3rd Trimester

Blown away- 1st tri discussion

I'm not trying to start anything, i'm just sooo baffled that someone on 1st tri is smoking a 1/2 pack a day and is 6+weeks prego! She admits that she shouldn't be doing it and she doesn't condone it, but she should have stopped the habit prior to becoming pregnant! Indifferent 
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  • I agree...  not trying to be judgemental, but that just disgusts me. 

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  • ..She needs to stop thats for sure! I havent seen this thread but I'll take a peek.. My step sister had a baby back in feb and a few days after she was born she was taken to the hospital for nicotine withdrawal! baby wouldnt stop screaming and crying.. I dont know how much she was smoking but it had to have been a LOT..She lives states away..
  • I really don't know how people can do that to their baby. I know someone who smoked their whole pregnancy though. I guess some people just don't feel guilty about it. I won't even sit around smoking. 

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    I really don't know how people can do that to their baby. I know someone who smoked their whole pregnancy though. I guess some people just don't feel guilty about it. I won't even sit around smoking

    I hold my breath if walking by someone that's smoking! I just can't imagine being that selfish to hurt your unborn child.

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  • Smoking is a horrible horrible addiction.  I know, I was a smoker.  I smoked for 10 years...about a pack a day.  I tried quitting so many times...patch, hypnosis, cold turkey, you name it....nothing worked.  Just after our wedding, when we knew we would plan to start right away trying to have a baby, I managed to cut it down to 3 cigarettes a day.....but I couldn't stop.  I wanted to REALLY, I just couldn't.

    When I found out I was pregnant at 4 weeks I smoked one inch of one cigarette 2 days in a row.  I called myself every name in the book as I did it. I thought "WHAT KIND OF MOTHER ARE YOU????"  Eventually by that second day, the agony of guilt was worse than the agony of the addiction and I never picked up another.  It has now been 33 weeks since my last cigarette.  I know if I ever pick up another one I may fail again.

    I know how you feel when you are disgusted by women who smoke when they are pregnant. I feel that way too even with the knowledge of how hard to control it is.  it is not simply a choice to stop. It is an addiction people have compared with heroin.

    My cousin smoked all through her pregnancy...argued that her mom did it and was fine. I was disgusted. I told her that her mother DIDNT KNOW what we know.  This same cousin's baby was born addicted to methidone.  What can you say? Breaks my heart....I want to take away her right to have that baby....as she smokes outside her NA meetings with other recent mothers....all of them with their baby carriers on the ground next to them....but what can you do?

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  • I'm really hoping that she just found out that she is pregnant .. .and plans on quitting ASAP ... (maybe this was an unplanned pregnancy, and she didn't know beforehand that she should quit)
  • Wow. While I've heard it can be hard to quit (I've never been a smoker), one would THINK a baby is enough reason. I don't understand the selfishness of some people, her bf included. Does he think he should smoke around the baby once it's born? Some people need a reality check and realize that once they're pregnant, it is not about them anymore, it's about the child growing inside of you. The whole post disgusts me Ick!
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  • The girlfriend of my husband's coworker still hasn't quit because "the stress of trying to quit will harm the baby more than actually smoking." She's due in September and she's known she's pregnant for more than 10 weeks.

  • Craving or not, why would she want to continue to hurt her baby? I don't get it...
  • imageemilysmommy2010:
    I really don't know how people can do that to their baby. I know someone who smoked their whole pregnancy though. I guess some people just don't feel guilty about it. I won't even sit around smoking. 

    Yeah my mom likes to tell us she "cut back" when she was pg only smoking X amount a day and my brother and I turned out just fine both being born healthy and happy at 8lbs and 9lbs+

    Not all are that lucky..Confused

  • Ugh I just don't understand how a person can do that to a helpless, innocent child who doesn't even have the choice! I would think concern for your child would come before any addiction or anything...so sad!
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  • Most addictions completely baffle me. I just don't get it. I just don't understand how something as simple as a cigarette can be more priority than the health of yourself or your baby. If I sip my husbands Mountain Dew I get like guilt fever for hours. My cousin smoked through all of her pregnancies and let me tell you her kids don't look good.
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  • The best part is that there are other posters trying to rationalize it. The excuses of "the baby won't be affected until 14 weeks" and "my doctor said it's ok when I'm really stressed" are mind-boggling. Yeah it's hard to quit. So what? 
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  • Yeah it's just trashy & selfish.  I don't care how addicted you are, you can still stop.  Period.

    And for the record, stopping BCP for 8 mo & "seeing what happens" is ttc whether she wants to admit it or not. 

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    The best part is that there are other posters trying to rationalize it. The excuses of "the baby won't be affected until 14 weeks" and "my doctor said it's ok when I'm really stressed" are mind-boggling. Yeah it's hard to quit. So what? 

    That made my blood boil! Angry

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  • clearly most of you people are non smokers, with the exception of the one previous poster.  You do not understand addiction.  It's like telling an anorexic to just eat a sandwich, it's just not that easy.  

    She's quitting, that's what's important.  

     

  • OMG! She needs to try to get a patch or something there are so many tips online and her OB can help her with that. That is a sorry shame.
  • imagecutie420311:

    clearly most of you people are non smokers, with the exception of the one previous poster.  You do not understand addiction.  It's like telling an anorexic to just eat a sandwich, it's just not that easy.  

    She's quitting, that's what's important.  

     

    Just because we are non-smokers doesn't mean we don't know what can happen.  We have chosen to not do that to our unborn children.

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  • imagecutie420311:

    clearly most of you people are non smokers, with the exception of the one previous poster.  You do not understand addiction.  It's like telling an anorexic to just eat a sandwich, it's just not that easy.  

    She's quitting, that's what's important.  

     

    Actually I was a smoker years ago.  But after 6 years of smoking, I decided I thought it was gross & I didn't want to do it anymore.  So I didn't.  And I wasn't anywhere close to being pregnant.  The mind is stronger than you think, if you want it to be. 

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  • It definitely can be done.  I was a smoker before quitting cold turkey the day I got my BFP...I never smoked as much as that person does, but it's really not that hard to quit.  A big part of the addiction is not to nicotine, it's the psychological triggers.  It's easy to just pick up a cigarette if you're used to smoking when getting into your car, or when you're hanging out with friends who smoke, or when you're stressed.  But it's not about her anymore.  It's all about the baby.  It's very difficult to quit, but for me, it was easy when picturing a baby suffocating inside you (which is what I did to help me never pick up a cigarette again).

    That said, I give her a lot of credit for posting that on a public message board.  It takes guts.  She knows what she's doing is wrong and that she would get sh!t for posting what she did.  Maybe in some way, hopefully, posting that and hearing the responses will help to shame her into giving it up. 

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  • I just don't know how people live with themselves!  I was a smoker until I thought I might be pregnant.  I took a pregnancy test and it was positive and that was it, never smoked another cigarette after that.  I never would have been able to live with myself if I knew I was pregnant, continued to smoke and possibly harmed my unborn child, how do people just disregard the fact that they have another life inside of them.  This is not, oh, I know I'm not supposed to have cold cuts, this is much more serious and I can't believe she or anyone would else would even think about smoking while pregnant.  My sisters friend had a baby about 3 or 4 months ago and she smoked throughout the whole pregnancy and now smokes in her house with the baby!  It's so sad to hold a baby that reeks of cigarette smoke, poor thing!!!
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    imagecutie420311:

    clearly most of you people are non smokers, with the exception of the one previous poster.  You do not understand addiction.  It's like telling an anorexic to just eat a sandwich, it's just not that easy.  

    She's quitting, that's what's important.  

     

    Actually I was a smoker years ago.  But after 6 years of smoking, I decided I thought it was gross & I didn't want to do it anymore.  So I didn't.  And I wasn't anywhere close to being pregnant.  The mind is stronger than you think, if you want it to be. 

    This.. I've been told multiple times that my grandfather was a HUGE chain smoker would light one after the other and go through multiple packs a day..then cigs went up to a DOLLAR a pack and he decided that was too much then just stopped..never touched one again..

     

  • Seriously? I don't smoke and I don't think it's a good idea, but I've seen much worse than that. When there are women out there who are drinking, taking drugs, and God knows what else while pregnant...smoking is the least of my worries. Should they do it? No. Are they going to? Yes. That's just the way it is. No use getting worked up over it.
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    imagecutie420311:

    clearly most of you people are non smokers, with the exception of the one previous poster.  You do not understand addiction.  It's like telling an anorexic to just eat a sandwich, it's just not that easy.  

    She's quitting, that's what's important.  

     

    Just because we are non-smokers doesn't mean we don't know what can happen.  We have chosen to not do that to our unborn children.

    We all know what to consequences are.  Its not rocket science,  the poor girl was looking for suggestions, if you've never smoked and quit, then you don't have anything to add.  

     Add good for you for quitting Woodside,  I smoked for 15 years, I quit when I got the BFP,  it wasn't easy, but I did, and she's doing her best to quit as well.  There is noting wrong with asking for help or suggestions. 
     

  • So sad...I hope she gets help.  Smoking is a disgusting habit! 
  • imageLovePink2850:
    Craving or not, why would she want to continue to hurt her baby? I don't get it...

    Because nicotine is a drug. She's addicted. The need for the drug outweighs the need to take care of her baby.

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    imagecutie420311:

    clearly most of you people are non smokers, with the exception of the one previous poster.  You do not understand addiction.  It's like telling an anorexic to just eat a sandwich, it's just not that easy.  

    She's quitting, that's what's important.  

     

    Actually I was a smoker years ago.  But after 6 years of smoking, I decided I thought it was gross & I didn't want to do it anymore.  So I didn't.  And I wasn't anywhere close to being pregnant.  The mind is stronger than you think, if you want it to be. 

    I used to smoke too, and I quit the moment I got my first BFP. I lost that pregnancy, and I wouldn't doubt if my smoking had something to do with it. The mind IS stronger than you think. It was literally like I just had a switch flip in my head that was like NO MORE. I have such mixed feelings on this post because I know that it is a physical addiction that is SO hard to break. I had a friend who kicked heroin tell me that he's glad he never smoked because he thinks it would be even harder to quit because as he said "When was the last time you walked into a gas station and faced a wall of heroin?" But half a pack a day? Not that there's any "safe" amount to smoke... but half a pack a day is beyond taking the edge off. I guess I feel some empathy for her, but... she's not being honest with herself.
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  • imageames17:
    The best part is that there are other posters trying to rationalize it. The excuses of "the baby won't be affected until 14 weeks" and "my doctor said it's ok when I'm really stressed" are mind-boggling. Yeah it's hard to quit. So what? 

    This is what blew me away the most! I thought for sure that when i opened up the post that most answers were going to be flaming her, but i was wrong! This is a post that should get negative responses and strangely enough, it had the opposite effect. I don't understand.....

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  • imagecutie420311:

    clearly most of you people are non smokers, with the exception of the one previous poster.  You do not understand addiction.  It's like telling an anorexic to just eat a sandwich, it's just not that easy.  

    She's quitting, that's what's important.  

     

    Clearly you're wrong. I smoked a pack and a half a day for 11 years. I understand addiction. I quit when I had no one else but myself to be responsible for. To continue to smoke when doing so puts the life of someone who can not help themselves in jeopardy is nothing but pure selfishness. 

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  • I used to feel the way a lot of you guys do. But, after learning that my mom had a hard time quitting when she got pregnant with my little brother, and hearing about the guilt she still has, I now understand how terrible of an addiction it can be. It doesn't make someone a bad person. You certainly shouldn't make that judgment. I know what kind of person/mother my mom is, so I'm not going to make the assumption that this other person is a disgusting excuse for a human being.
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    imageRitaT22:
    imagecutie420311:

    clearly most of you people are non smokers, with the exception of the one previous poster.  You do not understand addiction.  It's like telling an anorexic to just eat a sandwich, it's just not that easy.  

    She's quitting, that's what's important.  

     

    Just because we are non-smokers doesn't mean we don't know what can happen.  We have chosen to not do that to our unborn children.

    We all know what to consequences are.  Its not rocket science,  the poor girl was looking for suggestions, if you've never smoked and quit, then you don't have anything to add.  

     Add good for you for quitting Woodside,  I smoked for 15 years, I quit when I got the BFP,  it wasn't easy, but I did, and she's doing her best to quit as well.  There is noting wrong with asking for help or suggestions
     

    To the pp, it's a little late to be asking for suggestions as she's 6+wks pregnant! She should have thought of this prior to becoming pregnant! She should be asking for suggestions on how to help the withdrawal symptoms from not smoking, not suggestions on how to quit! She's smoking a 1/2 pack a day! Hurt yourself but not your innocent unborn child!

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    imageLovePink2850:
    Craving or not, why would she want to continue to hurt her baby? I don't get it...

    Because nicotine is a drug. She's addicted. The need for the drug outweighs the need to take care of her baby.

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    imageLovePink2850:
    Craving or not, why would she want to continue to hurt her baby? I don't get it...

    Because nicotine is a drug. She's addicted. The need for the drug outweighs the need to take care of her baby.

     

    I smoked for 13 years, I get it, yes its hard to quit but when you are pregnant the guilt should be enough for her to stop, at least until after she has the baby.  I don't care how much you smoke or how long you have smoked for its ridiculous that she knows she's pregnant and is so selfish to harm her child...

  • imageMama2beNY:
    imageCalypso312:

    imageLovePink2850:
    Craving or not, why would she want to continue to hurt her baby? I don't get it...

    Because nicotine is a drug. She's addicted. The need for the drug outweighs the need to take care of her baby.

     

    I smoked for 13 years, I get it, yes its hard to quit but when you are pregnant the guilt should be enough for her to stop, at least until after she has the baby.  I don't care how much you smoke or how long you have smoked for its ridiculous that she knows she's pregnant and is so selfish to harm her child...

    It may be ridiculous, but she's going to do it. No amount of flames from two message boards is going to change her mind.

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  • I am a former pack a day smoker, although I did quit a few years ago, so it wasn't b/c I was pregnant. I give women that quit b/c they're pregnant a lot of credit...it's really hard, and no one knows how hard it is unless you've been addicted yourself, especially if you're doing it for some reason other than truly wanting to quit. 

    One of my good friends smoked throughout her pregnancy, and while I didn't approve, she was looking at an unexpected pregnancy and being a single mom - she had a lot of stress and found it impossible to completely quit, although she did cut back. I'm not saying it's okay, but it's REALLY easy for non-smokers to be judgmental and flippant about it, without knowing how hard it is to quit. I think it's more important to be supportive of someone trying to quit and cutting back than to be judgmental of her smoking in the first place.

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  • I didn't read the post but I think if she is trying to quit then atleast she is making the effort.

    My cousin and his GF had a baby last May and she smoked and drank hard liquor the whole time she was preg and she didn't think twice about it.

    Now the baby is small (she is almost a year and weighs a little over 12 lbs) and has delayed reactions to things (Like if you blow in her face she doesn't blink or flinch right away it's very delayed) and my cousin and his GF thinks it normal even though the doctors are telling them they want to do tests. 

    I think deep down she knows it might be because her habits while she was PG but doesn't want to face the facts.

  • I have a former co-worker who was TTC but was such a hardcore smoker that when she did become KU, her doctor said it was better for her to still have 1 or 2 cigarettes a day then to put herself and her baby through the stress of trying to quit. 

    Same deal goes with my FIL - he smokes ALOT (outside the house, thankfully) but it's honestly better for him to smoke since the stress of quitting would cause more harm than good.

    I tried smoking when I was in my teens, but never was addicted or did it regularly. DH is struggling to quit right now because of LO. I give him so much credit because I can see how hard it is for him to cut down slowly and not reach for the cigarette when he's stressed.

    Atleast that poster KNOWS that she needs to quit - and perhaps her 1/2 pack a day is less than what she previously smoked...
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    imageMama2beNY:
    imageCalypso312:

    imageLovePink2850:
    Craving or not, why would she want to continue to hurt her baby? I don't get it...

    Because nicotine is a drug. She's addicted. The need for the drug outweighs the need to take care of her baby.

     

    I smoked for 13 years, I get it, yes its hard to quit but when you are pregnant the guilt should be enough for her to stop, at least until after she has the baby.  I don't care how much you smoke or how long you have smoked for its ridiculous that she knows she's pregnant and is so selfish to harm her child...

    It may be ridiculous, but she's going to do it. No amount of flames from two message boards is going to change her mind.

     

    Getting flamed on a message board is the least of her problems!

  • imagecutie420311:
    imageRitaT22:
    imagecutie420311:

    clearly most of you people are non smokers, with the exception of the one previous poster.  You do not understand addiction.  It's like telling an anorexic to just eat a sandwich, it's just not that easy.  

    She's quitting, that's what's important.  

     

    Just because we are non-smokers doesn't mean we don't know what can happen.  We have chosen to not do that to our unborn children.

    We all know what to consequences are.  Its not rocket science,  the poor girl was looking for suggestions, if you've never smoked and quit, then you don't have anything to add. 
     

    And this is why I had nothing to add to her OP. However, she is acting irresponsibly and needs to take better care of herself, for the sake of her baby that is inhaling that smoke right along with her.

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  • I agree it's awful but, I have to play devil's advocate.  There are worse things she could be doing.  Drinking, drugs, drinking tons of caffeine.  Smoking is awful while pregnant but, women used to do it all the time before they knew it was bad and it is probably the least harmful of the really bad things to do while KU.  At least it doesn't cause severe deformaties or brain damage.       
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