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  • imagehaleyw458:
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    I just cant believe that people dont find it cruel to leave a large breed dog locked up in a house. They belong outside ecspecially a Lab they are so hyper they enjoy playing and running....

    Confused   Fictional dogs play 24 hours a day.  Real dogs sleep 12+ hours a day. 

    For real.  My lazy ass dogs sleep more like 18 hours a day.

    So what's the difference in your dog sleeping inside or out? It isn't getting attention during this time.

    Who says they aren't getting attention while they're asleep?  My doxie sleeps in my lap frequently, and my golden sleeps on my feet.

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  • imagehaleyw458:
    imageDevonStiles:
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    imagekm014a:
    I just cant believe that people dont find it cruel to leave a large breed dog locked up in a house. They belong outside ecspecially a Lab they are so hyper they enjoy playing and running....

    Confused   Fictional dogs play 24 hours a day.  Real dogs sleep 12+ hours a day. 

    For real.  My lazy ass dogs sleep more like 18 hours a day.

    So what's the difference in your dog sleeping inside or out? It isn't getting attention during this time.

    Safety.  Are you even understanding the words as they appear on the computer screen?

  • imagehaleyw458:
    imageDevonStiles:
    imagepixy_stix:

    imagekm014a:
    I just cant believe that people dont find it cruel to leave a large breed dog locked up in a house. They belong outside ecspecially a Lab they are so hyper they enjoy playing and running....

    Confused   Fictional dogs play 24 hours a day.  Real dogs sleep 12+ hours a day. 

    For real.  My lazy ass dogs sleep more like 18 hours a day.

    So what's the difference in your dog sleeping inside or out? It isn't getting attention during this time.

    Because the chances of someone stealing him from the backyard while she's asleep are much higher than the chances of someone breaking into my house to steal her.  Is that really escaping you?

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  • imagehaleyw458:
    imageDevonStiles:
    imagepixy_stix:

    imagekm014a:
    I just cant believe that people dont find it cruel to leave a large breed dog locked up in a house. They belong outside ecspecially a Lab they are so hyper they enjoy playing and running....

    Confused   Fictional dogs play 24 hours a day.  Real dogs sleep 12+ hours a day. 

    For real.  My lazy ass dogs sleep more like 18 hours a day.

    So what's the difference in your dog sleeping inside or out? It isn't getting attention during this time.

    Because the chances of someone stealing her from the backyard while she's asleep are much higher than the chances of someone breaking into my house to steal her.  Is that really escaping you?

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  • imageDevonStiles:
    imagehaleyw458:
    imageDevonStiles:
    imagepixy_stix:

    imagekm014a:
    I just cant believe that people dont find it cruel to leave a large breed dog locked up in a house. They belong outside ecspecially a Lab they are so hyper they enjoy playing and running....

    Confused   Fictional dogs play 24 hours a day.  Real dogs sleep 12+ hours a day. 

    For real.  My lazy ass dogs sleep more like 18 hours a day.

    So what's the difference in your dog sleeping inside or out? It isn't getting attention during this time.

    Who says they aren't getting attention while they're asleep?  My doxie sleeps in my lap frequently, and my golden sleeps on my feet.

    Okay and how do you figure that they know they're getting this attention? They're asleep, they don't know what's going on during this time.

    This is obviously never going to end. You ladies see it your way, and we see it ours. Neither of our opinions are going to change.

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  • imagehaleyw458:
    imageDevonStiles:
    imagehaleyw458:
    imageDevonStiles:
    imagepixy_stix:

    imagekm014a:
    I just cant believe that people dont find it cruel to leave a large breed dog locked up in a house. They belong outside ecspecially a Lab they are so hyper they enjoy playing and running....

    Confused   Fictional dogs play 24 hours a day.  Real dogs sleep 12+ hours a day. 

    For real.  My lazy ass dogs sleep more like 18 hours a day.

    So what's the difference in your dog sleeping inside or out? It isn't getting attention during this time.

    Who says they aren't getting attention while they're asleep?  My doxie sleeps in my lap frequently, and my golden sleeps on my feet.

    Okay and how do you figure that they know they're getting this attention? They're asleep, they don't know what's going on during this time.

    This is obviously never going to end. You ladies see it your way, and we see it ours. Neither of our opinions are going to change.

    Really? If my dog is not conscious of his placement, then why if I move him, does he immediately go back to my lap?  He's happy there, genius.

     

    And are you not reading anything about the SAFETY of the dogs?  Outside, asleep they are sitting ducks.  There are bad people out there who do bad things to animals.  It happens everywhere, not just bad neighborhoods. 

  • imageStephiehun:
    imagehaleyw458:
    imageDevonStiles:
    imagepixy_stix:

    imagekm014a:
    I just cant believe that people dont find it cruel to leave a large breed dog locked up in a house. They belong outside ecspecially a Lab they are so hyper they enjoy playing and running....

    Confused   Fictional dogs play 24 hours a day.  Real dogs sleep 12+ hours a day. 

    For real.  My lazy ass dogs sleep more like 18 hours a day.

    So what's the difference in your dog sleeping inside or out? It isn't getting attention during this time.

    Because the chances of someone stealing her from the backyard while she's asleep are much higher than the chances of someone breaking into my house to steal her.  Is that really escaping you?

    Do you really live in a neigborhood with that high of a crime rate where you have to worry about someone stealing your dog? I can't say that I have ever heard of anybody stealing a dog around here.

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  • imagehaleyw458:
    imageStephiehun:
    imagehaleyw458:
    imageDevonStiles:
    imagepixy_stix:

    imagekm014a:
    I just cant believe that people dont find it cruel to leave a large breed dog locked up in a house. They belong outside ecspecially a Lab they are so hyper they enjoy playing and running....

    Confused   Fictional dogs play 24 hours a day.  Real dogs sleep 12+ hours a day. 

    For real.  My lazy ass dogs sleep more like 18 hours a day.

    So what's the difference in your dog sleeping inside or out? It isn't getting attention during this time.

    Because the chances of someone stealing her from the backyard while she's asleep are much higher than the chances of someone breaking into my house to steal her.  Is that really escaping you?

    Do you really live in a neigborhood with that high of a crime rate where you have to worry about someone stealing your dog? I can't say that I have ever heard of anybody stealing a dog around here.

    Um, what?  It JUST HAPPENED.  This morning.  To a regular.  From THIS BOARD.

  • imagekatelaff:
    imagehaleyw458:

    Do you really live in a neigborhood with that high of a crime rate where you have to worry about someone stealing your dog? I can't say that I have ever heard of anybody stealing a dog around here.

    Um, what?  It JUST HAPPENED.  This morning.  To a regular.  From THIS BOARD.

    Maybe she lives in a high crime rate area.  SHUT UP YOU DON'T KNOW HER!

  • imagekatelaff:
    imagehaleyw458:
    imageStephiehun:
    imagehaleyw458:
    imageDevonStiles:
    imagepixy_stix:

    imagekm014a:
    I just cant believe that people dont find it cruel to leave a large breed dog locked up in a house. They belong outside ecspecially a Lab they are so hyper they enjoy playing and running....

    Confused   Fictional dogs play 24 hours a day.  Real dogs sleep 12+ hours a day. 

    For real.  My lazy ass dogs sleep more like 18 hours a day.

    So what's the difference in your dog sleeping inside or out? It isn't getting attention during this time.

    Because the chances of someone stealing her from the backyard while she's asleep are much higher than the chances of someone breaking into my house to steal her.  Is that really escaping you?

    Do you really live in a neigborhood with that high of a crime rate where you have to worry about someone stealing your dog? I can't say that I have ever heard of anybody stealing a dog around here.

    Um, what?  It JUST HAPPENED.  This morning.  To a regular.  From THIS BOARD.

    You mean the one that was stolen by her stbx, while he was leaving? Whether the dog had been inside or not, he would have taken him. Not exactly a very good example.

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  • Way to go tax more of our public assistance programs, Ms Guna.

    Please.

  • imageTarponMonoxide:

    Way to go tax more of our public assistance programs, Ms Guna.

    Please.

    You must be PMSing because those sure aren't pregnancy hormones speaking... sorry you're having T-TTC and have to feel sorry for yourself so you're going to bash others.  I truly hope that magical moment happens for you, that your husband is the prince charming you think he is, and you never have any hardships in your life. 

  • imagehaleyw458:
    imagekatelaff:
    imagehaleyw458:

    Do you really live in a neigborhood with that high of a crime rate where you have to worry about someone stealing your dog? I can't say that I have ever heard of anybody stealing a dog around here.

    Um, what?  It JUST HAPPENED.  This morning.  To a regular.  From THIS BOARD.

    You mean the one that was stolen by her stbx, while he was leaving? Whether the dog had been inside or not, he would have taken him. Not exactly a very good example.

    I have an extremely hard time believing no matter how big of a douche her ex-husband is that even he would equate picking a lock/smashing a window/insert other way of physically damaging a residential property to unlocking or jumping over an outside gate leaving no damage behind of which to speak.

    No, I'd say being indoors adds an extra obstacle for any thief - relative or not. 

     

  • imagekatelaff:
    imagehaleyw458:
    imagekatelaff:
    imagehaleyw458:

    Do you really live in a neigborhood with that high of a crime rate where you have to worry about someone stealing your dog? I can't say that I have ever heard of anybody stealing a dog around here.

    Um, what?  It JUST HAPPENED.  This morning.  To a regular.  From THIS BOARD.

    You mean the one that was stolen by her stbx, while he was leaving? Whether the dog had been inside or not, he would have taken him. Not exactly a very good example.

    I have an extremely hard time believing no matter how big of a douche her ex-husband is that even he would equate picking a lock/smashing a window/insert other way of physically damaging a residential property to unlocking or jumping over an outside gate leaving no damage behind of which to speak.

    No, I'd say being indoors adds an extra obstacle for any thief - relative or not. 

     

    Um, maybe you should have read the original thread before adding your comments.  Her DB X was IN HER HOUSE visiting with DS during his visitation hours.  He got upset because he wanted to drink and she wouldn't allow it near her son and he left.  Therefore, there was no need for "picking a lock/smashing a window/insert other way of physically damaging a residential property to unlocking or jumping over an outside gate."  DB would have been able to take the dog either way. 

    I'm glad you learned reading comprehension when you were in school.  Had you closely examined the text, however, you would have been able to more adequately provide commentary to the completely pointless conversation.

    Was that too many big words for you?  I know I'm on the single parent board so I must have a low education level.     

  • imagekjh44:
    imagekatelaff:
    imagehaleyw458:
    imagekatelaff:
    imagehaleyw458:

    Do you really live in a neigborhood with that high of a crime rate where you have to worry about someone stealing your dog? I can't say that I have ever heard of anybody stealing a dog around here.

    Um, what?  It JUST HAPPENED.  This morning.  To a regular.  From THIS BOARD.

    You mean the one that was stolen by her stbx, while he was leaving? Whether the dog had been inside or not, he would have taken him. Not exactly a very good example.

    I have an extremely hard time believing no matter how big of a douche her ex-husband is that even he would equate picking a lock/smashing a window/insert other way of physically damaging a residential property to unlocking or jumping over an outside gate leaving no damage behind of which to speak.

    No, I'd say being indoors adds an extra obstacle for any thief - relative or not. 

     

    Um, maybe you should have read the original thread before adding your comments.  Her DB X was IN HER HOUSE visiting with DS during his visitation hours.  He got upset because he wanted to drink and she wouldn't allow it near her son and he left.  Therefore, there was no need for "picking a lock/smashing a window/insert other way of physically damaging a residential property to unlocking or jumping over an outside gate."  DB would have been able to take the dog either way. 

    I'm glad you learned reading comprehension when you were in school.  Had you closely examined the text, however, you would have been able to more adequately provide commentary to the completely pointless conversation.

    Was that too many big words for you?  I know I'm on the single parent board so I must have a low education level.     

    Nice kjh44! 

    Most regulars on this board are familiar enough with my situation to realize that my XH wouldn't think ANYTHING of picking a lock/smashing a window/etc.  Or perhaps I should PIP of the doors he bashed in?  When someone is abusing drugs they don't think much of a little thing like a locked door (which is why I originally got a restraining order-I had locked our bedroom door and he broke through it, separating the door jam and therefore getting to me).

     

     

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  • imagekjh44:
    imageTarponMonoxide:

    Way to go tax more of our public assistance programs, Ms Guna.

    Please.

    You must be PMSing because those sure aren't pregnancy hormones speaking... sorry you're having T-TTC and have to feel sorry for yourself so you're going to bash others.  I truly hope that magical moment happens for you, that your husband is the prince charming you think he is, and you never have any hardships in your life. 

    Who else is going to support a single 18 year old with barely a high school education and her child? It's either going to be her parents/family or the taxpayers.

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  • imagetalltalltrees:
    imagekjh44:
    imageTarponMonoxide:

    Way to go tax more of our public assistance programs, Ms Guna.

    Please.

    You must be PMSing because those sure aren't pregnancy hormones speaking... sorry you're having T-TTC and have to feel sorry for yourself so you're going to bash others.  I truly hope that magical moment happens for you, that your husband is the prince charming you think he is, and you never have any hardships in your life. 

    Who else is going to support a single 18 year old with barely a high school education and her child? It's either going to be her parents/family or the taxpayers.

    Are you saying that abortion is the way she should have went then? I have more respect for someone having a child out of wedlock and growing up to take care of said child, than the child suffering death because the parent made a mistake.  Many parents offer to help with a child when it is born and have no issues.  It isn't your place to judge the situation or persons involved.  I'm a republican and I'd rather see my money (which I'm going to shell out in taxes anyways) go to a mother who has goals and will raise her child the right way instead of going to a bunch of families that have more kids than they can afford on purpose so they can get more money out of our already struggling government.  Maybe those are the ones you should target when talking about giving tax money out - our 'welfare' systems are in place so that when things such as this happen to a person, they will be able to get back on their feet and be a productive part of society.  

    Hopefully you or your husband won't go through hardships in which you would ever need to be placed on a government program to help you survive, but with all of the layoffs and failing companies, I wouldn't count your chickens too soon.  It takes years to build yourself and grow in a good career and only a few seconds to tear all your work down.  Don't think for a second you're ever indispensable in your job.     

  • imagekjh44:

    Are you saying that abortion is the way she should have went then?

    Yes.

    imagekjh44:

    I have more respect for someone having a child out of wedlock and growing up to take care of said child, than the child suffering death because the parent made a mistake. 

    If not abortion, adoption.

    imagekjh44:

    Many parents offer to help with a child when it is born and have no issues. 

    Yes, like adoptive parents who desperately want a child and can provide a better life than an 18-year-old who barely graduates from high school.  Didn't last season of Teen Mom with Catelynn teach you anything?

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    I'm a republican and I'd rather see my money (which I'm going to shell out in taxes anyways) go to a mother who has goals and will raise her child the right way instead of going to a bunch of families that have more kids than they can afford on purpose so they can get more money out of our already struggling government.  Maybe those are the ones you should target when talking about giving tax money out - our 'welfare' systems are in place so that when things such as this happen to a person, they will be able to get back on their feet and be a productive part of society.  

    I don't see the difference between these two cases.  Who's to say this won't happen again?  Twenty-five percent of teen moms will have a second child within 24 months thereby becoming your second problem.  (Source: wikipedia.)  

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    It takes years to build yourself and grow in a good career and only a few seconds to tear all your work down.  Don't think for a second you're ever indispensable in your job.     

    And after an adult with an education and work experience loses their job, they put said education and work experience on a resume and get another job. 

    Teenagers don't have education or work experience.  They WILL rely on the government unless they're fortunate enough to have parents who contribute enormously financially.  So they're on welfare, they get pregnant again, they get more welfare and become the people you're rallying against so much.  Commence vicious cycle.  Who loses besides babies who could have homes with adoptive families instead of holier than thou teen mothers?  Taxpayers who use birth control properly while planning for and putting off having their children while they build their careers to pay said taxes.

  • Abortion = Murder

    Adoption is fine and a good choice for many young mothers.  There are many teen mothers who grow up to have very good jobs and although they needed help to get there, they have become outstanding citizens in our society and have raised well respected children. 

    I wouldn't really equate what we should do in our lives with anything on MTV.  Although Catelynn had a positive experience in adopting her daughter, there are a lot emotional side effects in going through with adoption.  It would be like watching Maury and saying that all people who have gone through a cheating spouse should take advice from that show on how to live their lives. 

    Once you get pregnant, you will understand what it is like to be a mother.  Motherhood comes immediately to you.  You can never remember life before having your LO.  Try to make a decision when you feel what it is like to have a child rely completely on you for life.  It is a damn near impossible decision to make - you could even see how hard of a time Catelynn had when experiencing the same thing.  It comes down to what is right for you, and if your family is willing to help then why would you give up the miracle that God gave you?   

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    Are you saying that abortion is the way she should have went then?

    I'm saying she should have used birth control in the first place. I really don't know if she should have gone with abortion or adoption. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that she WILL have to take money either from her family or from the government to support herself and her child.

    I have more respect for someone having a child out of wedlock and growing up to take care of said child, than the child suffering death because the parent made a mistake.  Many parents offer to help with a child when it is born and have no issues.  It isn't your place to judge the situation or persons involved.  I'm a republican and I'd rather see my money (which I'm going to shell out in taxes anyways) go to a mother who has goals and will raise her child the right way instead of going to a bunch of families that have more kids than they can afford on purpose so they can get more money out of our already struggling government.  Maybe those are the ones you should target when talking about giving tax money out - our 'welfare' systems are in place so that when things such as this happen to a person, they will be able to get back on their feet and be a productive part of society.  

    If you're 17 and having a kid, unless you're independently wealthy, you are definitely having a kid you can't afford.

    Unprotected sex doesn't "happen" - it's something you actively do. 


    Hopefully you or your husband won't go through hardships in which you would ever need to be placed on a government program to help you survive, but with all of the layoffs and failing companies, I wouldn't count your chickens too soon.  It takes years to build yourself and grow in a good career and only a few seconds to tear all your work down.  Don't think for a second you're ever indispensable in your job.     

    Actually I own my own business, so I'm probably not going to get laid off. But that's beside the point. I'm not against government assistance as a last resort. The point is that someone who's educated, has work experience, and ideally has a partner (or at least is getting child support) has a lot more options to go through before they're forced to go on government assistance. It's a 4th or 5th stop rather than the first or second for someone who's 17 and pregnant with no father in sight. 

     

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  • imagekjh44:

    Motherhood comes immediately to you. 

    Not for everyone, but thanks for the blanket statement.

  • imagekjh44:

    Abortion = Murder

    That is your opinion. 


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  • imagekjh44:
    Once you get pregnant, you will understand what it is like to be a mother.  Motherhood comes immediately to you.  You can never remember life before having your LO.  Try to make a decision when you feel what it is like to have a child rely completely on you for life.  It is a damn near impossible decision to make - you could even see how hard of a time Catelynn had when experiencing the same thing.  It comes down to what is right for you, and if your family is willing to help then why would you give up the miracle that God gave you?   

    You don't even have a child yet but you are lecturing people on what it's like to be a mother? 

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  • I'm not making any comments on raising a child.  But from the second you can see your child (ultrasound), feel your child move and know that your child needs you in order to survive - that makes you a mother.  Motherhood is a nurturing process and from the moment your child is conceived, you're nurturing that baby and keeping that baby safe so he can grow and survive. 

    Owning your own business is awesome.  I own my own business also, but I also doubt that your business is growing massively with the state of our economy.  Even in owning your own business, what if you don't produce enough revenue to pay your bills?  You'd be out of a job.  Nothing is set in stone in this economy.   

  • imagekjh44:

    I'm not making any comments on raising a child.  But from the second you can see your child (ultrasound), feel your child move and know that your child needs you in order to survive - that makes you a mother.  Motherhood is a nurturing process and from the moment your child is conceived, you're nurturing that baby and keeping that baby safe so he can grow and survive. 

    Owning your own business is awesome.  I own my own business also, but I also doubt that your business is growing massively with the state of our economy.  Even in owning your own business, what if you don't produce enough revenue to pay your bills?  You'd be out of a job.  Nothing is set in stone in this economy.   

    Not everybody feels that way about pregnancy and motherhood. 

    To your second point - that's just it - if my business doesn't do well, I have my H's income to rely on. If he were to be out of work, he could look for another job. If he can't find another job, I can look for a job. We both have educations and extensive work experience, so our likelihood of finding a decent job is much higher than someone with barely a high school education. If neither of us can find jobs, we can live on our savings for a while. And then finally, if no jobs come up in all that time and our savings are exhausted, then we'd have to borrow money, or get help from family or get help from the government. 

    But someone who's 17 and has no partner doesn't have any of those options. At best, she's going to be able to find a job that just barely covers the cost of living and cost of daycare and hopefully has awesome health insurance too. If she loses that job, she's out of luck. It's to family or the government, do not pass go.

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  • imagetalltalltrees:
    imagekjh44:

    I'm not making any comments on raising a child.  But from the second you can see your child (ultrasound), feel your child move and know that your child needs you in order to survive - that makes you a mother.  Motherhood is a nurturing process and from the moment your child is conceived, you're nurturing that baby and keeping that baby safe so he can grow and survive. 

    Owning your own business is awesome.  I own my own business also, but I also doubt that your business is growing massively with the state of our economy.  Even in owning your own business, what if you don't produce enough revenue to pay your bills?  You'd be out of a job.  Nothing is set in stone in this economy.   

    Not everybody feels that way about pregnancy and motherhood. 

    To your second point - that's just it - if my business doesn't do well, I have my H's income to rely on. If he were to be out of work, he could look for another job. If he can't find another job, I can look for a job. We both have educations and extensive work experience, so our likelihood of finding a decent job is much higher than someone with barely a high school education. If neither of us can find jobs, we can live on our savings for a while. And then finally, if no jobs come up in all that time and our savings are exhausted, then we'd have to borrow money, or get help from family or get help from the government. 

    But someone who's 17 and has no partner doesn't have any of those options. At best, she's going to be able to find a job that just barely covers the cost of living and cost of daycare and hopefully has awesome health insurance too. If she loses that job, she's out of luck. It's to family or the government, do not pass go.

    Excellent plan and it's great that you have a cushion in your savings.  What is your plan if DH decides to commit adultrey?  This is what happened to me-DH had just gotten a position as a manager-the job of his dreams and then lost it.  He was depressed and it was difficult for him to find a replacement job and so he went and made himself feel better by seeking comfort with other women. 

    My point is-you come off as extremely SMUG as in, you have life all figured out and these things will never happen to you.  You've got a plan in case any little roadblock is thrown your way.  I was like this as well, had life planned out in a nutshell-married at 23, then we would have children in four years, we had bought a home, had excellent jobs, nice cars, white picket fence-you name it.  But I unfortunately found out that we can't plan everything in life and you can't always forsee what is coming your way.  I looked down my nose at people who had to get assistance and who struggled to get by because I had never suffered this adversity.  Unfortunately now I am eating my own words.  I have less income, am trying to keep my house and mortgage paid, I have to get WIC in order to make my budget stretch, etc.  Don't come over here and pass judgement for us and our circumstances when you never know what might come your way.  As much as you'd like to think that you have everything all planned out in the event of any "disaster" life just doesn't work that way.

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    imagekjh44:

    I'm not making any comments on raising a child.  But from the second you can see your child (ultrasound), feel your child move and know that your child needs you in order to survive - that makes you a mother.  Motherhood is a nurturing process and from the moment your child is conceived, you're nurturing that baby and keeping that baby safe so he can grow and survive. 

    Owning your own business is awesome.  I own my own business also, but I also doubt that your business is growing massively with the state of our economy.  Even in owning your own business, what if you don't produce enough revenue to pay your bills?  You'd be out of a job.  Nothing is set in stone in this economy.   

    Not everybody feels that way about pregnancy and motherhood. 

    To your second point - that's just it - if my business doesn't do well, I have my H's income to rely on. If he were to be out of work, he could look for another job. If he can't find another job, I can look for a job. We both have educations and extensive work experience, so our likelihood of finding a decent job is much higher than someone with barely a high school education. If neither of us can find jobs, we can live on our savings for a while. And then finally, if no jobs come up in all that time and our savings are exhausted, then we'd have to borrow money, or get help from family or get help from the government. 

    But someone who's 17 and has no partner doesn't have any of those options. At best, she's going to be able to find a job that just barely covers the cost of living and cost of daycare and hopefully has awesome health insurance too. If she loses that job, she's out of luck. It's to family or the government, do not pass go.

    Excellent plan and it's great that you have a cushion in your savings.  What is your plan if DH decides to commit adultrey?  This is what happened to me-DH had just gotten a position as a manager-the job of his dreams and then lost it.  He was depressed and it was difficult for him to find a replacement job and so he went and made himself feel better by seeking comfort with other women. 

    My point is-you come off as extremely SMUG as in, you have life all figured out and these things will never happen to you.  You've got a plan in case any little roadblock is thrown your way.  I was like this as well, had life planned out in a nutshell-married at 23, then we would have children in four years, we had bought a home, had excellent jobs, nice cars, white picket fence-you name it.  But I unfortunately found out that we can't plan everything in life and you can't always forsee what is coming your way.  I looked down my nose at people who had to get assistance and who struggled to get by because I had never suffered this adversity.  Unfortunately now I am eating my own words.  I have less income, am trying to keep my house and mortgage paid, I have to get WIC in order to make my budget stretch, etc.  Don't come over here and pass judgement for us and our circumstances when you never know what might come your way.  As much as you'd like to think that you have everything all planned out in the event of any "disaster" life just doesn't work that way.

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  • imageachase123:

    Excellent plan and it's great that you have a cushion in your savings.  What is your plan if DH decides to commit adultrey?  This is what happened to me-DH had just gotten a position as a manager-the job of his dreams and then lost it.  He was depressed and it was difficult for him to find a replacement job and so he went and made himself feel better by seeking comfort with other women. 

    My point is-you come off as extremely SMUG as in, you have life all figured out and these things will never happen to you.  You've got a plan in case any little roadblock is thrown your way.  I was like this as well, had life planned out in a nutshell-married at 23, then we would have children in four years, we had bought a home, had excellent jobs, nice cars, white picket fence-you name it.  But I unfortunately found out that we can't plan everything in life and you can't always forsee what is coming your way.  I looked down my nose at people who had to get assistance and who struggled to get by because I had never suffered this adversity.  Unfortunately now I am eating my own words.  I have less income, am trying to keep my house and mortgage paid, I have to get WIC in order to make my budget stretch, etc.  Don't come over here and pass judgement for us and our circumstances when you never know what might come your way.  As much as you'd like to think that you have everything all planned out in the event of any "disaster" life just doesn't work that way.

    You're completely and utterly missing my point. My point is that as an older person with an education and work experience, I have a lot more options and things to fall back on should life go wrong than someone who is 17 and has no education or work experience or savings.

    No matter what happens in my life, if my husband cheats on me or if I become accidentally pregnant, whatever, nobody can take away my education or work experience. So I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to with that. 

    I never said that my plans are completely foolproof, and in fact I specifically said that should x, y, z, a, b, c happen, then yes, we'd have to go on government assistance. I never said I look down on people who get government assistance at all. In fact, I specifically said that it exists to provide for people who have run out of other options.

    The difference is that I have Plans A, B, C, D, E, and F. Someone who's 17 and uneducated and unemployed has only Plan A and if it doesn't work out, they're SOL. 

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  • imageamy052006:

    Am I the only one dying to know what kind of business a pregnant 21 year old single parent with an interest in cheerleading owns?

    Not at all. Then again, I'm pregnant and own my own business.*

    *It also happens to be a business in a career I have a degree in and worked in the field for many years to gain experience before starting my own business, but those are minor details.  

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