Anyone going (has gone) diaperless????

ShinyHappyMe · May 2009

That's our plan - go diaperless (for the most part) but with some cloth diaper back ups ... for sleepytime and car rides to start with pbly...

Anyone I tell looks at me like I have 2 heads though! Anyone out there who can relate???

EnglishMajor03 · May 2009

I'm not even sure what you mean by this. You aren't planning to diaper your newborn? Are you starting to potty train right away? What are you going to do when he/she pees everywhere?

ShinyHappyMe · May 2009

Hahahaa! This is exactly what I mean by looking at me like I have 2 heads (I can just imagine you looking at my post!). )

It's called a couple of different things: Natural Infant Hygiene, Elimination Communication (EC)...

We plan to keep baby diaperless as much as possible... and as close to one of us as much as possible. Otherwise, during sleep and carrides... baby will have a cloth diaper (and pbly when we visit people...) until we get the hang of being able to tell when baby needs to eliminate.

Many cultures use EC instead of diapers. Mothers are totally in tune with their child's need to potty. You have to figure out their 'tells' and then put them in their elimination position and make a sound to help them connect the 2 things (pottying and the sound). Most children can be out of diapers between 12 and 15 months (although I was out around 15 months even though Mom used diapers, albeit cloth diapers, with me).

A lot has changed in the history of diapering - just as in the history of birthing. A lot of kids are in diapers much, much later than 15 months now... even up to 4 and 5 years... due to society's reliance on the convenience of diapers (imo based on my research).

However, I am still interested in talking to other Moms and Dads who have tried this here in our western society and how it's worked and hasn't worked for them. But that's kinda the idea. Google it!

AlisaS · May 2009

Diapers are a good things. Keeps crap off the furniture.

tmrtink · May 2009

Ummm...I don't really know what to say about this one. I do understand that some cultures don't use diapers, but isn't that normally because they don't have access to them? I guess I'm struggling with WHY you would want to do it-what is the benefit? Other than lessening your footprint and all...

citygirl_ · May 2009

AlisaS:
Diapers are a good things. Keeps crap off the furniture.

lol, my thoughts exactly! The times we've gone diaperless (you know, child running away during a diaper change) have ended up veeeeeeeery badly. My child handed me a turd last month.

I'm just confused as to how you would "potty train" a newborn. Unlike adults, newborns don't hold in their pee - they just let it fly whenever. Unless you'll be sitting over a toilet with your baby all day, how would that even work? Seems sort of impossible to me, but eh, to each his own.

funchicken · May 2009

I haven't done this, but I've heard of it. I don't think it would work for me, but it's an interesting idea. I think if you want to give a try, more power to you! Good luck!!!

kari582 · May 2009

I have a friend who does this, but basically only after breakfast- and she's a SAHM (obviously, I don't know how you would do this if you worked). Basically, she figured out when her DS had a bowel movement (right after breakfast) and she puts him on the little potty and does the sign for "potty" and he goes. If she doesn't do it, he will still have a bowel movement, but not until later in the day. Also, she didn't start this until her son was about 7 months old

That being said....my DD isn't "regular" like that. She goes at all different times of the day, every day. Also, although I'm open to different....uhh...techniques, and I'm a "to each his own" kinda gal, I do have a lot of skeptism about this. You said that you would keep your child diaperless and close to one of you at all time....ok, well, good luck with that. I just think this would be better to do when your child is a bit older...my DD was a wonderful newborn and I still was exhausted with everything...IMO, I'm not sure that trying to potty train a newborn is really what you're going to want to do...but I could be wrong. However, again, to each his own, and I wish you the best of luck! Here's hoping you have an easy-going baby!

citygirl_ · May 2009

kari582:

I have a friend who does this, but basically only after breakfast- and she's a SAHM (obviously, I don't know how you would do this if you worked). Basically, she figured out when her DS had a bowel movement (right after breakfast) and she puts him on the little potty and does the sign for "potty" and he goes. If she doesn't do it, he will still have a bowel movement, but not until later in the day. Also, she didn't start this until her son was about 7 months old

That being said....my DD isn't "regular" like that. She goes at all different times of the day, every day. Also, although I'm open to different....uhh...techniques, and I'm a "to each his own" kinda gal, I do have a lot of skeptism about this. You said that you would keep your child diaperless and close to one of you at all time....ok, well, good luck with that. I just think this would be better to do when your child is a bit older...my DD was a wonderful newborn and I still was exhausted with everything...IMO, I'm not sure that trying to potty train a newborn is really what you're going to want to do...but I could be wrong. However, again, to each his own, and I wish you the best of luck! Here's hoping you have an easy-going baby!

I had a very easy newborn and I totally agree. He slept well, too, but it was EXHAUSTING... physically, emotionally... hormones changing, breastfeeding, getting used to my new role as a mom, etc... eek!

Anyway, kari, your daughter is a DOLL. What a cutie!!!

DevonPow · May 2009

You can't potty train an infant, but it is true that you can sometimes "train" yourself to notice signs, etc. of when an infant is about to go.

That said, I love my son dearly but have (and had) zero desire to wear him 24 hours a day, which is basically what this entails - and even then you can't be sure this would work. To each their own, but when he was a newborn I liked getting what sleep I could, and when he was older I liked to be able to have 5 minutes to myself every now and again. I cannot fathom doing something like this. Especially considering that diapers these days are so absorbent that you can sometimes have trouble even telling that your infant peed at all, I don't think it is a hardship on them to wear a diaper. Plus, some kids aren't regular - DS is all over the place with his pooping. Different times of day, some days 3-4 times, some days not at all.

Plus, from some of my anthropology classes I seem to recall that the moms in some cultures would notice their infants needing to pee, whip them out of their wrapping, and simply hold them away from their body to pee as they walked along. Yeah - you can't really do that in the grocery store.

ali-1411 · May 2009

DevonPow:

Plus, from some of my anthropology classes I seem to recall that the moms in some cultures would notice their infants needing to pee, whip them out of their wrapping, and simply hold them away from their body to pee as they walked along. Yeah - you can't really do that in the grocery store.

LOL

Didn't this cause some drama in Japan last year because people were having their babies pee in public sinks?

nictel · May 2009

I consider myself educated and pretty open-minded, but I have to say this sounds unrealistic to say the least. I also think that it is unfair to your baby. Your baby should be spending their time, cuddling, exploring, learning new things, not being forced to learn how to communicate when they need to use the bathroom, and spending hours over a toilet. They have the rest of their lives to be "trained". For God's sake, just let the baby be a baby!!

cp760 · May 2009

That's pretty much what we did. One day we took the diapers off and that was that. Of course the trick, at least with my kids, was to make sure they were 100% ready (they were about 2 3/4 years old). Then we took the diaper off, put on undies and they were trained. I still have 1 more little boy to potty train, I am keeping my fingers crossed that we'll go 3 for 3 with having success with this approach. Good luck!

LizLovesJason · May 2009

I've heard of this but wouldn't try it. If you're planning to breastfeed, I can tell you that breastfed babies have pretty much liquid poop as newborns! And they tend to poop MANY times a day. When my kids were newborns, it seemed like nearly every diaper I changed (which seemed to be at least once an hour) was a messy one. Honestly, I can't imagine how you wouldn't be covered in poop trying to do this. If you're really intent on doing it, I would recommend at least waiting until the baby is several months old. Having a newborn is stressful enough as it is.

SportsLover · May 2009

Honestly, I'm not trying to be judgemental, but I think you need to spend a day with a newborn. My sons were bfed for the first few months and pooped several times a day. I was with them nonstop and there is not way I could have recognized if/when they were going. We probably changed each at least 10x per day. Not to be gross, but their poops were liquidy and often before I could blink. I don't think I would have had time to even take them to the bathroom or sink to go. Besides, who wants to constantly be cleaning up poop. You are going to be tired and the exhaustion is going to impact the instint you need. I think the method you are writing about is when a baby is older...maybe 7-10 months old???

la79al · May 2009

This is your first child, isn't it?

AlisaS · May 2009

One stomach flu and that will go out the window. The funniest thing is the insuation that if mothers were better moms and more in tune with their babies they wouldn't need diapers, when in fact, it is an example of a mother trying to hard too control the child.

roses_wish · May 2009

We sure havent gone diaperless, but I admire you for wanting to be so in tune with your baby's needs, that you can sense when he/she needs to go potty! I cant imagine the patience it will take! Good Luck to you!

ithadtobeyou · May 2009

Well, I certainly won't look at you like you have two heads, because I have gotten the same type of responses at times for not vaccinating DS.

I really admire your desire to be in tune with your baby, and I think you can also do that without going totally diaperless. I held DS as much as I possibly could for the first few months..and kept him close but let him explore as he got older. We are definitely AP parents. But the diaperless thing, as other pp's have said, I just think it would be beyond difficult with a newborn.

Don't worry though Mama Bear. You will be great, and being a mom is one of those experiences where you defintely do learn things as you go along.

Have you been on mothering.com? There are some EC'ers over there who could probably give you alot of support and offer up some experiences. GL to you and congrats!

flyer23 · May 2009

One of my friends did EC... but: 1) she didn't start until her daughter was maybe 4 or 5 months old, and 2) she still used diapers as backup, always. She just did her best to keep those diapers clean

It worked really well for her. Her daughter is the same age as mine and has been fully potty trained for months. I admit, I think about it kind of enviously when I'm cleaning up one of DD's particularly explosive poopy diapers Smile but then again, I love my sleep way too much to do the middle-of-the-night wait-for-a-pee sessions over the toilet!

Don't let others discourage you. If you want to do it, go for it! Although do understand that you can EC without going diaperless... I definitely would want something on my newborn's bottom until I learn his/her elimination signs.

Talena Johnson · May 2009

AlisaS:
One stomach flu and that will go out the window. The funniest thing is the insuation that if mothers were better moms and more in tune with their babies they wouldn't need diapers, when in fact, it is an example of a mother trying to hard too control the child.

I totally agree. There are SO many other things one could do to improve the quality of a childs life than to run around all day trying to figure out when they are going to poo.

I think you'llget frustrated and believe me when I say that babies KNOW when you're frustrated. Also, its true that cultures all over the world do this. But I've travelled all over the world (20+ contries) and most that do this, hve dirt floors and let the waste lie where it lands. So, if that's your plan . . . . more power to ya.

funchicken · May 2009

flyer23:
One of my friends did EC... but: 1) she didn't start until her daughter was maybe 4 or 5 months old, and 2) she still used diapers as backup, always. She just did her best to keep those diapers clean

It worked really well for her. Her daughter is the same age as mine and has been fully potty trained for months. I admit, I think about it kind of enviously when I'm cleaning up one of DD's particularly explosive poopy diapers but then again, I love my sleep way too much to do the middle-of-the-night wait-for-a-pee sessions over the toilet!

Don't let others discourage you. If you want to do it, go for it! Although do understand that you can EC without going diaperless... I definitely would want something on my newborn's bottom until I learn his/her elimination signs.

I think this is a really helpful response. I agree--don't let others discourage you if you really want to do it.

EnglishMajor03 · May 2009

ShinyHappyMe:

Hahahaa! This is exactly what I mean by looking at me like I have 2 heads (I can just imagine you looking at my post!). )

It's called a couple of different things: Natural Infant Hygiene, Elimination Communication (EC)...

We plan to keep baby diaperless as much as possible... and as close to one of us as much as possible. Otherwise, during sleep and carrides... baby will have a cloth diaper (and pbly when we visit people...) until we get the hang of being able to tell when baby needs to eliminate.

Many cultures use EC instead of diapers. Mothers are totally in tune with their child's need to potty. You have to figure out their 'tells' and then put them in their elimination position and make a sound to help them connect the 2 things (pottying and the sound). Most children can be out of diapers between 12 and 15 months (although I was out around 15 months even though Mom used diapers, albeit cloth diapers, with me).

A lot has changed in the history of diapering - just as in the history of birthing. A lot of kids are in diapers much, much later than 15 months now... even up to 4 and 5 years... due to society's reliance on the convenience of diapers (imo based on my research).

However, I am still interested in talking to other Moms and Dads who have tried this here in our western society and how it's worked and hasn't worked for them. But that's kinda the idea. Google it!

Certainly sounds interesting. Good luck with this program, but please remember all children are born with strengths and weaknesses. Your baby may be able to pt very quickly like your program suggests, but your child may also just not be able to do it as quickly as you want. It's a struggle I had to learn as a new mother with a child who has some special needs. You can't will your child to fit into your expectations. I hope you find some good resources out there. Good luck. I admire your panache!!

drunkenwife · May 2009

I'm going to have to side with the skeptics on this one. ?Good luck and all, but I think it's going to be sending mixed messages to your child if you're doing EC AND diapering when out in public/car/other people's houses. ?Sometimes it's okay to pee whenever and other times s/he has to wear a diaper? ?Just sounds like it'd be confusing for the kid. ?If you're going to embrace it you might think about the "all or nothing" approach. ?Again, good luck with that!

Alexandra*sMom · May 2009

A gal at MOPS did EC w/ her daughter who is now almost 2 and is NOT fully PT. She does tell her when she needs to go, but wears CD's too.

AlisaS · May 2009

ithadtobeyou:

Well, I certainly won't look at you like you have two heads, because I have gotten the same type of responses at times for not vaccinating DS.

I really admire your desire to be in tune with your baby, and I think you can also do that without going totally diaperless. I held DS as much as I possibly could for the first few months..and kept him close but let him explore as he got older. We are definitely AP parents. But the diaperless thing, as other pp's have said, I just think it would be beyond difficult with a newborn.

Don't worry though Mama Bear. You will be great, and being a mom is one of those experiences where you defintely do learn things as you go along.

Have you been on mothering.com? There are some EC'ers over there who could probably give you alot of support and offer up some experiences. GL to you and congrats!

Well actually, you are so much more of an idiot b/c you are not vaccinating. Magnitudes. The OP is simply being silly. You can kill people with your choices.

brightning · May 2009

I haven't read all of the PPs, but I believe there's a Nestie called MoroccoJade who did this with her child. She sometimes posts on the 24+ board, but I'm not sure which board she's usually on.

SportsLover · May 2009

AlisaS:
ithadtobeyou:

Well, I certainly won't look at you like you have two heads, because I have gotten the same type of responses at times for not vaccinating DS.

I really admire your desire to be in tune with your baby, and I think you can also do that without going totally diaperless. I held DS as much as I possibly could for the first few months..and kept him close but let him explore as he got older. We are definitely AP parents. But the diaperless thing, as other pp's have said, I just think it would be beyond difficult with a newborn.

Don't worry though Mama Bear. You will be great, and being a mom is one of those experiences where you defintely do learn things as you go along.

Have you been on mothering.com? There are some EC'ers over there who could probably give you alot of support and offer up some experiences. GL to you and congrats!

Well actually, you are so much more of an idiot b/c you are not vaccinating. Magnitudes. The OP is simply being silly. You can kill people with your choices.

I'm going to second this. Your child hasn't had ANY vaccinations? How is your child going to go to school? I wouldn't want my children NEAR other children without their vaccines. Isn't that like child abuse?

kbud9 · May 2009

SportsLover:
AlisaS:
ithadtobeyou:

Well, I certainly won't look at you like you have two heads, because I have gotten the same type of responses at times for not vaccinating DS.

I really admire your desire to be in tune with your baby, and I think you can also do that without going totally diaperless. I held DS as much as I possibly could for the first few months..and kept him close but let him explore as he got older. We are definitely AP parents. But the diaperless thing, as other pp's have said, I just think it would be beyond difficult with a newborn.

Don't worry though Mama Bear. You will be great, and being a mom is one of those experiences where you defintely do learn things as you go along.

Have you been on mothering.com? There are some EC'ers over there who could probably give you alot of support and offer up some experiences. GL to you and congrats!

Well actually, you are so much more of an idiot b/c you are not vaccinating. Magnitudes. The OP is simply being silly. You can kill people with your choices.

I'm going to second this. Your child hasn't had ANY vaccinations? How is your child going to go to school? I wouldn't want my children NEAR other children without their vaccines. Isn't that like child abuse?

I am also going to agree with this. This is incredibly irresponsible and dangerous. How dare you and people with your assinine beliefs put MY children at risk? Im so sick of people who have to invent new and ridiculous ways of parenting and swear that it is in the best interests of the child. There is FAR more evidence for vaccinations than against. This is not the same as choosing cloth vs disposables, bottle vs breast, etc. You are putting your child and other children at risk. And if you plan never to have your child around others, than you are going to socially deprive your child.

Seriously, why are some of you making things so extreme and complicated? Millions of people have been raised without the influence of all the attachment parenting, elimination communication, and other things that people decide to invent everyday, and have turned out wonderful. Just do me a favor and stay the hell away from Jersey with your possibly disease infested child.

Shaina · May 2009

Ditto pp. And Long Island too. It's enough swine flu is already here.

jen5-03 · May 2009

SportsLover:
AlisaS:
ithadtobeyou:

Well, I certainly won't look at you like you have two heads, because I have gotten the same type of responses at times for not vaccinating DS.

I really admire your desire to be in tune with your baby, and I think you can also do that without going totally diaperless. I held DS as much as I possibly could for the first few months..and kept him close but let him explore as he got older. We are definitely AP parents. But the diaperless thing, as other pp's have said, I just think it would be beyond difficult with a newborn.

Don't worry though Mama Bear. You will be great, and being a mom is one of those experiences where you defintely do learn things as you go along.

Have you been on mothering.com? There are some EC'ers over there who could probably give you alot of support and offer up some experiences. GL to you and congrats!

Well actually, you are so much more of an idiot b/c you are not vaccinating. Magnitudes. The OP is simply being silly. You can kill people with your choices.

I'm going to second this. Your child hasn't had ANY vaccinations? How is your child going to go to school? I wouldn't want my children NEAR other children without their vaccines. Isn't that like child abuse?

OMG. People. Yes, of course there are lots of people who choose not to vaccinate. There always have been due to eligious reasons, medical reasons, lack of medical acces and yes, due to irrational fears. Vaccines are not a legal requirement. In most states you do not have to get vaccinated to attend school, you just have to fill out a form that says you're not vaccinated.

But here's the best part... YOUR kid is vaccinated, right? Then YOUR kid is SAFE from whatever other people don't vax against. So why does this bother you so much? Talk about irrational fears.

jen5-03 · May 2009

I don't think EC is crazy, though I never did it with a small baby. We basically started doing something similar when DD was just over a year, mostly catching her pooping and putting her on the potty. She's daytime PT'd now and not quite 2yr.

One thing to consider... with my DD, when she was a newborn, she pooped *while* she was nursing. Every.time.she.nursed. So it would not have been at all possible to try EC with my DD until at least 3mo old.

samanthony · May 2009

wow. I'm speechless. Let me know how it works out for ya! Lol

AlisaS · May 2009

jen5/03:
SportsLover:
AlisaS:
ithadtobeyou:

Well, I certainly won't look at you like you have two heads, because I have gotten the same type of responses at times for not vaccinating DS.

I really admire your desire to be in tune with your baby, and I think you can also do that without going totally diaperless. I held DS as much as I possibly could for the first few months..and kept him close but let him explore as he got older. We are definitely AP parents. But the diaperless thing, as other pp's have said, I just think it would be beyond difficult with a newborn.

Don't worry though Mama Bear. You will be great, and being a mom is one of those experiences where you defintely do learn things as you go along.

Have you been on mothering.com? There are some EC'ers over there who could probably give you alot of support and offer up some experiences. GL to you and congrats!

Well actually, you are so much more of an idiot b/c you are not vaccinating. Magnitudes. The OP is simply being silly. You can kill people with your choices.

I'm going to second this. Your child hasn't had ANY vaccinations? How is your child going to go to school? I wouldn't want my children NEAR other children without their vaccines. Isn't that like child abuse?

OMG. People. Yes, of course there are lots of people who choose not to vaccinate. There always have been due to eligious reasons, medical reasons, lack of medical acces and yes, due to irrational fears. Vaccines are not a legal requirement. In most states you do not have to get vaccinated to attend school, you just have to fill out a form that says you're not vaccinated.

But here's the best part... YOUR kid is vaccinated, right? Then YOUR kid is SAFE from whatever other people don't vax against. So why does this bother you so much? Talk about irrational fears.

Ahem, it's called herd immunity. Look in to it. Are you an educated person at all? It is pathetic when people post something like this and don't realize how dumb it makes them look.

ithadtobeyou · May 2009

WOW. For the record, if your child is vaccinated and in that case fully protected, how is MY unvaccinated child going to hurt your child?

My child is not going to infect your child, because if my child did get sick,for one thing I would keep him at home. I am very attentive to any signs of illness. He doesn't go to daycare, since I am a SAHM anyway. He is very healthy, much healthier actually than my friends kids who are vaccinated.

I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DECIDE IF I WANT MY CHILD TO BE VACCINATED OR NOT. So do you. And I respect your decision to do so. I just feel it is not right for my family.. I think it is unfair for you to call me an idiot. I researched very carefully and did not make this decision lightly. I would never call someone a name because they chose to vaccinate their child, not diaper their child, etc. It certainly is not child abuse.

Sorry OP, that your post got highjacked because I stated I do not vax my child.

Chetney090608 · May 2009

i dont think no dipar is an option for me...and as the vax thing goes i would think if your kid is vaxed then who cares if her kid is by yours???this just seems odd to me...kids are going to get sick regardless...

kbud9 · May 2009

To those who responded above. There is always a chance that if a child has not had a particular vaccination yet then yes, the disease can be spread. Forget about other children for a moment and think about your own child. Why would you put your child at any kind of risk like this??

Again, this is not the same as the OP or others who make decisions to do certain things. This one is irresponsible and you are not going to convince me or most people otherwise.

kbud9 · May 2009

Also,

"Being in tune to any signs of illness" is not always going to help because very often the contagious state begins before any symptoms are shown.

funchicken · May 2009

ithadtobeyou:
WOW. For the record, if your child is vaccinated and in that case fully protected, how is MY unvaccinated child going to hurt your child?

My child is not going to infect your child, because if my child did get sick,for one thing I would keep him at home. I am very attentive to any signs of illness. He doesn't go to daycare, since I am a SAHM anyway. He is very healthy, much healthier actually than my friends kids who are vaccinated.

I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DECIDE IF I WANT MY CHILD TO BE VACCINATED OR NOT. So do you. And I respect your decision to do so. I just feel it is not right for my family.. I think it is unfair for you to call me an idiot. I researched very carefully and did not make this decision lightly. I would never call someone a name because they chose to vaccinate their child, not diaper their child, etc. It certainly is not child abuse.

Sorry OP, that your post got highjacked because I stated I do not vax my child.

I'm sorry that you were attacked by other posters, but there are risks to others ( even vaccinated children) if you choose not to vaccinate your child. You have a right to decide, but please be aware of that.

AlisaS · May 2009

mrszee2b:
ithadtobeyou:

WOW. For the record, if your child is vaccinated and in that case fully protected, how is MY unvaccinated child going to hurt your child?

My child is not going to infect your child, because if my child did get sick,for one thing I would keep him at home. I am very attentive to any signs of illness. He doesn't go to daycare, since I am a SAHM anyway. He is very healthy, much healthier actually than my friends kids who are vaccinated.

I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DECIDE IF I WANT MY CHILD TO BE VACCINATED OR NOT. So do you. And I respect your decision to do so. I just feel it is not right for my family.. I think it is unfair for you to call me an idiot. I researched very carefully and did not make this decision lightly. I would never call someone a name because they chose to vaccinate their child, not diaper their child, etc. It certainly is not child abuse.

Sorry OP, that your post got highjacked because I stated I do not vax my child.

I'm sorry that you were attacked by other posters, but there are risks to others ( even vaccinated children) if you choose not to vaccinate your child. You have a right to decide, but please be aware of that.

Yours is a choice that can kill people. If you don't understand that, you are an idiot. Yep, that's right. An idiot. All your "research" simply reveals you to be stupid, unable to separate fact from fiction, irrational, irresponsible, and a bit nuts as well.

I have no need to give you ANY respect as you are contributing to increasing rates of disease, etc. in this country and putting many people at risk.

Shame on you.

Andrewsgal · May 2009

jen5/03:
SportsLover:
AlisaS:
ithadtobeyou:

Well, I certainly won't look at you like you have two heads, because I have gotten the same type of responses at times for not vaccinating DS.

I really admire your desire to be in tune with your baby, and I think you can also do that without going totally diaperless. I held DS as much as I possibly could for the first few months..and kept him close but let him explore as he got older. We are definitely AP parents. But the diaperless thing, as other pp's have said, I just think it would be beyond difficult with a newborn.

Don't worry though Mama Bear. You will be great, and being a mom is one of those experiences where you defintely do learn things as you go along.

Have you been on mothering.com? There are some EC'ers over there who could probably give you alot of support and offer up some experiences. GL to you and congrats!

Well actually, you are so much more of an idiot b/c you are not vaccinating. Magnitudes. The OP is simply being silly. You can kill people with your choices.

I'm going to second this. Your child hasn't had ANY vaccinations? How is your child going to go to school? I wouldn't want my children NEAR other children without their vaccines. Isn't that like child abuse?

OMG. People. Yes, of course there are lots of people who choose not to vaccinate. There always have been due to eligious reasons, medical reasons, lack of medical acces and yes, due to irrational fears. Vaccines are not a legal requirement. In most states you do not have to get vaccinated to attend school, you just have to fill out a form that says you're not vaccinated.

But here's the best part... YOUR kid is vaccinated, right? Then YOUR kid is SAFE from whatever other people don't vax against. So why does this bother you so much? Talk about irrational fears.

Yes my 2.5 year old is safe, but my 5 month old who is too young to be vaccinated for certian things is not so her choice does effect my child!

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