the 6 month mark is not some magical number that must be met. When we started this board, we wanted a place to go to not deal with goats and bazillions of bfp posts. Some of us who pushed for this are habitual aborters, some had stillbirths or late losses, some were dealing with the double whammy of loss and if. We were a jaded, broken down, psychologically scarred group of women who didn't have the energy left to make friends with new people on the board, who wuld almost certainly be there for a cycle or two before getting like zomg totes preggers. We didn't have the patiece or energy to answer "how long should I wait to ttc?" "did the fact that I snezed at 2am cause my temp rise?" and "how many dpo should I test?"
we're war-hardened veterans. We're tired,we're stressed, and we're sick of the universe knocking us down.
if that rings true for you, well, that's what this board is for.
I think that is a great explanation. I am 100% certain I fit in here, mostly because I am...tired.
It's not so much about pain for me, it's about the complete apathy about posts like, 'Why X month will be great to get my BFP or deliver!! YAY!!". I just can't talk about that stuff. I don't get excited about waiting for x dpo to test. I hate talking about mind fetus or sighns. I just can't pretend I care anymore. No hard feelings for anyone, I just can't do it.
I probably would have fit in here right from the start actually. There is a reason I never had a "TTCAL Buddy". I don't think I need to explain why.
DD #1 born 9/07 ** DD #2 born 7/11 ** Operation Take Back My Body has begun 10/11 Upcoming Races Gobble Wobble 5K 11/24/11 - Abington, PA 29:40 Superbowl 10K 02/05/12 - Allentown, PA 54:28 PR!!!! Broad Street 10 Mile Run 05/06/12 - Philadelphia, PA 1:30:44 Rock and Roll Half Marathon 09/16/12 - Philadelphia, PA Philadelphia (Half?!?) Marathon 11/18/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Sounds like you'll fit in here just fine...and having more Philly girls around is always a good thing.
Are you a football fan? Bye week s_ucks!
DD #1 born 9/07 ** DD #2 born 7/11 ** Operation Take Back My Body has begun 10/11 Upcoming Races Gobble Wobble 5K 11/24/11 - Abington, PA 29:40 Superbowl 10K 02/05/12 - Allentown, PA 54:28 PR!!!! Broad Street 10 Mile Run 05/06/12 - Philadelphia, PA 1:30:44 Rock and Roll Half Marathon 09/16/12 - Philadelphia, PA Philadelphia (Half?!?) Marathon 11/18/12 - Philadelphia, PA
I have season tickets - so yes! I'm kind of enjoying the bye today since DH actually suggested going out for brunch which never, ever happens. I haven't left the couch since we got home!
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That's fun that you have season tickets. I haven't been to a game in a couple years, and I always have such a good time!
DD #1 born 9/07 ** DD #2 born 7/11 ** Operation Take Back My Body has begun 10/11 Upcoming Races Gobble Wobble 5K 11/24/11 - Abington, PA 29:40 Superbowl 10K 02/05/12 - Allentown, PA 54:28 PR!!!! Broad Street 10 Mile Run 05/06/12 - Philadelphia, PA 1:30:44 Rock and Roll Half Marathon 09/16/12 - Philadelphia, PA Philadelphia (Half?!?) Marathon 11/18/12 - Philadelphia, PA
My dad has had the seats forever but he quit going during the Kotite years and now he lives in FL. So our group has 6 tix, but just one is mine. We have a pretty good sized tailgate so it's a great time.
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Hey, I see in your siggie you are starting IVF. I did 5 cycles at Abington. Where are you cycling? if you don't want to say I totally understand
DD #1 born 9/07 ** DD #2 born 7/11 ** Operation Take Back My Body has begun 10/11 Upcoming Races Gobble Wobble 5K 11/24/11 - Abington, PA 29:40 Superbowl 10K 02/05/12 - Allentown, PA 54:28 PR!!!! Broad Street 10 Mile Run 05/06/12 - Philadelphia, PA 1:30:44 Rock and Roll Half Marathon 09/16/12 - Philadelphia, PA Philadelphia (Half?!?) Marathon 11/18/12 - Philadelphia, PA
That's an excellent question - probably Abington actually. I was hoping to participate in their clinical trial, but I probably won't pass the screening because I had 2 cysts when I went last week on CD3. I'm still waiting to hear the official no though. I did my IUI's at Penn and was considering a second opinion when I heard about the study. Now I'm going to be all OOP so I was considering Crozer because they have incredible packages, but I really don't want to start with another doctor at this point. Abington has an office in Paoli now so I think I'm just going to go there.
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Oh I remember reading about your study! They are really great there. I am sorry about the cysts I do hope it works out. If not I feel like you'd be in good hands if you decide to stay OOP. Ask about donated meds. When I closed the book on IVF I donated a ton of Follistim and some other stuff. I know they have "a closet".
Also, when I was reading your posts about the study I thought you might be with Dr. Check. He runs a lot of studies. My SIL got her IVFs fully covered when she entered in a study with him. It was something about progesterone, and she got 2 free cycles and conceived her DD on the second one (and now she is pg with a 2 under 2 miracle oops baby). I think he is at Cooper?
Either way, GOOD LUCK!
DD #1 born 9/07 ** DD #2 born 7/11 ** Operation Take Back My Body has begun 10/11 Upcoming Races Gobble Wobble 5K 11/24/11 - Abington, PA 29:40 Superbowl 10K 02/05/12 - Allentown, PA 54:28 PR!!!! Broad Street 10 Mile Run 05/06/12 - Philadelphia, PA 1:30:44 Rock and Roll Half Marathon 09/16/12 - Philadelphia, PA Philadelphia (Half?!?) Marathon 11/18/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Check is at Cooper - one of my friends swears by him and begged me to go see him. It wasn't really convenient to go over there, but it probably isn't much further than Abington actually. I'm going to look and see if he has anything going on now.
That's great to know about the meds. I'll have to check that out. Thanks!
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The day you first lay in my arms, you made my life complete. Aurora Rose born sleeping at 35w on 4-21-10 BFP#2 {Almond} - 2.1.11 EDD 10.12.11 C/P 2.11.11
Wow, okay this makes it official, I'm coming over here, because if there is any words that I could use to describe it is "I'm tired," and I really am. I've actually considered not coming here anymore because every time I see a BFP wave or countdowns to testing it just makes me so very frustrated that once again its not me, won't be me, can't possibly be me.
So if you'll have me, I'll be here.
TTC since July 2009
^Rosemary^ May 7, 2010
Holding my rainbow, Beatrix, since August 21, 2012
P>There is a reason I never had a "TTCAL Buddy". I don't think I need to explain why.
Word. If I had a buddy, I would want them to be an IFer...hard to find on the regular board. But primarily, I was/am afraid of being the one "buddy" left behind. Plus, I didn't want to stuff my siggy anymore. It's quite full as-is
We're tired - CHECK - We're stressed - CHECK, and we're sick of the universe knocking us down DOUBLE CHECK
Definitely rings true...Thanks for having me...I'm trying to support others on TTCAL (hence the buddies, but I'm a terrible buddy), but when November is the perfect month to conceive, then I have to bang my head against a wall. How about any month is a perfect month to conceive.
BFP #1: 07/10/2009, Missed m/c, D&C 08/12/2009
BFP #2: 01/31/2010, Identical Twins died in utero due to TTTS, D&E 05/19/2010
BFP #3: 09/16/2010, natural m/c 9/21/2010
PCOS & Bocornuate Uterus Dx 1.4.2011
BFP #4: 01/11/2011
For me, it had a lot to with where I was in my personal journey of TTC. I was ready to bite off the heads of many posters on TTCAL. It was hard to see BFPs for people who'd been on the board for 6 weeks. It was never about my 'friends' moving over or 'knowing more people over here'. JMO.
Missed m/c 11.09 | Missed m/c 3.10 | We miss you & love you so.
~ ~ ~
It's not so much about pain for me, it's about the complete apathy about posts like, 'Why X month will be great to get my BFP or deliver!! YAY!!". I just can't talk about that stuff.
And when I'm not apathetic, I'm gleefully answering that question with misery and gloom, saying that if I got pg in November, it'd be awesomesauce that I'd miscarry on time to be able to get drunk on my bday in January.
I am also tired, and I am bitter I guess, because it took so long the first time to finally gett KU, that posts that says "OMG it's been 2 cycles of TTC & no line yet I'm so frustrated" I want to rip my hair out and scream.
I am also tired, and I am bitter I guess, because it took so long the first time to finally gett KU, that posts that says "OMG it's been 2 cycles of TTC & no line yet I'm so frustrated" I want to rip my hair out and scream.
Jill your a good buddy.
Thanks, Amye. And if I ripped my hair out every time I felt this way I'd have no hair left.
BFP #1: 07/10/2009, Missed m/c, D&C 08/12/2009
BFP #2: 01/31/2010, Identical Twins died in utero due to TTTS, D&E 05/19/2010
BFP #3: 09/16/2010, natural m/c 9/21/2010
PCOS & Bocornuate Uterus Dx 1.4.2011
BFP #4: 01/11/2011
I think that is a great explanation. I am 100% certain I fit in here, mostly because I am...tired.
It's not so much about pain for me, it's about the complete apathy about posts like, 'Why X month will be great to get my BFP or deliver!! YAY!!". I just can't talk about that stuff. I don't get excited about waiting for x dpo to test. I hate talking about mind fetus or sighns. I just can't pretend I care anymore. No hard feelings for anyone, I just can't do it.
I probably would have fit in here right from the start actually. There is a reason I never had a "TTCAL Buddy". I don't think I need to explain why.
wow, did you ever just completely sum up my feelings perfectly
Colinda is so good with explaining these things. She's awesome.May I also add that if I see someone come over here 2 months post loss whining about how "tired" they are, I may just punch them in the throat?
Stillbirth at 23w6d on Sept, 22, 2008
M/C at 5 weeks June 14, 2010
My miracle, James Frederick born May 2, 2011 via C-section
Made up example of why some of us just can't handle TTCAL anymore....
Zomg, I just had a miscarriage 4 weeks ago & I experienced EWCM (eww gross!!) 2 weeks ago & think I ovulated. DH & I did, um, you know, the "baby dance" three times. Now I'm having sore boobs and total food aversion. Do you guys think I'm preggers????
Connor Thomas 6/6/08. Discovered missed miscarriage at 17 wks 3 days, D&C 11/25/09.
Please, please, please - BFP 5/21/11, EDD 2/1/11. Beta@12DPO=52, Beta@14DPO=158. U/S 7/7/11 shows strong baby measuring a couple days ahead!!!
But, just to clear up any possible misconceptions, we don't JUST b*tch & get frustrated & bitter over here. There are many supportive, kind, silly, fun times as well. And you'd be hard pressed to find a more positive reaction to a BFP than over here.
These ladies totally get my dark & down times. But they're also my biggest cheerleaders.
You guys are the best!!!
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It's not so much about pain for me, it's about the complete apathy about posts like, 'Why X month will be great to get my BFP or deliver!! YAY!!". I just can't talk about that stuff.
And when I'm not apathetic, I'm gleefully answering that question with misery and gloom, saying that if I got pg in November, it'd be awesomesauce that I'd miscarry on time to be able to get drunk on my bday in January.
Slugs. Habitual Aborting is just such a total mindfvck.
But, just to clear up any possible misconceptions, we don't JUST b*tch & get frustrated & bitter over here. There are many supportive, kind, silly, fun times as well. And you'd be hard pressed to find a more positive reaction to a BFP than over here.
These ladies totally get my dark & down times. But they're also my biggest cheerleaders.
You guys are the best!!!
Amen.
Chances are good that there will be tears with nearly every BFP on this board - tears, and anxiety, and hand-holding, and support, and individual pain expressed in the most supportive, loving, and understanding ways.
I love this place for its acknowledgement of the complexity of our responses to TTCAL.
It's not so much about pain for me, it's about the complete apathy about posts like, 'Why X month will be great to get my BFP or deliver!! YAY!!". I just can't talk about that stuff.
And when I'm not apathetic, I'm gleefully answering that question with misery and gloom, saying that if I got pg in November, it'd be awesomesauce that I'd miscarry on time to be able to get drunk on my bday in January.
If I had a penis, it'd be so fvcking hard right now.
12 long, hard years of TTC- Miscarriages, losses, lots of treatments & drugs & IVF
Natural BFP (WTF?!) - 06/04/11 ~ lots of complication and drama, but sweet baby Adele born 02/07/12!
BFP #million -another girl for us! EDD - 05-08-15 (but will come early)
It's not so much about pain for me, it's about the complete apathy about posts like, 'Why X month will be great to get my BFP or deliver!! YAY!!". I just can't talk about that stuff.
And when I'm not apathetic, I'm gleefully answering that question with misery and gloom, saying that if I got pg in November, it'd be awesomesauce that I'd miscarry on time to be able to get drunk on my bday in January.
If I had a penis, it'd be so fvcking hard right now.
12 long, hard years of TTC- Miscarriages, losses, lots of treatments & drugs & IVF
Natural BFP (WTF?!) - 06/04/11 ~ lots of complication and drama, but sweet baby Adele born 02/07/12!
BFP #million -another girl for us! EDD - 05-08-15 (but will come early)
It's not so much about pain for me, it's about the complete apathy about posts like, 'Why X month will be great to get my BFP or deliver!! YAY!!". I just can't talk about that stuff.
And when I'm not apathetic, I'm gleefully answering that question with misery and gloom, saying that if I got pg in November, it'd be awesomesauce that I'd miscarry on time to be able to get drunk on my bday in January.
If I had a penis, it'd be so fvcking hard right now.
Re: To answer all of the "do I qualify for this board?" queries
By the way, how are you? I haven't seen you much, but that could be because work has drastically cut down my 6+ time.
I think that is a great explanation. I am 100% certain I fit in here, mostly because I am...tired.
It's not so much about pain for me, it's about the complete apathy about posts like, 'Why X month will be great to get my BFP or deliver!! YAY!!". I just can't talk about that stuff. I don't get excited about waiting for x dpo to test. I hate talking about mind fetus or sighns. I just can't pretend I care anymore. No hard feelings for anyone, I just can't do it.
I probably would have fit in here right from the start actually. There is a reason I never had a "TTCAL Buddy". I don't think I need to explain why.
DD #1 born 9/07 ** DD #2 born 7/11 ** Operation Take Back My Body has begun 10/11
Upcoming Races
Gobble Wobble 5K 11/24/11 - Abington, PA 29:40
Superbowl 10K 02/05/12 - Allentown, PA 54:28 PR!!!!
Broad Street 10 Mile Run 05/06/12 - Philadelphia, PA 1:30:44
Rock and Roll Half Marathon 09/16/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Philadelphia (Half?!?) Marathon 11/18/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Are you a football fan? Bye week s_ucks!
DD #1 born 9/07 ** DD #2 born 7/11 ** Operation Take Back My Body has begun 10/11
Upcoming Races
Gobble Wobble 5K 11/24/11 - Abington, PA 29:40
Superbowl 10K 02/05/12 - Allentown, PA 54:28 PR!!!!
Broad Street 10 Mile Run 05/06/12 - Philadelphia, PA 1:30:44
Rock and Roll Half Marathon 09/16/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Philadelphia (Half?!?) Marathon 11/18/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Mmmm, brunch. I haven't been in forever.
That's fun that you have season tickets. I haven't been to a game in a couple years, and I always have such a good time!
DD #1 born 9/07 ** DD #2 born 7/11 ** Operation Take Back My Body has begun 10/11
Upcoming Races
Gobble Wobble 5K 11/24/11 - Abington, PA 29:40
Superbowl 10K 02/05/12 - Allentown, PA 54:28 PR!!!!
Broad Street 10 Mile Run 05/06/12 - Philadelphia, PA 1:30:44
Rock and Roll Half Marathon 09/16/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Philadelphia (Half?!?) Marathon 11/18/12 - Philadelphia, PA
My dad has had the seats forever but he quit going during the Kotite years and now he lives in FL. So our group has 6 tix, but just one is mine. We have a pretty good sized tailgate so it's a great time.
KOTITE! Blast from the past.
Hey, I see in your siggie you are starting IVF. I did 5 cycles at Abington. Where are you cycling? if you don't want to say I totally understand
DD #1 born 9/07 ** DD #2 born 7/11 ** Operation Take Back My Body has begun 10/11
Upcoming Races
Gobble Wobble 5K 11/24/11 - Abington, PA 29:40
Superbowl 10K 02/05/12 - Allentown, PA 54:28 PR!!!!
Broad Street 10 Mile Run 05/06/12 - Philadelphia, PA 1:30:44
Rock and Roll Half Marathon 09/16/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Philadelphia (Half?!?) Marathon 11/18/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Amen, Colinda. Couldn't have said it any better, as usual.
Oh I remember reading about your study! They are really great there. I am sorry about the cysts I do hope it works out. If not I feel like you'd be in good hands if you decide to stay OOP. Ask about donated meds. When I closed the book on IVF I donated a ton of Follistim and some other stuff. I know they have "a closet".
Also, when I was reading your posts about the study I thought you might be with Dr. Check. He runs a lot of studies. My SIL got her IVFs fully covered when she entered in a study with him. It was something about progesterone, and she got 2 free cycles and conceived her DD on the second one (and now she is pg with a 2 under 2 miracle oops baby). I think he is at Cooper?
Either way, GOOD LUCK!
DD #1 born 9/07 ** DD #2 born 7/11 ** Operation Take Back My Body has begun 10/11
Upcoming Races
Gobble Wobble 5K 11/24/11 - Abington, PA 29:40
Superbowl 10K 02/05/12 - Allentown, PA 54:28 PR!!!!
Broad Street 10 Mile Run 05/06/12 - Philadelphia, PA 1:30:44
Rock and Roll Half Marathon 09/16/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Philadelphia (Half?!?) Marathon 11/18/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Check is at Cooper - one of my friends swears by him and begged me to go see him. It wasn't really convenient to go over there, but it probably isn't much further than Abington actually. I'm going to look and see if he has anything going on now.
That's great to know about the meds. I'll have to check that out. Thanks!
And to Colindas post, this is the perfect place for me then! Thank you for having me.
Aurora Rose born sleeping at 35w on 4-21-10
BFP#2 {Almond} - 2.1.11 EDD 10.12.11 C/P 2.11.11
Well put.
* PG #1 2/26/09: mm/c 4/14/09 at 10w4d | PG #2 8/5/09: mm/c 9/29/09 at 11w3d (boy) *
* CP's 4/14/10, 9/1/10, 4/19/11, 5/24/11, 10/14/13, 11/16/13 *
* Ectopic 1/17/14 - nothing on u/s at 6w4d *
* PG #7 BFP 12/21/11 - DD born 8/31/12 *
* DH Dx'd with balanced translocation in 2011 *
Wow, okay this makes it official, I'm coming over here, because if there is any words that I could use to describe it is "I'm tired," and I really am. I've actually considered not coming here anymore because every time I see a BFP wave or countdowns to testing it just makes me so very frustrated that once again its not me, won't be me, can't possibly be me.
So if you'll have me, I'll be here.
Word. If I had a buddy, I would want them to be an IFer...hard to find on the regular board. But primarily, I was/am afraid of being the one "buddy" left behind. Plus, I didn't want to stuff my siggy anymore. It's quite full as-is
BFP #3 via cancelled IUI ~ C (2lb 3oz; HELLP) 5/16/11
BFP #4 via the natural (free!) way ~ E (8lb 11oz) 9/13/12
We're tired - CHECK - We're stressed - CHECK, and we're sick of the universe knocking us down DOUBLE CHECK
Definitely rings true...Thanks for having me...I'm trying to support others on TTCAL (hence the buddies, but I'm a terrible buddy), but when November is the perfect month to conceive, then I have to bang my head against a wall. How about any month is a perfect month to conceive.
BFP #1: 07/10/2009, Missed m/c, D&C 08/12/2009
BFP #2: 01/31/2010, Identical Twins died in utero due to TTTS, D&E 05/19/2010
BFP #3: 09/16/2010, natural m/c 9/21/2010
PCOS & Bocornuate Uterus Dx 1.4.2011
BFP #4: 01/11/2011
Major for this post Colinda.
For me, it had a lot to with where I was in my personal journey of TTC. I was ready to bite off the heads of many posters on TTCAL. It was hard to see BFPs for people who'd been on the board for 6 weeks. It was never about my 'friends' moving over or 'knowing more people over here'. JMO.
Missed m/c 11.09 | Missed m/c 3.10 | We miss you & love you so.
~ ~ ~
Formerly toddandjulie
Great post Colinda, you can always put what I'm feeling in perfect wording.
Jenn
3 IUI's all BFN
IVF#1 BFN IVF#2 BFP, loss at 19 weeks FET#1 BFN IVF#3 BFP, m/c FET#2 BFN
Missing our twins Zachary and Madison, lost at 19 weeks on 11/13/09, edd 4/9/10
BFP 7/17/10, m/c 7/25/10, edd 3/25/11
Ectopic, lost left tube 4/20/11, edd 12/6/11
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And when I'm not apathetic, I'm gleefully answering that question with misery and gloom, saying that if I got pg in November, it'd be awesomesauce that I'd miscarry on time to be able to get drunk on my bday in January.
Very well said.
I am also tired, and I am bitter I guess, because it took so long the first time to finally gett KU, that posts that says "OMG it's been 2 cycles of TTC & no line yet I'm so frustrated" I want to rip my hair out and scream.
Jill your a good buddy.
Thanks, Amye. And if I ripped my hair out every time I felt this way I'd have no hair left.
BFP #1: 07/10/2009, Missed m/c, D&C 08/12/2009
BFP #2: 01/31/2010, Identical Twins died in utero due to TTTS, D&E 05/19/2010
BFP #3: 09/16/2010, natural m/c 9/21/2010
PCOS & Bocornuate Uterus Dx 1.4.2011
BFP #4: 01/11/2011
Colinda is so good with explaining these things. She's awesome.May I also add that if I see someone come over here 2 months post loss whining about how "tired" they are, I may just punch them in the throat?
Made up example of why some of us just can't handle TTCAL anymore....
Zomg, I just had a miscarriage 4 weeks ago & I experienced EWCM (eww gross!!) 2 weeks ago & think I ovulated. DH & I did, um, you know, the "baby dance" three times. Now I'm having sore boobs and total food aversion. Do you guys think I'm preggers????
But, just to clear up any possible misconceptions, we don't JUST b*tch & get frustrated & bitter over here. There are many supportive, kind, silly, fun times as well. And you'd be hard pressed to find a more positive reaction to a BFP than over here.
These ladies totally get my dark & down times. But they're also my biggest cheerleaders.
You guys are the best!!!
Slugs. Habitual Aborting is just such a total mindfvck.
Also, excellent original post.
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Amen.
Chances are good that there will be tears with nearly every BFP on this board - tears, and anxiety, and hand-holding, and support, and individual pain expressed in the most supportive, loving, and understanding ways.
I love this place for its acknowledgement of the complexity of our responses to TTCAL.
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If I had a penis, it'd be so fvcking hard right now.
12 long, hard years of TTC-
Miscarriages, losses, lots of treatments & drugs & IVF
Natural BFP (WTF?!) - 06/04/11 ~ lots of complication and drama, but sweet baby Adele born 02/07/12!
BFP #million -another girl for us! EDD - 05-08-15 (but will come early)
If I had a penis, it'd be so fvcking hard right now.
12 long, hard years of TTC-
Miscarriages, losses, lots of treatments & drugs & IVF
Natural BFP (WTF?!) - 06/04/11 ~ lots of complication and drama, but sweet baby Adele born 02/07/12!
BFP #million -another girl for us! EDD - 05-08-15 (but will come early)
::dies::
This whole thread sums it up.