PSA: regarding c/s

mlf625 · February 2010

If you haven't had one, kindly stfu about the "AWFUL RECOVERY" because you seriously have no idea what you're blathering on about. I read more than one response in the post below from women who have never HAD a baby or who have only delivered vaginally spreading the huge misconception that c/s recovery is going to be hellacious.

Huh? I had a c/s by choice. It was awesome. I loved the experience of DS's birth, it was meaningful and special and joyous, and I felt great by the next morning and was pretty much back to normal by the time we left the hospital. Sure, not everyone's c/s recovery will be so smooth. But don't act like popping a baby out of your vagina is always going to be some walk in the park in comparison, because I saw plenty of moms hobbling the halls of the hospital with an ice pack down their panties looking MUCH more miserable than I was feeling.

So for the ladies who will be having a c/s and had the fear of God put into them by some of those baseless, idiotic comments from uninformed Bumpies- don't stress. There's no way of knowing how you'll recover regardless of how you give birth, but there's a great chance your recovery will be a fast and positive experience. I gladly signed up for c/s #2 and look forward to my birth experience on Friday- having a c/s is no less giving birth than delivering vaginally.

shkdo0701 · February 2010

Thanks

rysmomsn2banother · February 2010

So right a vaginal birth was no walk in the park! lol I had a vaginal birth w. my first and doc informed me if Mr. man does not turn ill be having a c-section. On the fence about it im not to sure. Either way i cant wait to hold my baby! vaginal birth or c-section as long as were both okay!

IrishBrideND · February 2010

I agree that people shouldn't be saying the recovery is awful BUT statistically it usually takes more time to recover from a c/s. I don't think its horrible to say thats a reason one would like to avoid it if all possible. Nor do I think stating that means people think a vaginal delivery is a "walk in the park."

I got from that thread that any reason one would prefer to not have a c/s was "bs" according to some.

Ciconrad · February 2010

I have so many friends who had c/s and said the recovery wasn't that big of a deal. I had a very easy vaginal birth and the recovery was still no walk in the park. I couldn't sit on anything hard for probably 10 days and would get searing pains from my stitches when I would stand up. I had ice packs down my ants for days. You just pushed out a 7 lb + baby ladies, you are going to hurt no matter what.

And while we are at it, let's add inductions to this. Not EVERY induction is this hellacious, awful experience. Not EVERY induction ends in a c/s or means you have contractions every 30 seconds. If you are planning on having an epi, the contractions are no big deal anyways. I am not saying to not avoid one if its unnecessary or you want a med-free birth, but if you end up with an induction, there is a good chance you will have a just fine experience, like I did. 4 hours labor and 7 min of pushing and it was rather painless (I planned on an epi no matter what).

Mrs.Wes2 · February 2010

WOW......completely agreed!

ddelo23 · February 2010

I wish my recovery was easy with my cs!! but maybe because I went in labor first, and then it was an emergency c? either way, i agree that a birth is a birth!!! it's special no matter which way1

Heather R · February 2010

::swooning in love with mlf::

mlf625 · February 2010

IrishBrideND:
I agree that people shouldn't be saying the recovery is awful BUT statistically it usually takes more time to recover from a c/s.

bla, bla, bla. Again- have you had one and are you speaking from experience? And if not, where are you getting these statistics of yours? Dr. Ricki Lake? Because I see one of the best OBs in my city and he says his c/s moms and his vaginal moms typically recover at equal paces.

My point: do what you please with your vagina, but don't go around scaring the shiit out of women who are facing their first c/s by stating falsehoods and misconceptions.

Ciconrad · February 2010

mlf625:
IrishBrideND:

I agree that people shouldn't be saying the recovery is awful BUT statistically it usually takes more time to recover from a c/s.

bla, bla, bla. Again- have you had one and are you speaking from experience? And if not, where are you getting these statistics of yours? Dr. Ricki Lake? Because I see one of the best OBs in my city and he says his c/s moms and his vaginal moms typically recover at equal paces.

My point: do what you please with your vagina, but don't go around scaring the shiit out of women who are facing their first c/s by stating falsehoods and misconceptions.

Bwahaha....LMAO at Dr. Ricki Lake.

IrishBrideND · February 2010

mlf625:
IrishBrideND:

I agree that people shouldn't be saying the recovery is awful BUT statistically it usually takes more time to recover from a c/s.

bla, bla, bla. Again- have you had one and are you speaking from experience? And if not, where are you getting these statistics of yours? Dr. Ricki Lake? Because I see one of the best OBs in my city and he says his c/s moms and his vaginal moms typically recover at equal paces.

My point: do what you please with your vagina, but don't go around scaring the shiit out of women who are facing their first c/s by stating falsehoods and misconceptions.

wow. There was ZERO reason to be nasty.

a) I never said anything to scare those who are planning c/s.

b) My tone was not nasty in the least

To answer your question, its been in every pregnancy book I've read. Its also why you tend to get more recovery time from a job if you have a c/s. My doc (who is great, too) also said the same thing. I have to return to grad school in about 2 weeks after giving birth. He said he will likely not clear me to do so after a c/s because odds are I won't be cleared to drive and such by then, but I have better odds of being cleared if I have a vaginal delivery. Now, who knows what will happen. I could have a 4th degree tear and be screwed.

Again, I do not think c/s are horrible at all. All I said in the original thread was that I personaly would like to avoid surgery, but I would not be upset if I ended up having one.

I just got the vibe that even saying that I'd personally prefer not to have a c/s was seen as ridiculous and such by some on here. And, I don't particularly understand why.

shkdo0701 · February 2010

StarAnnice:

::slow clap::

I've had a vag delivery which included a couple of tears. My BFF had a c/s. I was jealous of her recovery. It took months (and I mean much longer than just 2 or 3) for my nether-regions to return to a state where I wasn't wincing in pain every time I urinated...we won't even talk about deficating.

Of course, every individual heals differently. And, for those worried about scars: do you really think the rest of your body is going to ever return to what it was pre-pg? A c-section scar will be the least of your worries.

i didn't tear but they cut me clear to my @$$ hole both times ya it hurts like b!tch!!! My spray bottle was my best friend!

mlf625 · February 2010

hercules03:
And having major surgery for convenience and nothing else is silly, IMO. Your baby is upside down or in duress, sure have the c/s - but scheduling for mere convenience, most people would agree is absurd and selfish and any decent doctor would NEVER agree to a c/s based on convenience alone.

LOL! Tell me where you got your medical degree and how long you've been in practice, then talk to me about whether my choice of birth is silly and selfish or not and what any "decent doctor" would do. Until then, again, kindly stay out of my lady parts and I'll stay out of yours.

MrsPedersen · February 2010

I ended up having a section and honestly my recovery seemed pretty tame compared to some stories I have heard from other ladies who delivered vaginally. Everyone's body is different and I agree, you have no idea how you will recover until you endure it!

shkdo0701 · February 2010

StarAnnice:
shkdo0701:
StarAnnice:

::slow clap::

I've had a vag delivery which included a couple of tears. My BFF had a c/s. I was jealous of her recovery. It took months (and I mean much longer than just 2 or 3) for my nether-regions to return to a state where I wasn't wincing in pain every time I urinated...we won't even talk about deficating.

Of course, every individual heals differently. And, for those worried about scars: do you really think the rest of your body is going to ever return to what it was pre-pg? A c-section scar will be the least of your worries.

i didn't tear but they cut me clear to my @$$ hole both times ya it hurts like b!tch!!! My spray bottle was my best friend!

Did they give you the freeze-spray? *sigh* That stuff was heavenly. I'd rather it be frozen and numb than stinging in pain!

No just plain water but they gave me TONS of witch hazel wipes. NEedless to say I bought witch hazel and it is coming with me to the hospital!

Tess12 · February 2010

I just wish people who have not had a c/s would stfu entirely instead of pontificating on whether or not someone has the right to feel upset about a c/s or whether or not a c/s is medically necessary or whether the recovery is worse or better than a vaginal birth. You have no idea what you're talking about if you've never been through it. It's insulting to those of us who have had the experience.

And, yes, every birth is different. Some women recover great from a c/s while others struggle to recover from a vaginal birth. It all depends on the woman and her body and her particular experience.

katater · February 2010

Thank you. I was terrified of having a c/s for #1...and lo and behold, needed an emergency C. Honestly, after talking to my mom and other friends who had vaginal births for equivalently sized kiddos (9.5 lbs) and who have *lasting* pelvic floor issues/tearing, I must say I can't decide which one would have been "easier" to recover from - but my c/s was not bad, not bad at all.

iris427 · February 2010

Tess12:
I just wish people who have not had a c/s would stfu entirely instead of pontificating on whether or not someone has the right to feel upset about a c/s or whether or not a c/s is medically necessary or whether the recovery is worse or better than a vaginal birth. You have no idea what you're talking about if you've never been through it. It's insulting to those of us who have had the experience.
And, yes, every birth is different. Some women recover great from a c/s while others struggle to recover from a vaginal birth. It all depends on the woman and her body and her particular experience.

A-fvcking-men.

And my c/s recovery was amazingly fast and easy. I really do think it was easier than many vaginal birth recoveries.

robinsokj · February 2010

mlf625:
IrishBrideND:
I agree that people shouldn't be saying the recovery is awful BUT statistically it usually takes more time to recover from a c/s.
bla, bla, bla. Again- have you had one and are you speaking from experience? And if not, where are you getting these statistics of yours? Dr. Ricki Lake? Because I see one of the best OBs in my city and he says his c/s moms and his vaginal moms typically recover at equal paces.
My point: do what you please with your vagina, but don't go around scaring the shiit out of women who are facing their first c/s by stating falsehoods and misconceptions.

The experiences of one doctor cannot be a replacement for widespread statistics.

Ciconrad · February 2010

mlf625:
hercules03:

And having major surgery for convenience and nothing else is silly, IMO. Your baby is upside down or in duress, sure have the c/s - but scheduling for mere convenience, most people would agree is absurd and selfish and any decent doctor would NEVER agree to a c/s based on convenience alone.

LOL! Tell me where you got your medical degree and how long you've been in practice, then talk to me about whether my choice of birth is silly and selfish or not and what any "decent doctor" would do. Until then, again, kindly stay out of my lady parts and I'll stay out of yours.

MLF - I think she just told you have a quack for an OB/Gyn! Bwahahaha....

I guess mine is too for letting me consider a convenience induction at 39 weeks this time. Ya know...because he doesn't know my history of an easy induction and delivery #1 and sympathize with my situation of having a 2 year old and no family or friends in town and sort of needing to have some sort of plan for my child. He's just letting me do it for sh!ts and giggles!

iris427 · February 2010

hercules03:
mlf625:
hercules03:

And having major surgery for convenience and nothing else is silly, IMO. Your baby is upside down or in duress, sure have the c/s - but scheduling for mere convenience, most people would agree is absurd and selfish and any decent doctor would NEVER agree to a c/s based on convenience alone.
LOL! Tell me where you got your medical degree and how long you've been in practice, then talk to me about whether my choice of birth is silly and selfish or not and what any "decent doctor" would do. Until then, again, kindly stay out of my lady parts and I'll stay out of yours.
Higher Death Risk in ?Convenience C-sections?
A new study has found a higher risk of infant deaths among infants born by Caesarian section to mothers who have no medical need for the procedure.
Researchers could find no explanation for the difference, and noted that while C-sections have saved the lives of ?countless? women and babies, and the risk of infant death is still very low, further study is crucial as voluntary C-sections become increasingly common, said researchers at the National enter for Health Statistics.
A greater risk of death has previously been seen among infants born via the procedure, but researchers have generally assumed that this was because the infants were more likely to die due to other causes.
To investigate whether the C-section itself might somehow be a factor, the researchers looked at data from more than 5.8 million births between 1998 and 2001.
Among women at ?no indicated risk? for a C-section, meaning a single, full-term infant in a head-down position, with no other complications, there was a 49 percent increase in C-sections between 1996 and 2001.
The risk of death in the first 28 days of life was 1.77 per 1,000 live births among women who had C-sections, compared to 0.62 per 1,000 for women who delivered vaginally.
https://www.infinitehealthresources.com/Store/Resource/Article/1-4/2/889.html
Find me one reliable source that states that convenience c-sections are at ever in the best interest of the infant and mother? If you have absolutely NO MEDICAL REASON to be having a c-section, then yeah, it's selfish.

Look, I personally would not choose an elective cesarean for myself. But calling moms who do "selfish" is ridiculous. What other women do with their body is their right and none of your damn business.

mlf625 · February 2010

hercules03:
mlf625:
hercules03:

And having major surgery for convenience and nothing else is silly, IMO. Your baby is upside down or in duress, sure have the c/s - but scheduling for mere convenience, most people would agree is absurd and selfish and any decent doctor would NEVER agree to a c/s based on convenience alone.
LOL! Tell me where you got your medical degree and how long you've been in practice, then talk to me about whether my choice of birth is silly and selfish or not and what any "decent doctor" would do. Until then, again, kindly stay out of my lady parts and I'll stay out of yours.
Higher Death Risk in ?Convenience C-sections?
A new study has found a higher risk of infant deaths among infants born by Caesarian section to mothers who have no medical need for the procedure.
Researchers could find no explanation for the difference, and noted that while C-sections have saved the lives of ?countless? women and babies, and the risk of infant death is still very low, further study is crucial as voluntary C-sections become increasingly common, said researchers at the National enter for Health Statistics.
A greater risk of death has previously been seen among infants born via the procedure, but researchers have generally assumed that this was because the infants were more likely to die due to other causes.
To investigate whether the C-section itself might somehow be a factor, the researchers looked at data from more than 5.8 million births between 1998 and 2001.
Among women at ?no indicated risk? for a C-section, meaning a single, full-term infant in a head-down position, with no other complications, there was a 49 percent increase in C-sections between 1996 and 2001.
The risk of death in the first 28 days of life was 1.77 per 1,000 live births among women who had C-sections, compared to 0.62 per 1,000 for women who delivered vaginally.
https://www.infinitehealthresources.com/Store/Resource/Article/1-4/2/889.html
Find me one reliable source that states that convenience c-sections are at ever in the best interest of the infant and mother? If you have absolutely NO MEDICAL REASON to be having a c-section, then yeah, it's selfish.

Oh Gawd. Congrats on your Google skillz. Listen, honey, we could sit here c&p'ing conflicting info we dig up from the Interwebs all night long. For every "C/S WILL MAKE YOU DIE FO'SHO!" article YOU dig up, I'll find another saying "C/S BEST WAY TO DELIVER EVER!"

So once more: unless you've had the experience OR actually know what you're talking about, stfu.

Ciconrad · February 2010

hercules03:
mlf625:
hercules03:

And having major surgery for convenience and nothing else is silly, IMO. Your baby is upside down or in duress, sure have the c/s - but scheduling for mere convenience, most people would agree is absurd and selfish and any decent doctor would NEVER agree to a c/s based on convenience alone.

LOL! Tell me where you got your medical degree and how long you've been in practice, then talk to me about whether my choice of birth is silly and selfish or not and what any "decent doctor" would do. Until then, again, kindly stay out of my lady parts and I'll stay out of yours.

Higher Death Risk in ?Convenience C-sections?

A new study has found a higher risk of infant deaths among infants born by Caesarian section to mothers who have no medical need for the procedure.
Researchers could find no explanation for the difference, and noted that while C-sections have saved the lives of ?countless? women and babies, and the risk of infant death is still very low, further study is crucial as voluntary C-sections become increasingly common, said researchers at the National enter for Health Statistics.
A greater risk of death has previously been seen among infants born via the procedure, but researchers have generally assumed that this was because the infants were more likely to die due to other causes.
To investigate whether the C-section itself might somehow be a factor, the researchers looked at data from more than 5.8 million births between 1998 and 2001.
Among women at ?no indicated risk? for a C-section, meaning a single, full-term infant in a head-down position, with no other complications, there was a 49 percent increase in C-sections between 1996 and 2001.
The risk of death in the first 28 days of life was 1.77 per 1,000 live births among women who had C-sections, compared to 0.62 per 1,000 for women who delivered vaginally.

https://www.infinitehealthresources.com/Store/Resource/Article/1-4/2/889.html

Find me one reliable source that states that convenience c-sections are at ever in the best interest of the infant and mother? If you have absolutely NO MEDICAL REASON to be having a c-section, then yeah, it's selfish.

And this study was commissioned by who? I am not saying it's not a valid study but really before you just take some article off the internet and quote it to say that c-sections results in more INFANT DEATHS, it's smart to understand who did the study, who commissioned the study, how big of a sample size was used...etc. One article off the internet will never surplant my OB/gyns advice. Sorry, try again.

mlf625 · February 2010

Ciconrad:

MLF - I think she just told you have a quack for an OB/Gyn! Bwahahaha....

Yep. Her 2 second Google search FOR SURE trumps his 20 years of experience, People magazine feature, and generally stellar reputation as one of Austin's best and most loved OBs.

Nutter.

Heather R · February 2010

hercules03:

WOW! Sooo vicious!

Several posts ago, someone asked us who we judge - and several ppl pointed out that they judge those that induce or c/s for NO MEDICAL REASON - just out of convenience. I think that is where this kicked off.

And having major surgery for convenience and nothing else is silly, IMO. Your baby is upside down or in duress, sure have the c/s - but scheduling for mere convenience, most people would agree is absurd and selfish and any decent doctor would NEVER agree to a c/s based on convenience alone.

Having a baby, being pregnant, all that jazz is no walk in the park - nobody ever said it was.

So, let's all agree to disagree and move on.

No one is talking about convenience. We're talking about people who only heard x,y, and z about c-sections and yet feel comfortable telling those of us who have had them how much worse they are.

Ciconrad · February 2010

hercules03:
Ciconrad:
mlf625:
hercules03:

And having major surgery for convenience and nothing else is silly, IMO. Your baby is upside down or in duress, sure have the c/s - but scheduling for mere convenience, most people would agree is absurd and selfish and any decent doctor would NEVER agree to a c/s based on convenience alone.

LOL! Tell me where you got your medical degree and how long you've been in practice, then talk to me about whether my choice of birth is silly and selfish or not and what any "decent doctor" would do. Until then, again, kindly stay out of my lady parts and I'll stay out of yours.

MLF - I think she just told you have a quack for an OB/Gyn! Bwahahaha....

I guess mine is too for letting me consider a convenience induction at 39 weeks this time. Ya know...because he doesn't know my history of an easy induction and delivery #1 and sympathize with my situation of having a 2 year old and no family or friends in town and sort of needing to have some sort of plan for my child. He's just letting me do it for sh!ts and giggles!

That's where I differ. It's one thing to have a non-medical induction but that's not major surgery.

Sucks that you have no friends though.

Yeah...no friends, that's it. All of my friends actually have kids and would watch DS but it would have to be at their house and it's not exactly a great option to pack a 23 month old up at a moment's notice, separate him from mom and dad for 2 days at a place he's never spent any significant amount of time, have him sleeping in a PNP and totally off his routine and then brought back home to this new baby in his house. Or we can have Grandma fly in and keep him in his usual surroundings and routine....

iris427 · February 2010

hercules03:

That's where I differ. It's one thing to have a non-medical induction but that's not major surgery.
Sucks that you have no friends though.

But why? Inductions carry risks. Cesareans carry risks. In fact, inductions are more likely to lead to cesarean than a spontaneous labor. So why is one OK when the other isn't?

Shouldn't it be up to the individual woman about where she wants to draw the line about what is acceptable and what isn't?

Heather R · February 2010

hercules03:
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Higher Death Risk in ?Convenience C-sections?

A new study has found a higher risk of infant deaths among infants born by Caesarian section to mothers who have no medical need for the procedure.
Researchers could find no explanation for the difference, and noted that while C-sections have saved the lives of ?countless? women and babies, and the risk of infant death is still very low, further study is crucial as voluntary C-sections become increasingly common, said researchers at the National enter for Health Statistics.
A greater risk of death has previously been seen among infants born via the procedure, but researchers have generally assumed that this was because the infants were more likely to die due to other causes.
To investigate whether the C-section itself might somehow be a factor, the researchers looked at data from more than 5.8 million births between 1998 and 2001.
Among women at ?no indicated risk? for a C-section, meaning a single, full-term infant in a head-down position, with no other complications, there was a 49 percent increase in C-sections between 1996 and 2001.
The risk of death in the first 28 days of life was 1.77 per 1,000 live births among women who had C-sections, compared to 0.62 per 1,000 for women who delivered vaginally.

https://www.infinitehealthresources.com/Store/Resource/Article/1-4/2/889.html

Find me one reliable source that states that convenience c-sections are at ever in the best interest of the infant and mother? If you have absolutely NO MEDICAL REASON to be having a c-section, then yeah, it's selfish.

no one is farking talking about convenience. What part of that don't you get?

There is no reason to scare the women on here, which seems to be your only purpose, since you are ignoring *our* purpose, which is to provide comfort and experience on the subject.

Now stfu.

Rory419 · February 2010

iris427:
hercules03:

That's where I differ. It's one thing to have a non-medical induction but that's not major surgery.

Sucks that you have no friends though.

But why? Inductions carry risks. Cesareans carry risks. In fact, inductions are more likely to lead to cesarean than a spontaneous labor. So why is one OK when the other isn't?

Shouldn't it be up to the individual woman about where she wants to draw the line about what is acceptable and what isn't?

I agree with this. I do not want a c/s, but I also do not want an induction. That is my personal preference, even though I understand in some cases one or both may be necessary. I will say I would rather have a scheduled c/s than an induction followed by a c/s.

I appreciate seeing all the women who have had sucessful c-sections and it is encouraging to read. One of the downsides to being part of the "natural birth community" is a lot of people will say that a c-section is supposed to be the worst thing ever, which I do NOT agree with. However, just because I have not had a c-section does not mean my concerns are not valid. I have had major abdominal surgery which was the result of an emergency situation and I would prefer not to go through it again; even if a vaginal birth could potentially give me a worse (or different) recovery.

mlf625 · February 2010

hercules03:
WHY is it criticized to bring sources to the table? You KNOCK me for not being a freakin' MD but if I bring reliable information to the table you knock that.
The truth hurts, I understand. Does telling me and others to STFU anytime you disagree or don't understand make you feel better? Then keep doing hunny - you aren't hurting my feelings.

Dear God. You're exhausting.

1) It's HONEY. HUNNY = not a word.

2) Reliable info = personal experience or something you've studied in depth on your own, not some article you pull of the web to back up your stance.

Heather R · February 2010

hercules03:

WHY is it criticized to bring sources to the table? You KNOCK me for not being a freakin' MD but if I bring reliable information to the table you knock that.

The truth hurts, I understand. Does telling me and others to STFU anytime you disagree or don't understand make you feel better? Then keep doing hunny - you aren't hurting my feelings.

The truth is that c/s save lives, and I don't know where you're getting convenience from, as we were not talking about that in the past 2 points.

The issue here is not that I disagree with you. The issues are is that you're trying to scare and upset people, and we are trying to do the opposite, and you are ignoring the context for this entire discussion.

Ciconrad · February 2010

hercules03:
Ciconrad:
hercules03:
Ciconrad:
mlf625:
hercules03:

And having major surgery for convenience and nothing else is silly, IMO. Your baby is upside down or in duress, sure have the c/s - but scheduling for mere convenience, most people would agree is absurd and selfish and any decent doctor would NEVER agree to a c/s based on convenience alone.

LOL! Tell me where you got your medical degree and how long you've been in practice, then talk to me about whether my choice of birth is silly and selfish or not and what any "decent doctor" would do. Until then, again, kindly stay out of my lady parts and I'll stay out of yours.

MLF - I think she just told you have a quack for an OB/Gyn! Bwahahaha....

I guess mine is too for letting me consider a convenience induction at 39 weeks this time. Ya know...because he doesn't know my history of an easy induction and delivery #1 and sympathize with my situation of having a 2 year old and no family or friends in town and sort of needing to have some sort of plan for my child. He's just letting me do it for sh!ts and giggles!

That's where I differ. It's one thing to have a non-medical induction but that's not major surgery.

Sucks that you have no friends though.

Yeah...no friends, that's it. All of my friends actually have kids and would watch DS but it would have to be at their house and it's not exactly a great option to pack a 23 month old up at a moment's notice, separate him from mom and dad for 2 days at a place he's never spent any significant amount of time, have him sleeping in a PNP and totally off his routine and then brought back home to this new baby in his house. Or we can have Grandma fly in and keep him in his usual surroundings and routine....

YOU SAID you have no friends. I didn't just make that up. Dang.

Let me suggest you spend less time scrutinizing every word of my post and more time making sure you are quoting valid studies and statistics before you start spouting to a bunch of pregnant women (many of which will end up with c/s) about how their babies are more likely to DIE if they have a c/s.

mlf625 · February 2010

hercules03:

Sucks that you have no friends though.

lmfao. SNAPS!

Heather R · February 2010

mlf625:

Then keep doing hunny

I take you much more seriously now.

Tess12 · February 2010

hercules03:
Heather R:
hercules03:

WOW! Sooo vicious!

Several posts ago, someone asked us who we judge - and several ppl pointed out that they judge those that induce or c/s for NO MEDICAL REASON - just out of convenience. I think that is where this kicked off.

And having major surgery for convenience and nothing else is silly, IMO. Your baby is upside down or in duress, sure have the c/s - but scheduling for mere convenience, most people would agree is absurd and selfish and any decent doctor would NEVER agree to a c/s based on convenience alone.

Having a baby, being pregnant, all that jazz is no walk in the park - nobody ever said it was.

So, let's all agree to disagree and move on.

No one is talking about convenience. We're talking about people who only heard x,y, and z about c-sections and yet feel comfortable telling those of us who have had them how much worse they are.

The OP said she had a c/s for nothing more than convenience.

No, she didn't. She said she had one "by choice" which could mean any number of things. My doctor wanted me to schedule a c/s because he didn't think I would deliver vaginally. I chose to try the vaginal delivery anyway, but if I had chosen the c/s, it wouldn't have been for convenience, it would have been on the advice of the doctor. But still not a situation like breech, where I had no choice but to do the c/s.

mlf625 · February 2010

hercules03:

Doesn't Winnie the Pooh spell Honey, Hunny?

I have no idea. I don't get my grammar lessons from a cartoon character, just like I don't get my medical advice from the Net.

Anyway, this is getting boring. Over and out.

mlf625 · February 2010

Tess12:
]No, she didn't. She said she had one "by choice" which could mean any number of things.

ding ding ding! Reading skills ... Tess has 'em.

Heather R · February 2010

hercules03:

DAMN! Read before you B*TCH at me! The FIRST line of OP's SECOND PARAGRAPH says she had her c/s because she CHOSE to. She's not denying that... I am NOT TRYING TO SCARE ANYONE. I simply said it makes no sense to have a c/s for a non-medical reason.

READ READ READ and then come yell at me. Thanks.

She said by choice. Not the same. At all.

READ READ READREADREADREAD. That's what you said to me, right, genius?

Comprehension=fail. And you seem to fail at life, too.

READ READREADREADREAD before you come yell at me and swear. lolz.

MrsColvin · February 2010

I personally agree with you that if they haven't been thru ut they need to not dish out advice.. But let me add that if they haven't been thru a birth at all they shouldn't act like they are the go to person and knows what's best for everyone. I'm getting really tired of women that have never been thru ANY type of birth of a baby and flaming the he!! Out of people for their fears/thoughts/vents and trying to give their "expert" opinion on it! When people ask for opinions from people that have been thru it then it needs to be answered by people that have been thru it not those that have read a book and now think they know everything!

Ciconrad · February 2010

mlf625:
hercules03:

Doesn't Winnie the Pooh spell Honey, Hunny?

I have no idea. I don't get my grammar lessons from a cartoon character, just like I don't get my medical advice from the Net.

Anyway, this is getting boring. Over and out.

Couldn't agree more....BIFF

gunsofbrixton · February 2010

I am totally in love with you...are you single?

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