where do you stand? vaccinations

UCONNHuskies · May 2011

I'm not a tree hugger by any means, but I do teach and can see the benefits of both sides on this issue. Curious how everyone else feels.

https://blogs.babble.com/being-pregnant/2011/05/13/no-we-dont-vaccinate/

MommaA117 · May 2011

just so you know this may spark up a debate...were you not on 2nd tri? lol

hannahruth32 · May 2011

There is so much debate on this issue. It has been shown though that the major study involving them causing autism has been refuted. I got my son vaccinated because I would feel awful if he got a disease that could have been prevented by a simple vaccine. I always made it a habit to bow my head and pray that this would be used for the good of my son. Plan to do the same thing with my little girl.

carrieatkeson · May 2011

Wow, we might need some popcorn and snacks for this one!

MissyOlivePants · May 2011

swimbikepuke:
Vaccinate or stay home. If I were queen of the world, it would be illegal not to vaccinate. Unless you have a verifiable medical reason that your child cannot be vaccinated (in which case, you're probably very pro-vaccine as you are reliant on herd immunity) the only right answer is to vaccinate. It's not a "personal choice", it's not "up for debate", it's not "you have to do what works for your family". Vaccinate your kids. The end.

So - if you vaccinate your kids - then why would does it matter if the non-vaccinated kid is wandering about? Just because a kid isn't vaccinated doesn't mean they are infecting others with a potential fatal disease. Just curious. FWIW - we do selective vaccinations in our family. I don't think that everything requires a vaccination.

plumag · May 2011

Pro-vaccination - period.

mommy411 · May 2011

plumag:
Pro-vaccination - period.

This. I think the disease is way worse then a stick. Idk call me crazy

UCONNHuskies · May 2011

I am not a blanket pro or con person, but I have never gotten the flu (thank goodness) or the shot against it. I am the kind of person, in general who prefers to be a little sick but tough it out rather than take meds, when possible. I am allergic to penicillin, which may be one of the reasons why I go more natural. My husband, and his whole family are the shot/dr kings/queens, which I respect too. I am leaning toward selective vaccinations just because I feel, like with our food, we have done so much to alter the natural state, it is causing more harm in the long run.

Thanks for the honesty.

PS No, I was not on the sec tri with this question. Was it recently posted there too?

skylooo · May 2011

We do an alternative, custom vaccine schedule that we have agreed upon with our dr.

starskristen79 · May 2011

I REALLY hate the idea of telling people what to do, but I think our entire community is reliant upon everyone who can be vaccinated getting vaccinated for the major diseases.

kattyleigh · May 2011

It seriously amazes me that there are still people ignorant enough to refuse vaccinations. Wake up.

UCONNHuskies · May 2011

no offense, but seriously, you are annoying me because I am not attacking anyone, but clearly you are the expert on EVERYTHING vaccine related.

You must have a medical degree.

SeaMama · May 2011

MissyOlivePants:

swimbikepuke:
Vaccinate or stay home. If I were queen of the world, it would be illegal not to vaccinate. Unless you have a verifiable medical reason that your child cannot be vaccinated (in which case, you're probably very pro-vaccine as you are reliant on herd immunity) the only right answer is to vaccinate. It's not a "personal choice", it's not "up for debate", it's not "you have to do what works for your family". Vaccinate your kids. The end.

So - if you vaccinate your kids - then why would does it matter if the non-vaccinated kid is wandering about? Just because a kid isn't vaccinated doesn't mean they are infecting others with a potential fatal disease. Just curious. FWIW - we do selective vaccinations in our family. I don't think that everything requires a vaccination.

There are outbreaks of measles where I live due to non-vaccinated kids. Think of it this way, a child cannot get the MMR vaccine until they are at least 12 months old. I take my 1 month old to the ped for a checkup and someone who hasn't vaccinated their 9 year old comes into the waiting room and is hanging out with measles. You're exposing people who CAN'T yet get that vaccine to a disease that shouldn't even be an issue due to your personal choice not to vaccinate. Your choice could kill my one month old.

It is like they are infecting others with a potentially fatal disease. That's the point.

J&JSuiter070205 · May 2011

Good luck getting your kids into school if you don't "believe" in vaccinations.

ashg8r · May 2011

By the time she starts preschool in Aug (at 2.5) DD will have all vaccines required up to this point, but on a delayed schedule, starting right when she was born by postponing Hep B. The only thing she never got was rotovirus. Our pedi said since she stayed home and was EBF there was no need for it. Our pedi is very pro-vaccine (won't take patients that aren't vaccinating) but is also very pro-delayed schedule, mainly for stay home, BF babies and kiddos. IMO, several vaccines, such as polio, Hep A, and Hep B simply do not need to be given to infants that aren't at risk - but I still want my children vaccinated for them, just not when they're 2 months old.

Jelliebean1982 · May 2011

Give my baby a vaccine with a minimal risk of side effects or risk them losing their life to a completely preventable disease? It's a no brainer.

JrsMommy11 · May 2011

And here I was getting all bored on TB.

Pro-vaccine period. The lady's story had me in tears yesterday. They didn't even check her for Pertussis until it was too late, why? because it hasn't been a problem seen in years...until now, when all of a sudden so many people are questioning immunization and refusing it.

Stephiehun · May 2011

SBP, have I told you lately that I love you?

Team vaccine. Polio is not fun, people.

kkasper13 · May 2011

J&JSuiter070205:
Good luck getting your kids into school if you don't "believe" in vaccinations.

We will vaccinate our daughter for everything that is required to enter school at least. If you don't vaccinate at all you can't send your kids to public school. My H is a believer about the link to autism and doesn't want to go crazy. I am pro-vaccination so we will def. have a conversation with our doctor about all of the vaccinations and make decisions from there.

fraservalleybride · May 2011

Totally Team Vaccine as well.

Safer than sorry, i would literally be beside myself if something happened and it could of POSSIBLY been prevented by a simple lil shot.

llcoolay · May 2011

swimbikepuke:
Vaccinate or stay home. If I were queen of the world, it would be illegal not to vaccinate. Unless you have a verifiable medical reason that your child cannot be vaccinated (in which case, you're probably very pro-vaccine as you are reliant on herd immunity) the only right answer is to vaccinate. It's not a "personal choice", it's not "up for debate", it's not "you have to do what works for your family". Vaccinate your kids. The end.

AGREED!

bunnybiter · May 2011

SeaMama:
There are outbreaks of measles where I live due to non-vaccinated kids. Think of it this way, a child cannot get the MMR vaccine until they are at least 12 months old. I take my 1 month old to the ped for a checkup and someone who hasn't vaccinated their 9 year old comes into the waiting room and is hanging out with measles. You're exposing people who CAN'T yet get that vaccine to a disease that shouldn't even be an issue due to your personal choice not to vaccinate. Your choice could kill my one month old.
It is like they are infecting others with a potentially fatal disease. That's the point.

This. I worked in a hospital for two years and there were cases exactly like this. Someone not vaccinated would come in for medical care and we'd have to jump through hoops to try to keep it from spreading to those not yet vaccinated. Or who were not able to be vaccinated. Or never developed an immunity to it.

As for the OP: I'm totally for vaccinating.

justme04 · May 2011

My DS has gotten all of his vaccinations on scheduale and will continue to do so. I will vaccinate this baby in the same routine manner.

Amya · May 2011

Definitely pro-vaccines...

Fuzzy21 · May 2011

plumag:
Pro-vaccination - period.

Same

MommaA117 · May 2011

UCONNHuskies:

PS No, I was not on the sec tri with this question. Was it recently posted there too?

there was just a day of big debate about it over there a while back..It comes up every so often. Just like circumcision and kid leashes. lol. Hot topics on TB..

UCONNHuskies · May 2011

I never said NO VACCINE. I appreciate those who have been honest and OPENMINDED about the question. I am someone who is leaning toward selective vaccination, esepcailly because I will be fortunate enough to have at home care for my baby for the first year or so of his/her life. As someone who has children who have suffered from the bundling of vaccines, I am leaning toward unbundling and being selective of when (an if necessary, if).

I am glad we live in a free country where people can make the decision that is best foor their familly.

elkaybie · May 2011

plumag:
Pro-vaccination - period.

Stephiehun · May 2011

UCONNHuskies:
I never said NO VACCINE. I appreciate those who have been honest and OPENMINDED about the question. I am someone who is leaning toward selective vaccination, esepcailly because I will be fortunate enough to have at home care for my baby for the first year or so of his/her life. As someone who has children who have suffered from the bundling of vaccines, I am leaning toward unbundling and being selective of when (an if necessary, if).

I am glad we live in a free country where people can make the decision that is best foor their familly.

That's all well and good, but won't make a difference if you plan on ever leaving the house with your child.

I hate that "free country" has become synonymous with "I can make reckless decisions that will affect other people, and you can't stop me."

fraservalleybride · May 2011

Stephiehun:
UCONNHuskies:

I never said NO VACCINE. I appreciate those who have been honest and OPENMINDED about the question. I am someone who is leaning toward selective vaccination, esepcailly because I will be fortunate enough to have at home care for my baby for the first year or so of his/her life. As someone who has children who have suffered from the bundling of vaccines, I am leaning toward unbundling and being selective of when (an if necessary, if).

I am glad we live in a free country where people can make the decision that is best foor their familly.

That's all well and good, but won't make a difference if you plan on ever leaving the house with your child.

I hate that "free country" has become synonymous with "I can make reckless decisions that will affect other people, and you can't stop me."

Does anyone remember that episode of law and order.. where they had a case about vaccination.

I think the mom had 2 kids and they were not vaccinated i believe had chicken pox or something that you should be vaccinated for.. the mom took the kid or kids to the park and one of the kids or both came in contact with a baby who was not old enough or not able to get vaccinated and i believe died.

I dunno about the law these days by all means im not a lawyer.. but in the story i think the mom who took her kids to the park was i believe found guility for it.

kattyleigh · May 2011

fraservalleybride:
Stephiehun:
UCONNHuskies:

I never said NO VACCINE. I appreciate those who have been honest and OPENMINDED about the question. I am someone who is leaning toward selective vaccination, esepcailly because I will be fortunate enough to have at home care for my baby for the first year or so of his/her life. As someone who has children who have suffered from the bundling of vaccines, I am leaning toward unbundling and being selective of when (an if necessary, if).

I am glad we live in a free country where people can make the decision that is best foor their familly.

That's all well and good, but won't make a difference if you plan on ever leaving the house with your child.

I hate that "free country" has become synonymous with "I can make reckless decisions that will affect other people, and you can't stop me."

Does anyone remember that episode of law and order.. where they had a case about vaccination.

I think the mom had 2 kids and they were not vaccinated i believe had chicken pox or something that you should be vaccinated for.. the mom took the kid or kids to the park and one of the kids or both came in contact with a baby who was not old enough or not able to get vaccinated and i believe died.

I dunno about the law these days by all means im not a lawyer.. but in the story i think the mom who took her kids to the park was i believe found guility for it.

I am a pediatric RN on a PICU floor and have seen this situation in real life (except it was Whooping Cough not Chicken Pox). It happens. Tragic.

akayf · May 2011

DS has gotten every single vaccination on schedule. The only one that was slightly "delayed" was the Hep B. My pedi gives it at the 1 week appt, not in the hospital.

This baby will be getting all of his vaccinations on schedule also.

fraservalleybride · May 2011

katty- that is so tragic i truely give any medical professional props i dunno how you guys do that job you do sometimes

and with that epi.. i cant remember how they even found the mom.

SnackBot · May 2011

swimbikepuke:
UCONNHuskies:

no offense, but seriously, you are annoying me because I am not attacking anyone, but clearly you are the expert on EVERYTHING vaccine related.

You must have a medical degree.

You link a worthless blog as a potential "conversation starter" and say, "I teach and I can see both sides of this issue." That is more than annoying. For some, I'd assume it's eye roll worthy, but for others like me, or like moms of children who are not vaccination candidates, it's offensive. There aren't two sides to this issue. There are those who act responsibly, and those who threaten the lives of other people's children. It's not a complicated issue. This is not abortion. This is not breast feeding v. formula feeding. This is you (potentially) failing to do something that directly impacts the health and welfare of countless children.

And no, I don't have a medical degree. It's actually not that hard to understand the vaccination issue. You don't need a medical degree. There are plenty of reputable website that will spell out the issue for you in layman's terms so that you don't have to rely on crap like that blog as part of making an "informed decision."

https://www.aap.org/healthtopics/immunizations.cfm
(The American Academy of Pediatrics)

https://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/clinical/immunizationres.html
(The American Academy of Family Physicians)

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/
(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=childhood%20vaccines%20and%20outbreaks
(PubMed search on the effects of childhood vaccines on disease outbreaks)

Quit it, swimbikepuke. You're making far too much sense for TB. Logic will only cause brain-exploding around these parts.

heysupnatalie · May 2011

JrsMommy11:
And here I was getting all bored on TB.
Pro-vaccine period. The lady's story had me in tears yesterday. They didn't even check her for Pertussis until it was too late, why? because it hasn't been a problem seen in years...until now, when all of a sudden so many people are questioning immunization and refusing it.

This. That was extremely sad. Sad

aniceucchik · May 2011

we get everything except we are delaying the MMR and will do the same with James. Jacobs risk for ASD is 1/10 instead of the 1/100 due to his Masto, so im not taking any chances even if vaccines are "not the cause".

MommaA117 · May 2011

heysupnatalie:
JrsMommy11:

And here I was getting all bored on TB.

Pro-vaccine period. The lady's story had me in tears yesterday. They didn't even check her for Pertussis until it was too late, why? because it hasn't been a problem seen in years...until now, when all of a sudden so many people are questioning immunization and refusing it.

This. That was extremely sad.

very sad.

DH is a needle phobe and had refused the vaccine for himself. Now, he is for sure getting it as well as our immediate family. I plan to bring it up at our OB visit on Monday while he is there so she can pressure him even further..

CCinLove · May 2011

MissyOlivePants:
swimbikepuke:
Vaccinate or stay home. If I were queen of the world, it would be illegal not to vaccinate. Unless you have a verifiable medical reason that your child cannot be vaccinated (in which case, you're probably very pro-vaccine as you are reliant on herd immunity) the only right answer is to vaccinate. It's not a "personal choice", it's not "up for debate", it's not "you have to do what works for your family". Vaccinate your kids. The end.
So - if you vaccinate your kids - then why would does it matter if the non-vaccinated kid is wandering about? Just because a kid isn't vaccinated doesn't mean they are infecting others with a potential fatal disease. Just curious. FWIW - we do selective vaccinations in our family. I don't think that everything requires a vaccination.

I just read a post this morning by a woman whose few week old baby died after contracting pertussis somehow. She was urging people to have loved ones make sure that they get a booster to protect infants that aren't able to get the vaccination. Everyone that CAN be vaccinated SHOULD be to protect those that CAN'T. Babies shouldn't be dying of whooping cough in 2011.

On a personal level, I would beat the &%$# out of an irresponsible parent that didn't vaccinate and as a result their child passed on some nasty illness to my children. It makes me irate that some people only worry about their own families while putting other people's at risk. Non vaccinated people should have to walk around with scarlet letters on unless they have a medical reason for not vaccinating so that the rest of us can avoid them.

JrsMommy11 · May 2011

AprilLynn09:
heysupnatalie:
JrsMommy11:

And here I was getting all bored on TB.

Pro-vaccine period. The lady's story had me in tears yesterday. They didn't even check her for Pertussis until it was too late, why? because it hasn't been a problem seen in years...until now, when all of a sudden so many people are questioning immunization and refusing it.

This. That was extremely sad.

very sad.

DH is a needle phobe and had refused the vaccine for himself. Now, he is for sure getting it as well as our immediate family. I plan to bring it up at our OB visit on Monday while he is there so she can pressure him even further..

good luck I'm trying to do the same. Uneducated people are scaring DH out of getting it so I'm hoping our "very pro-vaccine" pediatrician can push the issue.

cherokeemomma87 · May 2011

DS has had all his vaccinations to date and will continue to get them on schedule. I would feel horrible if my son ended up in the hospital or worse because I based my decision on unbased assumtions about tried and true vaccines. I would feel even worse if I got someone else's kid seriously sick or worse I would feel even worse.

I look at those who choose not to vaccinate (medical reasons exempt) as selfish and niave.

MommaA117 · May 2011

JrsMommy11:
AprilLynn09:
heysupnatalie:
JrsMommy11:

And here I was getting all bored on TB.

Pro-vaccine period. The lady's story had me in tears yesterday. They didn't even check her for Pertussis until it was too late, why? because it hasn't been a problem seen in years...until now, when all of a sudden so many people are questioning immunization and refusing it.

This. That was extremely sad.

very sad.

DH is a needle phobe and had refused the vaccine for himself. Now, he is for sure getting it as well as our immediate family. I plan to bring it up at our OB visit on Monday while he is there so she can pressure him even further..

good luck I'm trying to do the same. Uneducated people are scaring DH out of getting it so I'm hoping our "very pro-vaccine" pediatrician can push the issue.

isn't it annoying? Just because SIL and her DH didn't get it or his co-workers didn't I do not care. They were lucky, good. He makes it out like I'm some sort of crazy hypochondriac. I love my OB though. She told me that if I didn't get my flu shot baby could be toast if I got the flu. Exact words. I know she will be a great help on Monday. I'm even hoping she'll whip one out and do it right then.

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