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April 2012 Moms
Saw a santa commercial and I was wondering....
Maybe another controversial post. Will your children believe in santa?
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Re: Saw a santa commercial and I was wondering....
Wait Santa's not real??
Jk, but I would like my children to believe in Santa for a long as possible. Even after they stop believing, Santa will still come to our house hopefully (my parents did this and we all played along). It is fun!
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We're not Christian (at least, I'm not and Jake isn't practicing), but we'll do Christmas (as well as expose them to other beliefs and holidays).
We'll do Santa. But we WON'T be doing the crappy "Better behave or Santa won't give you presents" thing and build it up a huge amount. Magic and imagination is needed for children, and I think Santa (and like-characters) are fun to help w this, but it shouldn't be a *serious* thing. Most likely 1 large present (their big gift of the year) plus the stocking will be from Santa, and the rest will be from family.
Darn Tootin'! Santa came to visit DH and I before we had kids! LOL
I mean, I believe in the religious part of the Holiday, so I'll teach that part as they are old enough to hear it, but the religious side and the secular side can get along just fine IMO.
...of being a CHRISTIAN child...
Definitely will believe!
Check out this article from a friend of mine on FB. Her friend's kid is in this class! Can you believe someone would do this??!!!
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/12/01/ny-teacher-accused-of-spoiling-santa-story-for-young-students/
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Totally agree with you! Christmas is absolutely about the birth of Jesus and we will teach our kids that from the get go but Santa goes right along with the spirit of Christmas!
I've known non-Christian children who believe in Santa and many Christian families who don't do Santa because it goes against Jesus. So, negative ghost rider!
It seems awkward to do Santa when you don't do Christmas at all -- do the non-Christian families celebrate anyway?
Though I celebrate Christmas and I'm not religious or Christian, so I get that.
I just don't like that there are people who say it's a big part of being a child when there are plenty of children who still get the magic and innocence and fun w/o having Santa or Christmas around.
I think she was more pointing out that some religions SPECIFICALLY don't celebrate Christmas. So it's unlikely that they'd do the Santa thing too. I mean, I don't know any Jews who do Santa.
Yes, Mama was much more articulate about it -- thank you!!
That's right, they have Hanukkah Harry. ;-p
That makes more sense, but if you do celebrate a different holiday other than Christmas I would assume it is understood that Santa won't visit your house.
you do now.
How do you explain the whole Santa comes on one night thing? Or do you just modify the Santa to fit? (I hope that doesn't sound snarky, I'm actually curious how you make the idea of Santa, that has been mostly based on Christian customs, work for Jewish customs)
We've always done Santa at our house. Even now my parents still don't put presents under the tree until we are all asleep. My DH and I spend Christmas Eve with them. It's so much fun to wake up in the morning and see all the presents under the tree. I don't even remember when I found out that Santa wasn't real. I don't think I was really that disappointed. So we'll do the same for our kids.
I agree with a PP that we won't hold being good or Santa won't bring you toys over their heads. I think that's just mean.
But I'll be super pissed if some jackass little kid whose parents told him Santa wasn't real because they didn't want to lie to their kids spoils it for mine. Life is full of disappointment and the wonder of Christmas is so magical. Why ruin it for them.
OMG ! That is just wrong. Poor kids.
My kids will believe in santa and all the other fun characters
Oh, and I totally plan to use "be on your best behavior, b/c Santa's watching!" for as long as it works. I don't think it's mean. Kids today are going to grow up too soft, guys!
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I agree with this! I mean, if you can' threaten coal in the stocking instead of candy, what good is it? I mean, you still have to buy the candy so you might as well get something good out of it while you can!
I'm hoping "be on your best behavior, *I* am watching" with icy death glare will be enough.
I don't think it's mean to say that stuff about Santa, I just don't want Santa to be THAT big a part of their lives.
We don't make Santa fit with Jewish customs. They're completely separate. We're a mixed marriage from a religious standpoint, and we both fundamentally disagree with the idea of raising our kids within any organized religion. That said, our families and their respective traditions are deeply important to us, so we do both. Our kids will be raised to understand all religions (as many as we can expose them to, which at this point is quite a few), practice those customs that we deem cultural and/or just appropriate for us (like Santa with my family, or Passover with his), all within the concept of family as their central "belief" structure.
I'm still waiting for my letter from Hogwarts!
I see. That makes perfect sense. Thanks for explaining that.
And to answer the question, we are TOTALLY doing Santa. We are going to try to make it as awesome as we can for Biscuit. Using different wrapping paper so he doesn't wonder why Santa uses the same paper as us, and will be making special tags for the gifts, probably on the computer, so he doesn't recognize handwriting, doing the milk and cookies bit, etc.
I got mine last week so you must not have been chosen. Sorry Charlie
Our gifts from Santa were never wrapped. The toys were already put together and sitting out for us ready to play with! I guess that made it easier to wrap the presents so there was no confusion on what was from Santa and what wasn't.
My kids will believe in Santa and the magic of the holidays! Even at the age of 21, me and my mom spent our last Christmas looking out the window looking for santa and his reindeer.
My mom was Jewish so it was never a religious holiday for me, just a celebration of the season and the magic of believing. We also lit a menorah during Hanukkah and had our own tradition for small gifts on those nights. I hear some families use a Hanukkah bush. We had a Hanukkah pillow case (nothing at all trditional about this, but usually my mom would wrap the presents and line them up on the table with the menorah and I could pick one. One year she forgot to wrap them so threw them in a pillow case and I got to pick that way and we continued it) and discussed where the holidays came from once I was old enough to understand.
My children will also be getting a Scandinavian/Icelandic set of magical creatures in the Yule Lads, who are mischievous trolls that leave treats for kids and have a lot of stories and mythology surrounding them. It also feeds into a lot of Icelandic history that I find really interesting.
Holidays are going to be very varied here and a whole lot of fun!!
Definitely!! Kids today grow up thinking it's ok to act whatever way they want and they still get things. I hate it. I don't think telling them YOU will be watching will do much IMO.
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Totally doing santa and the tooth fairy and all that fun stuff!!
Santa never wrapped his presents to anyone except my Mom
and filled our stockings! It was a magical part of being a kid that I'd never give up for anything!