2nd Trimester

I spoke far too soon....(long!)

For those of you that were around when I took Bacon (the American Bulldog/Pit Bull foster) into my home about a month and a half ago and had to fight DH on it, I followed up only two-ish days ago. He went to a couple who absolutely fell in love with him. They filled out his adoption application, came to see him and he took to them very well. They sent me regular updates via picture messages and telephone calls. We even had plans to get the three dogs (my two, and Bacon) together for a playdate when the weather warmed up.

And so I say... I spoke far too soon. One of the girls had called me on Wednesday to tell me that she noticed there was a speck of blood in Bacon's stool, but he was otherwise acting normal. He was eating, playing, wrestling, no less of energy or acting lethargic. I told her that although I'm not a vet, it IS possible for dogs to have hemmrhoids, even internal ones. After all, he had just been tested and vaccinated for the general canine diseases/viruses that they test for and had a clean bill of health. My second though was, why is she calling me to verify these things when I gave her all of his medical records, which clearly states the history as well as the address and telephone number of the vet office. Hmm... Weird.

She called me yesterday again. I didn't want to deal with her at that time, so I didn't pick up and forgot to call her back. She called again this morning, so I picked up. She proceeded to tell me that she called the vet, and they said it was most likely hemmrhoids as well but if he keeps doing it, to take him in. Ok? And? It was awkward. Like she was asking me to pay his vet bills, because in the next sentence she had said how she doesn't have any money.

ARE.YOU.KIDDING.ME!!!!!! Even on the adoption application it stresses the importance of knowing that dogs will sometimes need emergency vet care, and asked "Are you aware of the expenses that a dog can bring?" Oh no, it gets better. She then says "Well A lost her job yesterday, so she's really upset about that. I just don't know how we can financially keep him." Seriously, I was dumbfounded. They've had him a week. This is exactly what I wanted to avoid for him. This was his fifth home.

I lost patience with her, told her I would take him back because if she's hell bent on getting rid of him, who knows where he would end up? That would have defeated my whole purpose of taking him in in the first place. She called back several minutes later to apologize, and say "It's really hard on us. We really love him. I don't want you to hate me." Um. Too late. 

She was supposed to have brought him back to my house 3 hours ago. No word from her. This girl is a mother F'ing trip. 

Re: I spoke far too soon....(long!)

  • I'd be irate. And at this point I'd go get the dog myself. If she can't take care of him I'd want to make sure I found someone who could--instead of her taking him to the pound or something.
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  • That's horrible!  As if a dog won't have veterinary bills??  We had to take one of our little shih tzus yesterday becaues he was playing ni the snow and scratched his eye.  The drops were $40.  Having a pet is a responsibility.  Both financial and otherwise.  It's so sad that  Bacon is having such a hard time finding his forever home. 
  • Some people are just too horrible and stupid for words.  I'm glad Bacon has a good home, even if just temporary, with you and your family.
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  • I'd be mad too. Go get him.
  • oh poor Bacon!  and how annoying for you!  i'm sorry..that's really unfortunate but maybe it's better off Bacon doesn't stay with them. 
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  • Can you go and pick him up?  I am sorry you are going through this.  They are couple of idiots!!!  Poor Bacon...
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  • It always makes me sad to hear about pets that keep getting shipped from house to house.  Poor guy!  I hope you can find a "forever home" for him!
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  • That's horrible and irresponsible--any animal can have ongoing vet bills. I'm so sorry for this poor dog to be passed around this way.
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  • Oh I feel so bad for him! Poor guy.. Well at least you found out now and he can find a better and real forever home!
  • Oh my gosh! What a nightmare! I would be soooo upset with her. One of my biggest pet peeves ever is pet owners who don't plan for these kinds of things. When you give an animal a home, you should be prepared. You have made a commitment to this animal!

    When we adopted our dog, she had already been in at least two other homes. Its so frustrating! DH and I promised her when we took her in that this would be the last home she would ever have to go to and that we were her forever family. And we meant it!!! I hate when people don't take the commitment seriously!!! ARGH! I'm so sorry this is happening.... keep us updated! good luck!

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  • I would go pick him up, and just being the biitch I am, I would let her know that she agreed to the vet bills and everything when she signed the application and that if she couldn't handle that responsibilty then she doesn't ever need to get a pet again because all pets have vet bills. Wow, some people amaze me. At least Bacon has you to take care of him. I hope he's ok!
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  • Well, not to completely defend that person or take sides...but, unfor. you don't know their situation fully. Sometimes people are financially stable one day and then the next something comes up.

    Like, for example, my husband and I have always been financially sound and then last week we found out we need to put money into our escrow ,so that was roughly $150.00 more a month tacked on for the next year. And now my boss is cutting back my hours (and a few others) due to lack of work to be done. Unfor. she can't do anything about it. Due to the economy a lot of people are losing jobs or having hours cut which makes it difficult for them to keep pets. The only way my husband and I are keeping a float right now is charging rent to his brother who lives with us. In another 6months I will have 2 credit cards paid off (hopefully) and I will have more $ to use in case of something else coming up.

    I do hope he finds a good home in the end!

  • I'd be pissed. And, I'd go get Bacon myself. Some people.
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  • Oh, I AM irate. This was several hours ago, and you know the point where you are so angry that you don't know whether to yell or just break down?

    I just broke down. I was skype-ing with a close friend and was telling her the play by play.

    The argument between DH and I about Bacon in the first place is that he isn't much of a dog person. He cares for my two dogs, yes, but does he want to save the doggy population? No. I was terrified that he would say "No, absolutely not. We aren't taking him back in."

    I was pleasantly surprised. He said, after I was crying that I felt stupid for not seeing through to their core irresponsibility, "You're not stupid, you just wanted the best for him. We will just keep him."

    Very sweet of you, DH, but not the point. It's not about keeping Bacon, but I know that he was trying his best to be supportive. Very nice!

    Anyway, I drive an 05 Honda Civic. I can't fit his cage into my car (I've tried before) and DH's dad has DH's truck today, so DH said "The least they can do is bring him back." Agreed.

    She finally texted me and said she is getting him ready. I GUARANTEE that when I inspect his poop, there will be nothing there because they were lying. I think that they wanted an out, and they knew that playing off of a medical issue would make me jump. DH believes it too, so either way, we'll keep an eye on Bacon and take him to the vet if necessary.  

  • Angry She deserves a throat punch!

     

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    Well, not to completely defend that person or take sides...but, unfor. you don't know their situation fully. Sometimes people are financially stable one day and then the next something comes up.

    Like, for example, my husband and I have always been financially sound and then last week we found out we need to put money into our escrow ,so that was roughly $150.00 more a month tacked on for the next year. And now my boss is cutting back my hours (and a few others) due to lack of work to be done. Unfor. she can't do anything about it. Due to the economy a lot of people are losing jobs or having hours cut which makes it difficult for them to keep pets. The only way my husband and I are keeping a float right now is charging rent to his brother who lives with us. In another 6months I will have 2 credit cards paid off (hopefully) and I will have more $ to use in case of something else coming up.

    I do hope he finds a good home in the end!

    Oh, I understand that. Totally. I'm sorry for your financial hardship. I, too, and experiencing the struggle. I can sympathize with anyone going through it, but what I can't support and/or understand, is that they sought out Bacon. They wanted to take on a dog, and the girl had even said that her girlfriend had just lost her job yesterday. No doubt, jobs are scarce, but one day, and you're ready and willing to give up what you made a commitment to? 

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    She finally texted me and said she is getting him ready. I GUARANTEE that when I inspect his poop, there will be nothing there because they were lying. I think that they wanted an out, and they knew that playing off of a medical issue would make me jump. DH believes it too, so either way, we'll keep an eye on Bacon and take him to the vet if necessary.  

    It sounds like this is definitely the case. What a shame! At least Bacon has you and DH to take care of him. Poor guy! I'm glad DH agreed to keep him. He's already had so much bouncing around. And it sounds like he will be in excellent care with you! Good luck! :)

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  • I don't understand why you're dealing with this.

    Isn't DH the one that caused this problem by bringing the dog home in the first place? I would make him solve the problem.

    Edit: After seeing your other posts, I realized that that was another poster. My apologies.  

     

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  • Did you adopt him out on your own, or do you volunteer with a rescue (I ask b/c most rescues demand the dog be returned for any reason)?  If you did it yourself, maybe you can find a local rescue that will "list" him and screen any potential new adopters if you offer to foster him until the time comes. 

    I think you're doing the right thing and hopefully you're right and they are lying (just so he doesn't need any more medical care).

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    I don't understand why you're dealing with this.

    Isn't DH the one that caused this problem by bringing the dog home in the first place? I would make him solve the problem.

     

    Actually, no. DH just mentioned to me that his friend had a dog that needed a home. My brother had wanted an American Bulldog or a Pit Bull, and since Bacon is a mix of both, we thought it would be great. My brother wanted him, so we took him and gave him to said brother. After a week, brother decided he doesn't have the patience for a dog, much less a puppy, so I was the one that fought for him to stay with us.

    So really.... it's DH that's dealing with something I should have told my brother to deal with when HE said he wanted that dog. 

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    imageEmilyAnn10:

    Well, not to completely defend that person or take sides...but, unfor. you don't know their situation fully. Sometimes people are financially stable one day and then the next something comes up.

    Like, for example, my husband and I have always been financially sound and then last week we found out we need to put money into our escrow ,so that was roughly $150.00 more a month tacked on for the next year. And now my boss is cutting back my hours (and a few others) due to lack of work to be done. Unfor. she can't do anything about it. Due to the economy a lot of people are losing jobs or having hours cut which makes it difficult for them to keep pets. The only way my husband and I are keeping a float right now is charging rent to his brother who lives with us. In another 6months I will have 2 credit cards paid off (hopefully) and I will have more $ to use in case of something else coming up.

    I do hope he finds a good home in the end!

    Oh, I understand that. Totally. I'm sorry for your financial hardship. I, too, and experiencing the struggle. I can sympathize with anyone going through it, but what I can't support and/or understand, is that they sought out Bacon. They wanted to take on a dog, and the girl had even said that her girlfriend had just lost her job yesterday. No doubt, jobs are scarce, but one day, and you're ready and willing to give up what you made a commitment to? 

     

    I think sometimes people look at an adorable animal and don't completely think through things. I know when my husband and I adopted our dog about a year ago we didn't even think about shots, checkups and doggy daycare when we went away. Last summer we spent a pretty penny on Daycare while we went camping and on vacation. Of course, it was worth it because had a blast, got super spoiled and was well taken care of.

    Keep us updated on Bacon and his health. Even if he was pooping a bit of blood it could have been something he ate. Our pup loves to chew on pieces of wood that fall from trees in our yard and in return..well..lets just he has some uncomfortable bowel movements! hehe.

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    Did you adopt him out on your own, or do you volunteer with a rescue (I ask b/c most rescues demand the dog be returned for any reason)?  If you did it yourself, maybe you can find a local rescue that will "list" him and screen any potential new adopters if you offer to foster him until the time comes. 

    I think you're doing the right thing and hopefully you're right and they are lying (just so he doesn't need any more medical care).

    Unfortunately, I don't volunteer for a rescue, but I do volunteer for the dog shelter here in Central Columbus. I haven't done any work for them for quite some time because I don't like the people there. The staff is incredibly rude. It's as if they're pissed off that they are working in the veterinary medicine field. Anyway, in order for Bacon to be on their list, he would have to spend time in the shelter, and it wouldn't be a guarantee that I would be able to foster him, making his "home" count rise.

    The rescues are full. I must have spoken to 20 rescues within a week period. I had ONE rescue that agreed to list him as a foster dog, but they refused to take care of any vet bill, however the applicant had to be screened through them, and they wanted to charge a $150 rehoming fee, which would go automatically to them and not me, the one who has paid his vet bills. Yikes.

     

  • WTF?! I totally understand things happen financially, DH and I aren't as comfy as we were a year ago either, but hello you were looking for a dog. The american bulldog breed generally does have medical issues with their ears the same way bulldogs and pugs typically have hip issues and they are expensive issues. If you want a problem free pet get a goldfish. If it didn't work out then fine it didn't work out but it totally sounds like she made up this story so you would feel sympathy about her giving up.

    I once adopted out a Red nosed Pit I was fostering to a guy that within 24 hours brought her back because "she slobbers alot more than I thought she would''...Confused. This is why the screening process is such a PITA when you go through an agency or the humane society.

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    WTF?! I totally understand things happen financially, DH and I aren't as comfy as we were a year ago either, but hello you were looking for a dog. The american bulldog breed generally does have medical issues with their ears the same way bulldogs and pugs typically have hip issues and they are expensive issues. If you want a problem free pet get a goldfish. If it didn't work out then fine it didn't work out but it totally sounds like she made up this story so you would feel sympathy about her giving up.

    I once adopted out a Red nosed Pit I was fostering to a guy that within 24 hours brought her back because "she slobbers alot more than I thought she would''...Confused. This is why the screening process is such a PITA when you go through an agency or the humane society.

     

    In our area it's really not a PITA to adopt. Yes, we have to fill our paperwork, age, where we work, how we will care for the dog/cat, who will take care of it mostly, where he/she will sleep and so fourth. But it's very rare that they do any background checks or home visits even though they are allowed. I remember a co-worker told me one time her sister wanted a cat but she lived in a soriety house so she wasn't able to adopt, so she had her (co-worker/sister) call the Humane Society and said she was the Mom and the cat was allowed to stay at the house (not the soriety house, but the mom's house). Obviously that was a lie, and within 3wks of having the kitten (around 12 weeks old) it got out of the house during a party and was never seen again. This happened in late November. I know she wanted to get another cat but her sister said she wouldn't do it, she was irresponsible and felt horrible for what she did (lying to the H.S.)

    I think they do need to do more background checks in my area, but honestly, I think if someone wants to adopt they let them. We have so many dogs/cats and many are put down to sleep each week. They likely just pray the animal goes to a good home and that's that.

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    imageMKinney86:

    WTF?! I totally understand things happen financially, DH and I aren't as comfy as we were a year ago either, but hello you were looking for a dog. The american bulldog breed generally does have medical issues with their ears the same way bulldogs and pugs typically have hip issues and they are expensive issues. If you want a problem free pet get a goldfish. If it didn't work out then fine it didn't work out but it totally sounds like she made up this story so you would feel sympathy about her giving up.

    I once adopted out a Red nosed Pit I was fostering to a guy that within 24 hours brought her back because "she slobbers alot more than I thought she would''...Confused. This is why the screening process is such a PITA when you go through an agency or the humane society.

     

    In our area it's really not a PITA to adopt. Yes, we have to fill our paperwork, age, where we work, how we will care for the dog/cat, who will take care of it mostly, where he/she will sleep and so fourth. But it's very rare that they do any background checks or home visits even though they are allowed. I remember a co-worker told me one time her sister wanted a cat but she lived in a soriety house so she wasn't able to adopt, so she had her (co-worker/sister) call the Humane Society and said she was the Mom and the cat was allowed to stay at the house (not the soriety house, but the mom's house). Obviously that was a lie, and within 3wks of having the kitten (around 12 weeks old) it got out of the house during a party and was never seen again. This happened in late November. I know she wanted to get another cat but her sister said she wouldn't do it, she was irresponsible and felt horrible for what she did (lying to the H.S.)

    I think they do need to do more background checks in my area, but honestly, I think if someone wants to adopt they let them. We have so many dogs/cats and many are put down to sleep each week. They likely just pray the animal goes to a good home and that's that.

    That's how most humane society and shelters work.  They have to be like that b/c they are usually partially govt funded and are required to take in surrenders.  That means more animals come in, so they do what they can to get them out before having to euthanize them.    Rescues are more selective b/c they are funded through 100% donations.  They rarely accept owner surrenders.

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    imageEmilyAnn10:
    imageMKinney86:

    WTF?! I totally understand things happen financially, DH and I aren't as comfy as we were a year ago either, but hello you were looking for a dog. The american bulldog breed generally does have medical issues with their ears the same way bulldogs and pugs typically have hip issues and they are expensive issues. If you want a problem free pet get a goldfish. If it didn't work out then fine it didn't work out but it totally sounds like she made up this story so you would feel sympathy about her giving up.

    I once adopted out a Red nosed Pit I was fostering to a guy that within 24 hours brought her back because "she slobbers alot more than I thought she would''...Confused. This is why the screening process is such a PITA when you go through an agency or the humane society.

     

    In our area it's really not a PITA to adopt. Yes, we have to fill our paperwork, age, where we work, how we will care for the dog/cat, who will take care of it mostly, where he/she will sleep and so fourth. But it's very rare that they do any background checks or home visits even though they are allowed. I remember a co-worker told me one time her sister wanted a cat but she lived in a soriety house so she wasn't able to adopt, so she had her (co-worker/sister) call the Humane Society and said she was the Mom and the cat was allowed to stay at the house (not the soriety house, but the mom's house). Obviously that was a lie, and within 3wks of having the kitten (around 12 weeks old) it got out of the house during a party and was never seen again. This happened in late November. I know she wanted to get another cat but her sister said she wouldn't do it, she was irresponsible and felt horrible for what she did (lying to the H.S.)

    I think they do need to do more background checks in my area, but honestly, I think if someone wants to adopt they let them. We have so many dogs/cats and many are put down to sleep each week. They likely just pray the animal goes to a good home and that's that.

    That's how most humane society and shelters work.  They have to be like that b/c they are usually partially govt funded and are required to take in surrenders.  That means more animals come in, so they do what they can to get them out before having to euthanize them.    Rescues are more selective b/c they are funded through 100% donations.  They rarely accept owner surrenders.

    We don't have any Rescues in our area, just SPCA and Humane Society so unfor. IDK much about how they work... :-(

  • imageMKinney86:

    I once adopted out a Red nosed Pit I was fostering to a guy that within 24 hours brought her back because "she slobbers alot more than I thought she would''...Confused. This is why the screening process is such a PITA when you go through an agency or the humane society.

    Um....? What an idiot. I agree with a PP. People get caught up in the cuteness of the animal, but when it becomes a reality, as in, they are living in your home and you deal with them at all times, you're just looking for an excuse to give them away. (If you're irresponsible and a moron, of course)

    I purposely made the process a little bit of a PITA for people, solely because I wanted to weed out those that would want to bring him back for ridiculous reasons, or not take into consideration the commitment, responsibility, time, attention, etc. that it takes to not just have Bacon, but really any dog. Then again, I guess people slip through the cracks no matter how difficult you make it.  

  • For domestic breeds it is alot easier but because of the Pitbull stereotype and bans against them, requirements are much stricter.

    Around here Pitbull rescues are very unrealistic with the standards that they have. Typically applicants have to have 1.) A large fenced backyard 2.) Sometimes have to pay to work with a dog trainer even if the applicant is willing to work with the dog on training 3.) Have to have a work schedule that doesn't leave the dog home alone for more than 4 hours at a time 4.) and with most rescues they will do 3 phone/home interviews before further steps are taken. I understand they want the dogs to go to great homes after what some of the animals have been through but seriously? Not too many people fit the criteria the rescues make them try to fill, so therefore rescues are always full and most of the dogs won't have a chance to find a forever home.

    When I fostered I had my own screening process of work schedule, prior breed experience, and I do a home visit with the dog to see how they react to the environment. I understand not everyone lives on a farm and has hours upon hours on end to spend with the dog, so realistically I look for people that can support a dog and genuinly understand the breed.

  • Wow.  Why are some people so freaking dumb when it comes to the responsibilities of adopting an animal.  That means when things happen, you need to be able and willing to take care of them, be that financially, emotionally, taking on additional stress or whatever!  I am so sorry these people are doing this, and think you are awesome for dealing with it and being there for this dog.  I hope she brings him back to you, and hope they understand that they shouldn't be adopting animals if they aren't willing to take care of them.  Every animal requires unplanned vet visits occasionally!

    Jeesh!  So irritated for you! Angry

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