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2nd Trimester
Furious.........
So another girl at works turns up pregnant.....you would think at 25 y/o, one might know where babies come from? She is married but her and her husband are not financially/etc ready for all that comes along with being a parent. So she decides to have an abortion. She then informs me that the her insurance (Personal Choice) will cover the regular abortion but not the pill abortion?!?!? WTF is this......are you kidding me!!! Why the hell should ANY of this be covered??? I have several friends who have the same insurance and it will not cover the in-vitro etc that they need to become pregnant. This country is a joke that we allow abortions to become a form of birth control. I'm sure since the insurance companies are footing the bill this will really treat these irresponsible girls a lesson!
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Re: Furious.........
I'm all for pro choice what have you..but I dont get why insurance would cover abortion and not the help in getting pregnant..That doesnt really make sense to me..
ETA: Besides, let em have their abortions I read that multiple abortions makes it really difficult to keep a pregnancy later when they actually WANT the baby..they'll learn..
Wow, I'm surprised someone who is married and 25 would have an abortion. I'm 25 and married. I could NEVER imagine having an abortion, regardless.
Anyway, I'm not here to judge her decision, but I am shocked that the health insurance covered it. I know some health insurance won't even cover birth control. In this context it appears to be an "elective" procedure and I would then assume most insurances wouldn't cover it. I could see it being covered for some medically necessary situation.
Even more shocking, why would she announce her pregnancy at all (let alone at work) and then decide to have an abortion? Clearly, it's beyond my comprehension.
That is not something I would announce to my work place...
i with you. but as for insurance its all about the money if you think about it. with babies they cost insurance alot of money (will all the labs, u/s and just general dr bills) so why would they cover the in vitro to help someone get pregnant. but abortion gets rid of the baby and viola one less baby they have to pay for the medical bills. it makes me mad but what can you do
How sad.
The rejection of children in this society (USA) is absolutely astounding and disgusting!
Okay well that makes sense now actually..
And as PP said..she should NOT announce it..She might be trying to get attention? Unless you're like a close friend..I have a coworker thats a friend and she said if she ever accidently got pregnant it would be aborted.. She said it doesnt cost THAT much.. "less than having the baby" as she put it..
This exactly! Saves them money in the end!
That is sad to hear.
As for the insurance companies...everyone's right. It's about money. I'll never understand their practices.
This exactly. An abortion is significantly less expensive than IVF.
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1. Very sad.
2. Why the hell would she tell her co workers she is pregnant and having an abortion?
We are in a small shop and are all pretty close. Someone mentioned the attention bit and I hate to say it but i think that has alot to do with it. I am actually surprised that it took her this long to become pregnant. She has a bit of a history or doing everything i do shorty there after. When I first told my boss I was pregnant he said, I wonder how long it will take for "her" to become pregnant. The whole thing really upsets me because I am the LAST person you should be "confiding" in considering I am 5 months pregnant??!?! I am sooo over the moon about my pregnancy and have to deal with these idiots crying and whining over there "accidents"! I have several friends who have been trying for years to get pregnant only to be disappointed month after month. A few have actually remortgaged their homes in order to do so:( These insurance companies need to re prioritize what is and is not covered.
Thanks for letting me vent ladies!!!!!
everyone needs a good vent now and again. and i agree why would she complain to a woman who is HAPPY to be 5months pregnant about her insurance abortion problems. some people
After 3 years TTC....... *fuming*
There are some insurance companies and workplaces that help with conception aids but not many.
I would gladly adopt a baby that was unwanted and plan on it...
just sad
Exactly what I was thinking!
I can't believe that at 25 and married she would have an abortion. I mean i'm not judging but geez. Second, the way insurance companies works blows my freakin mind!!! It's ridiculous that some insurance companies won't help with IVF but will pay for a woman to have an abortion that is not medically necessary...ridiculous in my opinion.
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I understand your anger, and she should DEFINITELY not be venting you, a pregnant woman, but I think you are letting your personal feelings get in the way. Unfortunately, in Canada, almost all of our provinces cover abortion in all cases. While I believe abortion should be an option in some cases, it really bothers me that there are no questions asked and they are available very easily and provincially funded. I definitely think they need to be evaluated on a case by case basis. Its so sad that some people think of abortion as birth control, but its hard to judge someone for their reasons, without living their life.
I think its horrible that your co-worker is broadcasting it to your office, she sounds very immature, if not insensitive. I also think its horrible that insurance companies, as well as provincial health care in Canada will pay for abortions, but not fertility treatments. Its pretty backwards.
It is a matter of business and, on a larger scale, choice when it comes to women's health.
That being said, as someone who made that difficult choice 10 years ago, I'm surprised she would be so laissez faire as to mention all of this to you or anyone at work.
You're an idiot.
I'm not going to judge her choice, but why on Earth would she tell you?
And the reason for that the insurance will cover it is because the cost of a child is quite alot more, than well, not having a child. It's basically the same reason insurance companies will a vasectomy, and not a reverse vasectomy. (Well, obviously not the same thing, but the same idea)
It's sad, but true. And I honestly doubt she's thinking, or cares, about someone TTC.
Just saying.
I used to always think I was Pro Choice - I guess I am because I don't want that right taken away - but I could never do it and I get really upset when I hear of others doing.
It's just sad. I agree - it should NOT be a form of Birth Control, but there are situations where it makes sense.
Why are we assuming this woman is using abortion as birth contol?
Or is this a general statement on women who do actually do this?
That is horrible! I'm pro-choice, but an abortion should only be used as a last resort option (like if the mother has medical complications or something.) If you don't want to have a baby, don't have sex! Or use birth control! And if you DO use birth control, you have to go into it knowing there is a CHANCE you could get pregnant! Simply put, if you're not ready, best be safe and keep it in your f*****g pants.
This.
I feel the same. I am completely pro-choice, and will not judge.
Of course it's not a generalized statement... a woman at her age and married should have known to take the proper precautions to NOT get pregnant if she did not want to be. It just looks like she's using abortion as an easy ticket out...
agreed.
(Quoting my own post... haha)
I got pregnant unexpectedly. I am pro-choice. I never thought I'd ever have children. But things happen that are out of your control... I made a choice, and honestly I am thrilled to be starting a family. It's about ten years sooner than expected but that's ok! Everything happens for a reason! DH and I can't wait!
I'm not going to argue that this girl is completely insensitive to the situation of others as she brings it up to someone who is expecting. But I'm not seeing where she's taking the easy way out here.
hmmm....I think I wouldn't be able to help myself, but I'd be giving your co-worker the side eye. But, I'm not in her shoes and have no clue what she is really going through. I do know that surprises happen and it saddens me that it seems in this case the woman is taking the abortion route as a back up birth control plan. It just makes me sad, but I'm sad right now in general. I just watched the movie Precious, which made me sad.....
eta: I can't imagine it being an easy way out, though. I can't begin to fathom how hard of a choice that is to make.
Ditto. Just because she's having an abortion, doesn't mean its easy for her.
I'm all for pro-choice, but she's 25 and married! if she was 25, not married and in a sh!t relationship that was heading nowhere, then she could make that choice.. but when your married??? wtf??
This is the point I was making. In a stable situation, why go through with it?
(again I reiterate, maybe it's not her husbands baby... just a thought)
Wow
That's ridiculous. I understand it's better business wise for the insurance companies but seriously, that's f'd up. Also, to make her pregnancy/abortion public at work of all places? Double wow.
I'm so glad the NZ government covers IVF