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2nd Trimester
Furious.........
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Re: Furious.........
Having a baby is not easy. Neither is making the choice to not have one. While I wouldn't advertise it at work I still say good for her for choosing to not have a child she can't look after. And anyone who says to "just give up the baby" really hasn't thought that threw before typing. Really.
perfectly stated...
and to ChristieCrofford...you need to take your holier than thou attitude about how we do not respect the sanctity of life somewhere else. Screw you...
This will be the last time I respond to your stupidity but I had to clear up a few things.........
Had you actually read my OP you would have realized that I am furious over insurance companies funding abortions!!!!! Hmmm, Maybe your so furious cause you've been there??? Thats the only reason someone would spin this topic into what you have! And YES, I did write this on a PUBLIC message board... Did I give her name, email or anything alluding to who she is?!??!?!? These boards are to vent and thats what Im doing. if you dont like it then block me!!!!! And have a great night:)
Dear OP,
I find your original thought of being furious with insurance companies for paying for abortions utterly dumb. How dare you project your feeling and beliefs on everyone else. Having an abortion would be a difficult decision (for most of the ladies) and screw you for thinking the insurance company shouldn't cover it because YOU think the shouldn't. Insurance companies cover all sorts of dumb things people do. How about the car accident because you were texting while driving. I'll bet you would be on here having a fit if the insurance company told you that this was your mistake so you should pay for your broken leg yourself.
Maybe you shouldn't be in the gene pool.
Get off your high horse. Stop juding for something that is none of your business. You don't know all of the details of this girl's marriage or her abilities to take care of a child.
You are crazy. No, really.
Not all insurance companies fund abortions. I personally have no issue with it. I think that it would be a relief to have it covered if I were in a desperate place or if I needed to save my child a life of pain. Take your head out of your as$ and realize that women don't make this decision lightly.
I hope that your friend finds out that you are a psycho who spreads her personal life around a public message board and dumps you.
If your problem is with insurance companies, then why does it seem you are on an abortion witch hunt? Some insurance companies even cover some cost of elective surgery such as breast augmentation. Considering they are, for now, a private business they can do as they please. If you have a problem take it up with your Congressman, not your co-workers.
As I stated before, I used to be pro-choice. I'm not judging anybody. But did I respect the sanctity of life when I was pro-choice? Nope. When you are pro-choice, you are behind a woman to a.)keep her baby or b.)abort the baby, for whatever reason that may be. That means that you are even condoning abortion when the woman just wants an easy way out of the responsibility of having and taking care of a baby. I'm not saying that it is easy for the mother to have an abortion - I know plenty of people who have and who still grieve to this day, including a now-mother-of-five. I'm saying that there are other alternatives to ending the life of the baby like it wasn't a life at all.
I just don't understand how people think it's so virtuous to be pro-choice, like you are doing your part in society to help keep the unwanted-baby population down. It's such a distorted way of thinking and it's not anybody's fault for thinking that way - I was taught at a very young age, through media, through government, and school that abortions were just a part of life and that we are fully capable of making decisions like that.
But, I understand that this is an ongoing debate and I am pretty much a minority anymore with the younger generation when it comes to this topic...so to each his own.
You most certainly are judging by preaching your beliefs (just re-read what you just wrote). I can only assume you must have recently found Jesus. So, yes, to each his own...
Actually, IVF costs many thousands of dollars more. So your rates would go WAY higher if they decided to cover IF treatments vs. abortions. Don't try to pretend this is an isurance vent.
And I'm happily 7 months pregnant and I hope a friend would still come to me if they felt an abortion was the best decision for their family. But, I don't judge...
You don't even know me and the whole point of this WAS an insurance vent!!!!! Think what you will, I could give a s--t!!!
It's a medical procedure that's (HELLO!) LEGAL in this country. Why wouldn't they cover it?
You may be pro-life yourself, but legally we are a pro-choice country. Just because you don't like the choices the law gives people doesn't mean they don't have them.
You do realize how crazy this sounds, right? I'd file sentiments like that under "things NOT to admit to in public" if I were you.
LMAO. We may not know you, but we do know your deductive reasoning and math skills are lacking...if this is purely an insurance vent, an abortion is a lot cheaper than prenatal care and birth...a few hundred vs. thousands of dollars. So in the case of your premiums, maybe you should be thrilled that she had an abortion rather than a costly pregnancy and birth.
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KA, I pph you.
And she is absolutely right - if this really was an insurance vent, you'd know how relatively inexpensive an abortion is compared to a pregnancy, birth, and subsequent medical expenses for that child. It's not rocket science.
Abortion coverage is not the reason your insurance rates are so high.
You do realize your question about insurance companies was answered numerous times right?
Many people could go back and say the same about IVF. Why should their insurance pay for people to have babies? Why can't it be paid for out of your own pocket if you want a child? Why should I have to pay for your baby?
Frankly I like an insurance that pays for both choices.
And why can't she talk to you?
Just because your pregnant she can't talk to you about abortion? Very narrow-minded view. I knew pregancy brings hormones out but I didn't know it limits your compassion for others.
(And I like how the "they don't use BC at all!!!" comes out later on.)
kinda sad but this benefits the insurance company as it's 18-21 years of care they don't have to worry about providing.
also, i'd rather she get an AB than abuse the kid. there are so many kids in orphanages and homes and being mistreated. then they grow up to mistreat others when they don't get the love and attention they deserve.
its "I couldn't give a sh!t."
Maybe she was going to give a sh!t to her, you know, like a shower gift. jtl's reward for not knowing her.
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Who knows why she confided in you? Obviously she lacks discretion and the maturity to know what is appropriate talk with coworkers. That said, perhaps she said something to you because she doesn't have anyone else to confide in. Or perhaps she saw similarities between your life and hers and thought you might be sympathetic.
Regardless of her reasons, it's her choice. You don't know her reasons, you haven't walked a mile in her shoes. Your friends and their fertility problems have nothing to do with your coworker and her abortion. The fertile people of the world are not required to reproduce on behalf of the infertile. If you feel so strongly that your friends "deserve" a baby, then you get pregnant again and give them one.
I recall hearing during the health care reform debate that approximately 80% of private insurers cover elective abortion. A first trimester abortion is several hundred dollars. A single round of IVF is about $15,000. If it results in multiples or a complicated pregnancy or a premature birth, the costs can go into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Now, what makes more sense to you from a financial standpoint? Covering abortion or covering IVF?
Meredith, 6-1-06 and Alex, 11-5-09
Big thumbs up from me. I'm also from Ontario (near Guelph!) and I agree with you 100%. This is NOT our decision to make, and we should not be judging this woman. She didn't ask us for our opinions.
To the OP - I understand why you are really sensitive about this - but I guarantee you, this woman didn't get pregnant to spite you. And her getting pregnant does not impact YOUR ability to get pregnant in any way. As horrible & unfortunate as your own situation is, having trouble TTC does not mean that you get to judge every single person who does.
I'm really trying to work up to the fervor against the big bad insurance companies right now - especially in light of the fact that DH's vasectomy after child #2 amounted to $40 o.o.p for our copay - but I just can't. Maybe you could gently remind your CW that she could get her husband to pony up for that procedure instead of an abortion - would that make you feel better? Then it wouldn't involve a pregnancy that was so obviously a direct attack against your parental sensibilities.
Get.over.yourself. Perhaps your insurance will pay for an EAP which could provide some counseling focusing on healthy boundaries.
Actually, the correct terminology here would be "I couldn't give a s--t!". Because if you could give one, that means you do actually care a little. Just sayin'.
I think you need to chill out. Seriously, you know there are people on here who see things another way and all you can do is over-punctuate and say nasty things? Grow up.
I applaud a lot of the responses on this thread from people who are willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and gently suggest that you may be overreacting.
But, in all honesty, you sound like a big jerk. You appear to be a sanctimonious, arrogant, self-important woman and I really hope that IRL, you do not come across this way. But until then, maybe you need to practice a little grace and compassion for other people, especially those who don't subscribe to your particular ethical brand.
Yes. Thank you.