October 2013 Moms

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  • imagekaro112:
    imagekimbo1216:
    imagekaro112:

    imagemmgkms:
    I'm sure I'll end up getting flamed for this but, I think it's creepy when a child is able to verbalize that he or she wants to breast feed, and then gets it. That's weird to me. If you're old enough to ask for it, you shouldnt be getting it. Flame away

    Totally agree.

     

    May I ask why?  Why does being old enough to ask for it mean they shouldn't be getting it?  When DD was 1, she could ask for it.  Does that really mean she's too old?  Makes zero sense, and I think it's a silly concern to have.

    I don't know where the line should be, but frankly it doesn't matter what I think.  That's for each individual family to decide.

    I don't mean you're one and you can sort of say milk or eat or food...or you know sign language. I mean when you have a full mouth of teeth and can eat solid food and say , "Mommy, I want milk please."

    I knew a kid who would say "Titty mommy" and that was the sign he wanted to BF. I think he was 3.

     

     

    This exactly. There's a big difference between saying "chi-chi! chi-chi!" and having a kid who wipes their own butt and can draw a stick figure asking to hang out on your boob.

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  • imagemweav1025:
    I completely hate that they make bikinis for little kids.  Sorry but I don't want my toddler in a bikini. 

    Adding this to my list of MPOTGDW Stick out tongue

  • I hate makeup. I think women who take more than 5 mins to throw a quick dab on their faces are vain or ugly and can't admit their ugliness. Only exception is if it involves your job, for example if you are an actress, model or work in the beauty industry.
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  • imageNRyan55:

    First page what whaaat!!!

    It is my opinion that fibromyalgia is not a real disease.

    Again, it is my opinion that it is a fabrication and a product of our hypochondriac society and lazy medical system.

    I am not denying that some  of those patients are in real pain, but I think it would serve them better to weed out the actually ill ones and diagnose them instead of just pumping them full of lyrica and making them feel better.

    i could educate you on this diagnosis, but I don't think I care enough; fibromyalgia is a real neurological disorder, AND the patient population are a bunch of whiners and over-reactors. I'll give you that. ::mobile smiley::


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  • imageNRyan55:

    Catching up, sorry for not quoting.

    @batmandi, I couldn't disagree more with your reasoning on curse words in music.  I do not think that kids understand their boundaries of when to use the words and when not to.  If you are a parent of a child who curses at home I would bet you 1 bazillion dollars that they curse outside of your home.  If you do not think that is inappropriate then that's fine, but that is a no no in my house so the behavior will be corrected.

    This also means that H and I try our hardest not to curse at home.  Naturally it slips every now and then, but kids are parrots and they do not understand the reasoning of "those are words that only mommy and daddy use".

     

    That's where we differ, I don't think curse words are that taboo. Every adult I know says them, some more often that others. The key in my opinion is to teach your child when it's appropriate to use that kind of language (at home, hanging out with friends) and when it's absolutely not (at school, church if you go, grocery store, any public place where it's just not neccessary and tacky.)

     

    I cursed at home and while hanging out with friends by the time I was a teenager for sure, every kid is cursing by the time they're in high school when they're out, no matter what their parents think. My thing is, if I don't make it a taboo, then they will (hopefully) learn that using that language is not something you do everywhere. I have a very sensitive "bad word" sensor, and I would never use bad words in front of other peoples children, old people, employers, coworkers, or anyone I respect who doesn't know me well enough to know that I'm not complete trailer trash who says whatever whenever and doesn't give a fluck. But, when I'm with friends and my parents, I can rival any sailor. For me, it's all about teaching that there are acceptable times and unacceptable times.

  • imagebatmandi:
    imagekaro112:
    I don't mean you're one and you can sort of say milk or eat or food...or you know sign language. I mean when you have a full mouth of teeth and can eat solid food and say , "Mommy, I want milk please."

    I knew a kid who would say "Titty mommy" and that was the sign he wanted to BF. I think he was 3.

     This exactly. There's a big difference between saying "chi-chi! chi-chi!" and having a kid who wipes their own butt and can draw a stick figure asking to hang out on your boob.

    Again though. I ask why.  Why is this something you feel the need to judge.  So it's not for you.  Fine.  But I don't see anything wrong with a 3 year old nursing.  If it works for their family, then that's all that matters.

    As I mentioned, Idk where the cut-off is, but the only cut-off I need to be concerned with is my own.

  • imagedknight413:

    imageWino0920:
    Never said everyone wants to live here, but ok. And how come you can be patriotic about Switzerland but Americans are arrogant if they are patriotic? Hmm? ETA: reading fail, I realize that you are not the one that said arrogant. But I bet no one will care that you said Switzerland was awesome. You just can't say America is!!

    Haha, yeah that wasn't me. And I'm not that patriotic about Switzerland really. I just like the chocolate. I am way more patriotic about the UK...so much so that when I go to baseball games over here I sometimes, very quietly, sing the words to God Save The Queen instead of My Country Tis of Thee. (Come on though. You stole our blooming national anthem and then just changed the words!)

    Also, just as a side note, I'm sure some people do move here to live the American Dream, but that was certainly not the case for us. We moved here because your government offered my husband a sh!teload of money to audit the company that was partially responsible for your Great Recession. We don't all hop over a barbed wire fence in some remote desert region to get here. 

    My grandparents emigrated from Switzerland to the US. My mom now runs their family watch and jewelry findings business. She has to deal with the Swiss a lot, which she says is a huge PITA and that in the business world, women are still somewhat looked down on. Which makes sense when you consider that women didn't get the right to vote in Switzerland until 1971. Other than that, though, I tend to think of it as a pretty swell place to live.

    I do think that the mantra that 'America is the greatest country in the world' is a touch delusional. There are lots of great places to live, and there is always room for improvement.  

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  • imageNRyan55:
    In other news, the way my daughter says "truck" sounds exactly like "f*uck"

    When DD says truck, it sounds a lot like c-ock.  And she loves to point out big trucks. So when she does, it sounds like "look at dat big c-ock!" lol  We know we shouldn't, but we can't help but laugh!

    ETA:  I know *** is not spelled that way, but TB sensors stars it out if I spell it right.

    ETA2: Apparently if you spell c-o-c-k as c-a-w-k, that gets starred out too.  Come on TB.  We are all big girls.  Is that really necessary?

  • imagekimbo1216:
    imagebatmandi:
    imagekaro112:
    I don't mean you're one and you can sort of say milk or eat or food...or you know sign language. I mean when you have a full mouth of teeth and can eat solid food and say , "Mommy, I want milk please."

    I knew a kid who would say "Titty mommy" and that was the sign he wanted to BF. I think he was 3.

     This exactly. There's a big difference between saying "chi-chi! chi-chi!" and having a kid who wipes their own butt and can draw a stick figure asking to hang out on your boob.

    Again though. I ask why.  Why is this something you feel the need to judge.  So it's not for you.  Fine.  But I don't see anything wrong with a 3 year old nursing.  If it works for their family, then that's all that matters.

    As I mentioned, Idk where the cut-off is, but the only cut-off I need to be concerned with is my own.



    To be fair Kimbo, that's the whole point of an opinion. We could say that about every post. Why do you care what someone else is wearing? Why do you care when someone else's kid gives up the paci? Why do you care what Taylor writes about?

    We wouldn't have an OU thread then.
  • imageNRyan55:
    LOL! it still censored it, but I believe you are trying to say male chicken?

    Yes.  I had to do 2 edits to get my point across. lol

  • Oh.  And I cannot wait to take a pic of my adorable DD in her 4th of July bikini and post it here.  I may even make a siggy pic.  Stick out tongue

    You may prefer one pieces, but they are seriously a pain when you have a diapered baby.  And snappy one pieces are hard to find.

    ETA:  A sneak.  My DD will probably look far too sexy with her swim diaper sticking out and her little belly popping out, but it's  a risk I'm willing to take.  Wink

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  • I agree with this.  I never wear make up.  I barely wore make up on my wedding day.  I just don't feel the need to use it.  When I reached high school my mom gave me mascara and told me that was the only make I would ever need to wear.  Turns out I am allergic to mascara and cannot wear it anyway, so I go sans make up and find no problem with that.

    ETA: meant to quote the UO about make up but apparently it didn't. 

  • imagekimbo1216:
    imagebatmandi:
    imagekaro112:
    I don't mean you're one and you can sort of say milk or eat or food...or you know sign language. I mean when you have a full mouth of teeth and can eat solid food and say , "Mommy, I want milk please."

    I knew a kid who would say "Titty mommy" and that was the sign he wanted to BF. I think he was 3.

     This exactly. There's a big difference between saying "chi-chi! chi-chi!" and having a kid who wipes their own butt and can draw a stick figure asking to hang out on your boob.

    Again though. I ask why.  Why is this something you feel the need to judge.  So it's not for you.  Fine.  But I don't see anything wrong with a 3 year old nursing.  If it works for their family, then that's all that matters.

    As I mentioned, Idk where the cut-off is, but the only cut-off I need to be concerned with is my own.

     

    To me, it just seems excessive, unnecessary, and frankly, wrong. Babies start eating solid foods for a reason, because they are preparing themselves for when they do not need breast milk anymore. To see a child who SHOULD be eating solid foods and learning how to master a cup breastfeeding or bottle feeding is letting the child be the "boss", and not forcing them to deal with the developmental milestones that they should have reached by that time. If you side eye a kid using a bottle instead of a cup, then that kid should also not be breastfeeding. I feel that breast feeding for so long could also lead to attachments that could be detrimental to the child and the parent, but before you ask, no, I don't have any proof or research on that, it's just the way I feel.

     

    Breastfeeding provides nourishment, but so do solid foods, in different ways. If you are continuing to breastfeed past 18 months (in my opinion) your child is either not getting the nutrients they need for proper growth by supplementing BF for a meal, or they are getting too many calories daily by adding BF in addition to their meals. Either way it's just not right.

  • imagedknight413:
    Further along the line of clothing, I'm very annoyed that baby clothes for girls are, in general, associated with the color pink. Maybe I am biased because I hate the color pink myself, but come on. There are so many other wonderful colors out there. Why pink? 

    Agreed! I am having such a hard time finding baby girl clothes that I like!  

  • imagekimbo1216:

    Oh.  And I cannot wait to take a pic of my adorable DD in her 4th of July bikini and post it here.  I may even make a siggy pic.  Stick out tongue

    You may prefer one pieces, but they are seriously a pain when you have a diapered baby.  And snappy one pieces are hard to find.

    ETA:  A sneak.  My DD will probably look far too sexy with her swim diaper sticking out and her little belly popping out, but it's  a risk I'm willing to take.  Wink

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    My other UO: I think babies in bikinis like the one you just posted are ADORABLE. (But I agree there is a line between cute, baby bikini, and putting a square of fabric the size of a saltine cracker on a baby)

  • imagebatmandi:
    To me, it just seems excessive, unnecessary, and frankly, wrong. Babies start eating solid foods for a reason...

    Extended BFing =/= not eating solids.  You are judging something simply because it's not your style.  Just because it's not for you does not mean it's wrong.  I guess I just think that's strong word choice.  From what I understand, most extended BF'ers don't nurse all that often.  Maybe once or twice a day. 

    But I'm done on this subject.  I just get annoyed at judging things that aren't hurting you or anyone else.  There are far more serious things imo.

  • imageWino0920:
    imagekimbo1216:
    imagebatmandi:
    imagekaro112:
    I don't mean you're one and you can sort of say milk or eat or food...or you know sign language. I mean when you have a full mouth of teeth and can eat solid food and say , "Mommy, I want milk please."

    I knew a kid who would say "Titty mommy" and that was the sign he wanted to BF. I think he was 3.

     This exactly. There's a big difference between saying "chi-chi! chi-chi!" and having a kid who wipes their own butt and can draw a stick figure asking to hang out on your boob.

    Again though. I ask why.  Why is this something you feel the need to judge.  So it's not for you.  Fine.  But I don't see anything wrong with a 3 year old nursing.  If it works for their family, then that's all that matters.

    As I mentioned, Idk where the cut-off is, but the only cut-off I need to be concerned with is my own.

    To be fair Kimbo, that's the whole point of an opinion. We could say that about every post. Why do you care what someone else is wearing? Why do you care when someone else's kid gives up the paci? Why do you care what Taylor writes about? We wouldn't have an OU thread then.

    Exactly. No one's UO is hurting anyone.  

  • imagekaro112:
    To me, it just seems excessive, unnecessary, and frankly, wrong. Babies start eating solid foods for a reason, because they are preparing themselves for when they do not need breast milk anymore. To see a child who SHOULD be eating solid foods and learning how to master a cup breastfeeding or bottle feeding is letting the child be the "boss", and not forcing them to deal with the developmental milestones that they should have reached by that time. If you side eye a kid using a bottle instead of a cup, then that kid should also not be breastfeeding. I feel that breast feeding for so long could also lead to attachments that could be detrimental to the child and the parent, but before you ask, no, I don't have any proof or research on that, it's just the way I feel.

     

    Breastfeeding provides nourishment, but so do solid foods, in different ways. If you are continuing to breastfeed past 18 months (in my opinion) your child is either not getting the nutrients they need for proper growth by supplementing BF for a meal, or they are getting too many calories daily by adding BF in addition to their meals. Either way it's just not right.

    That is so factually incorrect my head is spinning. I don't even know where to start, so I'll just giggle at the ignorance instead.

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  • imagesleepy33:
    imagedknight413:

    imageWino0920:
    Never said everyone wants to live here, but ok. And how come you can be patriotic about Switzerland but Americans are arrogant if they are patriotic? Hmm? ETA: reading fail, I realize that you are not the one that said arrogant. But I bet no one will care that you said Switzerland was awesome. You just can't say America is!!

    Haha, yeah that wasn't me. And I'm not that patriotic about Switzerland really. I just like the chocolate. I am way more patriotic about the UK...so much so that when I go to baseball games over here I sometimes, very quietly, sing the words to God Save The Queen instead of My Country Tis of Thee. (Come on though. You stole our blooming national anthem and then just changed the words!)

    Also, just as a side note, I'm sure some people do move here to live the American Dream, but that was certainly not the case for us. We moved here because your government offered my husband a sh!teload of money to audit the company that was partially responsible for your Great Recession. We don't all hop over a barbed wire fence in some remote desert region to get here. 

    My grandparents emigrated from Switzerland to the US. My mom now runs their family watch and jewelry findings business. She has to deal with the Swiss a lot, which she says is a huge PITA and that in the business world, women are still somewhat looked down on. Which makes sense when you consider that women didn't get the right to vote in Switzerland until 1971. Other than that, though, I tend to think of it as a pretty swell place to live.

    I do think that the mantra that 'America is the greatest country in the world' is a touch delusional. There are lots of great places to live, and there is always room for improvement.  

    The original comment was that every culture can learn from every culture. The Swiss, the Greek, the Japanese, and, yes, even the Americans. Saying so doesn't mean anything about someone's "patriotism" and "loyality" 

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    imagelaurenmdrn16:

    there is nothing you love more than a good yahoo article :) do you work for yahoo???

    ps. I agree with the article but that isn't brand new information!

    Seriously, it is a horrible addiction. At work, I always have my work email, electronic documentation software, and yahoo open. Now, I have 2 tabs (one for TB and one for yahoo). I should enter like a 12 step because it does get out of control sometimes!


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  • i only actually read page 1, and skimmed page 2, but i think people who don't "get" big bang theory probably just don't have a high enough IQ to get the jokes. this is true at least amongst my circle of friends in "real life".


  • imagentrick:
    imagesleepy33:

    My grandparents emigrated from Switzerland to the US. My mom now runs their family watch and jewelry findings business. She has to deal with the Swiss a lot, which she says is a huge PITA and that in the business world, women are still somewhat looked down on. Which makes sense when you consider that women didn't get the right to vote in Switzerland until 1971. Other than that, though, I tend to think of it as a pretty swell place to live.

    I do think that the mantra that 'America is the greatest country in the world' is a touch delusional. There are lots of great places to live, and there is always room for improvement.  

    The original comment was that every culture can learn from every culture. The Swiss, the Greek, the Japanese, and, yes, even the Americans. Saying so doesn't mean anything about someone's "patriotism" and "loyality" 

    Is that somehow different than what I said? Sorry, I genuinely can't tell if your disagreeing with me or what. Smile

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  • imagedknight413:
    imagesleepy33:

    My grandparents emigrated from Switzerland to the US. My mom now runs their family watch and jewelry findings business. She has to deal with the Swiss a lot, which she says is a huge PITA and that in the business world, women are still somewhat looked down on. Which makes sense when you consider that women didn't get the right to vote in Switzerland until 1971. Other than that, though, I tend to think of it as a pretty swell place to live.

    I do think that the mantra that 'America is the greatest country in the world' is a touch delusional. There are lots of great places to live, and there is always room for improvement.  

    I'd be looking for any excuse to go on a business trip if I was your mother. That is interesting about gender inequality. I have a friend (woman) who lives and works there but she has never mentioned feeling that way. She has a pretty senior position at a bank as well. It wouldn't surprise me though. It is very close to Italy after all which is probably the most sexists (non-muslim) country I have ever visited (I have some good stories from an American friend who works in Milan if you ever wanted to be entertained/shocked). I guess I'll just have to move there for a few years so I can find out for myself :p 

    I should quickly edit this to add just because a country is predominantly Muslim, does not automatically mean everyone in that country is sexist. 

    Heh, they went there on their honeymoon, and I know she thinks the country itself is beautiful, but she'd never want to go there and actually have to deal with her business associates in person. It could also be because it's sort of an antiquated industry as well, sort of 'frozen in time', lots of crochety old watchmakers and suppliers who are like, "You'll get it whenever it's ready and we don't know when that will be, but we are the only ones who make this widget so you'll take it and be grateful." And they always want to deal with my grandpa, who is like 95 and not really involved with the business anymore. 

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  • imagebeccaleap:
    imageWino0920:
    To be fair Kimbo, that's the whole point of an opinion.

    Exactly. No one's UO is hurting anyone.  

    Actually.  I disagree.  Some UOs do hurt people and those are the ones that bother me.  I prefer more light-hearted UOs.  Sometimes I have a more serious one myself, but for the most part, I try to keep it light.  But I can't stand UOs that attack a group of people.  When a UO goes beyond basic dislike/disagreement of a topic and explains why it's wrong or bad, then yes, that can hurt.  So to say it's not hurting anyone is incorrect.

    And to me, the point of a UO is to make a statement about a topic where your opinion goes against the masses.  It's not to put down a group or attack.

    The OP of the extended BF opinion didn't just say that she disagrees with extended BF (which let's be honest, is not really all that unpopular considering actually BFing statistics).  She went on to explain why she thought it was so terrible.  I simply asked why.  It's not FFF, and I didn't even flame.   I simply didn't understand.

  • Big Bang Theory isn't about being a science major, as much as nerd culture. I love it. It's my favorite show. I couldn't care less if someone doesn't like it, since not everyone likes the same things.

    I think after age 4 to 5 children are fully capable of understanding some words are not appropriate. My daughter knows intuitively to not say things even like "stupid" and asked if she could say "annoying". She listens to the radio with us, but if there is an inappropriate or overly sexual song we change it. Her grandparents do not and that's how she knows the lyrics to "Tik Tok" and we're both very ashamed. Although she never sings the right words and its hilarious. I've still stubbed my toe and said the f word, and she only said that once and realized she shouldn't have and has never said it again.

    I forget what else I was going to respond to...oh if your son is making decisions for your kingdom or whatever, he's too old to breast feed.

    I don't think hitting your child is ever okay. Last night I wanted to, because DD was on my last nerve and wouldn't listen to a thing I said, but I can't instill
    that fear of being spanked in her like I had. I just can't do it and I could never let my husband do it. I understand wanting to when she just will not listen at all, but actually doing it would cause me so much anxiety and regret.

     
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  • imagepandaglitter:
    I forget what else I was going to respond to...oh if your son is making decisions for your kingdom or whatever, he's too old to breast feed.

    FTW!

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  • imagesleepy33:

    imagepandaglitter:
    I forget what else I was going to respond to...oh if your son is making decisions for your kingdom or whatever, he's too old to breast feed.

    FTW!

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  • imagebtimes3:

    This thread kept me entertained through waiting for my doctor, waiting for two buses, and the subsequent bus rides.  And I think I've disagreed with everything you guys have said with the exception of leather shorts, pacifiers, and BFing older kids.  Oh, and Pandaglitter's one about spanking.  (I am right there with ya on that.  May I never see my child flinch when my hand goes up the way I did growing up.  Just the idea of that makes me sick.)  Which I suppose makes sense since these are supposed to be UOs, but there's usually a surprising amount of agreement.

    My late-to-the-party UO:  I hate it when people give huge props to fathers who do things that are just taken for granted when moms do them.  "Oh, he's soooo great, he made his kid breakfast!  Aw, look, he braided her hair even if it is messy, bless him!"  Ugh.  And I'm not saying some fathers don't make breakfast or braid hair (well) regularly, just that it irks me when people act like men deserve some kind of medal for simply being parents.

    It is weird, because I originally was going to disagree with your UO simply because I had a crappy father, but then realized how condescending it is to men who are involved to be praised for being a parent. MH was pissed when someone asked if he was going to "babysit" our child when I am at rehearsal or performing gigs. He was like "How can it be babysitting if it is my child?" 3 hours later, he was still fuming about it!

    So you (and MH) totally have a point. Why do people think it is so "cute" when a father acts like a parent? Maybe it is because the media (TV, movies etc) portray dads as bumbling and inept? It is sad that this isn't a given now-a-days that a man who fathers a child should be involved in the child's life and competent in thier daily care.


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  • imagesleepy33:

    imagepandaglitter:


    I forget what else I was going to respond to...oh if your son is making decisions for your kingdom or whatever, he's too old to breast feed.

    FTW!

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    Thank you for the gif! This is my personal rule I'll be going by. Bahaha.
     
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