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crazy reason's for C-sections
i feel like i keep hearing stories about people scheduling c-sections for reasons that don't sound necessary. an old co-worker of mine and his wife were due Dec 26th (last year). because they had family coming into town for xmas and they wanted to have an outside baby for xmas, the Dr scheduled a c-section for a couple days before xmas.
and now a current co-worker of mine and his wife are expected the day before we are. the Dr's already told her they'll probably schedule a c-section due to her age...she's 40...is that normal if there are no other issues??
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Re: crazy reason's for C-sections
I agree. It's really no one's business anyway.
well, the first story i really don't think there were other reasons. the 2nd story, if she's older, there might be other reasons...you're right. maybe they're just telling people it's her age if they don't want to talk about other reasons...
while it may not be others business, I actually do care about this stuff b/c I feel that some women are pressured into c-sections who don't actually need them for their doctor's convenience. I like to hear about the reasons doctors may suggest a c-section, and have time to think about how I will react if my doctor makes the same suggestion. I only want a c-section if medically necessary and want to be prepared to defend my decision.
That is horrible. I was just watching a documentary about women pregnant in America and how the C-section rate went from 7% and a decade later is at like 37%. If doctors are willing to do a C-Section out of connivance for the patient or themself they should have their license pulled away. I think labor and delivery is the most beautiful thing a women can go through and it is something that is so natural to women. Its horrible to see it being taken away because of convince. Not to mention the risk involved with a C-section. Allow your body to do it naturally (and I don't mean without drugs. I had an epi with both my kids) and if push comes to shove you need a C-Section then schedule one. Anyways, my point don't do a C-Section unless you HAVE to due to complications.
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Yes, because anyone knows who you are, right?. If childbirth was that private, you wouldn't be on here.
Unless there is a medical reason for it, I cannot imagine willingly signing up for an elective c-section! That is my biggest and only real labor fear.
I'm talking about her coworkers not sharing their details. I don't tell my coworkers all the details of my childbirth.
I'm not sure..I watched some documentary on a woman in her 50's having a baby and they made her have a c-section but I believe she had other issues and they didnt want her to rupture or something.
My first OB with DD was the same as a co workers and she had to have a c-section because baby was breech.. And the OB didnt deliver breech babies.
I have never had any kind of surgery and I thought I'd wanted a c-section because its easier..but I really dont want to be cut open and honestly..all labor and delivery sucks and is painful afterwards so might as well keep me in tact..without stitches etc..
I think you shouldn't worry about it unless your doctor starts pressuring you into a c-section. I have had 3 friends who had c-sections, none were pressured and all were scheduled as a matter of preference as far as i know. and i say as far as i know b/c some people just don't wish to share if there are medically necessary reasons.
I think that it's always good to go into a situation prepared. I've been in situations where I haven't thought at all about something, and then a decision was presented and I had no time to think it through - I don't plan on being in that situation for something as major as child birth.
Are any of the women you speak of having elective c-sections for second (or subsequent children)? Not everyone is pro VBAC especially when many people prefer to go with what they are comfortable with. I wouldn't assume they've made the choices they have without serious consideration, c-sections are major surgical operations and I haven't heard of anyone requesting one (and having their OB approve it) for first time deliveries if there is no medical need for one.
I do think that OBs are more likely to push a RCS (repeat c-section) on a mom because it is more convenient for them and the mom (in terms of planning delivery). I'm not saying this is right or wrong, c-sections as with any birth are private matters and there are risks to RCSs and VBACs that need to be considered. I don't know of anyone who has had a non medically relevant c-section with their first delivery so I can't speak for whether or not they were pressured into that decision.
In the OP's post the two women do have plenty of time to think it through or find a different doctor who supports their decision.
The c/s rate for the US in 2009 was 32.9%, according to the CDC.
Not everyone feels labor and delivery are beautiful, spiritual experiences and that is OK. If a woman wants to have a c/s and has discussed it with her doctor, I think that's her right. I also think there is a lot of gray area between "necessary" and "elective" c-sections.
I think it's great to be educated and go into childbirth as prepared as you can be. But you may still find yourself in this situation. When you're in labor and someone tells you things aren't going right, you don't always have hours to sit and think things through and go read scholarly articles on the web. You may have to make quick decisions with the information available to you and in whatever condition you're in (exhausted, in pain, etc.).
right - and if I had done a bit of research before hand I would understand why yes, this is a good reason for a C-section and would feel better about it. I like the idea of understanding the reasons behind medical decisions.
I really don't see why it a big deal to you what other people choose. If they are informed about their options and that is their preference, then more power to them.
After knowing what 26 hours of labor was like with DS and ending up in an c-section anyway, I weighed my risks and looked at all the possibilities with this child. I have absolutely no interest in VBAC because I am not a good candidate and I had an awful experience with DS.
I honestly wouldn't discuss my reasons for choosing with my co-workers or even my in-laws. So, I wouldn't be surprised if that is why they gave you minimum details.
Not everyone feels this way. I personally have absolutely no desire to have a baby vaginally. I understand that it's very important to some, but you can't assume that everyone feels the same way.
So you find it ok for women to choose if they want a C-Section or not? Seriously? It is a dangerous major surgery. There is no grey area between I want a C-Section or I have to have one. None. If a women is requesting a C-Secion with no medical reasoning they should be denied! If a women does not want to go through labor and delievery naturaly and they think they can just have a C-section they shouldn't be getting pregnant. Sorry but thats the way I feel.
This is your first child? You have no idea what it is like to be pushing and all of a sudden see your babies hair and then head and then one last push and your baby is out. You get to hold your baby right away. Tell me you wouldn't want to experiance that?! You would rather be laying on a table have a doctor open you up pull your baby out and say here he is and take him away, wrap him up and then you get to give him a kiss but then not see him for a little bit. Not to mention that a C-Section is harder to recover from! Also, when you have a C-section there is a huge risk for bleeding internally and well...dieing if a hospital dosn't catch it. My cuz. had major shoulder pain and they told her it was nothing just air b/c of the surgery (which does happen all the time(air gets in and it is painful) and nope she was bleeidng internaly (which can also happen.) I hope you would reconsider but yes it is the womens choose I guess.
No hun, this is my second child. I had a c/s with DD because she was breech. And no, like I said before, I have NO desire to have a baby vaginally. I don't think it's anyone's right to judge another woman's decision.
Oh, and spell check is an amazing thing...you should try it out sometime.
I agree with Heather.
I have found that when it comes to childbirth, people do not share everything. There could be underlying reasons for the c-sections and the person just chooses to say "oh yea we wanted a xmas baby" to cover up what may be really going on.
I had a close friend that had a c-section and I would ask her why she didn't want to at least try vaginal, because she was giving off the vibe that c-section was just easier than vaginal, "just because". Come to find out there was a lot more to that decision that included physical and emotional issues.
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ok well hun you had a medical reason for a c/s. I think it is sad very very sad that women would choose that just b/c and it isn't me judging it is me stating my opion. and yes spell check is a wounderful thing. Not all of us is blessed with spelling ablitly but my spell check dosn't work on here. Why I don't know but it dosn't and I don't care and you are going to critizise me b/c of my spelling. WOW.
it's not a big deal to me. i just don't really know a lot of people with elective c-sections and it worries me that Dr's in town are making these operations seem like they're nice because they're convenient. and if people don't want people to know their business, then they shouldn't go around telling everyone that's why they're having a c-section.
First off, there are some very private reasons for having a c/s, one being having an STD. This is not something that someone may want to broadcast to coworkers and casual friends.
Second, I am SO SICK of people saying women should be denied c/s if there is no serious medical reason to have one. Just like people get so up in arms about women who don't even attempt to breastfeed and go right to formula, everyone has a right to decide what is best for them. This is a free country and there are so many women (women who haven't even HAD any children yet!!) on their high horse here, it's disgusting. Worry about yourself.
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You're preaching to the choir. Iris is one of the more well-educated moms on these boards when it comes to birth options. If I remember correctly, she is a doula. And she's also one of the most supportive to other moms. She is aware of the risks of a c-section. I think the majority of us are. I think Iris' point is that women should have the right to choose how they want to labor/deliver. All options should be available. Vilifying any option and calling it wrong or dangerous isn't the right approach. Saying women who do home birth are endangering the lives of their unborn children is wrong. Saying the same to mothers who get c-sections is also wrong. Yes, there are risks that are higher with a c-section due to the fact that it is major surgery. But childbirth in general is risky (even vaginal deliveries have their complications) and c-sections are still a very safe option overall. I think that is the point she's making.
And the truth is, there IS gray area between elective and necessary. There are a lot of reasons that moms schedule c-sections - repeat c-sections being one of them, and that's a very valid reason. Many would say a repeat c-section is a necessary reason, but some would consider it elective and want a VBAC instead. There you have it - gray area! And that's not the only possible example.
Yes, I am OK with that. It's her body and her choice. Just like I think it's a woman's choice to have a natural birth or a home birth or have an epidural. I don't care what other women choose to do, even if it's not a choice I would make myself.
And yes, there are gray areas. I have interstitial cystitis and I don't need to have a c/s because of it, but I might decide that I don't want to risk any more problems in that area that a vaginal delivery might cause. So I might choose a c/s and it would be a gray area whether it was necessary or not. Someone with back or hip problems might be able to deliver vaginally but might decide to have a cesarean to minimize the possibility of back or hip troubles during and after birth. Someone who had a 4th degree tear or a shoulder dystocia in a previous birth may be able to deliver vaginally but might feel more comfortable having a c/s rather than risk complications in another vaginal birth. Someone who has been sexually assaulted might prefer a scheduled cesarean instead of a labor where exams and procedures will be done to their vagina. Someone who had a previous traumatic delivery might prefer have more certainty in a future delivery and schedule a cesarean so they can better prepare and know what to expect. There are lots of cases where someone might be able to deliver vaginally but might have reasons to consider a cesarean as well. It's not black and white.
And I know that a c/s is major surgery. I've had one.
Why yes, I do.
What another woman does or doesn't do with her vagina - or uterus, in response to the second bold - is none of my business. Or yours, come to that.
I have the same feeling about other women's breasts, for the record.
Call me crazy, I have better things to worry about - things that actually pertain to me - than what other people are doing with their bodies.
I couldn't agree more.
What you do with your body is your own damn business. And no one else's. You have no right to judge anyone else for their child birth decisions.
FWIW, I'm a huge advocate of natural birth, educating yourself, and making empowered decisions.
I had to have a csection with my first because he measure 10+ lbs (only weighed 9.3), but I had not dilated and he had not dropped and I never felt contractions. Knowing that my dr. had delivered far more babies than I had, I cried because he would not allow me to deliver vaginally, but I had to trust him. Because of the situation, it was possible that the baby would break everything in my pelvis and I would break his shoulders, etc. I didn't want to have a csection, but I went with my dr's suggestion.....and, it wasn't like any of the horror stories people had told me. The recovery was just as quick with minimal pain afterwards. The wound healed just fine and the baby was perfectly healthy. So, having been totally against c/s before the 1st baby, I am now totally ok with it and with people electing to have one. And, DD is due June 10th, but I have been on the books at the hospital for CS on June 6th since January.
IMO, I think that many ob's opt to do csections if there are any chances of complications due to liability. The court system in my opinion allows people to sue for the littlest thing and win. If I was a dr, I would probably do the same thing. Who is to say that someone who says they won't sue, will? You never know. Just my opinion.
Yeahhhhhh, the thing is..the medical system affects everyone and their insurance. C-sections and formula contribute as much as smoking and obesity to insurance rates steadily climbing. It is everyones business, unless there is a serious complication, natural is always better. There's a reason we have vaginas and breasts.
Also, formula is not whats best for a baby, so the mother shouldnt be choosing the baby's food based on what is best for HER. Thats called selfish.
Please show me some legitimate data that my two c/s will cost as much as the care for a a lifelong smoker or a morbidly obese person. You cannot be serious.
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btw, there's risk in childbirth too....have a good friend who had a home birth with her son, there were complications, and she didn't make it to the hospital in time. her ds is now blind, deaf, and severely handicapped.
there's risk in anything you choose to do.
actually, my husband and i just applied for life insurance and my rate was higher because I had had a csection. i was shocked too (and actually had the same reply...my rates are higher because I had a csection, but i don't smoke and i exercise 5 times a week, but yet my husband does no exercising and is obese and eats fast food every day??). but, that's what the insurance stated on our file.
Excuse yourself.
I was born via c-section and formula fed as a baby becasuse my mother was diagnosed with Leukemia and had to undergo chemo thereapy.
So, while it was a decision that was best for her, I'd HARDLY call it selfish.
You need to check your attitude.