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I figured it out (NCSS)

I have finally figured out why NCSS doesn't work for us.  As most of you know, we've been battling with sleep for 14 months.  Still are.  A few times, people have suggested NCSS, which was actually the first "sleep trainer" we turned to.  I've always said it wasn't for us, but never had the right words to say why.  Tonight it popped into my head... DUH.  The entire system is based on taking a small step at a time from your norm to make a change... and if there is a bad night or it's 5 AM and baby still isn't asleep, you go back to what has always worked...

But if the reason you want... sorry... NEED a change is because baby is physically hurting you (DS being attached to my nipple without letting go- ever, despite practicing PPO for TEN MONTHS) and you have experienced ENOUGH of that pain in any given time frame... Guess what my options are?  Let him cry or be in more pain?  I think I've decided that sometimes (this situation included), it will make me a better mommy to let him cry it out.  Mommy's all-night buffet is now closed at night because *I* will cry if he bites me or squeezes or stays tightly latched for more than 5 minutes (it's been 2 hours tonight... just in case you were wondering). 

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Re: I figured it out (NCSS)

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  • Aww :( I'm so sorry you're still dealing with sleep issues. I'm glad you finally figured out what to do next and I hope it works. I'll tell you with DD her sleep started to decline around 11 months. She would wake around4-6 times a night and just want to nurse. She hurt me too like your DS. Anyway at 16 months I couldn't take it anymore. I had the pain from nursing and it was 100x worse because I was preg. Well when she would wake I would take her to the rocker and just rock her not nurse. She wasn't happy but I though I'd try to get her to sleep first, then I put her in her crib if she didn't fall asleep in under 5 mins (which she normally did not) after 5 days she started sleeping better and if she woke up she normally fussed but went back to sleep. I hope you can get some sleep and find what works. GL!
  • Awww that's tough.  The PPO method didn't work for DD either.  I just laid next to her patting and shushing until she went to sleep.  It was a rough few weeks but I felt comfortable that I was right there with her, even if I wasn't giving her EXACTLY what she wanted.  When it comes down to you you have to do what works for you.  You've tried other options and they didn't work so good luck with what you are trying now!
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  • The NCSS worked for me when I first tried it. Then teething hit and it was all undone. Eventually what worked for me (believe it or not) was nursing him while sitting on his bedroom floor instead of in the chair. He felt too confined in the chair I guess and would fight sleep. Now I nurse him and put him down in his crib and he falls asleep on his own.

    I think you just have to do what works best for you. Good luck!

  • You're not alone. NCSS didn't do squat for us either. I think the other issue with the book is that it has the most option for those wanting to continue cosleeping or who are already crib sleeping and just want their kid to sleep longer during the night. Our issue is that she sleeps well during the night (there are some bad nights but generally she only wakes once) but she's in our bed and we want her OUT! She touches on that very briefly and if I recall the most useful option was putting her on a mattress on the floor in your room and sleeping on it and slowly moving out of it. Well that just isn't going to work for us in our situation.

    I hope that you're able to get him to sleep longer and get some relief yourself.

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    Aww :( I'm so sorry you're still dealing with sleep issues. I'm glad you finally figured out what to do next and I hope it works. I'll tell you with DD her sleep started to decline around 11 months. She would wake around4-6 times a night and just want to nurse. She hurt me too like your DS. Anyway at 16 months I couldn't take it anymore. I had the pain from nursing and it was 100x worse because I was preg. Well when she would wake I would take her to the rocker and just rock her not nurse. She wasn't happy but I though I'd try to get her to sleep first, then I put her in her crib if she didn't fall asleep in under 5 mins (which she normally did not) after 5 days she started sleeping better and if she woke up she normally fussed but went back to sleep. I hope you can get some sleep and find what works. GL!

    DS was younger when he night weaned, but this method worked for us, too.  I realized that he wasn't actually nursing, he would suck for a minute and then be fast asleep, so I started rocking him instead of offering to nurse.  Sometimes it took a while, but I felt better that I was with him than that I was just leaving him alone.  After doing the rocking thing for a while we went to supervised crying (moving farther and farther away from the crib while shushing). It took about 2 weeks to be able to put him down at night and let him put himself to sleep, but it only took a few days for him to put himself back to sleep when he woke up in the middle of the night.

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