i'm sure that different women will use the board differently to suit their needs. maybe they have made a home here for a long period of time while they tried to have a baby and don't want to leave, but need a board to support them?
i'm glad the board is here for them and i'm happy for you that you will never need to post here.
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i'm sure that different women will use the board differently to suit their needs. maybe they have made a home here for a long period of time while they tried to have a baby and don't want to leave, but need a board to support them?
i'm glad the board is here for them and i'm happy for you that you will never need to post here.
i get this, but they couldn't come up with a better name?? i was being honest in asking, not snarky.
"Sometimes I am two people. Johnny is the nice one. Cash causes all the trouble. They fight." - Johnny Cash
i'm sure that different women will use the board differently to suit their needs. maybe they have made a home here for a long period of time while they tried to have a baby and don't want to leave, but need a board to support them?
i'm glad the board is here for them and i'm happy for you that you will never need to post here.
i get this, but they couldn't come up with a better name?? i was being honest in asking, not snarky.
i am not going to apologize for being pregnant, or feed into any snarky answers.
thank you for the link, i didn't understand the difference or the need for this board from the others that already exist and that post explains it perfectly. i know for a fact that i am not the only one that questioned this board and now others will know its purpose as well.
"Sometimes I am two people. Johnny is the nice one. Cash causes all the trouble. They fight." - Johnny Cash
well sugar, i guess the women who plan to frequent this board are just going to have to constantly justify their need for it. so sad. i really don't see why anyone cares what someone else needs in terms of support. ::shrugs::
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Just passing through here lurking. There were a lot of comments on multiple boards about the intent/ content of this board. Just plain ol curiosity when we saw a new board pop up. Not sure about the op's intent or wording . Not that my opinion matters but I'm all about finding a community/board that works for you. ....back to lurking ...
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This board will likely be the home of some who have had a "bump" and lost it in a heartbreaking way. They may, by choice or by circumstance, never have another bump, regardless of how much they want one (and the baby that goes with it, of course). It doesn't change the fact that they could have already been present on The Bump.
I like that it's here. I came to see if there was a description of it, for my own curiosity. I'm sure others who find themselves childless will also find a home on this board, but what I wrote above is how I imagine some people will find their way here. I have a couple friends in this situation; one can never conceive again and another chooses not to. It doesn't change the fact that they live with the desire to have a baby. I hope that women in these situations can form a close community here without ridicule.
I think anyone who questions the "need" for a board who doesnt need it is always going to get oposition. Like the women who pop over to TTCAL and the IF boards and say "have you tried getting drunk and having sex it worked for me!" we geth that you did/have/tried/experienced that but so have we and it didnt work so please dont remind us about it... KWIM?
I'm curious as well, since I'm a mod and various people have asked me about it on my moderated board as well as others.
I'm just curious as to what people here plan to talk about. Living a child-free life? Venting about pregnant people? Again, not being snarky. Once you've made the decision to end treatment I'm not sure what there is left to discuss.
I'm all for the board if there is a significant # of people who want it (which there must be because you got the Bump to set up the new board). I know there have been a ton of questions about it on multiple boards, so I think people are just trying to get a feel for it. Heck, we may even be sending people over here if we think it's a good place for them to hang out.
The purpose is for people who do not have children and likely will not, they were given a different path that they would not have chose, if given the choice. Everyone who would be coming here wants and wanted children but for whatever reason have not been able to have them.
And, how could there not be anything left to discuss? Is there never life after not having children? I know several of the women who would be on the board and I know that there is heartbreak that they need someone to talk to about. Also, maybe just everyday life is something they will wish to talk about because I know that the boards are not just about having children, I've seen much more talk.
I don't really understand the problem with the board, if people don't like it, pass it over.
DD(9)DD(5.5)DS(3)DS(born 2/1/11) July 2006, lost a baby at 8 weeks, natural miscarriage , May 2009 lost Zoe Eliana at 17 weeks no reason known, possible under developed organs. Lost two more babies in September 2009 at 7 wks 4 days. Had myomectomy surgery to remove a large fibroid in November 2009.
PP said it best. It can be a support for people who have had heartbreaking losses or are finding peace with IF. Questioning the purpose is seemingly insensitive. Posting with large siggies of children may be deemed even more so. In other words, allow this to be a place of support. If you have some to offer, please do. If not, find something more productive to do!
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I will never understand why people question the need for certain boards, just because they themselves are not the target audience. Talk about not being able to see outside yourself... I would imagine this will be just like every other internet board ever created, where people in similar circumstances come to share and kvetch about their lives. There are a lot of women who come to the bump (or the knot) and make friends thinking they will be able to have kids (by whatever means) and when it doesn't work out for them (for whatever reason) they are left without the social outlets the rest of us enjoy.
FWIW, the board name was chosen by the ppl who requested the board, it is the preferred name vs. "childless" and contrary to a post I saw on another board, children will not be given away here for free...
TTK 9/06 / TTC 10/08 / Twins 12/11 / Life Blog 5 REs + 3 surgical hysteroscopies for septum/lap + 3 failed IUIs IVF w/ICSI/AH & acu = BFP!, unexplained spontaneous m/c @ 8w2d (our little girl), FET w/acu = BFP!, B/G twins!, lost MP @19w, dx w/funneling cervix @20w, twins nearly lost to IC @21w, saved by rescue cerclage, 17P & 16w of bedrest Our twins born @36w4d via CS when A came foot first
I will never understand why people question the need for certain boards, just because they themselves are not the target audience. Talk about not being able to see outside yourself... I would imagine this will be just every other internet board ever created, where people in similar circumstances come to share and kvetch about their lives. There are a lot of women who come to the bump (or the knot) and make friends thinking they will be able to have kids (by whatever means) and when it doesn't work out for them (for whatever reason) they are left without the social outlets the rest of us enjoy.
FWIW, the board name was chosen by the ppl who requested the board, it is the preferred name vs. "childless" and contrary to a post I saw on another board, children will not be given away here for free...
actually it is seeing outside yourself and beyond to those that differ in their circumstances and life choices. i was simply curious about the purpose of the board, as are a lot of others. i was not meaning to be insensitive with my wording, being very direct is just my nature.
and i will never understand the lack of support in women in general--pregnant, not pregnant, adopting, fertility treatments---ALL women need support and understanding not just those currently having trouble. it is a difficult road for all of us and NONE of us should have to apologize for our lives or for the lives of our children.
"Sometimes I am two people. Johnny is the nice one. Cash causes all the trouble. They fight." - Johnny Cash
I just wanted to throw this out there: Back in January, before we started our 4th and what we knew was going to be our final IVF attempt, I searched and scoured the internet for a board just like this. It wasn't that we were out of money for treatments, or didn't want to pursue DE or adoption. It was that we just didn't have the emotional endurance to do any of it anymore, and just wanted to move on with our lives. I needed to know how to cope being "childless, not by choice." I don't know anyone IRL who was facing what I felt I was facing. Trust me, there would have been plenty to discuss. Choosing to not move on with treatments or move forward with adoption doesn't mean one doesn't need support anymore, believe me.
I don't know why I was able to get pregnant when there are tons of super ladies on other boards who have worked harder and been through more than me, but it makes me happy to see that there is a place for people to go to for support when the decision is made to move on. I could have easily been one of the ladies requesting this board, and I guess that's why I am trying to justify it.
Also, I know that there are also women out there who may have wanted children, but married someone who doesn't feel the same way. OK - their decision, right? Sure, they chose their spouse over having children, but that doesn't mean that they are automatically over the fact that they are living childless. Maybe years later they regret the decision? Maybe there are circumstances where a couple can't have children, but it isn't based on infertility?
I think that this board is a much needed outlet for people who don't have a lot of other places to go to online or in real life for support. Go bump!
TTC Child #1 Sept '08, Dx: Unexplained, DOR
2 IUI's = BFN, m/c, IVF 1 = 0 embies to put back, IVF 2 = BFN, IVF 3 = cancelled, IVF 4 = BFP with 1 embie. Our son came into our life on 9/28/11. We are in love!
I am part of the target audience and have a hard time seeing past what the board actually is- yet another small group of people who became efriends and instead of creating a private board somewhere they petitioned the bump for another board. I'm also curious as to what the topic of conversations will be because I imagine "I can't believe so and so said this horrible thing about not having kids to me" and "everyone has kids but me" will get old after awhile. I get it, childless sucks- I don't get how having a message board dedicated solely to it helps. Misery begets misery. Go ask the ingender chicks.
Fuuck TTC - I'm moving on.
"It's a child, not a cheeto" Thanks mmariluh!
"Ew. I've read all of two posts from you, and you stink like rotting garbage."
I will never understand why people question the need for certain boards, just because they themselves are not the target audience. Talk about not being able to see outside yourself... I would imagine this will be just every other internet board ever created, where people in similar circumstances come to share and kvetch about their lives. There are a lot of women who come to the bump (or the knot) and make friends thinking they will be able to have kids (by whatever means) and when it doesn't work out for them (for whatever reason) they are left without the social outlets the rest of us enjoy.
FWIW, the board name was chosen by the ppl who requested the board, it is the preferred name vs. "childless" and contrary to a post I saw on another board, children will not be given away here for free...
actually it is seeing outside yourself and beyond to those that differ in their circumstances and life choices. i was simply curious about the purpose of the board, as are a lot of others. i was not meaning to be insensitive with my wording, being very direct is just my nature.
and i will never understand the lack of support in women in general--pregnant, not pregnant, adopting, fertility treatments---ALL women need support and understanding not just those currently having trouble. it is a difficult road for all of us and NONE of us should have to apologize for our lives or for the lives of our children.
Ummm...I don't recall seeing a post where someone asked you to apologize
TTC 12/2009 Me: 32 - Stage II Endo / DH: 36 - Low count and morphology (1%) IUIs 1-3 BFN, lap Dec. 2010, IUIs 4-6 BFN IVF w/ICSI #1 - ER 2/8: 24R 19M 9F ET 2/13 2-5 day blasts (no frosties) = BFP - b/g twins! E & C Born 10/19/2012
I just wanted to throw this out there: Back in January, before we started our 4th and what we knew was going to be our final IVF attempt, I searched and scoured the internet for a board just like this. It wasn't that we were out of money for treatments, or didn't want to pursue DE or adoption. It was that we just didn't have the emotional endurance to do any of it anymore, and just wanted to move on with our lives. I needed to know how to cope being "childless, not by choice." I don't know anyone IRL who was facing what I felt I was facing. Trust me, there would have been plenty to discuss. Choosing to not move on with treatments or move forward with adoption doesn't mean one doesn't need support anymore, believe me.
I don't know why I was able to get pregnant when there are tons of super ladies on other boards who have worked harder and been through more than me, but it makes me happy to see that there is a place for people to go to for support when the decision is made to move on. I could have easily been one of the ladies requesting this board, and I guess that's why I am trying to justify it.
Also, I know that there are also women out there who may have wanted children, but married someone who doesn't feel the same way. OK - their decision, right? Sure, they chose their spouse over having children, but that doesn't mean that they are automatically over the fact that they are living childless. Maybe years later they regret the decision? Maybe there are circumstances where a couple can't have children, but it isn't based on infertility?
I think that this board is a much needed outlet for people who don't have a lot of other places to go to online or in real life for support. Go bump!
That is the purpose not as Mandy so snarkily said "e-friends to be e-friends" and be miserable. There are people on many boards who dearly want children but just can't for one reason or another. This is the place where they can share there resources and stories. Why is that so hard to understand? There was a point that I thought I would be a part of this group and I would have wanted a community that would be willing to share their experiences as well.
Forever buddy to Angelica; Natural Miscarriage Jan. 2008 @ 11 weeks; 2 years of BFFN's; DX: Unexplained IF (RE thinks IF is due to tubal issues); IUI #1 & 2= BFFN; IUI#3 = BFP, resulted in Cornual ectopic pregnancy; IUI #4 - 6 =BFFN; Our next endeavor... IVF. 1 grade AA embryo transferred on 4-23-2011 and 5 frosties. BFP Abby born 1/5/2012
I will never understand why people question the need for certain boards, just because they themselves are not the target audience. Talk about not being able to see outside yourself... I would imagine this will be just every other internet board ever created, where people in similar circumstances come to share and kvetch about their lives. There are a lot of women who come to the bump (or the knot) and make friends thinking they will be able to have kids (by whatever means) and when it doesn't work out for them (for whatever reason) they are left without the social outlets the rest of us enjoy.
FWIW, the board name was chosen by the ppl who requested the board, it is the preferred name vs. "childless" and contrary to a post I saw on another board, children will not be given away here for free...
actually it is seeing outside yourself and beyond to those that differ in their circumstances and life choices. i was simply curious about the purpose of the board, as are a lot of others. i was not meaning to be insensitive with my wording, being very direct is just my nature.
and i will never understand the lack of support in women in general--pregnant, not pregnant, adopting, fertility treatments---ALL women need support and understanding not just those currently having trouble. it is a difficult road for all of us and NONE of us should have to apologize for our lives or for the lives of our children.
I'm sorry we stand corrected, you aren't insensitive, just slow apparently... I agree all women need support, but those who are not able to have children (either w/o help or ever) arguably need a bit more than those who have siggies like yours. Best of luck to you.
TTK 9/06 / TTC 10/08 / Twins 12/11 / Life Blog 5 REs + 3 surgical hysteroscopies for septum/lap + 3 failed IUIs IVF w/ICSI/AH & acu = BFP!, unexplained spontaneous m/c @ 8w2d (our little girl), FET w/acu = BFP!, B/G twins!, lost MP @19w, dx w/funneling cervix @20w, twins nearly lost to IC @21w, saved by rescue cerclage, 17P & 16w of bedrest Our twins born @36w4d via CS when A came foot first
I will never understand why people question the need for certain boards, just because they themselves are not the target audience. Talk about not being able to see outside yourself... I would imagine this will be just every other internet board ever created, where people in similar circumstances come to share and kvetch about their lives. There are a lot of women who come to the bump (or the knot) and make friends thinking they will be able to have kids (by whatever means) and when it doesn't work out for them (for whatever reason) they are left without the social outlets the rest of us enjoy.
FWIW, the board name was chosen by the ppl who requested the board, it is the preferred name vs. "childless" and contrary to a post I saw on another board, children will not be given away here for free...
actually it is seeing outside yourself and beyond to those that differ in their circumstances and life choices. i was simply curious about the purpose of the board, as are a lot of others. i was not meaning to be insensitive with my wording, being very direct is just my nature.
and i will never understand the lack of support in women in general--pregnant, not pregnant, adopting, fertility treatments---ALL women need support and understanding not just those currently having trouble. it is a difficult road for all of us and NONE of us should have to apologize for our lives or for the lives of our children.
I'm sorry we stand corrected, you aren't insensitive, just slow apparently... I agree all women need support, but those who are not able to have children (either w/o help or ever) arguably need a bit more than those who have siggies like yours. Best of luck to you.
says you....you don't know my life or the lives of others just by looking at their siggies. not everyone chooses to list their TTC history in their siggy. but thanks for coming back at me with more snark. best of luck to you too.
"Sometimes I am two people. Johnny is the nice one. Cash causes all the trouble. They fight." - Johnny Cash
I am part of the target audience and have a hard time seeing past what the board actually is- yet another small group of people who became efriends and instead of creating a private board somewhere they petitioned the bump for another board. I'm also curious as to what the topic of conversations will be because I imagine "I can't believe so and so said this horrible thing about not having kids to me" and "everyone has kids but me" will get old after awhile. I get it, childless sucks- I don't get how having a message board dedicated solely to it helps. Misery begets misery. Go ask the ingender chicks.
No one is going to make you post here if you don't want to, thankfully. I was skeptical of the IF vets board as well (which I know all of Snarky was against), and it turned out to be exactly what a lot of us needed. BTW, I am totally anti-clique on the TB and don't understand why you think every new board should be private. Like Snarky is some open arms forum...
TTK 9/06 / TTC 10/08 / Twins 12/11 / Life Blog 5 REs + 3 surgical hysteroscopies for septum/lap + 3 failed IUIs IVF w/ICSI/AH & acu = BFP!, unexplained spontaneous m/c @ 8w2d (our little girl), FET w/acu = BFP!, B/G twins!, lost MP @19w, dx w/funneling cervix @20w, twins nearly lost to IC @21w, saved by rescue cerclage, 17P & 16w of bedrest Our twins born @36w4d via CS when A came foot first
I will never understand why people question the need for certain boards, just because they themselves are not the target audience. Talk about not being able to see outside yourself... I would imagine this will be just every other internet board ever created, where people in similar circumstances come to share and kvetch about their lives. There are a lot of women who come to the bump (or the knot) and make friends thinking they will be able to have kids (by whatever means) and when it doesn't work out for them (for whatever reason) they are left without the social outlets the rest of us enjoy.
FWIW, the board name was chosen by the ppl who requested the board, it is the preferred name vs. "childless" and contrary to a post I saw on another board, children will not be given away here for free...
actually it is seeing outside yourself and beyond to those that differ in their circumstances and life choices. i was simply curious about the purpose of the board, as are a lot of others. i was not meaning to be insensitive with my wording, being very direct is just my nature.
and i will never understand the lack of support in women in general--pregnant, not pregnant, adopting, fertility treatments---ALL women need support and understanding not just those currently having trouble. it is a difficult road for all of us and NONE of us should have to apologize for our lives or for the lives of our children.
I'm sorry we stand corrected, you aren't insensitive, just slow apparently... I agree all women need support, but those who are not able to have children (either w/o help or ever) arguably need a bit more than those who have siggies like yours. Best of luck to you.
says you....you don't know my life or the lives of others just by looking at their siggies. not everyone chooses to list their TTC history in their siggy. but thanks for coming back at me with more snark. best of luck to you too.
You're right, I don't know you, it's a judgement call based on "I'm so crafty, I make people" and the giant fetus in your siggie. I'm still very much in the weeds, and having your TTC history in your siggie is expected on the IF boards (which are why I came to TB). The purpose of one's siggie, as I undertand it, is to give ppl some insight into you...
TTK 9/06 / TTC 10/08 / Twins 12/11 / Life Blog 5 REs + 3 surgical hysteroscopies for septum/lap + 3 failed IUIs IVF w/ICSI/AH & acu = BFP!, unexplained spontaneous m/c @ 8w2d (our little girl), FET w/acu = BFP!, B/G twins!, lost MP @19w, dx w/funneling cervix @20w, twins nearly lost to IC @21w, saved by rescue cerclage, 17P & 16w of bedrest Our twins born @36w4d via CS when A came foot first
I am part of the target audience and have a hard time seeing past what the board actually is- yet another small group of people who became efriends and instead of creating a private board somewhere they petitioned the bump for another board. I'm also curious as to what the topic of conversations will be because I imagine "I can't believe so and so said this horrible thing about not having kids to me" and "everyone has kids but me" will get old after awhile. I get it, childless sucks- I don't get how having a message board dedicated solely to it helps. Misery begets misery. Go ask the ingender chicks.
No one is going to make you post here if you don't want to, thankfully. I was skeptical of the IF vets board as well (which I know all of Snarky was against), and it turned out to be exactly what a lot of us needed. BTW, I am totally anti-clique on the TB and don't understand why you think every new board should be private. Like Snarky is some open arms forum...
Snarky is very open arms but if you haven't noticed- there are so many boards that not many people post on some of them. There are at least five IF boards.
I don't think every new board should be private but when it is obviously one small group of people who instead of finding a place to talk to each other on their own they add yet another board to this clusterfuuck of a site.
I do have to laugh at the fact that you are anticlique but think "the IF vets board turned out to be exactly what a lot of us needed"- a board that has a set of prerequisites that are pretty ridiculous.
Fuuck TTC - I'm moving on.
"It's a child, not a cheeto" Thanks mmariluh!
"Ew. I've read all of two posts from you, and you stink like rotting garbage."
I will never understand why people question the need for certain boards, just because they themselves are not the target audience. Talk about not being able to see outside yourself... I would imagine this will be just every other internet board ever created, where people in similar circumstances come to share and kvetch about their lives. There are a lot of women who come to the bump (or the knot) and make friends thinking they will be able to have kids (by whatever means) and when it doesn't work out for them (for whatever reason) they are left without the social outlets the rest of us enjoy.
FWIW, the board name was chosen by the ppl who requested the board, it is the preferred name vs. "childless" and contrary to a post I saw on another board, children will not be given away here for free...
actually it is seeing outside yourself and beyond to those that differ in their circumstances and life choices. i was simply curious about the purpose of the board, as are a lot of others. i was not meaning to be insensitive with my wording, being very direct is just my nature.
and i will never understand the lack of support in women in general--pregnant, not pregnant, adopting, fertility treatments---ALL women need support and understanding not just those currently having trouble. it is a difficult road for all of us and NONE of us should have to apologize for our lives or for the lives of our children.
I'm sorry we stand corrected, you aren't insensitive, just slow apparently... I agree all women need support, but those who are not able to have children (either w/o help or ever) arguably need a bit more than those who have siggies like yours. Best of luck to you.
says you....you don't know my life or the lives of others just by looking at their siggies. not everyone chooses to list their TTC history in their siggy. but thanks for coming back at me with more snark. best of luck to you too.
You're right, I don't know you, it's a judgement call based on "I'm so crafty, I make people" and the giant fetus in your siggie. I'm still very much in the weeds, and having your TTC history in your siggie is expected on the IF boards (which are why I came to TB). The purpose of one's siggie, as I undertand it, is to give ppl some insight into you...
that badge is a joke, apparently you didn't see the humor in it. but you are admitting to judging me based on my siggy. good to know. so you just proved my point but i am the one that is slow.....ooooookay. like i said...best of luck to you.
"Sometimes I am two people. Johnny is the nice one. Cash causes all the trouble. They fight." - Johnny Cash
that badge is a joke, apparently you didn't see the humor in it. but you are admitting to judging me based on my siggy. good to know. so you just proved my point but i am the one that is slow.....ooooookay. like i said...best of luck to you.
Jokes are funny. That badge is just smug. And no one is fooled by my "you don't know what I've been through" nonsense. Perhaps you could kindly share the hard story of your struggles?
Alright, backing out...Neither of us belong here, and I really hope that those who do can soon talk to each other here in peace.
I would say that the first purpose of this board is that the fruitful post ticker warnings so I don't have to look at those awful fetus pictures.
I don't know if we'll be child-free forever, but it's beginning to look like that may be the case. I see this as a place where girls can come if they are going to be child-free for the foreseeable future, and not because they want to be.
I was just curious as I saw the new board as well. I think it is a fantastic idea. All ladies who have come to the bump have done so with the love of children in mind. I'm all for new places that foster relationship building and information sharing. I commend the bump for adding this new board.
Asher Thomas 5.19.10
Miles Edmund 12.29.11
Liam Robert 1.21.14
Baby 4...ok probably another boy here haha 9.20.15
well sugar, i guess the women who plan to frequent this board are just going to have to constantly justify their need for it. so sad. i really don't see why anyone cares what someone else needs in terms of support. ::shrugs::
I've ready many, many times that the Bump is not for support. It's entertainment, pure and simple. If you really feel that there is no hope for you to have a biological child or adoption/fostering is not an answer either, I don't even know why you would be on the Bump. I personally would find it to be too painful to be posting on a site that is devoted exclusively towards TTC and children.
ETA: There is a board called BNOTB on the Nest. I've never really lurked there, but wouldn't that be an alternative place to post?
well sugar, i guess the women who plan to frequent this board are just going to have to constantly justify their need for it. so sad. i really don't see why anyone cares what someone else needs in terms of support. ::shrugs::
I've ready many, many times that the Bump is not for support. It's entertainment, pure and simple. If you really feel that there is no hope for you to have a biological child or adoption/fostering is not an answer either, I don't even know why you would be on the Bump. I personally would find it to be too painful to be posting on a site that is devoted exclusively towards TTC and children.
ETA: There is a board called BNOTB on the Nest. I've never really lurked there, but wouldn't that be an alternative place to post?
I can only speak for myself to say that I would have never in my life made it through my miscarriages without the support of the ladies on the bump. I'm eternally grateful for them and will always sing their praises. It was never entertainment for me but a life line to sanity. I neither have visited the BNOTB board but I've got to venture and believe that the ladies on that board would have a different set of life experiences than those that have tried and are child free not by choice. As it was not by choice, these strong women have had BOTB for a long time.
Asher Thomas 5.19.10
Miles Edmund 12.29.11
Liam Robert 1.21.14
Baby 4...ok probably another boy here haha 9.20.15
PP said it best. It can be a support for people who have had heartbreaking losses or are finding peace with IF. Questioning the purpose is seemingly insensitive. Posting with large siggies of children may be deemed even more so. In other words, allow this to be a place of support. If you have some to offer, please do. If not, find something more productive to do!
good answer. Some people will never get it. If you dont get it, just stay off the board. We don't come on your boards asking what's the purpose.
well sugar, i guess the women who plan to frequent this board are just going to have to constantly justify their need for it. so sad. i really don't see why anyone cares what someone else needs in terms of support. ::shrugs::
I've ready many, many times that the Bump is not for support. It's entertainment, pure and simple. If you really feel that there is no hope for you to have a biological child or adoption/fostering is not an answer either, I don't even know why you would be on the Bump. I personally would find it to be too painful to be posting on a site that is devoted exclusively towards TTC and children.
ETA: There is a board called BNOTB on the Nest. I've never really lurked there, but wouldn't that be an alternative place to post?
You are a Pot Stirrer AE. Not cool. And if you had listened to the debates on the boards you would know that this board is different then BNOTB- where many people still post and get oopss BFPs.
Forever buddy to Angelica; Natural Miscarriage Jan. 2008 @ 11 weeks; 2 years of BFFN's; DX: Unexplained IF (RE thinks IF is due to tubal issues); IUI #1 & 2= BFFN; IUI#3 = BFP, resulted in Cornual ectopic pregnancy; IUI #4 - 6 =BFFN; Our next endeavor... IVF. 1 grade AA embryo transferred on 4-23-2011 and 5 frosties. BFP Abby born 1/5/2012
well sugar, i guess the women who plan to frequent this board are just going to have to constantly justify their need for it. so sad. i really don't see why anyone cares what someone else needs in terms of support. ::shrugs::
I've ready many, many times that the Bump is not for support. It's entertainment, pure and simple. If you really feel that there is no hope for you to have a biological child or adoption/fostering is not an answer either, I don't even know why you would be on the Bump. I personally would find it to be too painful to be posting on a site that is devoted exclusively towards TTC and children.
ETA: There is a board called BNOTB on the Nest. I've never really lurked there, but wouldn't that be an alternative place to post?
You are a Pot Stirrer AE. Not cool. And if you had listened to the debates on the boards you would know that this board is different then BNOTB- where many people still post and get oopss BFPs.
I'm not an AE. I have a job where I can lurk a lot but not post. But whatever, you're pregnant and I'm not, so you win. My SN is a reflection of the way I really feel, not to pretend I am someone I am not. I think a lot of people on here are bitter, are wretched, and are hopefully women. I am what I am.
Because unlike probably 99% of the people in this post (and I find it extremely irritating that almost ALL of you are pregnant and throwing in your $.02, simply because you "have had issues"), I probably belong here. I don't put my history in my siggy because I am not comfortable with it just sort of sitting out there for all to gawk at.
I'm not an AE. I have a job where I can lurk a lot but not post. But whatever, you're pregnant and I'm not, so you win. My SN is a reflection of the way I really feel, not to pretend I am someone I am not. I think a lot of people on here are bitter, are wretched, and are hopefully women. I am what I am.
Because unlike probably 99% of the people in this post (and I find it extremely irritating that almost ALL of you are pregnant and throwing in your $.02, simply because you "have had issues"), I probably belong here. I don't put my history in my siggy because I am not comfortable with it just sort of sitting out there for all to gawk at.
Is this Gracie? I have seen you post on other boards right after drama or with drama to keep it going- thus calling you a pot stirrer.
And yes, I might be KU for now, but that does not = a baby nor does it mean I will ever forget the years I spent struggling, before shelling out $20k+ for a possible chance of a baby. Nor does it mean I will stop supporting those I know who are facing a child free life, not by choice- thus the choice to not have a blasted ticker or u/s pic.
Forever buddy to Angelica; Natural Miscarriage Jan. 2008 @ 11 weeks; 2 years of BFFN's; DX: Unexplained IF (RE thinks IF is due to tubal issues); IUI #1 & 2= BFFN; IUI#3 = BFP, resulted in Cornual ectopic pregnancy; IUI #4 - 6 =BFFN; Our next endeavor... IVF. 1 grade AA embryo transferred on 4-23-2011 and 5 frosties. BFP Abby born 1/5/2012
It makes me sad that a board that was created as a sort of sanctuary for a group of wonderful women has been tarnished already by a bunch of a$$holes' snark. Why would a FH need to question a board name that doesn't even remotely pertain to them?
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It makes me sad that a board that was created as a sort of sanctuary for a group of wonderful women has been tarnished already by a bunch of a$$holes' snark. Why would a FH need to question a board name that doesn't even remotely pertain to them?
this.
i have seen this board snarked/questioned on numerous boards, and quite frankly it pisses me off.
my question is - why do you think you have a right to question it's worthiness? just because you don't understand the name or don't like the purpose of the board does NOT put you in a place to judge.
leave these wonderful ladies alone, and i think it's pathetic that they are being questioned by people who have never been even close to their situations, and most haven't even experienced a loss. this should be a safe haven for these ladies, not a place for people to poke and make fun of them. they aren't here by choice, and i'm sure that every one of these ladies would give ANYTHING to not have to be here, but they are dealing with the cards they were dealt and i think it's time that all you snarkers leave them in peace to do so.
? BFP #1 EDD 10/18/2011. Twin Blighted Ovums 3/10/11. D&C on 3/11/11 ? ?BFP #2 5/19/2011 ? 9/1/2011 - it's a BOY!!! ? Jace Matthew born 1/23/12 ?
?BFP 6/21/2012 - EDD 3/5/2013 - natural MC 7/22/2012 at 7w ? ?BFP 10/24/2012 - EDD 6/26/2013, grow little one grow!?
I have a legitimate question. Will this board be accepting people with open arms, even if they are still seeing treatment? One of the biggest defenders of this board and posters so far, is still seeking treatment so isn't that kind of frowned upon here?
i'm sure there are tons of names that could have been for this board. what do you suggest?
As an equal opportunity lurker... I thought that maybe "Learning to Live Child-Free" could be a good name for this board.
Best of luck to all of you ladies.
I know I don't belong here, and to be honest, I saw the new board and didn't quite understand the name, so I lurked. I agree that "learning to live child-free" is a good name. I think that there might be less "harassment" too.
I wish you all the best with your journeys.
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I have a legitimate question. Will this board be accepting people with open arms, even if they are still seeing treatment? One of the biggest defenders of this board and posters so far, is still seeking treatment so isn't that kind of frowned upon here?
Ummm, no. please read the name of the board again. if you still don't understand the board and what it's for then slam your head into your computer 3 times and read the name of the board again. lather, rinse, repeat until you comprehend.
i'm not sure if you are referring to me or not as "one of the biggest defenders" but i do not plan to use this board as of now. we are still seeking treatments. if we stop treatments and decide that we are going to be "Child Free: Not By Choice" then i would gladly come here to get help at making peace with that difficult decision.
regardless of whether or not i use this board, i am still in support of it, and will defend it as long as i see fit.
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I have a legitimate question. Will this board be accepting people with open arms, even if they are still seeing treatment? One of the biggest defenders of this board and posters so far, is still seeking treatment so isn't that kind of frowned upon here?
Ummm, no. please read the name of the board again. if you still don't understand the board and what it's for then slam your head into your computer 3 times and read the name of the board again. lather, rinse, repeat until you comprehend.
i'm not sure if you are referring to me or not as "one of the biggest defenders" but i do not plan to use this board as of now. we are still seeking treatments. if we stop treatments and decide that we are going to be "Child Free: Not By Choice" then i would gladly come here to get help at making peace with that difficult decision.
regardless of whether or not i use this board, i am still in support of it, and will defend it as long as i see fit.
I agree. I am going to seek treatments once I am able to this Fall. There is no guarantee for me that it will work since we don't know yet if the partial ovary I have left will produce anything... I support this group and think TX77 has raised very valid points.
Me- 30
DH- 28
Actively charting and TTC since September 2010 although not using BC since May 2007
Laporatomy March 8th,2011
Stage IV Endometreosis officially diagnosed
Removal of right ovary and partial left ovary
Lupron Therapy began April 2011 and will continue for 6 months
IVF to follow the Lupron therapy
I have a legitimate question. Will this board be accepting people with open arms, even if they are still seeing treatment? One of the biggest defenders of this board and posters so far, is still seeking treatment so isn't that kind of frowned upon here?
Ummm, no. please read the name of the board again. if you still don't understand the board and what it's for then slam your head into your computer 3 times and read the name of the board again. lather, rinse, repeat until you comprehend.
i'm not sure if you are referring to me or not as "one of the biggest defenders" but i do not plan to use this board as of now. we are still seeking treatments. if we stop treatments and decide that we are going to be "Child Free: Not By Choice" then i would gladly come here to get help at making peace with that difficult decision.
regardless of whether or not i use this board, i am still in support of it, and will defend it as long as i see fit.
Ummm thanks for that but I CAN read, and I GET the description but it had appeared that you didn't. There is defending the board and then there is acting like you're queen bee here already. If you're not planning on using this board, then that's one thing, but it didn't appear that way.
Re: so what is the purpose of this board?
i'm sure that different women will use the board differently to suit their needs. maybe they have made a home here for a long period of time while they tried to have a baby and don't want to leave, but need a board to support them?
i'm glad the board is here for them and i'm happy for you that you will never need to post here.
i get this, but they couldn't come up with a better name?? i was being honest in asking, not snarky.
i'm sure there are tons of names that could have been for this board. what do you suggest?
i am not going to apologize for being pregnant, or feed into any snarky answers.
thank you for the link, i didn't understand the difference or the need for this board from the others that already exist and that post explains it perfectly. i know for a fact that i am not the only one that questioned this board and now others will know its purpose as well.
This board will likely be the home of some who have had a "bump" and lost it in a heartbreaking way. They may, by choice or by circumstance, never have another bump, regardless of how much they want one (and the baby that goes with it, of course). It doesn't change the fact that they could have already been present on The Bump.
I like that it's here. I came to see if there was a description of it, for my own curiosity. I'm sure others who find themselves childless will also find a home on this board, but what I wrote above is how I imagine some people will find their way here. I have a couple friends in this situation; one can never conceive again and another chooses not to. It doesn't change the fact that they live with the desire to have a baby. I hope that women in these situations can form a close community here without ridicule.
I'm curious as well, since I'm a mod and various people have asked me about it on my moderated board as well as others.
I'm just curious as to what people here plan to talk about. Living a child-free life? Venting about pregnant people? Again, not being snarky. Once you've made the decision to end treatment I'm not sure what there is left to discuss.
I'm all for the board if there is a significant # of people who want it (which there must be because you got the Bump to set up the new board). I know there have been a ton of questions about it on multiple boards, so I think people are just trying to get a feel for it. Heck, we may even be sending people over here if we think it's a good place for them to hang out.
The purpose is for people who do not have children and likely will not, they were given a different path that they would not have chose, if given the choice. Everyone who would be coming here wants and wanted children but for whatever reason have not been able to have them.
And, how could there not be anything left to discuss? Is there never life after not having children? I know several of the women who would be on the board and I know that there is heartbreak that they need someone to talk to about. Also, maybe just everyday life is something they will wish to talk about because I know that the boards are not just about having children, I've seen much more talk.
I don't really understand the problem with the board, if people don't like it, pass it over.
PP said it best. It can be a support for people who have had heartbreaking losses or are finding peace with IF. Questioning the purpose is seemingly insensitive. Posting with large siggies of children may be deemed even more so. In other words, allow this to be a place of support. If you have some to offer, please do. If not, find something more productive to do!
I will never understand why people question the need for certain boards, just because they themselves are not the target audience. Talk about not being able to see outside yourself... I would imagine this will be just like every other internet board ever created, where people in similar circumstances come to share and kvetch about their lives. There are a lot of women who come to the bump (or the knot) and make friends thinking they will be able to have kids (by whatever means) and when it doesn't work out for them (for whatever reason) they are left without the social outlets the rest of us enjoy.
FWIW, the board name was chosen by the ppl who requested the board, it is the preferred name vs. "childless" and contrary to a post I saw on another board, children will not be given away here for free...
5 REs + 3 surgical hysteroscopies for septum/lap + 3 failed IUIs
IVF w/ICSI/AH & acu = BFP!, unexplained spontaneous m/c @ 8w2d (our little girl),
FET w/acu = BFP!, B/G twins!, lost MP @19w, dx w/funneling cervix @20w,
twins nearly lost to IC @21w, saved by rescue cerclage, 17P & 16w of bedrest
Our twins born @36w4d via CS when A came foot first
Thankful for every day
actually it is seeing outside yourself and beyond to those that differ in their circumstances and life choices. i was simply curious about the purpose of the board, as are a lot of others. i was not meaning to be insensitive with my wording, being very direct is just my nature.
and i will never understand the lack of support in women in general--pregnant, not pregnant, adopting, fertility treatments---ALL women need support and understanding not just those currently having trouble. it is a difficult road for all of us and NONE of us should have to apologize for our lives or for the lives of our children.
I just wanted to throw this out there: Back in January, before we started our 4th and what we knew was going to be our final IVF attempt, I searched and scoured the internet for a board just like this. It wasn't that we were out of money for treatments, or didn't want to pursue DE or adoption. It was that we just didn't have the emotional endurance to do any of it anymore, and just wanted to move on with our lives. I needed to know how to cope being "childless, not by choice." I don't know anyone IRL who was facing what I felt I was facing. Trust me, there would have been plenty to discuss. Choosing to not move on with treatments or move forward with adoption doesn't mean one doesn't need support anymore, believe me.
I don't know why I was able to get pregnant when there are tons of super ladies on other boards who have worked harder and been through more than me, but it makes me happy to see that there is a place for people to go to for support when the decision is made to move on. I could have easily been one of the ladies requesting this board, and I guess that's why I am trying to justify it.
Also, I know that there are also women out there who may have wanted children, but married someone who doesn't feel the same way. OK - their decision, right? Sure, they chose their spouse over having children, but that doesn't mean that they are automatically over the fact that they are living childless. Maybe years later they regret the decision? Maybe there are circumstances where a couple can't have children, but it isn't based on infertility?
I think that this board is a much needed outlet for people who don't have a lot of other places to go to online or in real life for support. Go bump!
"It's a child, not a cheeto" Thanks mmariluh!
"Ew. I've read all of two posts from you, and you stink like rotting garbage."
Ummm...I don't recall seeing a post where someone asked you to apologize
Me: 32 - Stage II Endo / DH: 36 - Low count and morphology (1%)
IUIs 1-3 BFN, lap Dec. 2010, IUIs 4-6 BFN
IVF w/ICSI #1 - ER 2/8: 24R 19M 9F ET 2/13 2-5 day blasts (no frosties) = BFP - b/g twins!
E & C Born 10/19/2012
That is the purpose not as Mandy so snarkily said "e-friends to be e-friends" and be miserable. There are people on many boards who dearly want children but just can't for one reason or another. This is the place where they can share there resources and stories. Why is that so hard to understand? There was a point that I thought I would be a part of this group and I would have wanted a community that would be willing to share their experiences as well.
I'm sorry we stand corrected, you aren't insensitive, just slow apparently... I agree all women need support, but those who are not able to have children (either w/o help or ever) arguably need a bit more than those who have siggies like yours. Best of luck to you.
5 REs + 3 surgical hysteroscopies for septum/lap + 3 failed IUIs
IVF w/ICSI/AH & acu = BFP!, unexplained spontaneous m/c @ 8w2d (our little girl),
FET w/acu = BFP!, B/G twins!, lost MP @19w, dx w/funneling cervix @20w,
twins nearly lost to IC @21w, saved by rescue cerclage, 17P & 16w of bedrest
Our twins born @36w4d via CS when A came foot first
Thankful for every day
says you....you don't know my life or the lives of others just by looking at their siggies. not everyone chooses to list their TTC history in their siggy. but thanks for coming back at me with more snark. best of luck to you too.
No one is going to make you post here if you don't want to, thankfully. I was skeptical of the IF vets board as well (which I know all of Snarky was against), and it turned out to be exactly what a lot of us needed. BTW, I am totally anti-clique on the TB and don't understand why you think every new board should be private. Like Snarky is some open arms forum...
5 REs + 3 surgical hysteroscopies for septum/lap + 3 failed IUIs
IVF w/ICSI/AH & acu = BFP!, unexplained spontaneous m/c @ 8w2d (our little girl),
FET w/acu = BFP!, B/G twins!, lost MP @19w, dx w/funneling cervix @20w,
twins nearly lost to IC @21w, saved by rescue cerclage, 17P & 16w of bedrest
Our twins born @36w4d via CS when A came foot first
Thankful for every day
You're right, I don't know you, it's a judgement call based on "I'm so crafty, I make people" and the giant fetus in your siggie. I'm still very much in the weeds, and having your TTC history in your siggie is expected on the IF boards (which are why I came to TB). The purpose of one's siggie, as I undertand it, is to give ppl some insight into you...
5 REs + 3 surgical hysteroscopies for septum/lap + 3 failed IUIs
IVF w/ICSI/AH & acu = BFP!, unexplained spontaneous m/c @ 8w2d (our little girl),
FET w/acu = BFP!, B/G twins!, lost MP @19w, dx w/funneling cervix @20w,
twins nearly lost to IC @21w, saved by rescue cerclage, 17P & 16w of bedrest
Our twins born @36w4d via CS when A came foot first
Thankful for every day
Snarky is very open arms but if you haven't noticed- there are so many boards that not many people post on some of them. There are at least five IF boards.
I don't think every new board should be private but when it is obviously one small group of people who instead of finding a place to talk to each other on their own they add yet another board to this clusterfuuck of a site.
I do have to laugh at the fact that you are anticlique but think "the IF vets board turned out to be exactly what a lot of us needed"- a board that has a set of prerequisites that are pretty ridiculous.
"It's a child, not a cheeto" Thanks mmariluh!
"Ew. I've read all of two posts from you, and you stink like rotting garbage."
that badge is a joke, apparently you didn't see the humor in it. but you are admitting to judging me based on my siggy. good to know. so you just proved my point but i am the one that is slow.....ooooookay. like i said...best of luck to you.
Jokes are funny. That badge is just smug. And no one is fooled by my "you don't know what I've been through" nonsense. Perhaps you could kindly share the hard story of your struggles?
Alright, backing out...Neither of us belong here, and I really hope that those who do can soon talk to each other here in peace.
I would say that the first purpose of this board is that the fruitful post ticker warnings so I don't have to look at those awful fetus pictures.
I don't know if we'll be child-free forever, but it's beginning to look like that may be the case. I see this as a place where girls can come if they are going to be child-free for the foreseeable future, and not because they want to be.
I've ready many, many times that the Bump is not for support. It's entertainment, pure and simple. If you really feel that there is no hope for you to have a biological child or adoption/fostering is not an answer either, I don't even know why you would be on the Bump. I personally would find it to be too painful to be posting on a site that is devoted exclusively towards TTC and children.
ETA: There is a board called BNOTB on the Nest. I've never really lurked there, but wouldn't that be an alternative place to post?
I can only speak for myself to say that I would have never in my life made it through my miscarriages without the support of the ladies on the bump. I'm eternally grateful for them and will always sing their praises. It was never entertainment for me but a life line to sanity. I neither have visited the BNOTB board but I've got to venture and believe that the ladies on that board would have a different set of life experiences than those that have tried and are child free not by choice. As it was not by choice, these strong women have had BOTB for a long time.
good answer. Some people will never get it. If you dont get it, just stay off the board. We don't come on your boards asking what's the purpose.
You are a Pot Stirrer AE. Not cool. And if you had listened to the debates on the boards you would know that this board is different then BNOTB- where many people still post and get oopss BFPs.
I'm not an AE. I have a job where I can lurk a lot but not post. But whatever, you're pregnant and I'm not, so you win. My SN is a reflection of the way I really feel, not to pretend I am someone I am not. I think a lot of people on here are bitter, are wretched, and are hopefully women. I am what I am.
Because unlike probably 99% of the people in this post (and I find it extremely irritating that almost ALL of you are pregnant and throwing in your $.02, simply because you "have had issues"), I probably belong here. I don't put my history in my siggy because I am not comfortable with it just sort of sitting out there for all to gawk at.
And yes, I might be KU for now, but that does not = a baby nor does it mean I will ever forget the years I spent struggling, before shelling out $20k+ for a possible chance of a baby. Nor does it mean I will stop supporting those I know who are facing a child free life, not by choice- thus the choice to not have a blasted ticker or u/s pic.
It makes me sad that a board that was created as a sort of sanctuary for a group of wonderful women has been tarnished already by a bunch of a$$holes' snark. Why would a FH need to question a board name that doesn't even remotely pertain to them?
As an equal opportunity lurker... I thought that maybe "Learning to Live Child-Free" could be a good name for this board.
Best of luck to all of you ladies.
this.
i have seen this board snarked/questioned on numerous boards, and quite frankly it pisses me off.
my question is - why do you think you have a right to question it's worthiness? just because you don't understand the name or don't like the purpose of the board does NOT put you in a place to judge.
leave these wonderful ladies alone, and i think it's pathetic that they are being questioned by people who have never been even close to their situations, and most haven't even experienced a loss. this should be a safe haven for these ladies, not a place for people to poke and make fun of them. they aren't here by choice, and i'm sure that every one of these ladies would give ANYTHING to not have to be here, but they are dealing with the cards they were dealt and i think it's time that all you snarkers leave them in peace to do so.
? BFP #1 EDD 10/18/2011. Twin Blighted Ovums 3/10/11. D&C on 3/11/11 ?
?BFP #2 5/19/2011 ? 9/1/2011 - it's a BOY!!! ? Jace Matthew born 1/23/12 ?
?BFP 6/21/2012 - EDD 3/5/2013 - natural MC 7/22/2012 at 7w ?
?BFP 10/24/2012 - EDD 6/26/2013, grow little one grow!?
I wish you all the best with your journeys.
Ummm, no. please read the name of the board again. if you still don't understand the board and what it's for then slam your head into your computer 3 times and read the name of the board again. lather, rinse, repeat until you comprehend.
i'm not sure if you are referring to me or not as "one of the biggest defenders" but i do not plan to use this board as of now. we are still seeking treatments. if we stop treatments and decide that we are going to be "Child Free: Not By Choice" then i would gladly come here to get help at making peace with that difficult decision.
regardless of whether or not i use this board, i am still in support of it, and will defend it as long as i see fit.
DH- 28
Actively charting and TTC since September 2010 although not using BC since May 2007
Laporatomy March 8th,2011
Stage IV Endometreosis officially diagnosed
Removal of right ovary and partial left ovary
Lupron Therapy began April 2011 and will continue for 6 months
IVF to follow the Lupron therapy
Ummm thanks for that but I CAN read, and I GET the description but it had appeared that you didn't. There is defending the board and then there is acting like you're queen bee here already. If you're not planning on using this board, then that's one thing, but it didn't appear that way.