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McCain supporters...

I know this is a very depressing day.  I know I am fearful of the direction our country will take, sad for the unborn babies that will lose their lives, and fearful for our safety.  However, I firmly believe that God is still in control and we need to pray for Obama, he is going to be our president and I will always be respectful of that, no matter how much I hate his policies.  All we can do is pray that he won't screw things up too much and that in four years he will be voted out. 

 

Re: McCain supporters...

  • Sad for the unborn babies that will lose their lives? Give me a break.

    Bush was president for 8 years &abortion is still legal. Why do you think that McCain being president would change that?

    I say YA to another 4 years of knowing Women will have the right to choose what happens to their bodies not the Government!
     

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  • I shouldnt have even opened this post.
  • Exactly why I wrote "McCain" supporters in the title...
  • imageMegGary:

    I say YA to another 4 years of knowing Women will have the right to choose what happens to their bodies not the Government!
     

    Amen to that.

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  • Mostly, I hope this is a wake up call to the Republican Party that business as usual isn't working, and the "good old boys club (plus Sarah Palin)" doesn't represent most people.  Most republicans l know are a lot more moderate, and a lot less hateful, than people think.  A Republican like John McCain should have been a great thing for our party, but he had to pander to the extreme right to get the nomination, and in doing so, he lost what was great about him.  Its a sad day for the Republican Party--not because our guy didn't win (he deserved to lose, Obama ran a better campain), but because our party is so off course. 
  • I normally don't post here, but I wanted to let you know that you are not the only one that is thinking this way. All we can do is hope for the best.
  • imageMegGary:

    Sad for the unborn babies that will lose their lives? Give me a break.

    Bush was president for 8 years &abortion is still legal. Why do you think that McCain being president would change that?

    I say YA to another 4 years of knowing Women will have the right to choose what happens to their bodies not the Government!
     

    I couldn't have said it better!

  • 8 years ago did you pray that Bush wouldn't screw things up too badly? Just wonderin'.

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  • I voted for McCain, but there is no reason to be scared!!!!!  If anything this is a great time to be alive and a wonderful moment in history. 
  • I had to open this out of curiosity. Sorry, but George Bush had 8 years to "save the unborn babies" and nothing really happened there. The Republicans screwed up, and George Bush has done a bad job (and this is not me just saying this-- look at his approval numbers. Look at the poll numbers from last night of how secure people felt with the direction of the country). Palin was a bad pick for the McCain campaign because she drove away the moderates. It was one screw-up after another. McCain is a strong and courageous man who deserves to be lauded for the service he has and will provide the country, but Obama's campaign ran harder and deserved to win, IMO.
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  • Don't be fearful for just like you said, God is and always has been in control :)
  • ok I admit I was a McCain supporter but your seriously disturbing. 

     Your abortion comment makes me sick.  That's the one policy I didn't agree with with McCain but I firmly believe he wouldn't have been able to change it just like Bush wasn't - thank god.  Can you imagine if things went back before Roe Vs. Wade with women going to these at home crazy people to get illegal abortions and getting sick and dying...  It's dangerous. 

     Abortion is a womans right not a governments.  I'm not big on abortion but I have a little girl and I couldn't imagine something happening to her and her not having a choice.  I wouldn't take that away from ANY woman.

  • imageMegGary:

    Sad for the unborn babies that will lose their lives? Give me a break.

    Bush was president for 8 years &abortion is still legal. Why do you think that McCain being president would change that?

    I say YA to another 4 years of knowing Women will have the right to choose what happens to their bodies not the Government!
     

    Agreed. What about all the American soldiers and innocent Iraqi citizens (including children) were killed on his watch? blech.

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  • I agree with you that Obama is now going to be President & he is owed respect for that.  I'm very concerned about the next four years. 

     

  • imagek8elee03:

    8 years ago did you pray that Bush wouldn't screw things up too badly? Just wonderin'.

     Why yes yes I did actually. Than I thought of leaving this great land 4 years ago when he was voted in again. I do know of some who actually did.
     

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  • I totally agree... but have to believe that God knew what was going to happen and this is all in HIS plan!
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  • imageJuneMommy2B:
    Mostly, I hope this is a wake up call to the Republican Party that business as usual isn't working, and the "good old boys club (plus Sarah Palin)" doesn't represent most people.  Most republicans l know are a lot more moderate, and a lot less hateful, than people think.  A Republican like John McCain should have been a great thing for our party, but he had to pander to the extreme right to get the nomination, and in doing so, he lost what was great about him.  Its a sad day for the Republican Party--not because our guy didn't win (he deserved to lose, Obama ran a better campain), but because our party is so off course. 

     

    I agree that McCain had to change his views to get nominated and I lost a lot of respect for him when he did that. I could have voted for the old McCain (even thou I'm hard core democrat), not the one that I've seen over the past few months.

  • imageKristenS04:

    All we can do is pray that he won't screw things up too much and that in four years he will be voted out. 

    You're right... Bush screwed it up enough for everyone.  Your post makes me sick.

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  • I always pray for the president... whoever he is.
  • LOL @ fearful for our safety. Let me tell you something. A war mongering president who overturns the Geneva convention and makes your nation one of the most despised internationally because of its disrespect for UN conventions is what should have been scaring you.

    A president who is planning on making international relations a priority should make you feel safer.

    ALso wtf has bush done for unborn babies? Do you seriously think people will be running to clinics in mass #'s now that Obama is in the seat?

    I don't get your logic and honestly you seem very unfortunately uninformed.

  • imagelanie26:

    LOL @ fearful for our safety. Let me tell you something. A war mongering president who overturns the Geneva convention and makes your nation one of the most despised internationally because of its disrespect for UN conventions is what should have been scaring you.

    A president who is planning on making international relations a priority should make you feel safer.

    ALso wtf has bush done for unborn babies? Do you seriously think people will be running to clinics in mass #'s now that Obama is in the seat?

    I don't get your logic and honestly you seem very unfortunately uninformed.

    As usual, I PPH Lanie. This OP is absolutely ridiculous. You make it sound like Obama is going to go door to door and preform abortions himself. Get your facts straight, eduacate yourself ... otherwise, stop pooing out your mouth.

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  • imagelanie26:

    LOL @ fearful for our safety. Let me tell you something. A war mongering president who overturns the Geneva convention and makes your nation one of the most despised internationally because of its disrespect for UN conventions is what should have been scaring you.

    A president who is planning on making international relations a priority should make you feel safer.

    ALso wtf has bush done for unborn babies? Do you seriously think people will be running to clinics in mass #'s now that Obama is in the seat?

    I don't get your logic and honestly you seem very unfortunately uninformed.

    Agreed!  This country is looked down on by so many other countries now given how we've been operating and disregarding the international community -- this all happened in the last 8 years.  I will feel more safe once we're back to respecting other countries and the UN, something I think Obama will help with.  If we don't change this soon, I believe we will fall.  All great nations eventually do (Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, Hun, etc.).

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  • imagelanie26:

    LOL @ fearful for our safety. Let me tell you something. A war mongering president who overturns the Geneva convention and makes your nation one of the most despised internationally because of its disrespect for UN conventions is what should have been scaring you.

    A president who is planning on making international relations a priority should make you feel safer.

    ALso wtf has bush done for unborn babies? Do you seriously think people will be running to clinics in mass #'s now that Obama is in the seat?

    I don't get your logic and honestly you seem very unfortunately uninformed.

    Couldn't say it any better.

  • While I think your post is over the top, I was a McCain supporter. The only thing we can do is support the new president elect and thank the good lord that the dems didn't get the filibuster-proof senate they were hoping for. THAT would have been a disaster.
  • imagelanie26:

    LOL @ fearful for our safety. Let me tell you something. A war mongering president who overturns the Geneva convention and makes your nation one of the most despised internationally because of its disrespect for UN conventions is what should have been scaring you.

    A president who is planning on making international relations a priority should make you feel safer.

    ALso wtf has bush done for unborn babies? Do you seriously think people will be running to clinics in mass #'s now that Obama is in the seat?

    I don't get your logic and honestly you seem very unfortunately uninformed.

    lanie FTW, as usual.  Thread over.

  • I'd like to say that I am very excited to see how our nations will work together moving forward. And I'm excited about a president who will not call our nation "weak" for not following yours into war despite the fact that our troops are still cleaning up in Afghanistan.

    I respect the US. I think it is a wonderful country, but I am excited about a US leader who can find a sentence without a flashlight and a map and one that approaches the world with awareness and respect.

  • imageLittleMamaB:
    While I think your post is over the top, I was a McCain supporter. The only thing we can do is support the new president elect and thank the good lord that the dems didn't get the filibuster-proof senate they were hoping for. THAT would have been a disaster.

     Agreed.  It's only 4 years, and it's going to feel much longer if we don't support our elected president.  I think Obama is a good man, but I don't agree with many of his ideas, so I hope that he can be kept in check by Congress.

  • To those on the "other side"....why not give him the chance to do well and then if he doesn't say I told you so? Why go into the next four years with dread? Be hopeful. An American population that is united is stronger than the office alone.

    And yes, I would feel this way had my guy not been elected. This is just how I look at life. Maybe he will be a good president, maybe he won't, but until he is in the office no one (including those who voted him) knows how he will do. He may just surprise us all and it's for the benefit of our country for him to. I give people a chance and my respect until they do something to lose it. And if they do something to gain it back again then I will give them my support again.

    One example, I thought Michelle Obama was a negative for Obama. I thought she said things that were questionable and she really bugged me for much of the past 2 years. But as I watched her, I decided that she was an extremely classy woman who has what it takes to be the first lady.

    I know how it feels for someone I support to lose. It hurts deep down. It makes you sick to your stomach. But I truly do hope that by January, our country will unite around these men. They need it and so do we.

  • imageKristenS04:

      All we can do is pray that he won't screw things up too much and that in four years he will be voted out. 

     

    I don't things can get any more screwed up than they already are.

  • The problem with the abortion thing is that it allows partial - birth abortion.  I don't actually think either candidate was a good choice for our country at this time. However, I agree, McCain wouldn't have stopped "Choice" , just as Bush didn't. It will not happen in this day and age. But read below the descrption of the law. It's disgusting and there should be SOME limits on abortion.

    Bill Clinton frustrated the will of the U.S. Congress by refusing to sign legislation outlawing partial-birth abortion. Even though this procedure means - just before a full delivery - puncturing the head of the infant so that the brains may be suctioned out,Obama, as an assemblyman in Illinois, took the same position here as the Clintons did: in favor of this grim procedure
     
    Worse still, Obama strongly spoke out in opposition to legislation to disallow abortionists from putting to death infants who survived a first attempt at abortion. At the federal level,this legislation was called the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, protecting the human infant born alive despite a vigorous attempt to kill her in the womb.

    One of the very first items that Senator Obama has promised he will do if elected to office will be to pass and sign into law the Freedom of Choice Act.  This is a promise that many campaigning candidates are making to pro-abortion groups and the Hollywood elite.
     
    To understand the severity and barbarism of this bill we ask that you inform yourselves about what is at stake.  Even a little baby who is born alive after a "botched"abortion will not be allowed to live!  Instead, they will be discarded and left to die without any assistance or medical attention if the abortionist so determines.  The horrific abortion procedure termed "partial-birth-abortion," which was recently banned by legislators will become a federal right once again.
     

  • Amymarie you crack me up. That procedure does not exist. That is an email forward and nothing more. Please do some legitimate research. There is no such thing as a full term infant having their brains suctioned out.

    That is absurd and a slam at your intellect.

  • imagelanie26:

    Amymarie you crack me up. That procedure does not exist. That is an email forward and nothing more. Please do some legitimate research. There is no such thing as a full term infant having their brains suctioned out.

    That is absurd and a slam at your intellect.

     

    Lanie.  Show me proof.  I have done my research... (https://www.abortionfacts.com/partial_birth/partial_birth.asp)

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  • lanie, you're sick if that cracks you up and you're in denial and naive if you think it doesn't happen. Where is YOUR research?
  • Things could not be more screwed up than they are today after 8 years of an idiot in office.  Today the future looks brighter than it ever has.  No praying is needed bc it can only get better from here.
  • The "it can only get better from here" mentality drives me batshit crazy. That is one of the most untrue statements anyone can make. Things could be a lot worse for our country. I'm not an Obama supporter and I hope I end up being wrong about him because I'd rather be wrong and have our nation in a good place than to be right and our nation going farther in the shitter...which is possible. I say this in reference to the state of our nation as a whole...not a slam on Obama. Just saying that no matter who is in the White Houe, things could definitely get worse.
  • You are quoting abortion facts.com? Really?

    Can you please get me a medical journal source. Not a google source that even sites the term partial birth abortion. These procedures do not exist. Babies are delivered early if there are huge risks to the mother. But they are given life sustaining assistance.

    The term "partial birth abortion" does not exist outside of the US because it is non existant. it does not happen. no one is sucking baby brains out. Please stop throwing around email forwards and right wing religious nutjob websites as "evidence."

    I'm asking you to research medical and legal information about what happens to women who are very ill and need to birth early. :) Because partial birth abortions don't happen at 8 months.!

    Good luck in your search my dears!

  • I heart Lanie

    The ONLY factor that can act to reduce the numbers of abortions in this country is medically accurate, comprehensive sex education and expanded access to contraceptives.  With the election of Obama this is going to happen.  Ending the legality of abortion does NOT 'save babies'. Sure, there may be women who are forced to keep fetuses they did not want or are not able to take care of but many, many women would seek abortions in dangerous ways.  Throughout history the numbers of abortions performed are markedly similar regardless of whether abortion was legal or not. Clearly, simply making abortion illegal does nothing to end the issue.  Education is the key!  THAT would have gone down the drain under McCain and Palin.

  • imagelanie26:

    LOL @ fearful for our safety. Let me tell you something. A war mongering president who overturns the Geneva convention and makes your nation one of the most despised internationally because of its disrespect for UN conventions is what should have been scaring you.

    A president who is planning on making international relations a priority should make you feel safer.

    ALso wtf has bush done for unborn babies? Do you seriously think people will be running to clinics in mass #'s now that Obama is in the seat?

    I don't get your logic and honestly you seem very unfortunately uninformed.

    Amen to that! I was thinking the same thing- it's not as if everyone's going to run to abortion clinics all of a sudden. We're not on a hunt to find babies to kill now that Obama is the president-elect.?

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