louis CK

I think I love you. I know I love Louis, but I also now am in love with you for posting this.

RedWingsFan · July 2012

pearblossom:
I'm curious about the logistics here. When you're in a parking lot, what do you do with one twin while you're beating the other?

Step on their foot so they can't move, or have them help with the beating - teamwork, yo!

nic326 · July 2012

ks3pink:
LoisLane23:
ks3pink:
LoisLane23:
elmoali:
LoisLane23:

It's a harness, not a leash.
It's absolutely no different than a stroller.
ETA: It's cute that a bunch of FTM's to be are judging harnesses. After having a toddler that bolts the minute her feet touch the ground, I'm a fan of harnesses. Try teaching your 18 month old to hold your hand in a parking lot while she tries to play chicken with the pickup behind you.
No kidding. And I think it's naive, pompous and honestly, dangerous, to think your parenting skills are SO amazing that you can keep a small human safe with a look and your "serious voice." Toddlers love nothing more than to make you doubt your abilities and to give you a virtual "f'uck you."
See siggy pic for Tessa's reaction to me reasoning with her about why it's important to stay away from moving cars.
Not trying to be ugly but if my kid looked at me like that at any time they wouldn't be able to run because their little butt would be red. Same thing with the toddler playing chicken. You're going to have a lot of fun when your kids are teenaers if you let that behavior slide now. Trust me, I see it in my classroom everyday, I can tell the kids who were disciplined from the ones who were just shielded.
I think the fact that you spank your 18 month old for not understanding your commands is pretty f'ucking ugly.
I absolutely would never trust you anywhere near my child and frankly, I'm pretty disgusted that you are a teacher. There are hundreds of ways to discipline a child that don't involve abuse. I think I'll try those first.
Spanking is not abuse, and it works. The kid thinks twice before repeating the action. As I said, have fun with the teenage years and god bless the high school teacher that gets disrespected daily by your kid.

I gather you are a teacher who is disrespected quite a bit, otherwise you wouldnt feel so strongly about this spanking/misbehaving/school connection. If I were you I would look more into why kids disrespect you and not whether they were spanked or not. The teachers I remember getting disrespected were complete pushovers who didnt set boundaries or couldnt stand up for themselves. Had nothing to do with a kid getting spanked

Grins04 · July 2012

Two months ago I probably would have never considered using a leash (not because I didn't believe in them (that was before kids haha), I just didn't see the need). Now that my son decided to stop listening to us and everyone around him? I would definitely consider it in a busy place like an amusement park where there are crowds to get lost in (we haven't used one yet though). It only takes him one split second to be out of my sight. We were at a grad party a couple weeks ago and he decided to keep running out into the road even though I told him to sit and take a time-out, or to play in the yard. He's at that age where he's testing his limits. While I do everything I can to parent him, sometimes it's just not enough in the moment. It's not like he's magically going to listen to me everytime. Sometimes it's a process, especially with a 2-3 year old. And so a leash may be necessary for MY family and OUR needs. You never know what that family is going through or if the child is special needs. I know for us a year ago DS had very limited communication...and by that I mean 3 words and no receptive language. If I asked him to do something he just stared at me because he honestly didn't understand me. He wasn't pointing to objects or knew what his sippy was. But anyways, like you said, at least he'd be getting exercise and experiencing things by touch with one unlike a stroller. When you're out in a public setting like that, safety comes first for me, I'm sorry....I don't care what others think.

That being said, we try to let him walk around places as much as possible. The only time we ever really use the stroller is if I think he'll get tired or if I'm in a hurry and need to get in and out fast (he easily gets sidetracked and then I'm stuck with a tantrum when I tell him to hurry). Grocery shopping he is always in the shopping cart, or I wouldn't get any shopping done. When DD is here he'll remain in the cart and I will wear her.

If that makes me a bad parents then so be it lol

mammcg88 · July 2012

ks3pink:

Not trying to be ugly but if my kid looked at me like that at any time they wouldn't be able to run because their little butt would be red. Same thing with the toddler playing chicken. You're going to have a lot of fun when your kids are teenaers if you let that behavior slide now. Trust me, I see it in my classroom everyday, I can tell the kids who were disciplined from the ones who were just shielded.

You are a disgusting breed of person. Spanking a child's butt until it's red is abuse. I hope that every nasty, terrible bit of karma beats your ass until it's red.

ks3pink · July 2012

nic326:
ks3pink:
I hate leashes because they look inhumane and I feel like there is more of a chance of the kid getting hurt if the parent gets angry (and most of the parents I've seen using leashes are the irresponsible and full of attitude kind). I also think a lot of parents use strollers for convience, somewhere to but bags and drinks, etc. Also what kid wouldn't prefer being pushed around to being restrained by a leash like a dog? Seems like common sense to me.
Lol, clearly you have not had a toddler who refuses to sit in a stroller and would rather walk around, to the point where they are climbing out of it. DS1 is an active toddler and I am not about to force him to sit in a stroller for along period of time when its perfectly okay to use a harness and allow him to walk. These are especially helpful at places like the mall, Disneyland and other spots where there is a lot of walking in crowds. They are not "inhumane"as you put it.
Never say never. Chances are you will end up using one too

If I were to have a child that I couldn't reason with to stay in their stroller, and I know that some kids are like that, then I would have to figure out another plan because I really dislike harnesses.

nic326 · July 2012

ks3pink:
Scout2005:
LoisLane23:
ks3pink:

Yep, I'm having twins, even more reason to be strict. And I would never use an object to spank my kid. That would be abuse. Its not about hurting them, its about getting their attention. The same reason you pop a 1 year old's hand and tell them no when they try to pick up breakable objects off a coffee table. It gets their attention.
I don't do that either. I baby proof my house so that my child is free to explore her surroundings safely. Your child can't even live safely.
Who the FARK pops a 1 year old's hand?! Is this actual life?
Only every parent I know. Some of you really need to visit the South I guess, maybe that's why my style seems so foreign. Its worked for ages.

Do you hear a lot of dueling banjos where you live? Cause every parent I know uses methods other than hitting their kid to get their point across

grr_aargh · July 2012

ks3pink:
grr_aargh:
ks3pink:
Kitiara5512:
BTW Many school districts have a policy regarding what you post on the interwebz. I hope you eventually get busted for your comments.
I teach high school and I would never lay a hand on another person's kid. What exactly would I get "busted" for? Most of my students parents' would agree with my parenting style.
Well, as a fellow teacher, I'd fire you for lacking critical thinking skills and teaching your students the same because "We're Southern."

You know what happens when students who come through classrooms like yours get into my classroom? I BLOW THEIR MINDS with discussions on Rogerian argument, Toulmin structure of argument (since you seem to be the queen of unbacked warrant), real conversations about politics and child rearing and world issues, and grammar. You would do well to refresh yourself on the unstated assumption (warrant) that links your reason to your claim. You're missing backing in this argument (spanking is an effective tool for teaching) all the while making the either/or fallacy assumption that *if* one does not spank, one's children will be feral.
You must teach math, right? It's much more black and white than, you know, life.
I do teach math, another thing many people have a hard time understanding.

Oh, you are a gem, aren't you?

So I was right, then. I'm going to suggest that the best math is creative at root and requires the same critical thinking that logic and rhetoric do. As such, you might broaden your ability to teach math by honing up on your skills of argumentation.

Start with the Toulmin Project Home Page. Please focus on Warrant.

ks3pink · July 2012

mammcg88:
ks3pink:

Not trying to be ugly but if my kid looked at me like that at any time they wouldn't be able to run because their little butt would be red. Same thing with the toddler playing chicken. You're going to have a lot of fun when your kids are teenaers if you let that behavior slide now. Trust me, I see it in my classroom everyday, I can tell the kids who were disciplined from the ones who were just shielded.
You are a disgusting breed of person. Spanking a child's butt until it's red is abuse. I hope that every nasty, terrible bit of karma beats your ass until it's red.

Read all the posts please. It was a metaphor meaning I would spank them, not literally make their butt red.

Sherbet Lemon · July 2012

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ks3pink:
I hate leashes because they look inhumane and I feel like there is more of a chance of the kid getting hurt if the parent gets angry (and most of the parents I've seen using leashes are the irresponsible and full of attitude kind). I also think a lot of parents use strollers for convience, somewhere to but bags and drinks, etc. Also what kid wouldn't prefer being pushed around to being restrained by a leash like a dog? Seems like common sense to me.

I hate spanking because it looks inhumane and I feel like there is more of a chance of the kid getting hurt if the parent gets angry (and most of the parents I've seen spanking are the irresponsible and full of attitude kind).

Just saying.

lildevil968 · July 2012

Ok. My DD is school age, so I will weigh on this. My DD has been spanked all of one time, and this is when she ran out a store into a crowded parking lot. She is a well rounded smart kid who knows their are consequences to her actions. We tought her about consequences by acting on what we said would happen if she didn't listen, or do what we asked. If we said we where going to donate all of her toys if she didn't pick up her room, then thats what we did. One day she came home from school, and had nothing in her room besides her bed, sheets, dresser, and clothes. We had taken all of her stuff to the goodwill. That day she learned that their where consequences for her actions. You can teach kids about consequences without spanking them.

Either you have forgotten what it is like to have babies/toddlers in the house, or you are a f*cking dense idiot.

mammcg88 · July 2012

ks3pink:
mammcg88:
ks3pink:

Not trying to be ugly but if my kid looked at me like that at any time they wouldn't be able to run because their little butt would be red. Same thing with the toddler playing chicken. You're going to have a lot of fun when your kids are teenaers if you let that behavior slide now. Trust me, I see it in my classroom everyday, I can tell the kids who were disciplined from the ones who were just shielded.
You are a disgusting breed of person. Spanking a child's butt until it's red is abuse. I hope that every nasty, terrible bit of karma beats your ass until it's red.
Read all the posts please. It was a metaphor meaning I would spank them, not literally make their butt red.

I did, and none of your back peddling bull is going to change my view of you. You suck.

ks3pink · July 2012

nic326:
ks3pink:
LoisLane23:
ks3pink:
LoisLane23:
elmoali:
LoisLane23:

It's a harness, not a leash.
It's absolutely no different than a stroller.
ETA: It's cute that a bunch of FTM's to be are judging harnesses. After having a toddler that bolts the minute her feet touch the ground, I'm a fan of harnesses. Try teaching your 18 month old to hold your hand in a parking lot while she tries to play chicken with the pickup behind you.
No kidding. And I think it's naive, pompous and honestly, dangerous, to think your parenting skills are SO amazing that you can keep a small human safe with a look and your "serious voice." Toddlers love nothing more than to make you doubt your abilities and to give you a virtual "f'uck you."
See siggy pic for Tessa's reaction to me reasoning with her about why it's important to stay away from moving cars.
Not trying to be ugly but if my kid looked at me like that at any time they wouldn't be able to run because their little butt would be red. Same thing with the toddler playing chicken. You're going to have a lot of fun when your kids are teenaers if you let that behavior slide now. Trust me, I see it in my classroom everyday, I can tell the kids who were disciplined from the ones who were just shielded.
I think the fact that you spank your 18 month old for not understanding your commands is pretty f'ucking ugly.
I absolutely would never trust you anywhere near my child and frankly, I'm pretty disgusted that you are a teacher. There are hundreds of ways to discipline a child that don't involve abuse. I think I'll try those first.
Spanking is not abuse, and it works. The kid thinks twice before repeating the action. As I said, have fun with the teenage years and god bless the high school teacher that gets disrespected daily by your kid.
I gather you are a teacher who is disrespected quite a bit, otherwise you wouldnt feel so strongly about this spanking/misbehaving/school connection. If I were you I would look more into why kids disrespect you and not whether they were spanked or not. The teachers I remember getting disrespected were complete pushovers who didnt set boundaries or couldnt stand up for themselves. Had nothing to do with a kid getting spanked

I don't personally get disrespected a lot. Heck I'm the teacher whose room is silent because they know better (unless they need to be talking of course). I just see enough to know that no discipline was or is being used. Again whether it be spanking, grounding, time out, etc.

NastyAnnie · July 2012

KS3, you are disgusting. Just FYI. HTH.

NastyAnnie · July 2012

surprised2behereagain:
ks3pink:
I never said I'd hit a baby, or anyone for that matter because yall can't understand the difference in spanking and hitting. I don't think I even spanked DD until she was at least 2. And she doesn't hit others, because I don't hit her.
ks3, I am asking in the most sincere way possible...Please, for the love of God explain to me the difference between spanking and hitting. I hate to be so uneducated about something so important. School me.
Thank you.

Spanking is a *special* type of hitting that only happens between parents or authority figures and children who are small and scared enough not to hit back. Happy to help!

grr_aargh · July 2012

Scout2005:
Sherbet Lemon:
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ks3pink:
I hate leashes because they look inhumane and I feel like there is more of a chance of the kid getting hurt if the parent gets angry (and most of the parents I've seen using leashes are the irresponsible and full of attitude kind). I also think a lot of parents use strollers for convience, somewhere to but bags and drinks, etc. Also what kid wouldn't prefer being pushed around to being restrained by a leash like a dog? Seems like common sense to me.

I hate spanking because it looks inhumane and I feel like there is more of a chance of the kid getting hurt if the parent gets angry (and most of the parents I've seen spanking are the irresponsible and full of attitude kind).

Just saying.

FTMFW
End thread.

SGC29 · July 2012

I was staying out of this. But I just can't.

You want to hear a funny story ks3pink?

My parents raised me VERY similarly to how you are raising your kids. I was taught that gay people were going to hell. They followed the whole "spare the rod spoil the child" logic. I was spanked from a young age. I was spanked for just about anything. They were a southern conservative family with strict values and it was a difficult environment to live in to say the least.

You want to know what kind of relationship I have with them now?

I don't.

I cannot stand my parents. I hate everything they stand for and I pretty much disagree with everything they did to myself and my siblings growing up. I speak to them, occassionally, but I keep my emotional distance. Because I feel almost nothing for them. I wish I could say I love my parents, but I don't. I hope they live wonderful lives and I wish nothing but the best for them. But I wish I could have nothing to do with them. I wish I could cut ties. I don't feel a bond with them. I feel embarrassed FOR them.

Simmer on that a bit.

ali_bl-nov05 · July 2012

An 18 month old looking confused is punishable is the ks3pink household. Seriously don't bother with her, she is beyond help.

nic326 · July 2012

Ks3pink...thoughts on what you would do if another person/child spanked your kid? It would be ok right? Cause spanking isnt hitting

EmsyK · July 2012

I am not a parent of an outside baby yet (7 weeks to go) but i don't see the problem with strollers or leases. If your baby is young and you do alot of walking to get around or maybe don't even have a car, you may well need a stoller. In the usa people us their cars way more to get around but in Ireland people walk alot more so they are used more. Then I'm sure some babies like to be in them (i did as my mom explained as i didn't like walking so much) but my sister would kick and fuss and wanted to be outside so she was used a lease until she would safely obey commands and not run off. All this child abuse stuff is bull regarding either of these options. What works for one child won't for another and all parents have different needs with regard to safety and how much they are out and about/the environment/age of child. Don't understand what all the controversy is about.

With regard to this spanking thing, it's beyond crazy to be hitting an 18 month old for making a disrespectful face. I'm not completely anti-spanking but i won't choose to use this as a form of teaching my children right from wrong (this comes from a woman who was 'hit' by her father up until the age of 8/9 and always threatened with getting hit through the teenage years for as much as making what my father considered a disrespectful face). Thankfully my mother was the best ever and shielded us from this as much as possible and taught us right from wrong in a loving respectful manner.

As a teacher (gasp - maths) too, i don't get this form of discipline at all. As one previous poster said, positive reinforcement is a mechanism that teachers are supposed to apply and is therefore a great method to apply to your own children. I've taught in many different types of schools and can honestly say from experience, the children that misbehave/disrespect and can't control themselves have more than likely been hit and abused and not parented in a good way. The well behaved kids on average have been treated with mutual respect from their parents and have learned how to behave from example (that wouldn't include hitting when they do something a parent doesn't like). Mind boggling that this woman is a teacher!

ali_bl-nov05 · July 2012

LoisLane23:
ali_bl-nov05:
An 18 month old looking confused is punishable is the ks3pink household. Seriously don't bother with her, she is beyond help.

I keep looking at my siggy and thinknig the same thing. Tessa's look is grounds for a beating. I can't get past it.

That's because you don't understand her, like you probably don't undrestand math. It's OK, don't just let it show in you face or deal with the consequences.

KellyD01 · July 2012

RedWingsFan:
Bless your hear, ks3.
As a mom of 2-year old twins, I would just like to say good luck with your theories and strategies. I wish I could be there to laugh at you when one kid runs one way, and the other goes a different direction, and you have a panic attack because you are in a parking lot.
Or when one kid refuses to hold your hand and makes you drag them while the other one wants to be put down because he doesn't want to be held anymore.
Trust me on this one - all of your parenting theories can go out the window when you have twins. You will be in survival mode the first couple years.

A big 'ol yeah that! I don't do a leash, but I also don't leave my house a lot by myself. My girls are just getting to the point where they understand the concept of holding hands. up until just recently I had 3 under 3 and didn't and still don't feel confident that they'll not take off in separate directions, so we don't go out w/o 2 adults / set of kids. I've "popped" each girl on the butt exactly once... spanking in my experience is more about my frustration than it is to teach them a lesson.

I always get a kick out of parents to be's preconceptions even when it's not a FTM... but I think expectant twin moms are down right hysterical sometimes! Oh if only life went as we planned! LOL

ks3pink · July 2012

nic326:
Ks3pink...thoughts on what you would do if another person/child spanked your kid? It would be ok right? Cause spanking isnt hitting

A complete stranger no. A relative or close friend yes.

ks3pink · July 2012

SGC29:
I was staying out of this. But I just can't.
You want to hear a funny story ks3pink?
My parents raised me VERY similarly to how you are raising your kids. I was taught that gay people were going to hell. They followed the whole "spare the rod spoil the child" logic. I was spanked from a young age. I was spanked for just about anything. They were a southern conservative family with strict values and it was a difficult environment to live in to say the least.
You want to know what kind of relationship I have with them now?
I don't.
I cannot stand my parents. I hate everything they stand for and I pretty much disagree with everything they did to myself and my siblings growing up. I speak to them, occassionally, but I keep my emotional distance. Because I feel almost nothing for them. I wish I could say I love my parents, but I don't. I hope they live wonderful lives and I wish nothing but the best for them. But I wish I could have nothing to do with them. I wish I could cut ties. I don't feel a bond with them. I feel embarrassed FOR them.
Simmer on that a bit.

See I am totally opposite. My dad and his family were much more disciplinary than my mom and her side. I grew up with both of my parents and both influences but I am much closer to my dad and his family. I actually have less respect for my mom and her side. My dad spanked me my fair share of times and he is my second favorite man in the world (DH is first of course). I am really sorry you don't have that relationship because it is so special.

ks3pink · July 2012

LoisLane23:
ks3pink:

nic326:
Ks3pink...thoughts on what you would do if another person/child spanked your kid? It would be ok right? Cause spanking isnt hitting
A complete stranger no. A relative or close friend yes.
So you'd let someone else hit your kid. But teach your kid not to hit others. Yeah, I get it.

I have toldmy mom on numerouse occassions she should spank DD when she says or does something wrong or disrespectful. If I trust you to be in charge or my kid I trust you to make them mind.

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