I just find it ironic that I see posts on here every other minute from half of the posters in this thread talking about what they had for lunch or as a snack each day. Most of these people post fast food items, dairy queen blizzards, Starbucks drinks, etc. as frequent parts of their diet.
Yet these same people that are eating diets that contribute to things like GD are telling the mothers that restrict what they eat and NEVER touch foods like that they THEY are the ones that are irresponsible and putting their child at risk.
Go on and eat whatever you want to and then react to the problem when it happens. There are some of us that don't have to worry about it because we watch what we eat, exercise every day, and monitor our glucose levels in other ways.
Your diets are doing far more harm to your baby IMO.
You don't see me posting that stuff. I don't even read those threads. I have GD even though I had no markers or whatever. I get a craving for something and I ignore it... for my child. So don't lump me in that category.
And for the record, I don't eat fast food. I don't drink coffee. I have never, in 36 years, tasted coffee and have no desire to. The smell revolts me. I have also never had a hamburger from McDonalds, or a Big mac, or a whopper or anything else that could be considered fast food... EVER. Not even as a kid. I have had a few orders of fries in my life... maybe 1 or 2 a year, but I don't eat that junk. Does that mean I wouldn't like to dive in a vat of egg nog right about now? Oh yes I would.... but I won't. I sacrifice all the time for my child. And still got GD. Ain't life a biitch?
You once said that you used to eat pasta every single day and you were bummed because now that you have GD you can't have it as often. Pasta every day can contribute to GD FWIW.
You once said that you used to eat pasta every single day and you were bummed because now that you have GD you can't have it as often. Pasta every day can contribute to GD FWIW.
Eating pasta everyday is a term you took too literal. I'm Italian and we eat it a lot. But it's not every day. I think that would get boring fast. However, now when I eat pasta I eat Dreamfield's past which is safe for diabetics and glucose levels. I tell my BF "You eat Wendy's everyday" but he goes once or twice a week. Sorry you filed that blurb of mine away for future use. Had I know, I would have been more clear.
I guess you just don't have much to say since I disputed your dietary concerns.
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I just wanted to add my name to the list of those that had absolutely no markers for GD and had it anyway. When I was PG with DS #1 I had no family history and no weight issues. My urine always came back clean. I ended up with it anyway.
I will say though, that I hated the glucose drink so much that it literally made me puke so when I got PG with my DD I asked my OB if there were any other options other than drinking that crappy drink. He gave me the option instead of giving him 30 days worth of 4x a day blood sugar readings (since I already had all the stuff from DS #1). That was MUCH more invasive and very much, literally, a pain, but I chose to do that instead. I felt that it was more accurate anyway. Guess what? I had it again. I'll probably be doing the same for this baby #3.
If you don't want to do the test, ask yourself why exactly. It's really not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things and if you do have GD you really need to work with your OB or midwife to make sure you are doing all you need to do to protect your baby.
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I just find it ironic that I see posts on here every other minute from half of the posters in this thread talking about what they had for lunch or as a snack each day. Most of these people post fast food items, dairy queen blizzards, Starbucks drinks, etc. as frequent parts of their diet.
Yet these same people that are eating diets that contribute to things like GD are telling the mothers that restrict what they eat and NEVER touch foods like that they THEY are the ones that are irresponsible and putting their child at risk.
Go on and eat whatever you want to and then react to the problem when it happens. There are some of us that don't have to worry about it because we watch what we eat, exercise every day, and monitor our glucose levels in other ways.
Your diets are doing far more harm to your baby IMO.
You don't see me posting that stuff. I don't even read those threads. I have GD even though I had no markers or whatever. I get a craving for something and I ignore it... for my child. So don't lump me in that category.
And for the record, I don't eat fast food. I don't drink coffee. I have never, in 36 years, tasted coffee and have no desire to. The smell revolts me. I have also never had a hamburger from McDonalds, or a Big mac, or a whopper or anything else that could be considered fast food... EVER. Not even as a kid. I have had a few orders of fries in my life... maybe 1 or 2 a year, but I don't eat that junk. Does that mean I wouldn't like to dive in a vat of egg nog right about now? Oh yes I would.... but I won't. I sacrifice all the time for my child. And still got GD. Ain't life a biitch?
You once said that you used to eat pasta every single day and you were bummed because now that you have GD you can't have it as often. Pasta every day can contribute to GD FWIW.
I'm just curious Adamwife, do you also think you're not at risk for heart disease, lung cancer, pneumonia, etc?
You once said that you used to eat pasta every single day and you were bummed because now that you have GD you can't have it as often. Pasta every day can contribute to GD FWIW.
Eating pasta everyday is a term you took too literal. I'm Italian and we eat it a lot. But it's not every day. I think that would get boring fast. However, now when I eat pasta I eat Dreamfield's past which is safe for diabetics and glucose levels. I tell my BF "You eat Wendy's everyday" but he goes once or twice a week. Sorry you filed that blurb of mine away for future use. Had I know, I would have been more clear.
I guess you just don't have much to say since I disputed your dietary concerns.
My post about pasta is a moderation issue. I used to have pasta everyday. Some sort of pasta...
Now it's in moderation.
Perhaps you meant something different than you typed. The only reason I remember this post is because you spent one day telling me how irresposible I am for choosing a midwife for my care that monitors my diet and tells me if I'm gaining too much weight. You said a midwife is playing doctor by telling you what to eat and how much weight to gain. I thought it was funny because maybe if you had been seeing a midwife who was monitoring what you eated from the start of your pregnancy you wouldn't have these problems.
You should probably try to be more clear. Usually when someone says that they do something every day, that means they do something every day.
My post about pasta is a moderation issue. I used to have pasta everyday. Some sort of pasta...
Now it's in moderation.
Perhaps you meant something different than you typed. The only reason I remember this post is because you spent one day telling me how irresposible I am for choosing a midwife for my care that monitors my diet and tells me if I'm gaining too much weight. You said a midwife is playing doctor by telling you what to eat and how much weight to gain. I thought it was funny because maybe if you had been seeing a midwife who was monitoring what you eated from the start of your pregnancy you wouldn't have these problems.
You should probably try to be more clear. Usually when someone says that they do something every day, that means they do something every day.
First of all, are you effing kidding me? You catalog every post I've contributed to??
As I said, saying everyday was an exaggeration. I'll be sure to speak only in literal terms from now on. I also may have said I could eat 5 tons of candy corn for Halloween, but I think I'll fall short of that in trying. I know when you're grasping at straws you'll look for everything.
Seriously though... I didn't realize you were making a scrapbook of my posts. Actually, it's kind of creepy. I'm sure you made a log in on my website also. I guess I'll have to start deleting names I don't recognize.
Second... did you really say "monitoring what you eated"??? Come on adamwife, I thought if anything you were at least more well spoken than that.
Also, you do realize that diabetes of any sort comes from the pancreas' inability to produce enough insulin. It can happen to anyone, no matter how they eat. If it was just that I wasn't eating right and now I am, the GD would go away. But it doesn't work that way. It's not the foods I was eating. It's the pancreas I was born with. Blame my mom. Maybe my dad too.
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I'm just curious Adamwife, do you also think you're not at risk for heart disease, lung cancer, pneumonia, etc?
Now you're just being silly. Of course I'm at risk - I'm human.
I'm also at risk to get AIDS because I'm human. But I also take preventative measures to keep myself from contracting it, including not using drugs/dirty needles, not having sex with anyone but my husband, and not coming in contact with the bodily fluids of other people without protection. Because of this, I don't have to get an AIDS test every year. If I ever stopped taking those precautions, I may want to consider getting an AIDS test every now and then.
Listen, I realize that anyone can get any disease. I just personally don't feel like every woman needs the GD test, and there are many doctors and healthcare professionals around the world that agree - just look at maternity care in places outside of the US.
Get the test if you want to - don't get the test if you don't. You're not a better mother because you choose to get a test or because you choose to take preventative measures for certain diseases. You just have a different healthcare philosophy.
My post about pasta is a moderation issue. I used to have pasta everyday. Some sort of pasta...
Now it's in moderation.
Perhaps you meant something different than you typed. The only reason I remember this post is because you spent one day telling me how irresposible I am for choosing a midwife for my care that monitors my diet and tells me if I'm gaining too much weight. You said a midwife is playing doctor by telling you what to eat and how much weight to gain. I thought it was funny because maybe if you had been seeing a midwife who was monitoring what you eated from the start of your pregnancy you wouldn't have these problems.
You should probably try to be more clear. Usually when someone says that they do something every day, that means they do something every day.
First of all, are you effing kidding me? You catalog every post I've contributed to??
As I said, saying everyday was an exaggeration. I'll be sure to speak only in literal terms from now on. I also may have said I could eat 5 tons of candy corn for Halloween, but I think I'll fall short of that in trying. I know when you're grasping at straws you'll look for everything.
Seriously though... I didn't realize you were making a scrapbook of my posts. Actually, it's kind of creepy. I'm sure you made a log in on my website also. I guess I'll have to start deleting names I don't recognize.
Second... did you really say "monitoring what you eated"??? Come on adamwife, I thought if anything you were at least more well spoken than that.
Also, you do realize that diabetes of any sort comes from the pancreas' inability to produce enough insulin. It can happen to anyone, no matter how they eat. If it was just that I wasn't eating right and now I am, the GD would go away. But it doesn't work that way. It's not the foods I was eating. It's the pancreas I was born with. Blame my mom. Maybe my dad too.
It's easy to look back at your posts and find one. I distinctly remember this one of yours because it struck me as so funny.
Also, once again I am stunned that a trained nurse is actually trying to argue that your diet does not play a role in GD. What DO they teach in nursing school?
My kids are awake now. I have to go be a mother now (even if it's a bad one that refuses tests). It's been fun.
I'm just curious Adamwife, do you also think you're not at risk for heart disease, lung cancer, pneumonia, etc?
Now you're just being silly. Of course I'm at risk - I'm human.
I'm also at risk to get AIDS because I'm human. But I also take preventative measures to keep myself from contracting it, including not using drugs/dirty needles, not having sex with anyone but my husband, and not coming in contact with the bodily fluids of other people without protection. Because of this, I don't have to get an AIDS test every year. If I ever stopped taking those precautions, I may want to consider getting an AIDS test every now and then.
Listen, I realize that anyone can get any disease. I just personally don't feel like every woman needs the GD test, and there are many doctors and healthcare professionals around the world that agree - just look at maternity care in places outside of the US.
Get the test if you want to - don't get the test if you don't. You're not a better mother because you choose to get a test or because you choose to take preventative measures for certain diseases. You just have a different healthcare philosophy.
Exactly, you're human. And now you're a pregnant human. It doesn't matter if there are no markers for the disease, you're pregnant that means you're at risk. Its pretty cut and dry. Why risk it?
Unfortunately, on this site, I have seen NOT ONE single story of a midwife being sensible. I am still waiting. All I hear is that some midwife told them to do something completely off the beaten path, and against proven sciences.
If midwives are being given a bad rap, then these people need to stop posting stupid crap and crediting the source as their midwife. Maybe then a lot of people wouldn't see them the way they do.
And yes, I have run into my fair share of idiot docs also. And I let them know about it and never went back to them.
There are entire countries (and not developing ones) that strictly use midwives, and only bring in OBs in cases of complications. I don't think it is logical to say that every midwife is unsensible. The truth is that Americans are raised to believe that doctors are the only way to go and if you go any alternative route you must be crazy and not care about your health. It is sad.
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Also, once again I am stunned that a trained nurse is actually trying to argue that your diet does not play a role in GD. What DO they teach in nursing school?
My kids are awake now. I have to go be a mother now (even if it's a bad one that refuses tests). It's been fun.
I guess I went to the same school this girl is learning to be a midwife from.
As for the rest of your post about preventing things like AIDS... even though I'm sure you meant HIV (considering AIDS comes from HIV) all I can say is this.
I hope you never get cancer or any other disease. Because if you do, you're going to wonder "but wait... I ate right, I didn't use certain chemicals, I exercised. How could this happen?"
Here is the simple answer. This is better than any answer that I can give you for the rest of this thread. "SHIIT HAPPENS".
No matter how hard you try and no matter what you do to prevent, it still sneaks up on you.
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Why would you opt out of a perfectly risk free test to make sure you and the baby are healthy?? That just doesnt compute to me. As a mother, I want to be sure I do EVERYTHING to make sure my baby is safe, and that I am healthy.. Choosing not to just sounds lazy to me.
Also, once again I am stunned that a trained nurse is actually trying to argue that your diet does not play a role in GD. What DO they teach in nursing school?
My kids are awake now. I have to go be a mother now (even if it's a bad one that refuses tests). It's been fun.
I guess I went to the same school this girl is learning to be a midwife from.
As for the rest of your post about preventing things like AIDS... even though I'm sure you meant HIV (considering AIDS comes from HIV) all I can say is this.
I hope you never get cancer or any other disease. Because if you do, you're going to wonder "but wait... I ate right, I didn't use certain chemicals, I exercised. How could this happen?"
Here is the simple answer. This is better than any answer that I can give you for the rest of this thread. "SHIIT HAPPENS".
No matter how hard you try and no matter what you do to prevent, it still sneaks up on you.
Maybe thats the terminology I should have used because she clearly didn't see my point with that post. Oh well, if she wants to opt out so be it, but if she ends up GD she can't say we didn't try to warn her.
Maybe thats the terminology I should have used because she clearly didn't see my point with that post. Oh well, if she wants to opt out so be it, but if she ends up GD she can't say we didn't try to warn her.
She doesn't get that it's like saying you're a good driver so you don't need a car seat. Doesn't matter. Sometimes things happen outside of your control. (Insert their "But they don't use them in all countries... and they didn't have them when we were kids" argument. That's also like saying "why take antibiotics because they don't have them in some countries and back in the old days they didn't have them."
She is a die-hard flag waver. She listens to nothing. I'm seriously
going to check all the screen names on my website though. She's
cataloging all my posts or something. I mean all of that other
Emjay's. lol. She might be on my site lurking. *shiver*
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Maybe thats the terminology I should have used because she clearly didn't see my point with that post. Oh well, if she wants to opt out so be it, but if she ends up GD she can't say we didn't try to warn her.
She doesn't get that it's like saying you're a good driver so you don't need a car seat. Doesn't matter. Sometimes things happen outside of your control. (Insert their "But they don't use them in all countries... and they didn't have them when we were kids" argument. That's also like saying "why take antibiotics because they don't have them in some countries and back in the old days they didn't have them."
She is a die-hard flag waver. She listens to nothing. I'm seriously going to check all the screen names on my website though. She's cataloging all my posts or something. I mean all of that other Emjay's. lol. She might be on my site lurking. *shiver*
Boo adamswife. You just had to ruin it for everyone. I was going to contribute to BGP... eventually.
Maybe thats the terminology I should have used because she clearly didn't see my point with that post. Oh well, if she wants to opt out so be it, but if she ends up GD she can't say we didn't try to warn her.
She doesn't get that it's like saying you're a good driver so you don't need a car seat. Doesn't matter. Sometimes things happen outside of your control. (Insert their "But they don't use them in all countries... and they didn't have them when we were kids" argument. That's also like saying "why take antibiotics because they don't have them in some countries and back in the old days they didn't have them."
She is a die-hard flag waver. She listens to nothing. I'm seriously going to check all the screen names on my website though. She's cataloging all my posts or something. I mean all of that other Emjay's. lol. She might be on my site lurking. *shiver*
Yeah, its one thing to remember a post because it got a lot of attention its another to catalog them. That other Emjay is just getting you in trouble for nothing! lol.
Yeah, its one thing to remember a post because it got a lot of attention its another to catalog them. That other Emjay is just getting you in trouble for nothing! lol.
ALWAYS!! I get blamed for everything. :-) I'm telling you, you'd fit in with us, come visit...
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I just find it ironic that I see posts on here every other minute from half of the posters in this thread talking about what they had for lunch or as a snack each day. Most of these people post fast food items, dairy queen blizzards, Starbucks drinks, etc. as frequent parts of their diet.
Yet these same people that are eating diets that contribute to things like GD are telling the mothers that restrict what they eat and NEVER touch foods like that they THEY are the ones that are irresponsible and putting their child at risk.
Go on and eat whatever you want to and then react to the problem when it happens. There are some of us that don't have to worry about it because we watch what we eat, exercise every day, and monitor our glucose levels in other ways.
Your diets are doing far more harm to your baby IMO.
FYI, you can get GD even if you do everything right. I am not overweight (nor is anyone in my immediate family), no history of diabetes, I was always active pre-pregnancy and during my pregnancy, only gained 30lbs, and ate a balanced diet (no fast food) and I still got it. I asked my OB if I could follow any special diet to avoid getting it this time around and he said no-if I was going to get it, I was going to get it no matter what.
It makes sense when people make an educated decision to not avoid eating lunch meat for example since listeria is extremely rare. GD is not rare, and half of all cases exist in women with zero risk factors. It's common enough that I think not testing for it is really an unwise decision. Especially since it's a simple blood test, there is zero risk to the baby, and it takes all of an hour to perform. I don't really understand why someone wouldn't do it personally.
Listen up, people. What you eat CANNOT CAUSE YOU TO GET GESTATIONAL DIABETES. Christ on a cracker, that's been driving me crazy.
And Emjay, dear? It's not stalking someone to pull up an old post to prove a point. You like to throw that term around a lot ("stalking") but honestly, the bump never forgets.
If your doctor suspects you have gestational diabetes or you've been diagnosed with this condition, you can help control the condition by making healthy lifestyle choices. Don't delay your appointment to start care for gestational diabetes. Every week counts for you and your baby. Follow your doctor's recommendations, and take good care of yourself. Eat healthy foods, exercise, and take time to learn as much as you can about gestational diabetes.
Diet.Eating the right kind and amount of food is one of the best ways to control your blood sugar level.Making healthy food choices also helps prevent excessive weight gain during pregnancy, which can put you at higher risk of complications.
Exercise.Exercise lowers your blood sugar level by transporting sugar to your cells, where it's used for energy. Exercise also increases your sensitivity to insulin, which means your body needs less insulin to transport sugar to your cells. And there's more. Regular exercise can help prevent some of the discomforts of pregnancy, such as back pain, muscle cramps, swelling, constipation and difficulty sleeping. It can also help prepare you for labor and delivery.
If treatment for GD involves a healthy diet and exercise, it is logical that by eating right and exercising from the start of your pregnancy, you can lower your risk of getting GD. I am now waiting for emjay to tell me that she doesn't trust the Mayo Clinic either.
If treatment for GD involves a healthy diet and exercise, it is logical that by eating right and exercising from the start of your pregnancy, you can lower your risk of getting GD. I am now waiting for emjay to tell me that she doesn't trust the Mayo Clinic either.
Not so. If you follow a healthy diet and exercise from the start of pregnancy, you can still develop GD. It may just be better regulated.
If treatment for GD involves a healthy diet and exercise, it is logical that by eating right and exercising from the start of your pregnancy, you can lower your risk of getting GD. I am now waiting for emjay to tell me that she doesn't trust the Mayo Clinic either.
Not so. If you follow a healthy diet and exercise from the start of pregnancy, you can still develop GD. It may just be better regulated.
That is extremely true Lucy. Adamwife, it says lower your risk, it doesn't take that risk away entirely!!!
If your doctor suspects you have gestational diabetes or you've been diagnosed with this condition, you can help control the condition by making healthy lifestyle choices. Don't delay your appointment to start care for gestational diabetes. Every week counts for you and your baby.
Read your own post adamswife. You can help control the condition. But where does it say you can prevent the condition?
Sorry Cruel :-( ... I had to quote it to get her to see which part I meant.
~adamwife~:
I am now waiting for emjay to tell me that she doesn't trust the Mayo Clinic either.
As for this... it's not them I don't trust. It's your interpretation of it.
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Listen up, people. What you eat CANNOT CAUSE YOU TO GET GESTATIONAL DIABETES. Christ on a cracker, that's been driving me crazy.
And Emjay, dear? It's not stalking someone to pull up an old post to prove a point. You like to throw that term around a lot ("stalking") but honestly, the bump never forgets.
For ONCE I actually agree with something you said... but only because I've been saying it all along.
Also, when you can pull up a post from 6 weeks ago, in less than a minute or so, that's a little weird. She is always quoting this that I said, or that. You may be a whole 12 weeks pregnant, and feel like you want to run around with the big girls over here, but you know nothing of the situation between adamwife and I. Shouldn't you be on 1st tri overseeing an intelligender post?
As for "Emjay, dear?" You strike me as one of those people that if I
ever met in public, I might forget it's a felony to run someone over.
Your lame attempt at being condescending is sad. I assume, though, that's why you have Patty Simcox as your avatar.
LOL. The bump never forgets? It's a website. Not some holy entity...
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If your doctor suspects you have gestational diabetes or you've been diagnosed with this condition, you can help control the condition by making healthy lifestyle choices. Don't delay your appointment to start care for gestational diabetes. Every week counts for you and your baby. Follow your doctor's recommendations, and take good care of yourself. Eat healthy foods, exercise, and take time to learn as much as you can about gestational diabetes.
Diet.Eating the right kind and amount of food is one of the best ways to control your blood sugar level.Making healthy food choices also helps prevent excessive weight gain during pregnancy, which can put you at higher risk of complications.
Exercise.Exercise lowers your blood sugar level by transporting sugar to your cells, where it's used for energy. Exercise also increases your sensitivity to insulin, which means your body needs less insulin to transport sugar to your cells. And there's more. Regular exercise can help prevent some of the discomforts of pregnancy, such as back pain, muscle cramps, swelling, constipation and difficulty sleeping. It can also help prepare you for labor and delivery.
If treatment for GD involves a healthy diet and exercise, it is logical that by eating right and exercising from the start of your pregnancy, you can lower your risk of getting GD. I am now waiting for emjay to tell me that she doesn't trust the Mayo Clinic either.
All this speaks to is controlling the condition once you have it, not prevention. The logical inference you drawing is exactly that, your inference, not what the Mayo Clinic is saying. What about the parts where the Mayo Clinic says not to delay care if you have GD because every week counts for you and the baby? How would you know for sure unless you take the test? Sorry dear, your source does not support your logic. Nice try.
My SIL was diagnosed with GD on her 3rd pregnancy, after never having it with either her 1st or 2nd one. She was a healthy weight pre-pregnancy, active, and nothing about her diet had changed between her earlier pregnancies and this most recent one. She had no "markers" either. She also developed uncontrollable blood pressure problems as well with the 3rd pregnancy, that she never experienced before. As other posters have pointed out, sometimes shit_happens, even if you are doing everything "right" or have no indications that anything is wrong. Thanks to routine screenings, she had another healthy baby.
I cannot imagine any good reason to skip a routine screening measure that can have such serious consequences if you are wrong.
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By the way... let me add that I'm pretty tired of having to scroll down, go to threads I'm watching, scroll down again to choose page 4 because the stupid sort feature never works, and continue to state the obvious.
I'm done with this thread. I really hope something more interesting comes up.
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Listen up, people. What you eat CANNOT CAUSE YOU TO GET GESTATIONAL DIABETES. Christ on a cracker, that's been driving me crazy.
And Emjay, dear? It's not stalking someone to pull up an old post to prove a point. You like to throw that term around a lot ("stalking") but honestly, the bump never forgets.
For ONCE I actually agree with something you said... but only because I've been saying it all along.
Also, when you can pull up a post from 6 weeks ago, in less than a minute or so, that's a little weird. She is always quoting this that I said, or that. You may be a whole 12 weeks pregnant, and feel like you want to run around with the big girls over here, but you know nothing of the situation between adamwife and I. Shouldn't you be on 1st tri overseeing an intelligender post?
As for "Emjay, dear?" You strike me as one of those people that if I
ever met in public, I might forget it's a felony to run someone over.
Your lame attempt at being condescending is sad. I assume, though, that's why you have Patty Simcox as your avatar.
LOL. The bump never forgets? It's a website. Not some holy entity...
LOL - Pretty sure jenerally is a way bigger girl than you emjay...you obviously are a newbie ;-)
emjay - I've quoted you maybe twice. I'm sorry, but ever since you spent an entire day trying to tell me I was unfit to be a parent because I choose to see a MW instead of an OB, you sort of rubbed me the wrong way. Get over yourself, quoting you twice doesn't mean I have a crush on you or something. lol
And BTW, jenerally has been around here for a long time. We were on the tri-boards together the last time. Jen knows a lot more about me than you pretend to. Let's also not pretend that somehow you are queen of this board because your ute is bigger than hers at this moment in time.
And as for the rest of this whole post, I'm sticking with what I said, which is that eating a healthy diet and exercising significantly decreases your risk of getting GD. If you have a healthcare practitioner who is closely monitoring your diet, activity level, weight, and also testing your urine at every appt, I see no reason to get the test. I understand that there are others who disagree, and that's fine. I don't judge your parenting skills for your healthcare decisions, so let's leave mine out of it too. I don't think there is much else for me to say here.
I am kind of a lurker around here, but I just have to jump in here and say something that, as far as I've noticed hasn't been mentioned.
Gestational diabetes is NOT always controllable by diet and working out. Sometimes, it requires pills, or even insulin to be controlled. I have GD, and up until this point, it's been completely controlled by diet. However, my numbers have been slowly creeping up, with no change to what I am doing, or how I am doing it. My doctor mentioned that it may end up that I will be on medication, if they go up much more. This is NOT something that can be prevented. It is also not something that is always controllable how you think it is.
Re: Anyone else refusing glucose tolerance test?
Thank you for clearing that question up. I am not surprised.
You once said that you used to eat pasta every single day and you were bummed because now that you have GD you can't have it as often. Pasta every day can contribute to GD FWIW.
Eating pasta everyday is a term you took too literal. I'm Italian and we eat it a lot. But it's not every day. I think that would get boring fast. However, now when I eat pasta I eat Dreamfield's past which is safe for diabetics and glucose levels. I tell my BF "You eat Wendy's everyday" but he goes once or twice a week. Sorry you filed that blurb of mine away for future use. Had I know, I would have been more clear.
I guess you just don't have much to say since I disputed your dietary concerns.
I just wanted to add my name to the list of those that had absolutely no markers for GD and had it anyway. When I was PG with DS #1 I had no family history and no weight issues. My urine always came back clean. I ended up with it anyway.
I will say though, that I hated the glucose drink so much that it literally made me puke so when I got PG with my DD I asked my OB if there were any other options other than drinking that crappy drink. He gave me the option instead of giving him 30 days worth of 4x a day blood sugar readings (since I already had all the stuff from DS #1). That was MUCH more invasive and very much, literally, a pain, but I chose to do that instead. I felt that it was more accurate anyway. Guess what? I had it again. I'll probably be doing the same for this baby #3.
If you don't want to do the test, ask yourself why exactly. It's really not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things and if you do have GD you really need to work with your OB or midwife to make sure you are doing all you need to do to protect your baby.
I'm just curious Adamwife, do you also think you're not at risk for heart disease, lung cancer, pneumonia, etc?
https://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/43350795.aspx
Specifically this part of the post:
My post about pasta is a moderation issue. I used to have pasta everyday. Some sort of pasta...
Now it's in moderation.
Perhaps you meant something different than you typed. The only reason I remember this post is because you spent one day telling me how irresposible I am for choosing a midwife for my care that monitors my diet and tells me if I'm gaining too much weight. You said a midwife is playing doctor by telling you what to eat and how much weight to gain. I thought it was funny because maybe if you had been seeing a midwife who was monitoring what you eated from the start of your pregnancy you wouldn't have these problems.
You should probably try to be more clear. Usually when someone says that they do something every day, that means they do something every day.
First of all, are you effing kidding me? You catalog every post I've contributed to??
As I said, saying everyday was an exaggeration. I'll be sure to speak only in literal terms from now on. I also may have said I could eat 5 tons of candy corn for Halloween, but I think I'll fall short of that in trying. I know when you're grasping at straws you'll look for everything.
Seriously though... I didn't realize you were making a scrapbook of my posts. Actually, it's kind of creepy. I'm sure you made a log in on my website also. I guess I'll have to start deleting names I don't recognize.
Second... did you really say "monitoring what you eated"??? Come on adamwife, I thought if anything you were at least more well spoken than that.
Also, you do realize that diabetes of any sort comes from the pancreas' inability to produce enough insulin. It can happen to anyone, no matter how they eat. If it was just that I wasn't eating right and now I am, the GD would go away. But it doesn't work that way. It's not the foods I was eating. It's the pancreas I was born with. Blame my mom. Maybe my dad too.
Actually, wait. I take that all back. I don't know Emjay221. Our names are pure coincidence.
*puts on sunglasses and backs into the shadows*
HAHA
Now you're just being silly. Of course I'm at risk - I'm human.
I'm also at risk to get AIDS because I'm human. But I also take preventative measures to keep myself from contracting it, including not using drugs/dirty needles, not having sex with anyone but my husband, and not coming in contact with the bodily fluids of other people without protection. Because of this, I don't have to get an AIDS test every year. If I ever stopped taking those precautions, I may want to consider getting an AIDS test every now and then.
Listen, I realize that anyone can get any disease. I just personally don't feel like every woman needs the GD test, and there are many doctors and healthcare professionals around the world that agree - just look at maternity care in places outside of the US.
Get the test if you want to - don't get the test if you don't. You're not a better mother because you choose to get a test or because you choose to take preventative measures for certain diseases. You just have a different healthcare philosophy.
You crack me up.
It's easy to look back at your posts and find one. I distinctly remember this one of yours because it struck me as so funny.
Also, once again I am stunned that a trained nurse is actually trying to argue that your diet does not play a role in GD. What DO they teach in nursing school?
My kids are awake now. I have to go be a mother now (even if it's a bad one that refuses tests). It's been fun.
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Exactly, you're human. And now you're a pregnant human. It doesn't matter if there are no markers for the disease, you're pregnant that means you're at risk. Its pretty cut and dry. Why risk it?
There are entire countries (and not developing ones) that strictly use midwives, and only bring in OBs in cases of complications. I don't think it is logical to say that every midwife is unsensible. The truth is that Americans are raised to believe that doctors are the only way to go and if you go any alternative route you must be crazy and not care about your health. It is sad.
I guess I went to the same school this girl is learning to be a midwife from.
As for the rest of your post about preventing things like AIDS... even though I'm sure you meant HIV (considering AIDS comes from HIV) all I can say is this.
I hope you never get cancer or any other disease. Because if you do, you're going to wonder "but wait... I ate right, I didn't use certain chemicals, I exercised. How could this happen?"
Here is the simple answer. This is better than any answer that I can give you for the rest of this thread. "SHIIT HAPPENS".
No matter how hard you try and no matter what you do to prevent, it still sneaks up on you.
Come hang out with us some time on my site. We have fun over there.
Maybe thats the terminology I should have used because she clearly didn't see my point with that post. Oh well, if she wants to opt out so be it, but if she ends up GD she can't say we didn't try to warn her.
She doesn't get that it's like saying you're a good driver so you don't need a car seat. Doesn't matter. Sometimes things happen outside of your control. (Insert their "But they don't use them in all countries... and they didn't have them when we were kids" argument. That's also like saying "why take antibiotics because they don't have them in some countries and back in the old days they didn't have them."
She is a die-hard flag waver. She listens to nothing. I'm seriously going to check all the screen names on my website though. She's cataloging all my posts or something. I mean all of that other Emjay's. lol. She might be on my site lurking. *shiver*
Boo adamswife. You just had to ruin it for everyone. I was going to contribute to BGP... eventually.
Yeah, its one thing to remember a post because it got a lot of attention its another to catalog them. That other Emjay is just getting you in trouble for nothing! lol.
ALWAYS!! I get blamed for everything. :-) I'm telling you, you'd fit in with us, come visit...
FYI, you can get GD even if you do everything right. I am not overweight (nor is anyone in my immediate family), no history of diabetes, I was always active pre-pregnancy and during my pregnancy, only gained 30lbs, and ate a balanced diet (no fast food) and I still got it. I asked my OB if I could follow any special diet to avoid getting it this time around and he said no-if I was going to get it, I was going to get it no matter what.
It makes sense when people make an educated decision to not avoid eating lunch meat for example since listeria is extremely rare. GD is not rare, and half of all cases exist in women with zero risk factors. It's common enough that I think not testing for it is really an unwise decision. Especially since it's a simple blood test, there is zero risk to the baby, and it takes all of an hour to perform. I don't really understand why someone wouldn't do it personally.
Listen up, people. What you eat CANNOT CAUSE YOU TO GET GESTATIONAL DIABETES. Christ on a cracker, that's been driving me crazy.
And Emjay, dear? It's not stalking someone to pull up an old post to prove a point. You like to throw that term around a lot ("stalking") but honestly, the bump never forgets.
Taken from https://www.mayoclinic.com/health/gestational-diabetes/DS00316 (emphasis mine)
If your doctor suspects you have gestational diabetes or you've been diagnosed with this condition, you can help control the condition by making healthy lifestyle choices. Don't delay your appointment to start care for gestational diabetes. Every week counts for you and your baby. Follow your doctor's recommendations, and take good care of yourself. Eat healthy foods, exercise, and take time to learn as much as you can about gestational diabetes.
Diet. Eating the right kind and amount of food is one of the best ways to control your blood sugar level. Making healthy food choices also helps prevent excessive weight gain during pregnancy, which can put you at higher risk of complications.
Exercise. Exercise lowers your blood sugar level by transporting sugar to your cells, where it's used for energy. Exercise also increases your sensitivity to insulin, which means your body needs less insulin to transport sugar to your cells. And there's more. Regular exercise can help prevent some of the discomforts of pregnancy, such as back pain, muscle cramps, swelling, constipation and difficulty sleeping. It can also help prepare you for labor and delivery.
If treatment for GD involves a healthy diet and exercise, it is logical that by eating right and exercising from the start of your pregnancy, you can lower your risk of getting GD. I am now waiting for emjay to tell me that she doesn't trust the Mayo Clinic either.
Not so. If you follow a healthy diet and exercise from the start of pregnancy, you can still develop GD. It may just be better regulated.
That is extremely true Lucy. Adamwife, it says lower your risk, it doesn't take that risk away entirely!!!
Read your own post adamswife. You can help control the condition. But where does it say you can prevent the condition?
Sorry Cruel :-( ... I had to quote it to get her to see which part I meant.
As for this... it's not them I don't trust. It's your interpretation of it.
For ONCE I actually agree with something you said... but only because I've been saying it all along.
Also, when you can pull up a post from 6 weeks ago, in less than a minute or so, that's a little weird. She is always quoting this that I said, or that. You may be a whole 12 weeks pregnant, and feel like you want to run around with the big girls over here, but you know nothing of the situation between adamwife and I. Shouldn't you be on 1st tri overseeing an intelligender post?
As for "Emjay, dear?" You strike me as one of those people that if I ever met in public, I might forget it's a felony to run someone over. Your lame attempt at being condescending is sad. I assume, though, that's why you have Patty Simcox as your avatar.
LOL. The bump never forgets? It's a website. Not some holy entity...
All this speaks to is controlling the condition once you have it, not prevention. The logical inference you drawing is exactly that, your inference, not what the Mayo Clinic is saying. What about the parts where the Mayo Clinic says not to delay care if you have GD because every week counts for you and the baby? How would you know for sure unless you take the test? Sorry dear, your source does not support your logic. Nice try.
My SIL was diagnosed with GD on her 3rd pregnancy, after never having it with either her 1st or 2nd one. She was a healthy weight pre-pregnancy, active, and nothing about her diet had changed between her earlier pregnancies and this most recent one. She had no "markers" either. She also developed uncontrollable blood pressure problems as well with the 3rd pregnancy, that she never experienced before. As other posters have pointed out, sometimes shit_happens, even if you are doing everything "right" or have no indications that anything is wrong. Thanks to routine screenings, she had another healthy baby.
I cannot imagine any good reason to skip a routine screening measure that can have such serious consequences if you are wrong.
By the way... let me add that I'm pretty tired of having to scroll down, go to threads I'm watching, scroll down again to choose page 4 because the stupid sort feature never works, and continue to state the obvious.
I'm done with this thread. I really hope something more interesting comes up.
LOL - Pretty sure jenerally is a way bigger girl than you emjay...you obviously are a newbie ;-)
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emjay - I've quoted you maybe twice. I'm sorry, but ever since you spent an entire day trying to tell me I was unfit to be a parent because I choose to see a MW instead of an OB, you sort of rubbed me the wrong way. Get over yourself, quoting you twice doesn't mean I have a crush on you or something. lol
And BTW, jenerally has been around here for a long time. We were on the tri-boards together the last time. Jen knows a lot more about me than you pretend to. Let's also not pretend that somehow you are queen of this board because your ute is bigger than hers at this moment in time.
And as for the rest of this whole post, I'm sticking with what I said, which is that eating a healthy diet and exercising significantly decreases your risk of getting GD. If you have a healthcare practitioner who is closely monitoring your diet, activity level, weight, and also testing your urine at every appt, I see no reason to get the test. I understand that there are others who disagree, and that's fine. I don't judge your parenting skills for your healthcare decisions, so let's leave mine out of it too. I don't think there is much else for me to say here.
I am kind of a lurker around here, but I just have to jump in here and say something that, as far as I've noticed hasn't been mentioned.
Gestational diabetes is NOT always controllable by diet and working out. Sometimes, it requires pills, or even insulin to be controlled. I have GD, and up until this point, it's been completely controlled by diet. However, my numbers have been slowly creeping up, with no change to what I am doing, or how I am doing it. My doctor mentioned that it may end up that I will be on medication, if they go up much more. This is NOT something that can be prevented. It is also not something that is always controllable how you think it is.