Up until now, DH and I have kept separate checking accounts. This is because he moved into what was my apartment, and I didn't want to deal with changing my automatic withdrawals, so the account had both the "our" expenses (rent, utilities, insurance) and the "hers" expenses. He transferred money to me for our shared expenses that were pulled from my account. Now that we're essentially starting from scratch with the new home, we've opened a new account to be my new "hers" account and the old account will be the "ours" for house expenses.
So anyway, my question is: What do you consider to be "ours" expenses? Any bills that have to be paid before "fun" money can be spent? Do you keep any personal car loans/student loans/credit card payments coming from your account? What payments (besides obvious personal toiletries, clothes, etc) do you consider to be yours alone?
Re: Question about His, Hers, Ours accounts
Our house payment, home bills (electric, gas & water), cable/internet, car payment (his car), groceries, gas, toiletries, and home stuff all come out of our shared account.
I have all of my paycheck deposited into our shared account and then I transfer some to our shared savings and some to my personal account, usually for buying gifts or for something I want to save for. DH's company allows him to split the deposit up between our shared and his personal account. He uses his personal account for his car & bicycle hobbies.
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The only time I use my account is when I'm trying to buy something for him that I don't want him to know about or if I'm spending something on my own friends/girls night out. We had a neat marriage counselor who told him that my upkeep would be our expense once he married me and that we needed to include it in the budget.
But of course, what works for one couple doesn't always work for another.
I'll warn you - our bank accounts seem complicated at first, but we love it this way.
First, we figured out how much money we spend on bills each month. Any bill that comes to our household (student loans, car payments, mortgage, utitlities, etc.), we added up for the month and divided by 4. This is the amount that we put into our Joint Billpay account.
Second, we put a set $ amount into a joint online savings account with a high percentage yield.
Third, I put away into a Roth IRA (I believe). MH has his own retirement accounts he also contributes to.
Fourth, I put $100 a pay check into my own account for a personal slush fund/fun money account, and so does he into his account. This is for things we don't have to justify to each other, my facial last weekend for example, and gifts for each other. He also pays part of his Man Cave bills from this account because they went over what we budgeted, but he wanted certain things.
Last, we put all the rest of our money into a Joint Checking account. These are our day-to-day expenses - lunches, gas, groceries, entertainment, hair cuts, clothing, etc. Any of the variable expenses basically.
I like our system because it helps us organize our money. We know our bills will get paid, and we'll always have money to pay them without worrying about dinner out taking away from our bills. We each have our own fun money accounts but only need to use them for fun. Our money is pretty much all shared except for our fun money accounts.
We do the same thing, we have the joint account for the bills and stuff, and our own play accounts. I think it would be best for you guys to figure out what to be "fair" as far as expenses to come out of the "Our" account. I paid off my student loans prior to our wedding and merging of accounts. But we sat down and figured out what would be fair to us, because I might end up with a month of extra expenses that only pertain to me maybe. I heard of others saying that whatever debt you came into the marriage with would be your responsibility. But I would sit down and see what you guys feel is fair.
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When MH and I first moved in together, we split the ours bills percentage wise depending on how much money we made. I paid about 35 percent, he paid the rest, because he made so much more money than I did. Ours expenses were rent, utilities, cable, groceries, gas and eating out. I had my own account that I paid my personal shopping (clothes, shoes, and so on) and cell phone bill with. He had his own account that he paid his personal expenses with.
When we bought our house, we merged everything. All accounts that we have are now in both of our names and we just pay everything we want together. Purchases over $100 we usually talk about before we make them. Once a month we sit down and update our budget spreadsheet to see where we are at.
This, except I make more money than he does
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We used to do exactly what you do. Then we bought a house, and the way we manage money completely changed. Now we have a joint checking account where both of our checks go, and we use that account for everything - even paying child support to his ex. He keeps a small separate account where he puts "extra" money, acquired from gifts, selling things on eBay, etc, which he uses when he wants to take me on a date "on him."
I never thought we'd merge our money, but our circumstances made merging everything much easier. I think you're really, really smart to be making distinctions - it makes it so much easier to talk about money when everyone agrees on ours VS yours.
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This (I also have my own credit card). DH has his own business account and has his own credit card that he uses if he wants to make purchases for me. Otherwise, our 2 savings accounts and our checking are joint. All of our money goes into our main account and we don't allot ''his money'' or ''her money''. We are both good with not spending too much money at once so when we want something, we just buy it. The only time we ''ask'' the other if it's ok to buy something is if it is on a more expensive purchase (like if I want the $100-$200 pair of shoes) but I would never think twice at buying a new shirt or a cup of coffee.
I also have my old account still open because my mom and dad are attached to it. They tend to pay for my plane tickets to go visit them and this way I can buy whatever ticket I want and they can just transfer me the money.
You have to find what is comfortable for both of you and every couple is different!
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We keep Hers, His, and Ours accounts (plus savings accounts).
For us, the Ours expenses cover living expenses (rent, bills, groceries, basic toiletries, etc), the gift budget, car expenses (gas, maintenance, repairs), savings, retirement, and medical expenses. Also stuff like Pre-Seed, vacation expenses, etc. And a reasonable "fun money" budget.
As far as "mine alone" expenses....for this I would consider clothes that are beyond the yearly budget, like when I want to treat myself to a really cute sweater from my favorite boutique, but it's not a necessity that I have it. Or expensive hair care products. Or sampling various eye shadows that are beyond my normal daily basics. Or...I love to pamper my best friend for her birthday, and I like to save up some extra to spend on her beyond what our gift budget would allow. Pedicures would also fall under this category. Or a video/computer game that I want to buy, but which hubby would have no interest in (like Sims and the expansion packs). I would also consider a computer that is replacing one that didn't necessarily "need" to be replaced yet -- we have His and Hers computers, and if for instance my current computer is still functioning without major issues, but I want to upgrade to a better graphic card purely for aesthetic reasons and it is not a performance issue, I would consider it a Mine purchase.
tldr: Our Ours account is a streamlined household budget. "Extras" that don't fall into the budget usually fall into one of the His and Hers accounts.
when we moved in together, we had a joint account for rent, utilities, etc., and each had our own accounts for student loans, and just our own spending. Now that we're married, everything is joint - my debt is his debt, my income is his income, we make decisions together about how much to put into savings, how much to put towards any credit cards, all that stuff. We each spend reasonably on things like buying a coffee or a new shirt or a small gift for a friend, etc., without having to check with the other person, but would discuss bigger purchases, like over $100, $200 (obviously, what constitutes a "big purchase" is going to differ based on income). We are planning to start doing the money in envelopes thing, and that will make it that much easier to have a set amount of expendable income, lunch money, whatever, that we can use without having to discuss it.
I think, unless there is some specific reason to keep your money separate (like, YH is being investigated for tax fraud), it just makes more sense to combine everything, and makes it easier. If you have more money, are you going to go out to dinner alone b/c he can't afford to eat out for the rest of the month? As long as you're in agreement about your spending and saving habits, there doesn't seem to be a big need for a bunch of separate accounts.
We have "mutual" everything (checking, savings, etc.) except for my HSA ("Health Savings Account" available through my company's insurance, so it can only be in my name). We pay for everything together. "My" debt (a small student loan) became "our" debt when he married me. When he got sick and had medical bills months after we were married and just after he lost his job, those were "our bills." We are saving up to pay in cash for a new car together soon.
The one exception is, we are about to go to a cash-only system (we don't use credit cards anyway, but we do use debit cards for most transactions). We will give each of us an equal amount of "allowance" per week/month from which we can spend on anything we want that is extraneous to our normal bills/groceries, which equates to mostly: eating out, clothes, anything "extra." We're doing this so that we both can save up even more, together.
We've had a shared account since we planned on buying our 1st house after a year of dating. He's not good at managing money so I took on the role of doing it. Because we have so many bills right now and live check to check when he wants something I give him the okay or no way, lol.
I know a lot of people don't agree with it but it works for us.
Good luck with the new house!!
We have four accounts: his, hers, ours, fun.
The ours accounts is pretty much bills and big-ticket items. The fun is savings and eating out. His and hers was pretty much necessary because we like to treat ourselves to things once in a while. He pays bills, I save. It works out better that way for us.
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This. However, we have a limit on what we can spend without checking in first. Each of us can spend $500 without talking about it first. If it is more than that we check in so that we know that we have the cash available. It wroks for us but I can see how it would not work for other couples.
Basically MH pays the shared bills and I give him a chunk of my paycheck to dump into our mutual savings. It evens out in the end.
I continue to pay my own student loans, car payment and credit card bills.
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I don't know....I mean before marriage my car that I bought years before would be mine, and his car was his. Food etc was divided. I had 3 kids and myself and he had 1 child and himself.
Now since getting married, everything is shared. DH does not have a checking account or any account. And I do not have a job, so we basically share everything...every bill that comes our way is shared, food etc.
When I get a job, I am not sure how we will do it...but probably just keep it the same or add him to my account and just share it (which we still do now)
Everything is shared. When we got married we felt like having separate accounts could promote secrecy (even with know passwords and account numbers). Also when we got married we took it as literally becoming one person and took on the burden of debts and the fun of extra money on together. We are both on all loans (if my name isnt on it I have POA for it), we both share the debt, and we both decide what to do with extra money together.
That being said, my husband makes most of the money in our family but also acquired the largest amount of debt between us due to student loans and a new vehicle, but we share both equally.
"His" money pretty much pays for all our necessities. Bills, food, utilities, cell phones, gas. And a large portion of every day extras: direct tv, internet, smart phones, gadgets.
But "my" money goes towards paying of loans faster (over paying) but also towards vacations and large purchases, as well as retirement savings.
But we dont view what either of us makes as a separate thing. We always discus how money (even in relatively small amounts) will be spent and where to put the extra at. I am SOOOOO lucky that we were raised in such similar social and financial classes, and were both taught how to manage money. Mostly Im thankful that we always agree on how to spend it and we are both savers and budgeters but not tight wads or greedy. If I really want something and it's not ridiculous, MH doesnt hesitate to tell me to get it. If MH really wants something I dont hesitate to tell him to get it.
I think the key to finances in marriage though is selflessness. It doesnt always happen, but when both parties just want their partner to be happy, then there is generally financial harmony.
I thank God that we are so alike on this and never fight about money. I love it.
We make about the same amount of money and have the same amount of debt, so its all "ours." DH was out of a job for awhile (1yr) so I covered his payments and once we BFP #2 I'll stay home untill they're both in kindergarden and he'll take over my payments. It all evens out in the end.
Just curious, with no type of account at all, where does one "put" his/her money?
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bfp 5 - natural bfp while on lupron, baby born via RCS on 4.27.15 @ 39 weeks
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I actually really like this set up and I may show this to MH.
bfp 1 - m/c 1.31.11 @ 10 weeks
bfp 2 - baby born via c-section on 5.4.12 @ 37 weeks
bfp 3 - blighted ovum/d&c on 4.13.13 @ 8 weeks
bfp 4 - 3rd IUI, very late BFN with super low P, c/p
bfp 5 - natural bfp while on lupron, baby born via RCS on 4.27.15 @ 39 weeks
bfp 6 - surprise! baby born via RCS on 11.13.16 @ 38 weeks
We have two shared accounts: one checking, one savings. DH deposits $100/check into savings and the rest + my paychecks go into our joint checking. All of our bills, whether they were pre-marriage or not, get paid out of that account. I handle most of the bills, so it's easiest just to pay out of a single account.
We do have separate retirement accounts, though (I have a state pension as a teacher, he has a 401k).
If we want to buy fun stuff, we usually buy whatever we want unless it's a big purchase ($100 or more). Simple as can be, but that's what works for us.
Everything is an "our" expense - thats the only way it works for us personally. We have a lot of checking accounts (one for student loans, one for our monthly operating expenses, one for our fun money, and one for rarer expenses, such as car repairs, etc) and we put in the appropriate money each time we get paid. H's entire paycheck every week goes into our student loan account (we also pay our rent out of there.)
We tried doing the set amount into an "our" account while keeping our separate accounts but it just didn't work well for us.
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MH has his checking account, and I have mine. Then we have a joint checking/savings. My paycheck goes into mine and his into his. We split all shared bills (mortgage, home owners insurance, utilities) right down the middle. Then we each pay our own bills (credit cards, car payments, gas) out of our own accounts. I grew up with parents who had a joint account, and my dad "took care" of everything. When they split up, my mom had very little knowledge of their actual money situation. Plus, I make more money than MH and I would be on him for every last purchase. Until he wraps up his MA and gets his "real" job, this arrangement is working perfectly. We put "extras" into the joint account (all our wedding gift money, tax returns and such) and save it for a rainy day.
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I work in finance and I always advise my clients to have one joint account with a higher yield. If you a higher balance in your one account you'll make more in interest. If you like having the his/hers/ours, keep a spreadsheet with 2 or 3 balances on it and know that those 3 balance have to equal the one your financial institution has. My mom still does it old school and keeps a register but she color codes her register to show the his/hers/ours balances.
What my DH and I do is; we have one high yield account both of our payrolls get direct deposited into. We have one credit card that everything that we possible can gets put onto it (any bills, gym memberships, groceries, etc). That cc has a 5% cash back on it. We're making money on our bills.
We pay that card off in full every month out of our one high yield account that was making interest while we let the $$ sit there. We also have an "emergency fund" account that we keep completely separate for the Uh-O stuff that might come up: car repairs, furnace stops working.
We also have retirement accounts that we try to max out every year (doesn't always happen though).
It feels great knowing we're making the most on our hard earned money.
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