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Do you look down on unmarried mothers to be

a little background.  My fiance and I have known each other 10 years, we have been together over a year as a couple and have been engaged for a few months now and are actively planning a October 2011 wedding.  I found out I was pregnant AFTER we got engaged and are thrilled about it, however I have been feeling a little judgement from other people in our lives.  A family member of his actually said she thought it was sad we now HAD to get married and pretty much told me I should drop the plans I have made already (including an $1100 dress) and just go to city hall.  My dress is on order and won't be done for another 2 months.  It is my dream dress and I cannot imagine wearing anything else and to me running to the courthouse just seems cheap and not special and nothing I ever saw myself doing.  I know I shouldn't let other people's opinions bother me, but it is making me a little self conscious and I was just wondering what opinions everyone else has on the matter. 
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  • I try not to judge other people because I don't know the whole situation. I do feel bad for single mothers and young moms.  But a couple that is stable and been together awhile...no I don't look down on them.  As for your wedding I'd tell the family member where they could shove their thought. 
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  • No way.  I think unmarried mothers to be are especially brave and have a lot on their plates.  Anyone who judges you for being preggers and unwed is probably insecure and wants to judge because it makes them feel better about themselves.  Besides, you'll be married VERY soon - Congratulations on both things!
  • The same thing actaully happened to me, but the lady who wanted us to get married before the baby arrived was my husbands grandmother. We did not take her advice and continued on as planned. We got married when my son was 15 months old, the wedding was beautiful and i wouldn't change it for anything, his grandma had a great time and so did our son. We now have two boys aged 3 and 19 months and are trying for 1 more.I think if you listen to that lady you wil regret it for ever, do what makes you and her fiance happy.

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    and to me running to the courthouse just seems cheap and not special and nothing I ever saw myself doing.

    Wow. You should watch what you write, especially after you wrote that YOU are feeling judged.

    We had a "courthouse" wedding after we had an elaborate April 2011 wedding planned already. We only had a few thousand or so dollars of deposits into it and instead of wasting over $10,000 on a wedding, we decided to spend it on baby. It wasn't "cheap" and to us it was absolutely "special." A wedding should be about being in love and what other people think, shouldn't matter. We had an amazing evening and will never forget our wedding.

     Also, for your information, not being "married" before the baby comes isn't something I look down upon. We don't live in the 40's anymore. Times, they are a changin'. However, I do look down upon someone who judges others but is boo-hooing about being judged themselves. Keep your judgmental comments off the board.

  • My parents were pregnant with me when they got married - no, I don't judge. Some people need different things in their lives to feel secure, others are ok waiting or going without. Let people think what they want about your relationship - as long as you're happy, that's all that matters.
  • Wow.  I am not saying that there is anything wrong with a courthouse wedding it is just MY opinion on what I want and do not want for my wedding.
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  • I don't look down on unwed mothers to be.  One of my bffs is unmarried and was unmarried when she had her DS.  Her and her boyfriend have been together for several years.
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  • imageriskito:

    imageCocoBrynne:
    and to me running to the courthouse just seems cheap and not special and nothing I ever saw myself doing.

    Wow. You should watch what you write, especially after you wrote that YOU are feeling judged.

    We had a "courthouse" wedding after we had an elaborate April 2011 wedding planned already. We only had a few thousand or so dollars of deposits into it and instead of wasting over $10,000 on a wedding, we decided to spend it on baby. It wasn't "cheap" and to us it was absolutely "special." A wedding should be about being in love and what other people think, shouldn't matter. We had an amazing evening and will never forget our wedding.

     Also, for your information, not being "married" before the baby comes isn't something I look down upon. We don't live in the 40's anymore. Times, they are a changin'. However, I do look down upon someone who judges others but is boo-hooing about being judged themselves. Keep your judgmental comments off the board.

    Wow. Can you over react more? She was not making any judgements on people who have courthouse weddings.  Hence:

    imageCocoBrynne:
    and to me running to the courthouse just seemscheap and not special and nothing I ever saw myself doing.

    She stated her opinion, and what she wouldn't want to do for herself. Which is against NO board rules.

    It seems to me that you were digging for something to be offended about. If you are happy with the way your wedding was - then there's no need for you to jump all over her for wanting to be happy with the wedding she wants. Part of knowing what you want is knowing what you don't want and why. To her if it seems cheap and not special- that's okay. She didn't say anything about other people that do it.  

     

  • The only time I look down on unmarried mothers to be is if there's a ton of immature baby daddy, need to grow up drama surrounding the situation.

    I honestly don't have patience for that.

    Otherwise, if you're in a stable relationship but not married, it doesn't matter to me.

    And I also don't think you were judging courthouse weddings. Just because it's not your thing, doesn't mean you're judging it either.

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    And I also don't think you were judging courthouse weddings. Just because it's not your thing, doesn't mean you're judging it either.

    Maybe not. But to call them cheap and not special, even if she is just stating her "opinion," is a bit offensive. Just saying people need to watch what they say on here, especially because of hormones. Yes, I got offended.

    If it were my "opinion" that unmarried mothers were a disgrace and should get married as soon as possible, I wouldn't post it. I also wouldn't post that something, in my opinion, is cheap and unspecial... Just saying it wasn't her thing would have sufficed.

  • I don't look down on someone because they are an unwed mother (and I don't like "look down", maybe disapprove), but if you are an unwed mother making poor choices for yourself and your unborn baby then yes, you won't find me bubbling over the fact that you've chosen to worsen your situation.  For example, my co-worker...who has had 4 "oops" pregnancies and won't work full time because she'll loose her welfare checks.

    If you are financially stable and prepared to raise a child, I don't really care about marital status....though for the sake of simplicity with the birth certificate and medical records...if you were planning on marriage anyway, I'd JOP it and have a vow renewal later.


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  • It's 2011. No one cares if you're married as long as you take care of your responsibilities in a mature fashion.

    Do you really think anyone is going to respond otherwise? I don't see the point of this post. You said you're self-conscious about what people think and you know you shouldn't let it bother you, then you ask on the internet what people think about you. Why?

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  • @Kathy Marie.  The point of posting was to get outside hopefully objective opinions.  We live in a pretty conservative smaller town so I wanted opinions of people I know are spread out over the country/world and would hope that if someone didn't think it was right that they would tell me too.  I know it is 2011 and that's why I was surprised when I got the reaction I did from his family member.
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  • imageriskito:
    imagedairygirl19:

    And I also don't think you were judging courthouse weddings. Just because it's not your thing, doesn't mean you're judging it either.

    Maybe not. But to call them cheap and not special, even if she is just stating her "opinion," is a bit offensive. Just saying people need to watch what they say on here, especially because of hormones. Yes, I got offended.

    If it were my "opinion" that unmarried mothers were a disgrace and should get married as soon as possible, I wouldn't post it. I also wouldn't post that something, in my opinion, is cheap and unspecial... Just saying it wasn't her thing would have sufficed.

    She asked for that opinion too. You could've said it. I think you're digging for drama here. Also, if this is what gets you upset on the Bump you're going to be angry and defensive all of the time. You seem as if you are worried about being judged about your courthouse wedding. If you really were fine with it, you wouldn't care what other people esp. INTERNET strangers thought.

    Hormones are also not an excuse for everything.

  • i would never look down on anyones lifestyle as long as they are good mommys :) i know lots of single moms who are awesome with their kids. Go Moms of every kind woo!
  • imagedairygirl19:
    imageriskito:
    imagedairygirl19:

    And I also don't think you were judging courthouse weddings. Just because it's not your thing, doesn't mean you're judging it either.

    Maybe not. But to call them cheap and not special, even if she is just stating her "opinion," is a bit offensive. Just saying people need to watch what they say on here, especially because of hormones. Yes, I got offended.

    If it were my "opinion" that unmarried mothers were a disgrace and should get married as soon as possible, I wouldn't post it. I also wouldn't post that something, in my opinion, is cheap and unspecial... Just saying it wasn't her thing would have sufficed.

    She asked for that opinion too. You could've said it. I think you're digging for drama here. Also, if this is what gets you upset on the Bump you're going to be angry and defensive all of the time. You seem as if you are worried about being judged about your courthouse wedding. If you really were fine with it, you wouldn't care what other people esp. INTERNET strangers thought.

    Hormones are also not an excuse for everything.

    Huh? You need to read other people's posts on here before you comment. 1. I was unmarried when I was pregnant, so why the f would I judge? 2. I'm not "digging" for drama. Just don't think people who don't want to be judged should judge. 3. Obviously, I am fine with it since I did it. Do you really think I give a flying f about what ignorant internet strangers such as yourself think? Nope! Just think people should watch what they say. 4. I didn't make hormones an excuse for me. Just saying people are touchy when pregnant.

    So in conclusion. Maybe read other people's posts before you spout off, honey. 

  • Considering how many effective forms of birth control there are I don't really understand couples who get pregnant either prior to marriage or while planning a wedding.  I hear some women say how they aren't ready to commit to marriage yet but they seem to be missing out on how having a baby with someone is a way bigger commitment than marriage is. 

    In your situation, if you have this big, dream wedding planned then why didn't you wait to get pregnant?  When you get pregnant it's not just about you anymore, it's about the baby.  I guess I'm old fashioned but I'm happy that my children were not present at my wedding.

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  • It doesn't matter to me. As long as the child is taken care of and loved I don't think it matters if the parents are married or not. There will always be someone who judges and that's their own issue.
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  • imageriskito:

    imageCocoBrynne:
    and to me running to the courthouse just seems cheap and not special and nothing I ever saw myself doing.

    Wow. You should watch what you write, especially after you wrote that YOU are feeling judged.

    We had a "courthouse" wedding after we had an elaborate April 2011 wedding planned already. We only had a few thousand or so dollars of deposits into it and instead of wasting over $10,000 on a wedding, we decided to spend it on baby. It wasn't "cheap" and to us it was absolutely "special." A wedding should be about being in love and what other people think, shouldn't matter. We had an amazing evening and will never forget our wedding.

     Also, for your information, not being "married" before the baby comes isn't something I look down upon. We don't live in the 40's anymore. Times, they are a changin'. However, I do look down upon someone who judges others but is boo-hooing about being judged themselves. Keep your judgmental comments off the board.

    She was saying for her personally she wouldn't go that route. DH and I chose not to do a courthouse wedding because we wanted a normal wedding with a dress and everything. My whole family did courthouse weddings and so did DH's and we just didn't want that.

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  • I think you're fine no matter which way you go.

    Get your dream dress, have your dream wedding- as long as you can afford it, it's NBD. 

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    Considering how many effective forms of birth control there are I don't really understand couples who get pregnant either prior to marriage or while planning a wedding. 

    Wow. And people jumped down MY throat. FYI: Not all forms of birth control are effective. I got pregnant on Seasonique (birth control) while we were planning our wedding. And just in case you didn't realize: We are in the 21st century. You don't have to be married to have a healthy, successful child. 

    So ya... Not all methods of birth control are effective. Duh. 

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  • I say do what's right for your family... not your extended family, but YOUR family... you, your fiance and baby-to-be.  Because at the end of the day, that's what is most important.  I was not married when I had my DS, and I am  not married to his biological father now.  It's what was right for us.  My son is happy, healthy, and thriving!  Good luck to you in whatever you chose to do!! :)
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    Considering how many effective forms of birth control there are I don't really understand couples who get pregnant either prior to marriage or while planning a wedding.  I hear some women say how they aren't ready to commit to marriage yet but they seem to be missing out on how having a baby with someone is a way bigger commitment than marriage is. 

    In your situation, if you have this big, dream wedding planned then why didn't you wait to get pregnant?  When you get pregnant it's not just about you anymore, it's about the baby.  I guess I'm old fashioned but I'm happy that my children were not present at my wedding.

    Not to retread eighth grade health class or anything, but abstinence is the only way to prevent pregnancy 100% of the time. You shouldn't assume someone was not on BC just because a pregnancy was unplanned.

    Which is not even the real issue I have with your comment - marriage does not guarantee a happy home or committed parenting. If a couple decides to become parents sans wedding licence, that is their business and certainly does not mean they won't be devoted or committed to their child. Who am I or you or anyone to pass judgement on how a family comes together?

    What about same sex couples who are denied the right to marry? They have no choice but to plan their families without a wedding first. Doesn't mean they won't be wonderful parents, and provide their children with a stable and loving home.

    OP - No, I don't look down on unmarried mothers-to-be. What a silly thing to judge someone on. Be a good parent and love your kid. Other than that, I couldn't care less.

  • imageriskito:
    imagedairygirl19:
    imageriskito:
    imagedairygirl19:

    And I also don't think you were judging courthouse weddings. Just because it's not your thing, doesn't mean you're judging it either.

    Maybe not. But to call them cheap and not special, even if she is just stating her "opinion," is a bit offensive. Just saying people need to watch what they say on here, especially because of hormones. Yes, I got offended.

    If it were my "opinion" that unmarried mothers were a disgrace and should get married as soon as possible, I wouldn't post it. I also wouldn't post that something, in my opinion, is cheap and unspecial... Just saying it wasn't her thing would have sufficed.

    She asked for that opinion too. You could've said it. I think you're digging for drama here. Also, if this is what gets you upset on the Bump you're going to be angry and defensive all of the time. You seem as if you are worried about being judged about your courthouse wedding. If you really were fine with it, you wouldn't care what other people esp. INTERNET strangers thought.

    Hormones are also not an excuse for everything.

    Huh? You need to read other people's posts on here before you comment. 1. I was unmarried when I was pregnant, so why the f would I judge? 2. I'm not "digging" for drama. Just don't think people who don't want to be judged should judge. 3. Obviously, I am fine with it since I did it. Do you really think I give a flying f about what ignorant internet strangers such as yourself think? Nope! Just think people should watch what they say. 4. I didn't make hormones an excuse for me. Just saying people are touchy when pregnant.

    So in conclusion. Maybe read other people's posts before you spout off, honey. 


    You are the one that is coming off as ignorant and judgmental, "honey". But keep digging that hole.

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  • imagedairygirl19:
    imageriskito:
    imagedairygirl19:

    And I also don't think you were judging courthouse weddings. Just because it's not your thing, doesn't mean you're judging it either.

    Maybe not. But to call them cheap and not special, even if she is just stating her "opinion," is a bit offensive. Just saying people need to watch what they say on here, especially because of hormones. Yes, I got offended.

    If it were my "opinion" that unmarried mothers were a disgrace and should get married as soon as possible, I wouldn't post it. I also wouldn't post that something, in my opinion, is cheap and unspecial... Just saying it wasn't her thing would have sufficed.

    She asked for that opinion too. You could've said it. I think you're digging for drama here. Also, if this is what gets you upset on the Bump you're going to be angry and defensive all of the time. You seem as if you are worried about being judged about your courthouse wedding. If you really were fine with it, you wouldn't care what other people esp. INTERNET strangers thought.

    Hormones are also not an excuse for everything.

    My thoughts exactly.  I was LOVING that this board (and the first tri board) seem to have so much LESS drama than the TTC board... I hope it stays that way and that we can avoid looking for drama or getting defensive. 

    And honestly, I am probably in the minority, but I really do think that if you're in a stable relationship and you are committed enough to have a child, than you may want to consider getting married.  My DH and joke that NOW it's for real (after 3 and a half years of marriage!) because a kid solidifies us for life... You can divorce someone and never see them again, but if you divorce the father of your child, he'll still be in your life FOREVER. 

    I'm not saying this to offend, but just to show the other side of it.  Hope this helps you in your decision making!  Perhaps you could plan a special wedding more quickly?  But every woman deserves the wedding SHE wants (not the one mom or grandma wants) so be sure the decision is one you can live with.  Good luck! 

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  • I feel that as long as you are a responsible adult I don't care if you are married or single. I know plenty of career women who have adopted or had a baby by themselves because they weren't going to let the lack of husband stand in their way which is awesome. I'm not sure who said it above, but the only people I look down on are those who have babies for welfare checks (yes sadly people do that. I heard it come out of a woman's mouth once and i almost died) and people who are bad parents. That statement goes to single or married people. 

    As for the person who said something about your wedding, how old were they? I'm guessing they were older (and filter is going away) and they are just old fashioned.  I can't keep track of all the people I know who are doing what you are planning to do; remember the TV Show Bethanny Getting Married?  And like someone said above do what is right for your family, everyone is different. Good luck. 
  • Been with my significant other for over 11 years we have an 8 year old together and soon with gods blessing we will have a baby boy to add to the brew. We are not married nor are there plans for it in the near future. I think its worked for us and we are grateful. forget the rude remarks and let your self beam over your growing belly and flaunt it with pride. those who judge are just jealous and envy is one ugly sucker.
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  • OP, i hate to say it, but no matter what you do, someone will judge. It is just the nature of the beast. Child before marriage does not make old school people comfortable.

    My family would judge me as well. Ppl from my town would judge. It is just how it is. Im sorry to say.

    And Risk#@, get your panties out of a wad. She wasn't bashing ppl who have courthouse marriage. She just doesn't want one. If you let something like this piss you off, you have a long road ahead of you.

  • imageriskito:

    imageCocoBrynne:
    and to me running to the courthouse just seems cheap and not special and nothing I ever saw myself doing.

    Wow. You should watch what you write, especially after you wrote that YOU are feeling judged.

    We had a "courthouse" wedding after we had an elaborate April 2011 wedding planned already. We only had a few thousand or so dollars of deposits into it and instead of wasting over $10,000 on a wedding, we decided to spend it on baby. It wasn't "cheap" and to us it was absolutely "special." A wedding should be about being in love and what other people think, shouldn't matter. We had an amazing evening and will never forget our wedding.

     Also, for your information, not being "married" before the baby comes isn't something I look down upon. We don't live in the 40's anymore. Times, they are a changin'. However, I do look down upon someone who judges others but is boo-hooing about being judged themselves. Keep your judgmental comments off the board.

    Kindly swively your head to the left, HONEY.  Notice where by your posts it states: Newbie?  That means you are NEW to this board and perhaps don't understand/know what the boards are really all about.  Nor should you be stating what should be "kept off the board".  To be quite honest, you sound like a jacka$$ here...not the op.

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  • Anyone else think this is kind of a dumb question? Do you really think if someone did look down on unwed mothers that they would risk the flaming and come out and say it? Yea...I have been here a long time and know maybe 3 people who would say it but a lot more who would think it. 

     

     

    I myself couldn't give a crap. I have a lot of friends who are single moms, and my mom was pregnant with me at her wedding. No biggie.  

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    Anyone else think this is kind of a dumb question? Do you really think if someone did look down on unwed mothers that they would risk the flaming and come out and say it? Yea...I have been here a long time and know maybe 3 people who would say it but a lot more who would think it. 

     

     

    I myself couldn't give a crap. I have a lot of friends who are single moms, and my mom was pregnant with me at her wedding. No biggie.  

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  • imageriskito:
    imageitsmevkb:

    Considering how many effective forms of birth control there are I don't really understand couples who get pregnant either prior to marriage or while planning a wedding. 

    Wow. And people jumped down MY throat. FYI: Not all forms of birth control are effective. I got pregnant on Seasonique (birth control) while we were planning our wedding. And just in case you didn't realize: We are in the 21st century. You don't have to be married to have a healthy, successful child. 

    So ya... Not all methods of birth control are effective. Duh. 

    Did you just srsly say "duh"? Wow, you're super cool.

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  • Clearly, where you have apparently needed IVF to conceive (based on that little personal history caption you have there under your comment) you don't have an understanding of how it works when birth control fails in women who don't have issues with their fertility - yes, it can, and DOES happen. As another person on this blog said, NO form of birth control is 100% other than abstinence. I was on the same birth control pill that has worked for me for years, and took it religiously, however, I still ended up getting pregnant. Life happens...sometimes people get pregnant without it being planned - like other unexpected situations in life, you deal with it like an adult.  My partner and I are in a committed relationship and have been for 5 years. No, we are not married yet, however, some day we will be, and when we do get married it will be a celebration of our commitment to / love for each other and our family, just as it would have been if we hadn't become pregnant before getting married.  You don't have to have a certificate of marriage to realize that the birth of a baby means it's no longer just about you. You also don't need a certificate of marriage to be completely committed to your partner and to being the best parent you can be / putting that child's health and well-being above all else. Yes, you are old-fashioned, and there is nothing wrong with that if it is what works for you / what your situation dictated, however you are also incredibly judgemental and self-righteous - if it makes you feel better to look down on others who don't live their lives like you, that is just sad and perhaps points to your own personal insecurities. I am really surprised to read such a negative, judgemental comment on a website that is intended to be a support resource for expectant mothers of ALL backgrounds.
  • imagerkhouse:
    Clearly, where you have apparently needed IVF to conceive (based on that little personal history caption you have there under your comment) you don't have an understanding of how it works when birth control fails in women who don't have issues with their fertility - yes, it can, and DOES

    bahahah. Yes, because anyone that uses ART obviously doesn't know jackshiit about fertility. Thanks for that lesson.

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    imagerkhouse:
    Clearly, where you have apparently needed IVF to conceive (based on that little personal history caption you have there under your comment) you don't have an understanding of how it works when birth control fails in women who don't have issues with their fertility - yes, it can, and DOES

    bahahah. Yes, because anyone that uses ART obviously doesn't know jackshiit about fertility. Thanks for that lesson.

    I didn't know women who needed ART were stupid. Good to know! 

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