One Mother

Kitiara5512

HilarityEnsued:

TunaTown:

EllaHella:

TunaTown:

I just want the board to get back to where it was last summer. I've stayed away because it's been so weird.  

Well, her multiple personalities go back to at least 2009 or 2010.  So my lack of niceness to her isn't ruining the board. 

Didn't she clear things up by showing up for the Atlanta GTG?

You don't *have* to be nice. But don't tell her she sucks.

Can't we all just get along? 

Seriously?  You show up basically... never... and then come on here telling people how to act to one another while fully admitting you have no clue about past history?  

To answer your question, no, we just can't all get along.  I have a hard time believe you are as ignorant to the vibe here as you claim.  

Dude, way harsh there. This weird vibe is the reason she hasn't been on, plus she had stuff going on this spring so its kinda a-holish when she used to be a pretty reg poster until a few months ago. All she is saying is that it behooves us to be civil to each other, even if we dont wanna be bffs. FFS.

Kitiara5512

fredalina:

Mods having IP addresses isn't the problem. Mods SHARING IP addresses or info they can get from IP addresses with non mods would be a problem. If OM actually saw the IPs and did the investigation herself and posted what she did, non issue for me. If a mod saw them, copied them or something and shared them with OM and possibly others and OM posted what she did to take the heat, well I have no issue with OM but DO have an issue with the mod. A big issue.

Its my understanding that the IP addresses were viewable by all, not just mods, for a very short time yesterday morning.

thisplaceisstupid

everyone's so pissy.

you guys should really work on your attitudes...

LuckyDad

kiraliz2:

LuckyDad:

I think this came up yesterday somewhere.

Non-bump/Nest employees should not have access to IPs. This includes volunteer moderators, even BostonKisses, who I would personally send all my IPs to.

It's actually a pretty serious violation of internet privacy principles I'm still processing. I'm also waiting for a serious statement from BJ or other Admin. 

Eh. If mods have banning capabilities then it's pretty common.

I guess I am used to Reddit, where only admins can site ban.

J+MS

kiraliz2:

Plus you can change your IP address.

and some have dynamic IPs. They change every time you get on the internet.

J+MS

Scout2005:

J+MS:

kiraliz2:

Plus you can change your IP address.

and some have dynamic IPs. They change every time you get on the internet.

Exactly. These aren't necessarily homing beacons.

See, TPIS, everybody know, nobody care.

MJHershey

GrayGhost13:

I'm curious if the Bump Godz are going to respond to any of this.

I would not hold my breath, they are too busy thinking up new contests and  ways to suck up to Pampers. 

MoonlitPlumeria

LuckyDad:

I think this came up yesterday somewhere.

Non-bump/Nest employees should not have access to IPs. This includes volunteer moderators, even BostonKisses, who I would personally send all my IPs to.

It's actually a pretty serious violation of internet privacy principles I'm still processing. I'm also waiting for a serious statement from BJ or other Admin. 

This is true. And I agree with it all , especially the bolded part. But my husband is a computer programmer who has also been the victim of identity theft and is more paranoid than most. He says that IP addresses being public isn't something that we should be blase about but it's also not something that we should completely flip out over either. Our IP address isn't exactly private. It gets sent out every time we get on the internet. Every website that we go to can see it. There are people with sniffers who can see it as well. If you are going to completely flip out over this, then you should probably just stay off the internet. 

I also take a bit offense to the IT techs being called out for not being concerned. I'm sure that they are really concerned. It's their jobs on the line. No one wants a security breach like that, but mistakes happen. The Bump didn't leave it when the mistake was caught. They shut it down quickly. Let's have a bit of perspective here. 

Kitiara5512

justbeachy109:

That is how it is for other boards I am on as well.

Yeah, some people think it is no big deal, but this information has been used maliciously in the past (calling their work, CPS, relatives, etc.) and it will happen again. You can't have that many people who have access to these things and not have someone's privacy invaded.

 

If this was something that was going to be available all the time, then I would totally have an issue.

I do agree that IPs need to be limited to some mods or admins, not because Sookie or Wordsy would ever fluck any of us over, but because some people wind up with crazy cakes moderating their boards, like a couple of other boards have had in relation to malicious AEs or bffs with a sexual predator.

Wine O Mite

MoonlitPlumeria

justbeachy109:

Scout2005:

justbeachy109:

Someone tell me how to change my IP so my workplace isn't on it then.

Don't Bump from work. I'm not trying to be a snatch, but if that is a major concern to you, you take a risk signing onto a public forum from work.

I am allowed to use internet at work and wouldn't get into trouble. I was just curious how to change it if I wanted to.

You could look into using an anonymous proxy server. 

ETA: Or again, use mobile web. Every time you connect to the internet via your phone, you get a new IP address. 

Luckie519

thisplaceisstupid:

seeing IPs- who cares?

posting IPs- only dumb sluts do that. (hi JMS!)

I must have missed this - I miss everything.  She did this?  And when?  No wonder she isn't around anymore.

MoonlitPlumeria

kiraliz2:

MoonlitPlumeria:

justbeachy109:

Scout2005:

justbeachy109:

Someone tell me how to change my IP so my workplace isn't on it then.

Don't Bump from work. I'm not trying to be a snatch, but if that is a major concern to you, you take a risk signing onto a public forum from work.

I am allowed to use internet at work and wouldn't get into trouble. I was just curious how to change it if I wanted to.

You could look into using an anonymous proxy server. 

ETA: Or again, use mobile web. Every time you connect to the internet via your phone, you get a new IP address. 

Don't those cost money?

There are some semi reputable ones that you can use, but DH says that he wouldn't trust just any site. Definitely don't trust ones associated with porn! But we don't have much experience with them because we've never used them. We have a "semi-dynamic" IP address. It's technically dynamic, but rarely changes because we're always connected. 

You could also use a VPN but that's more complicated and you have to have a VPN setup. 

 

GrayGhost13

MoonlitPlumeria:

I also take a bit offense to the IT techs being called out for not being concerned. I'm sure that they are really concerned. It's their jobs on the line. No one wants a security breach like that, but mistakes happen. The Bump didn't leave it when the mistake was caught. They shut it down quickly. Let's have a bit of perspective here. 

They may have gotten it right on the IT side, but they are messing it up on the PR side. It's already been almost a day since the security lapse and god knows how many threads discussing it, and no one has responded to it yet. Poor PR, IMO, especially with all the claims that they are taking community management more seriously now.

Also bad since it directly contradicts what they have been telling us for years that they can't identify individual users' IP addresses, which I've thought was BS for a long time. I'd like to see if they're going to be honest with us now.

Runaway22

HilarityEnsued:

People who are being la-di-da about the sharing of IP addresses are missing the point.

I'm not flaming OM in this process.  I don't think I would have behaved any different if presented with a battery of information on people that were e-snatches to me.  

The point is much larger than yesterday's post.  IDGAF about outing trolls.  But I also don't give an eff about calling the situation a slippery slope if mods just have access to IP addresses.

I have to agree with you, HE. 

GrayGhost13

Onederful Mother:

Okay, but mods have always had access to IPs you guys. They have been able to see them every single time you PM'd one of them for years.

Then why did TB tell us they couldn't block IPs?

LuckyDad

Onederful Mother:

Okay, but mods have always had access to IPs you guys. They have been able to see them every single time you PM'd one of them for years.

This is news to me, and not something I'd consider a good thing.

Truth be told, I hate the volunteer mod model. It's a cheap, cost saving technique. I much prefer Community Managers like Blizzard has.

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thisplaceisstupid

J+MS:

See, TPIS, everybody know, nobody care.

and yet this thread is a million pages long. getting smarter by the day!

GrayGhost13

LuckyDad:

Onederful Mother:

Okay, but mods have always had access to IPs you guys. They have been able to see them every single time you PM'd one of them for years.

This is news to me, and not something I'd consider a good thing.

Truth be told, I hate the volunteer mod model. It's a cheap, cost saving technique. I much prefer Community Managers like Blizzard has.

I think it comes down to the fact that XOGroup sees itself as a media/ad sales business, not a social network. They've always run the forums on the cheap and treated them like a second class division.

thisplaceisstupid

Luckie519:

thisplaceisstupid:

seeing IPs- who cares?

posting IPs- only dumb sluts do that. (hi JMS!)

I must have missed this - I miss everything.  She did this?  And when?  No wonder she isn't around anymore.

it was at least a year ago. shes prob not around anymore b/c she sucks at life. 

eta: wait, let me be nice...she just sucks at being a mod and a poster. 

Kitiara5512

Onederful Mother:

GrayGhost13:

Onederful Mother:

Okay, but mods have always had access to IPs you guys. They have been able to see them every single time you PM'd one of them for years.

Then why did TB tell us they couldn't block IPs?

I don't really know, honestly. I had always heard that they knew how to IP ban and were supposedly IP banning people, but essentially those people just came right back. So I don't know if they were too lazy or too uninformed. 

Because of IPs being changeable, and roaming, and that it is possible for multiple people in an area to share an IP, they may have been able to see IPs but not able to ban based on IP due to it banning other people not affiliated with the AE perpetrators.

GrayGhost13

BTWs, I don't know why I'm getting so p!ssy/venty about this today. I guess it's just six years of frustration with TK/TN/TB's inept community management all venting out in one thread. 

MoonlitPlumeria

GrayGhost13:

Onederful Mother:

Okay, but mods have always had access to IPs you guys. They have been able to see them every single time you PM'd one of them for years.

Then why did TB tell us they couldn't block IPs?

Because most people have dynamic IP addresses, IP banning doesn't work. They would have to ban ranges of IP addresses to do that and they risk cutting off other nearby members who may end up with that IP address at some point. 

LuckyDad

GrayGhost13:

LuckyDad:

Onederful Mother:

Okay, but mods have always had access to IPs you guys. They have been able to see them every single time you PM'd one of them for years.

This is news to me, and not something I'd consider a good thing.

Truth be told, I hate the volunteer mod model. It's a cheap, cost saving technique. I much prefer Community Managers like Blizzard has.

I think it comes down to the fact that XOGroup sees itself as a media/ad sales business, not a social network. They've always run the forums on the cheap and treated them like a second class division.

Oh, definitely. TheKnot is their moneymaker. I have friends and relatives who work in the Wedding Industrial Complex, and advertising on TheKnot is not cheap at all.

TheBump is the second tier forum of the second class division. 

GrayGhost13

HilarityEnsued:

LuckyDad:

TheBump is the second tier forum of the second class division. 

No skittles for TheBump.

LOL

robinsokj

I totally P&Red here, but fred pretty much said what my mind was thinking

NotSharknado

OM, do not feel any regrets. Please. You did a good thing.

People have a right to know who the aholes are. I'd consider you opening people's eyes, if anything.

izzourclue

GIFSoup

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mbenit4:

fredalina:

What I would like is a simple statement that no one who saw actual IP addresses, whether they "should" have seen them, such as a mod, or saw them erroneously, such as OM, shared said addresses or direct info that could be gleaned from them like cities, workplaces, etc. if OM saw them or a mod isn't the issue, and from what OM posted it looks like she did nothing wrong, but if a person, mod or not, is sharing identifiable info about anyone via off board or email or whatever, that IS a problem. The info OM shared is fine. I have no issue with the sharing of overlapping screen names. But sharing IP addresses, which are potentially identifiable, would be a problem. I would like assurance that didn't happen. And I can't make a concise sentence to save my life.

This is what I was trying to say.

I just wanted to know - did a small group or one person see them OR was it truly exposed for all to see?

I don't see the problem in asking. I mean there is no background check or great process in becoming a mod and we have had wackos be mods.

I have no issue with what OM did.

I can't speak for the other groups, but the Parenting FB group of which I am a member absolutely did not see IP addresses or any identifying information about any AEs revealed through the glitch.  All we were told was that the IP addresses of specific AEs matched IP addresses of specific posters.  That's it.  And everything we know was revealed in the thread yesterday.  No one is holding any secret special information in that group.  We know what you know.