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Anyone else refusing glucose tolerance test?
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Re: Anyone else refusing glucose tolerance test?
Meh, I'd like to see some stats on that before throwing it at someone under a "hazardous" symbol KWIM? I'm not a doctor or a midwife and therefore do not have enough background in the subject matter to be aware of exactly what "hazards" there are for the fetus of a healthy woman who is exercising following a decent diet while being followed with appropriate medical care.
Ahhh Henci Goer. She's wise. But on here she'd be an idiot. Its just how it rolls. YOU'RE RISKING YOUR BABY! BABY KILLER!
I consider a "hazard" anything that could cause problems with my child or myself. Diet and exercise are a good start to staying healthy, but it doesn't prevent all problems from coming up. And yes they can test urine samples in the future if the GTT isn't done, however it's not always acurate. Here's some of the complications.
https://www.mayoclinic.com/health/gestational-diabetes/DS00316/DSECTION=complications
Are you driving? Driving can cause problems! Are you eating tuna? Tuna can cause problems? Where are you on luncheon meat?
Fact is, we make choices and some of those impact our fetus. And the actual evidence suggests that oh say that it really isn't necessary for all women to be tested. There's just not enough evidence to suggest that is necessary. Don't take my word for it. There are a lot of studies out there about the test in question.
Take it. Don't. No big deal to me either way. I'm a fatty, so I need it.
IMO a Midwife didn't go to med school and didn't bust her or his butt off like an OB. I trust someone who requires a test then someone who tells me diffrerntly.
Wouldn't you rather be in the know? You're risking your health and your child's.
I have to do 2 GD tests because of my weight and my dad being type 2 diabetic.
I won't call any names. I don't think it's wise to listen to someone who doesn't require it.
I dont understand why you would not take something that was so easy, and harmless and can help prevent a health problem for you and your baby (and your vagina possibly pushing out an 11 pounder from gd). I had to take the test early a few days ago since I was being tested for pre-e and the possibility of receiving steroid shots if the results came back positive for pre-e (luckily all negative). They didnt make me fast at all,It was literally like 4 ounces of a flat orange soda tasting drink in ice that took 3 minutes to drink and then I could not eat/drink anything but water for the hour after I took the orange drink. It took 3 minutes of my time, and then an hour later a needle prick from the nurse. Thankfully I passed it fine I could see why those who have to fast and then drink the whole bottle for the 3 hour test could feel sick afterward. But seriously, who wants to risk the health of your baby over this simple test?
Are you also going to skip a group b strep swab of your rectum because you dont want to inconvenienced, and risk your newborn baby spending days in the NICU on antibiotics because you gave them an infection you didn't know you had?
We do make choices every day that may impact our babies, however I have yet to see anyone post, "Anyone else refusing to drive while pregnant?" It's not quite the same. I would understand not doing a risking test like an amnio if it wasn't considered necessary to your MW, but what is the downside to taking the GD test? Taking it could potentially reduce some serious risks....
Wow! I am having difficulty in believing the nasty tone this took so quickly. I live in the UK, and they do not test for GD at all unless you have certain markers as the OP suggested. I've spoken to two midwives, and several women who have recently had healthy babies. I'm still doing my research, but can't believe a health system that is actually quite good would put an entire population of babies at risk.
If I decide to do it, I'm probably going to have to beg for it. But I think coming down off the scaremongering we're spoon fed by the insurance companies in fear of litigation in America is in order here.
And before anyone jumps on this, I am decidedly NOT a liberal, but I do choose to have an open mind about things, do my research, talk to people, and only then make an informed decision.
I had none of this, and still failed my tests miserably! Stop being so selfish! This isn't about what YOU want anymore.
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Gavin: Born 4/8/11
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I'm not judging you personally since it's the healthcare there, but it's really scary that they do not do that testing, especially when it's so easy to do. Half of all diabetes cases occur in mothers with zero risk factors, and many women do not show symptoms. It happens frequently enough (up to 10% of pregnancies depending on the study) that it's not such a rare complication. I'd suggest reading up a little on GD and the frequency that it occurs. FWIW, I am extremely liberal about all things pregnancy-I eat lunch meat, raw sushi, and drink wine. But I'd never skip the GD test, even before the experience with my first pregnancy.
I had zero markers for GD. I was not overweight before pregnancy. No history of diabetes in my family. I only gained 30lbs. I delievered a 10lb baby who had blood sugar issues. They didnt even know I was having a large baby, as I measured either on time or behind on fundal height, and 3rd trimester u/s predicted a 7lb baby at birth. Unfortuantely I must have had a late onset case as I passed the glucose test with flying colors.
I'm laughing right now. Yeah those ignorant midwives... with their squirrel hearts and their moon learnings.
Congrats for taking down the entire tone of this post! yeah my midwife certainly never busted her butt. She just sat around watching youtube birth videos and practicing her witchamacraft.
Hehehehehhe. Oh that's a hoot.
Yeah. There we go!
I'm sure that there are competent midwives out there, but all the ones that I've ever encountered during my pregnancies have been complete idiots and I have zero trust in them. My stories could take up an entire page.
I think you need to find an OB, (or at least a competent midwife), get your head out of the sand and stop being so irresponsible. Good luck with that. yikes.You do realize that taking an "art class now and then" or some "side study" is a little different from a course in midwifery. Right?? Well, maybe not. Though, if she's going to the same course HER midwife used it's probably a two-week course in some guys basement named Rufus.
Explains a lot though... really, it does.
this.
I also had my son in the UK and had to request the gestational diabetes test. Do you know what they said? That it was clear that I was an American since I was requesting the test. It just isn't done there, and I doubt it is because they are willing to put a whole country at risk. And guess what? No Group B Strep test there. At all. Even if you ask.
Amazingly women have healthy babies there every day. Shocking!
I won't even comment on the women who are bashing midwives, everyone has their own preference but to assume that midwives don't go through years of grueling studies is stupid.
I pretty much agree with everyone who has said that your midwife is SEVERELY mistaken in her advice. Just because you don't have any "markers" doesn't mean you won't have GD. You're putting your child's life at risk by not having a simple screening test done.
I'd hate to see what else you just "opt out" of in your child's life because you feel the need to rebel, or as you call it, "join the dark side."
I couldn't live with myself if I directly caused something bad to happen to my baby in my own body! Not when there are so many ways to prevent complications. What are you going to do when he's born insulin dependent, or - at the very worst - stillborn. Because you wanted to be a rebel...and join the "dark side."
Would you rather your baby have to be stuck over and over again during his first hours of life to check his blood sugars, or get one or two sticks in your arm while you're pregnant?
This is just irresponsible parenting from the get-go.
I think you're grasping and grasping hard. And it's sort of funny to watch. So please, carry on.
Again, the US is one of the few countries where the GD test is standard in every pregnancy. If you are exercising daily, following a diet that is reasonable and being followed by appropriate medical care (and yes, friends, that includes midwives) it is unlikely that you are putting your child in grave danger by not having the test.LOL!
By lilenatalem at 2012-01-28
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They did this to my daughter anyways. I didn't have GD, but have a family history on both sides of diabetes, and the first time they test her, her levels were high, so they kept pricking her little foot over and over.
There must be a pig flying outside my window, because I agree with lanie.
My MW does not require it and I am not having the test done either. I'm also on a very strict diet that is monitored closely.
To each their own.
What is this supposed to mean? There are many women in many cultures that breastfeed their babies while pregnant. It's completely safe and very healthy for mom and baby. In fact, it's a wonderful way for her to curb major weight gain that would be a contributing factor to GD.
You do realize that the WHO recommends BFing your child until at least the age of 2. For someone who is all about following standard healthcare practices, you seem not to know very much about what healthcare professionals recommend about BFing.
I think you have issues.
First, I'm no so sure you didn't arrange this post anyway. It's just on your level.
Second, The OP is an idiot and SURPRISE... so is her midwife. Still looking for a midwife to prove me wrong about them. But this just proved EVERYTHING I have been saying right.
Third, The World Health Organization is the same batch of asshats that think mammograms shouldn't start till 50. That is dangerous and irresponsible thinking. Considering I was diagnosed with breast cancer at 32, I am a FIRM BELIEVER that early detection really DOES make all the difference. Thousands and thousands of women find malignant tumors thanks to early mammograms.
Quoting them gives NO credibility.
March on soul sister..you and I will never agree. I wonder... did you also refuse glucose testing adamswife?
Um...what's the problem with nursing while pregnant or nursing a toddler - 'cause I'm doing both and quite happy about it. To think that either is weird is just ignorant.
While I probably will take the test since I don't see it as at all invasive or annoying, I don't see why someone who is opting out but is following healthy guidelines for eating and exercise is doing a horrid thing. I'd argue that people who eat like crap (and no, I don't claim to have a stellar diet always) and never even so much as go for a walk (barring restrictions of course) are doing more harm. But no one busts out the "baby-killer-esque" or "you are an idiot" comments for those things. This is really an over-reaction.
And as for the midwife bashing - really?? Midwives are medical professionals specializing in women's health and birth - professionals with plenty of training and education. Sure there are bad midwives, but there are sh!t ton of crappy OBs out there too.
FWIW, my midwives actually encourage the test.
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I refuse to believe that you are a practicing nurse that is seriously trying to argue that there are not health benefits to extended breast feeding to both mother and baby. It just makes no sense.
I am now more confident than ever about having my baby at home with properly educated healthcare professionals if for no other reason than to avoid nurses like you.
If any doctor said that this test wasn't necessary, I would call him incompetent also, and then find another doc. He could have graduated from the best school on earth and it wouldn't matter. My OB actually said I didn't have to do the one at 28 because I was already diagnosed with GD and on insulin so the test was not needed, since we already know I have it. If she had said you don't need it because you have no markers, I'd have thought she got her degree from a Cracker Jack box. I had no breast cancer markers either, but I sure as heck had that also. "Markers" mean nothing. It's just a possible indicator.
Unfortunately, on this site, I have seen NOT ONE single story of a midwife being sensible. I am still waiting. All I hear is that some midwife told them to do something completely off the beaten path, and against proven sciences.
If midwives are being given a bad rap, then these people need to stop posting stupid crap and crediting the source as their midwife. Maybe then a lot of people wouldn't see them the way they do.
And yes, I have run into my fair share of idiot docs also. And I let them know about it and never went back to them.
Emjay, yes she is refusing the glucose test, too. And I agree with you 100% that early detection makes all the difference!
I just find it ironic that I see posts on here every other minute from half of the posters in this thread talking about what they had for lunch or as a snack each day. Most of these people post fast food items, dairy queen blizzards, Starbucks drinks, etc. as frequent parts of their diet.
Yet these same people that are eating diets that contribute to things like GD are telling the mothers that restrict what they eat and NEVER touch foods like that they THEY are the ones that are irresponsible and putting their child at risk.
Go on and eat whatever you want to and then react to the problem when it happens. There are some of us that don't have to worry about it because we watch what we eat, exercise every day, and monitor our glucose levels in other ways.
Your diets are doing far more harm to your baby IMO.
Good. Glad I could help. Should I send flowers?
You don't see me posting that stuff. I don't even read those threads. I have GD even though I had no markers or whatever. I get a craving for something and I ignore it... for my child. So don't lump me in that category.
And for the record, I don't eat fast food. I don't drink coffee. I have never, in 36 years, tasted coffee and have no desire to. The smell revolts me. I have also never had a hamburger from McDonalds, or a Big mac, or a whopper or anything else that could be considered fast food... EVER. Not even as a kid. I have had a few orders of fries in my life... maybe 1 or 2 a year, but I don't eat that junk. Does that mean I wouldn't like to dive in a vat of egg nog right about now? Oh yes I would.... but I won't. I sacrifice all the time for my child. And still got GD. Ain't life a biitch?
My aunt watched what she ate, was on a strict diet, and guess what she still had GD, what sucks even more, it was one of those cases where she had my cousin and it didn't go away! So guess what you still need to worry about it! Just because you eat like you're supposed to, exercise daily, and monitor it in other ways does not mean that you're not at risk! The test is not going to do anything to hurt you or your baby, it is something to protect you and your baby. I just don't understand this thought of well I do this and this right so I'm not at risk. You're pregnant, you're at risk!