I don't think anyone here should say 'never' about the length of time they will breastfeed. Especially first time moms, it's easy to think and plan things a certian way, but children don't always follow your plans.
My friend wanted to stop about at a year but her daughter had trouble with weaning. She weaned her finally about 4 months after that though.
I personally hope to breastfeed for a year, would like to be done by 18 months, but we'll see how it goes. I will also pump so that after the first initial 4-6 weeks my husband can bottle feed and be part of the process as well. kellymom is a great site and I don't find it opinionated at all. It gives you a general idea and how to work at being successful and that's all I wanted.
Everyone will have their opinions on appropriate length of time, some will choose not to breast feed at all. Lets all respect each others opinions, because it would be a boring forum if we all thought and talked the same.
How old is too old? Personally I think somewhere around 3-4 years seems like more than enough. I'd like to breastfeed for at least a year, but will be happy with any amount of time. I will likely stop by 18 months since I will be working and pumping will be inconvenient.
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It's okay if we all have different opinions and don't agree on everything. There can be mutual respect for differing opinions. If we all the thought the same way the world & on a smaller scale, TB, would be a boring place. To each his own.
I respect you for doing what you believe to be best for your son. Everyone ought to do that.
Haha! I love how you posted the same thing just before me. It's true, this place would be boring indeed.
It's okay if we all have different opinions and don't agree on everything. There can be mutual respect for differing opinions. If we all the thought the same way the world & on a smaller scale, TB, would be a boring place. To each his own.
I respect you for doing what you believe to be best for your son. Everyone ought to do that.
Haha! I love how you posted the same thing just before me. It's true, this place would be boring indeed.
Yes! Too funny.
And no need for people to get aggressive or haughty when an opinion opposes theirs.
DISCLAIMER: I am NOT specifically referring to anyone's previous post.
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I would never go past 1 year. I'll be lucky if I can make it 3 months. As I stated in the same thread over the weekend, my nipples are extremely senstitve and can't stand to have them touched nevermind being sucked on.
After 1 year if you still want to provide your child with breastmilk then pump and give it to them in a sippy cup. I just find it strange for a child who can walk and talk to be sucking on a boob.
The reason I am so turned off of breastfeeding an older baby or toddler is b/c of an experience I had at my last job. I used to work for David's Bridal. One day a family came in. It was mom, dad, 3yo DD and 6yo DS. DD was going to be a flower girl in a wedding. She spent a while trying on dresses and posing in the mirror. When they were done they were sitting on the couches in the middle of the salesfloor surrounded by mirrors. Mom whipped out her boob and 3yo DD went to town. When she was done her dad said that they were going to go to McD's. She then starts jumping up and down talking about how she is going to have nuggets and fries. Needless to say, all the customers and employees were horrified. If your child is old enough to eat chicken mcnuggets and fries then they are too old to suck on your boob.
You can probably guess from what I've written previously that I disagree with this. FWIW, my daughter was neither walking nor talking at a year (a lot of kids aren't walking at that age, let alone talking). Besides, what does walking or talking or being able to eat McNuggets have to do with whether a child is "too old" to BF?
If I'm doing something that my doctor and various authorities support and recommend, and someone chooses to judge me, I'm not the one with a problem. End of story.
I don't get why you have to argue with peoples opinions. It's like their opinion is wrong just b/c they don't agree with what your opinion is. I don't see why I keep having to defend my opinion with you.
Why is it that when the pro extended BF people voice their opinions it's all fine and dandy but as soon as someone who opposes this voices their opinion then those people are judging and criticizing.
We are all entitled to our own thought and opinions. If you don't like my opinion OH F'ING WELL. I am not forcing you to do anything. You do whatever the fvck you want and I'll do what I want. I don't see how it will affect you.
Well, you went a little beyond opinion when you told people what to do in your post (the bolded).
Also, when you put forth your opinion in a conversation, what do you expect to happen? Especially when the opinion opposing yours is supported by actual science and medical opinion, and your opinion is the only one in this conversation that is judgmental of other people's decisions.
I'm sure we will all continue doing whatever we want, and your choice won't effect us. I'm not sure why that means that no one can respond to your posts, though.
I would never go past 1 year. I'll be lucky if I can make it 3 months. As I stated in the same thread over the weekend, my nipples are extremely senstitve and can't stand to have them touched nevermind being sucked on.
After 1 year if you still want to provide your child with breastmilk then pump and give it to them in a sippy cup. I just find it strange for a child who can walk and talk to be sucking on a boob.
The reason I am so turned off of breastfeeding an older baby or toddler is b/c of an experience I had at my last job. I used to work for David's Bridal. One day a family came in. It was mom, dad, 3yo DD and 6yo DS. DD was going to be a flower girl in a wedding. She spent a while trying on dresses and posing in the mirror. When they were done they were sitting on the couches in the middle of the salesfloor surrounded by mirrors. Mom whipped out her boob and 3yo DD went to town. When she was done her dad said that they were going to go to McD's. She then starts jumping up and down talking about how she is going to have nuggets and fries. Needless to say, all the customers and employees were horrified. If your child is old enough to eat chicken mcnuggets and fries then they are too old to suck on your boob.
You can probably guess from what I've written previously that I disagree with this. FWIW, my daughter was neither walking nor talking at a year (a lot of kids aren't walking at that age, let alone talking). Besides, what does walking or talking or being able to eat McNuggets have to do with whether a child is "too old" to BF?
If I'm doing something that my doctor and various authorities support and recommend, and someone chooses to judge me, I'm not the one with a problem. End of story.
I don't get why you have to argue with peoples opinions. It's like their opinion is wrong just b/c they don't agree with what your opinion is. I don't see why I keep having to defend my opinion with you.
Why is it that when the pro extended BF people voice their opinions it's all fine and dandy but as soon as someone who opposes this voices their opinion then those people are judging and criticizing.
We are all entitled to our own thought and opinions. If you don't like my opinion OH F'ING WELL. I am not forcing you to do anything. You do whatever the fvck you want and I'll do what I want. I don't see how it will affect you.
It's because the logic you're using to validate your opinion is flawed. If you just said, "I think it's okay to BF up to one year old", that's fine, that's your opinion. But your criteria of being too old to BF is "If your child is old enough to eat chicken mcnuggets and fries then they are too old to suck on your boob". We did BLW (Baby Led Weaning) with DS so he was able to eat nuggets and fries at 8 months old. Therefore, according to your logic, he was too old to be BF.
I would never go past 1 year. I'll be lucky if I can make it 3 months. As I stated in the same thread over the weekend, my nipples are extremely senstitve and can't stand to have them touched nevermind being sucked on.
After 1 year if you still want to provide your child with breastmilk then pump and give it to them in a sippy cup. I just find it strange for a child who can walk and talk to be sucking on a boob.
The reason I am so turned off of breastfeeding an older baby or toddler is b/c of an experience I had at my last job. I used to work for David's Bridal. One day a family came in. It was mom, dad, 3yo DD and 6yo DS. DD was going to be a flower girl in a wedding. She spent a while trying on dresses and posing in the mirror. When they were done they were sitting on the couches in the middle of the salesfloor surrounded by mirrors. Mom whipped out her boob and 3yo DD went to town. When she was done her dad said that they were going to go to McD's. She then starts jumping up and down talking about how she is going to have nuggets and fries. Needless to say, all the customers and employees were horrified. If your child is old enough to eat chicken mcnuggets and fries then they are too old to suck on your boob.
You can probably guess from what I've written previously that I disagree with this. FWIW, my daughter was neither walking nor talking at a year (a lot of kids aren't walking at that age, let alone talking). Besides, what does walking or talking or being able to eat McNuggets have to do with whether a child is "too old" to BF?
If I'm doing something that my doctor and various authorities support and recommend, and someone chooses to judge me, I'm not the one with a problem. End of story.
I don't get why you have to argue with peoples opinions. It's like their opinion is wrong just b/c they don't agree with what your opinion is. I don't see why I keep having to defend my opinion with you.
Why is it that when the pro extended BF people voice their opinions it's all fine and dandy but as soon as someone who opposes this voices their opinion then those people are judging and criticizing.
We are all entitled to our own thought and opinions. If you don't like my opinion OH F'ING WELL. I am not forcing you to do anything. You do whatever the fvck you want and I'll do what I want. I don't see how it will affect you.
Well, you went a little beyond opinion when you told people what to do in your post (the bolded).
Also, when you put forth your opinion in a conversation, what do you expect to happen? Especially when the opinion opposing yours is supported by actual science and medical opinion, and your opinion is the only one in this conversation that is judgmental of other people's decisions.
I'm sure we will all continue doing whatever we want, and your choice won't effect us. I'm not sure why that means that no one can respond to your posts, though.
You're another one who likes to argue with people when their opinion differs from yours. I wasn't telling anyone what to do.
Sorry, I should have started it with "I think after 1 year". I was stating an opinion though. As far as the part that I bolded, you state that your opinion is supported by medical OPINION, not fact. I don't know of any child that suffered horrible consequences b/c the were not BF for at least 2 years. Frankly, I don't give a sh!t what the AAP and WHO recommend. They are not going to be raising my child.
FWIW, I've never known anyone IRL who bf for more than a few months. All of those children are perfectly fine. Also the majority of people who responded in this thread have the same opinion as I do, 1 year as the limit.
I would never go past 1 year. I'll be lucky if I can make it 3 months. As I stated in the same thread over the weekend, my nipples are extremely senstitve and can't stand to have them touched nevermind being sucked on.
After 1 year if you still want to provide your child with breastmilk then pump and give it to them in a sippy cup. I just find it strange for a child who can walk and talk to be sucking on a boob.
The reason I am so turned off of breastfeeding an older baby or toddler is b/c of an experience I had at my last job. I used to work for David's Bridal. One day a family came in. It was mom, dad, 3yo DD and 6yo DS. DD was going to be a flower girl in a wedding. She spent a while trying on dresses and posing in the mirror. When they were done they were sitting on the couches in the middle of the salesfloor surrounded by mirrors. Mom whipped out her boob and 3yo DD went to town. When she was done her dad said that they were going to go to McD's. She then starts jumping up and down talking about how she is going to have nuggets and fries. Needless to say, all the customers and employees were horrified. If your child is old enough to eat chicken mcnuggets and fries then they are too old to suck on your boob.
You can probably guess from what I've written previously that I disagree with this. FWIW, my daughter was neither walking nor talking at a year (a lot of kids aren't walking at that age, let alone talking). Besides, what does walking or talking or being able to eat McNuggets have to do with whether a child is "too old" to BF?
If I'm doing something that my doctor and various authorities support and recommend, and someone chooses to judge me, I'm not the one with a problem. End of story.
I don't get why you have to argue with peoples opinions. It's like their opinion is wrong just b/c they don't agree with what your opinion is. I don't see why I keep having to defend my opinion with you.
Why is it that when the pro extended BF people voice their opinions it's all fine and dandy but as soon as someone who opposes this voices their opinion then those people are judging and criticizing.
We are all entitled to our own thought and opinions. If you don't like my opinion OH F'ING WELL. I am not forcing you to do anything. You do whatever the fvck you want and I'll do what I want. I don't see how it will affect you.
It's because the logic you're using to validate your opinion is flawed. If you just said, "I think it's okay to BF up to one year old", that's fine, that's your opinion. But your criteria of being too old to BF is "If your child is old enough to eat chicken mcnuggets and fries then they are too old to suck on your boob". We did BLW (Baby Led Weaning) with DS so he was able to eat nuggets and fries at 8 months old. Therefore, according to your logic, he was too old to be BF.
Fine, you have a point. What really bothered me about the chicken nugget thing was that the 3yo knew that McD's was where she could get nuggets and fries and was excitedly talking about it right after BF'ing in the middle of the store.
I would never go past 1 year. I'll be lucky if I can make it 3 months. As I stated in the same thread over the weekend, my nipples are extremely senstitve and can't stand to have them touched nevermind being sucked on.
After 1 year if you still want to provide your child with breastmilk then pump and give it to them in a sippy cup. I just find it strange for a child who can walk and talk to be sucking on a boob.
The reason I am so turned off of breastfeeding an older baby or toddler is b/c of an experience I had at my last job. I used to work for David's Bridal. One day a family came in. It was mom, dad, 3yo DD and 6yo DS. DD was going to be a flower girl in a wedding. She spent a while trying on dresses and posing in the mirror. When they were done they were sitting on the couches in the middle of the salesfloor surrounded by mirrors. Mom whipped out her boob and 3yo DD went to town. When she was done her dad said that they were going to go to McD's. She then starts jumping up and down talking about how she is going to have nuggets and fries. Needless to say, all the customers and employees were horrified. If your child is old enough to eat chicken mcnuggets and fries then they are too old to suck on your boob.
You can probably guess from what I've written previously that I disagree with this. FWIW, my daughter was neither walking nor talking at a year (a lot of kids aren't walking at that age, let alone talking). Besides, what does walking or talking or being able to eat McNuggets have to do with whether a child is "too old" to BF?
If I'm doing something that my doctor and various authorities support and recommend, and someone chooses to judge me, I'm not the one with a problem. End of story.
I don't get why you have to argue with peoples opinions. It's like their opinion is wrong just b/c they don't agree with what your opinion is. I don't see why I keep having to defend my opinion with you.
Why is it that when the pro extended BF people voice their opinions it's all fine and dandy but as soon as someone who opposes this voices their opinion then those people are judging and criticizing.
We are all entitled to our own thought and opinions. If you don't like my opinion OH F'ING WELL. I am not forcing you to do anything. You do whatever the fvck you want and I'll do what I want. I don't see how it will affect you.
It's because the logic you're using to validate your opinion is flawed. If you just said, "I think it's okay to BF up to one year old", that's fine, that's your opinion. But your criteria of being too old to BF is "If your child is old enough to eat chicken mcnuggets and fries then they are too old to suck on your boob". We did BLW (Baby Led Weaning) with DS so he was able to eat nuggets and fries at 8 months old. Therefore, according to your logic, he was too old to be BF.
Fine, you have a point. What really bothered me about the chicken nugget thing was that the 3yo knew that McD's was where she could get nuggets and fries and was excitedly talking about it right after BF'ing in the middle of the store.
I also think that is weird.
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I would never go past 1 year. I'll be lucky if I can make it 3 months. As I stated in the same thread over the weekend, my nipples are extremely senstitve and can't stand to have them touched nevermind being sucked on.
After 1 year if you still want to provide your child with breastmilk then pump and give it to them in a sippy cup. I just find it strange for a child who can walk and talk to be sucking on a boob.
The reason I am so turned off of breastfeeding an older baby or toddler is b/c of an experience I had at my last job. I used to work for David's Bridal. One day a family came in. It was mom, dad, 3yo DD and 6yo DS. DD was going to be a flower girl in a wedding. She spent a while trying on dresses and posing in the mirror. When they were done they were sitting on the couches in the middle of the salesfloor surrounded by mirrors. Mom whipped out her boob and 3yo DD went to town. When she was done her dad said that they were going to go to McD's. She then starts jumping up and down talking about how she is going to have nuggets and fries. Needless to say, all the customers and employees were horrified. If your child is old enough to eat chicken mcnuggets and fries then they are too old to suck on your boob.
You can probably guess from what I've written previously that I disagree with this. FWIW, my daughter was neither walking nor talking at a year (a lot of kids aren't walking at that age, let alone talking). Besides, what does walking or talking or being able to eat McNuggets have to do with whether a child is "too old" to BF?
If I'm doing something that my doctor and various authorities support and recommend, and someone chooses to judge me, I'm not the one with a problem. End of story.
I don't get why you have to argue with peoples opinions. It's like their opinion is wrong just b/c they don't agree with what your opinion is. I don't see why I keep having to defend my opinion with you.
Why is it that when the pro extended BF people voice their opinions it's all fine and dandy but as soon as someone who opposes this voices their opinion then those people are judging and criticizing.
We are all entitled to our own thought and opinions. If you don't like my opinion OH F'ING WELL. I am not forcing you to do anything. You do whatever the fvck you want and I'll do what I want. I don't see how it will affect you.
What dottymobo and Ruby Soho said.
I'm sorry if my last statement was provocative. But, look: neither I nor any other pro-extended BFing mom has said anyone else *should* BF past a year, just that extended BFing is right for us and for other moms who choose to do so. You pretty explicitly said that you think other people *shouldn't*. Do you see the difference? And do you understand, on a personal level, why I would feel judged by what you said, when I personally made the decision to let my DD "suck on my boob" after one year?
I absolutely don't think it's wrong not to do extended BFing. I don't think any child who isn't BFed past a year is going to suffer. But I definitely think there are benefits - both scientifically provable, and demonstrable in my own experience - to BFing after a year, so I *do* feel strongly that my decision to BF DD as long as I did one of the best parenting decisions I ever made.
Finally: When I asked kylaton to explain why she thought a child shouldn't be able to BF after a year because they would remember it, it was a serious question and she gave a serious answer. I asked you a similar question (about walking, talking, and McNuggets) which, believe it or not, was also serious. You could have made an argument defending your opinion, but you didn't. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, and I respect that you have it, but I have tried to defend my opinion, and admitted when I can't (i.e. I can't really say for sure what's "too old" to BF), which as far as I can tell, you haven't done. I feel that if you're going to express your opinion in a public forum, you should be prepared to defend it. The fact that I'm asking you to defend it is not in itself a sign of disrespect, although the tone in which I ask it may be, for which, again, I do apologize.
DD born 10/10/07 * DS born 11/25/11 * #3 due 3/9/2015
my personal goal is 6 months since I am new to all this and I know that some people have a hard time with it. I would like to have enough stored up to make it a few more months after that, and ideally would like to breastfeed until a year but I am just going to see what happens. I personally would not breastfeed past 9 months to a year, but if other woman choose to, that is their choice and I don't judge.
I think it's crazy how opinionated people are about this issue! It's such a personal choice I don't understand why people don't understand that.
my personal goal is 6 months since I am new to all this and I know that some people have a hard time with it. I would like to have enough stored up to make it a few more months after that, and ideally would like to breastfeed until a year but I am just going to see what happens. I personally would not breastfeed past 9 months to a year, but if other woman choose to, that is their choice and I don't judge.
I think it's crazy how opinionated people are about this issue! It's such a personal choice I don't understand why people don't understand that.
I agree!
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My original goal with DS was at least a year (it is what the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends and what I believe it the bare minimum best for a baby). As he neared a year, my goal became 18 months and then 2 years (The World Health Organization recommends 2 years). I breastfed for about 32 months and loved every minute of it. I plan to do the same with this baby. As an OB nurse, I know the many benefits to breastfeeding. Some of the benefits are just amazing. My son will most likely have memories of breastfeeding....and guess what? I think that is ok. I have vague memories of breastfeeding (I nursed for 26 months) and it doesn't skeeve me out in the slightest. There could be so many other things that would be worse.
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I would never go past 1 year. I'll be lucky if I can make it 3 months. As I stated in the same thread over the weekend, my nipples are extremely senstitve and can't stand to have them touched nevermind being sucked on.
After 1 year if you still want to provide your child with breastmilk then pump and give it to them in a sippy cup. I just find it strange for a child who can walk and talk to be sucking on a boob.
The reason I am so turned off of breastfeeding an older baby or toddler is b/c of an experience I had at my last job. I used to work for David's Bridal. One day a family came in. It was mom, dad, 3yo DD and 6yo DS. DD was going to be a flower girl in a wedding. She spent a while trying on dresses and posing in the mirror. When they were done they were sitting on the couches in the middle of the salesfloor surrounded by mirrors. Mom whipped out her boob and 3yo DD went to town. When she was done her dad said that they were going to go to McD's. She then starts jumping up and down talking about how she is going to have nuggets and fries. Needless to say, all the customers and employees were horrified. If your child is old enough to eat chicken mcnuggets and fries then they are too old to suck on your boob.
You can probably guess from what I've written previously that I disagree with this. FWIW, my daughter was neither walking nor talking at a year (a lot of kids aren't walking at that age, let alone talking). Besides, what does walking or talking or being able to eat McNuggets have to do with whether a child is "too old" to BF?
If I'm doing something that my doctor and various authorities support and recommend, and someone chooses to judge me, I'm not the one with a problem. End of story.
I don't get why you have to argue with peoples opinions. It's like their opinion is wrong just b/c they don't agree with what your opinion is. I don't see why I keep having to defend my opinion with you.
Why is it that when the pro extended BF people voice their opinions it's all fine and dandy but as soon as someone who opposes this voices their opinion then those people are judging and criticizing.
We are all entitled to our own thought and opinions. If you don't like my opinion OH F'ING WELL. I am not forcing you to do anything. You do whatever the fvck you want and I'll do what I want. I don't see how it will affect you.
Well, you went a little beyond opinion when you told people what to do in your post (the bolded).
Also, when you put forth your opinion in a conversation, what do you expect to happen? Especially when the opinion opposing yours is supported by actual science and medical opinion, and your opinion is the only one in this conversation that is judgmental of other people's decisions.
I'm sure we will all continue doing whatever we want, and your choice won't effect us. I'm not sure why that means that no one can respond to your posts, though.
You're another one who likes to argue with people when their opinion differs from yours. I wasn't telling anyone what to do.
Sorry, I should have started it with "I think after 1 year". I was stating an opinion though. As far as the part that I bolded, you state that your opinion is supported by medical OPINION, not fact. I don't know of any child that suffered horrible consequences b/c the were not BF for at least 2 years. Frankly, I don't give a sh!t what the AAP and WHO recommend. They are not going to be raising my child.
FWIW, I've never known anyone IRL who bf for more than a few months. All of those children are perfectly fine. Also the majority of people who responded in this thread have the same opinion as I do, 1 year as the limit.
In the FIRST bolded part you explicitly told people what was acceptable and what they SHOULD do. Not just what you would do for your own child, but you forced that opinion on the entire population by stating that that is what they SHOULD be doing. YOU are the one who is forcing opinions.
The extended BFers never said your child would be hurt by not BFing, just that there was plenty of valid medical references as to why they felt THEY should be doing it still. And it's not just "opinion" when there are facts and statistics to back the medical advice up. It then becomes fact. Does that mean a formula fed kid isnt going to be normal or as smart as a BFed kid? Not at all. But it does mean that, according to research and medically founded evidence, breast milk is generally better for the well being of a child over all than formula and that it's bennefits dont have an age limit. No one ever said it would screw your kid up. And the EBFers are only defending THEIR decision to EBF. They never once told you that you SHOULD be EBFing even though that's what they are doing. You are the one that told them that they should in fact being doing what YOU feel is right even though you have no valid basis for that opinion.
It is your right to choose not to EBF. But it's their right to choose to EBF. None of them said ANYTHING about how youre in the wrong with NOT doing it. The only opinions being stated that are being forced are those who are saying that they shouldnt be EBFing, including your own opinion. It seems to me the only judgmental people are the ones that are against EBFing. No EBFers have said anything at all on this thread about how it would actually harm your child to NOT BF. So it seems to me that youre the one instigating and judging and they are just defending their decision and right. Not arguing. If you didnt want anyone to defend themselves you shouldnt have forced your views as the only "right" way.
I think you took this WAY too personally.
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I find it so strange that nursing up to two years old is considered to be "extended" BF - all of the women in my life who nursed their children did so for at LEAST two years, if not more. Babies are still very much babies right up until three years old, so I don't really understand what's so "weird" about a baby under three BFing.
I also do not understand this desire to arbitrarily cut off a biological function that our bodies (and our babies) are meant to do. Due purely to my working situation, I will be thrilled if I can make it to one year with my child, but truly hope that I can make it beyond that.
I think the stigma against "extended" BFing has more to do with Americans' sexualization of women's breasts than anything.
I find it so strange that nursing up to two years old is considered to be "extended" BF - all of the women in my life who nursed their children did so for at LEAST two years, if not more. Babies are still very much babies right up until three years old, so I don't really understand what's so "weird" about a baby under three BFing.
I also do not understand this desire to arbitrarily cut off a biological function that our bodies (and our babies) are meant to do. Due purely to my working situation, I will be thrilled if I can make it to one year with my child, but truly hope that I can make it beyond that.
I think the stigma against "extended" BFing has more to do with Americans' sexualization of women's breasts than anything.
I agree with this completely! I think this is the only country that seems to have such a problem with extended breastfeeding. It's unfortunate.
And good luck with BFing and working! I hope it goes well. I have several friends who work and it has worked out great for them. One of them even nursed twins for over a year and worked full-time, so it is possible!
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Re: How old is too old to BF?
I don't think anyone here should say 'never' about the length of time they will breastfeed. Especially first time moms, it's easy to think and plan things a certian way, but children don't always follow your plans.
My friend wanted to stop about at a year but her daughter had trouble with weaning. She weaned her finally about 4 months after that though.
I personally hope to breastfeed for a year, would like to be done by 18 months, but we'll see how it goes. I will also pump so that after the first initial 4-6 weeks my husband can bottle feed and be part of the process as well. kellymom is a great site and I don't find it opinionated at all. It gives you a general idea and how to work at being successful and that's all I wanted.
Everyone will have their opinions on appropriate length of time, some will choose not to breast feed at all. Lets all respect each others opinions, because it would be a boring forum if we all thought and talked the same.
Haha! I love how you posted the same thing just before me. It's true, this place would be boring indeed.
Yes! Too funny.
And no need for people to get aggressive or haughty when an opinion opposes theirs.
DISCLAIMER: I am NOT specifically referring to anyone's previous post.
Well, you went a little beyond opinion when you told people what to do in your post (the bolded).
Also, when you put forth your opinion in a conversation, what do you expect to happen? Especially when the opinion opposing yours is supported by actual science and medical opinion, and your opinion is the only one in this conversation that is judgmental of other people's decisions.
I'm sure we will all continue doing whatever we want, and your choice won't effect us. I'm not sure why that means that no one can respond to your posts, though.
It's because the logic you're using to validate your opinion is flawed. If you just said, "I think it's okay to BF up to one year old", that's fine, that's your opinion. But your criteria of being too old to BF is "If your child is old enough to eat chicken mcnuggets and fries then they are too old to suck on your boob". We did BLW (Baby Led Weaning) with DS so he was able to eat nuggets and fries at 8 months old. Therefore, according to your logic, he was too old to be BF.
You're another one who likes to argue with people when their opinion differs from yours. I wasn't telling anyone what to do.
Sorry, I should have started it with "I think after 1 year". I was stating an opinion though. As far as the part that I bolded, you state that your opinion is supported by medical OPINION, not fact. I don't know of any child that suffered horrible consequences b/c the were not BF for at least 2 years. Frankly, I don't give a sh!t what the AAP and WHO recommend. They are not going to be raising my child.
FWIW, I've never known anyone IRL who bf for more than a few months. All of those children are perfectly fine. Also the majority of people who responded in this thread have the same opinion as I do, 1 year as the limit.
Fine, you have a point. What really bothered me about the chicken nugget thing was that the 3yo knew that McD's was where she could get nuggets and fries and was excitedly talking about it right after BF'ing in the middle of the store.
I also think that is weird.
What dottymobo and Ruby Soho said.
I'm sorry if my last statement was provocative. But, look: neither I nor any other pro-extended BFing mom has said anyone else *should* BF past a year, just that extended BFing is right for us and for other moms who choose to do so. You pretty explicitly said that you think other people *shouldn't*. Do you see the difference? And do you understand, on a personal level, why I would feel judged by what you said, when I personally made the decision to let my DD "suck on my boob" after one year?
I absolutely don't think it's wrong not to do extended BFing. I don't think any child who isn't BFed past a year is going to suffer. But I definitely think there are benefits - both scientifically provable, and demonstrable in my own experience - to BFing after a year, so I *do* feel strongly that my decision to BF DD as long as I did one of the best parenting decisions I ever made.
Finally: When I asked kylaton to explain why she thought a child shouldn't be able to BF after a year because they would remember it, it was a serious question and she gave a serious answer. I asked you a similar question (about walking, talking, and McNuggets) which, believe it or not, was also serious. You could have made an argument defending your opinion, but you didn't. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, and I respect that you have it, but I have tried to defend my opinion, and admitted when I can't (i.e. I can't really say for sure what's "too old" to BF), which as far as I can tell, you haven't done. I feel that if you're going to express your opinion in a public forum, you should be prepared to defend it. The fact that I'm asking you to defend it is not in itself a sign of disrespect, although the tone in which I ask it may be, for which, again, I do apologize.
my personal goal is 6 months since I am new to all this and I know that some people have a hard time with it. I would like to have enough stored up to make it a few more months after that, and ideally would like to breastfeed until a year but I am just going to see what happens. I personally would not breastfeed past 9 months to a year, but if other woman choose to, that is their choice and I don't judge.
I think it's crazy how opinionated people are about this issue! It's such a personal choice I don't understand why people don't understand that.
I agree!
In the FIRST bolded part you explicitly told people what was acceptable and what they SHOULD do. Not just what you would do for your own child, but you forced that opinion on the entire population by stating that that is what they SHOULD be doing. YOU are the one who is forcing opinions.
The extended BFers never said your child would be hurt by not BFing, just that there was plenty of valid medical references as to why they felt THEY should be doing it still. And it's not just "opinion" when there are facts and statistics to back the medical advice up. It then becomes fact. Does that mean a formula fed kid isnt going to be normal or as smart as a BFed kid? Not at all. But it does mean that, according to research and medically founded evidence, breast milk is generally better for the well being of a child over all than formula and that it's bennefits dont have an age limit. No one ever said it would screw your kid up. And the EBFers are only defending THEIR decision to EBF. They never once told you that you SHOULD be EBFing even though that's what they are doing. You are the one that told them that they should in fact being doing what YOU feel is right even though you have no valid basis for that opinion.
It is your right to choose not to EBF. But it's their right to choose to EBF. None of them said ANYTHING about how youre in the wrong with NOT doing it. The only opinions being stated that are being forced are those who are saying that they shouldnt be EBFing, including your own opinion. It seems to me the only judgmental people are the ones that are against EBFing. No EBFers have said anything at all on this thread about how it would actually harm your child to NOT BF. So it seems to me that youre the one instigating and judging and they are just defending their decision and right. Not arguing. If you didnt want anyone to defend themselves you shouldnt have forced your views as the only "right" way.
I think you took this WAY too personally.
I find it so strange that nursing up to two years old is considered to be "extended" BF - all of the women in my life who nursed their children did so for at LEAST two years, if not more. Babies are still very much babies right up until three years old, so I don't really understand what's so "weird" about a baby under three BFing.
I also do not understand this desire to arbitrarily cut off a biological function that our bodies (and our babies) are meant to do. Due purely to my working situation, I will be thrilled if I can make it to one year with my child, but truly hope that I can make it beyond that.
I think the stigma against "extended" BFing has more to do with Americans' sexualization of women's breasts than anything.
I agree with this completely! I think this is the only country that seems to have such a problem with extended breastfeeding. It's unfortunate.
And good luck with BFing and working! I hope it goes well. I have several friends who work and it has worked out great for them. One of them even nursed twins for over a year and worked full-time, so it is possible!