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My ongoing drama with DH

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Re: My ongoing drama with DH

  • imageLittle Jerry:
    imagescorch:

    that s where the dissociative disorder comes in.  But if there is an actual root cause, then maybe he will believe me when I tell him that it was not me causing him this pain.  It's absolutly humiliating to have to defend yourself to your husband who will not believe you no matter what .   

    It's obviously a lot easier for everyone here to say GTFO than it is for you to actually leave, but it also seems like you're taking some of the blame here almost. It should not make you feel humiliated, but rather scared that he's capable of having these thoughts. You're kind of implying that you both need to work on some things, but that's not true! Therapy will help you, but the immediate concern we're all having is that he is having some serious mental health problems that might cause him to hurt you, your children or himself.

    Again, I know it's easier for us to give this advice than it is for you to take it since it's not our marriage and he's not the father of our children, but please don't feel like you have to fix his issues right now. He needs to see a mental health professional!

    in all honesty this is where I at today.  It's a situation that needs to not be ignored like I have been doing.  But if I tell him that this is what has to happen, he might fly off the handle, so I do need to take this situation seriously and get ready to leave.  

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  • imagescorch:
    imageLittle Jerry:
    imagescorch:

    that s where the dissociative disorder comes in.  But if there is an actual root cause, then maybe he will believe me when I tell him that it was not me causing him this pain.  It's absolutly humiliating to have to defend yourself to your husband who will not believe you no matter what .   

    It's obviously a lot easier for everyone here to say GTFO than it is for you to actually leave, but it also seems like you're taking some of the blame here almost. It should not make you feel humiliated, but rather scared that he's capable of having these thoughts. You're kind of implying that you both need to work on some things, but that's not true! Therapy will help you, but the immediate concern we're all having is that he is having some serious mental health problems that might cause him to hurt you, your children or himself.

    Again, I know it's easier for us to give this advice than it is for you to take it since it's not our marriage and he's not the father of our children, but please don't feel like you have to fix his issues right now. He needs to see a mental health professional!

    in all honesty this is where I at today.  It's a situation that needs to not be ignored like I have been doing.  But if I tell him that this is what has to happen, he might fly off the handle, so I do need to take this situation seriously and get ready to leave.  

    I'm really really sorry you are going through this! I know it must seem impossibly difficult.




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  • I have left an abusive husband.  I put up with it for too long.  It was the hardest thing that I ever did.  It was also necessary & the best thing I ever did in my life.  You need to gather your strength, think of your kids, make a solid plan, and leave. 

    Your H may be angry.  So f'ucking what?  You need to think beyond the end of your nose, look out & see the needs of your children.  I say that with love & concern for you.  Leave & resolve things from outside the house.  

  • imagescorch:
    imageLittle Jerry:
    imagescorch:

    that s where the dissociative disorder comes in.  But if there is an actual root cause, then maybe he will believe me when I tell him that it was not me causing him this pain.  It's absolutly humiliating to have to defend yourself to your husband who will not believe you no matter what .   

    It's obviously a lot easier for everyone here to say GTFO than it is for you to actually leave, but it also seems like you're taking some of the blame here almost. It should not make you feel humiliated, but rather scared that he's capable of having these thoughts. You're kind of implying that you both need to work on some things, but that's not true! Therapy will help you, but the immediate concern we're all having is that he is having some serious mental health problems that might cause him to hurt you, your children or himself.

    Again, I know it's easier for us to give this advice than it is for you to take it since it's not our marriage and he's not the father of our children, but please don't feel like you have to fix his issues right now. He needs to see a mental health professional!

    in all honesty this is where I at today.  It's a situation that needs to not be ignored like I have been doing.  But if I tell him that this is what has to happen, he might fly off the handle, so I do need to take this situation seriously and get ready to leave.  

    If you do decide to go and I REALLY hope you do. Please don't tell him to his face. Don't take any risks of setting him off before a professional can inform you guys of his mental health.

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  • imagescorch:

    imageLittle Jerry:

     

    It's obviously a lot easier for everyone here to say GTFO than it is for you to actually leave, but it also seems like you're taking some of the blame here almost. It should not make you feel humiliated, but rather scared that he's capable of having these thoughts. You're kind of implying that you both need to work on some things, but that's not true! Therapy will help you, but the immediate concern we're all having is that he is having some serious mental health problems that might cause him to hurt you, your children or himself.

    Again, I know it's easier for us to give this advice than it is for you to take it since it's not our marriage and he's not the father of our children, but please don't feel like you have to fix his issues right now. He needs to see a mental health professional!

    in all honesty this is where I at today.  It's a situation that needs to not be ignored like I have been doing.  But if I tell him that this is what has to happen, he might fly off the handle, so I do need to take this situation seriously and get ready to leave.  

    Do not tell him you're leaving until you and your children are already gone & in a secure, safe place. 

    Please update us if/when you leave.  We are all very concerned for you.


  • Also, please contact someone, either law enforcement or a domestic abuse program to let them know about your situation.

    If you are in the Dubuque area like your profile here says, here's a link to a program at the Y that could help you if you don't know where to turn.

    https://www.dubuquey.org/dv/index.cfm

     

     

     


  • Scorch have you told anyone IRL about what's going on?  I get that its safer in an anonymous forum to talk about it, but I def think you need someone who you trust and who knows you that knows whats up with your H.

    I also think you posted this b/c you know what you need to do and you just need to hear it.  Your H is calling you a rapist, would you ever allow anyone else to say something so repulsive to you?  NO.  This is incredibly serious, and it won't go away.

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  • imagescorch:
    imagebiokitty42:

    Lurker here, but I thought this might help.  My DH occasionally wakes up with anal/rectal pain in the middle of the night, and we came across this condition while trying to figure out what was going on:

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proctalgia_fugax" target="_blank" title="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proctalgia_fugax">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proctalgia_fugax

    Hopefully that is clicky; I've never done this before.  It sounds like there are bigger issues at hand, but maybe it will help you if you can show him this information. 

    ETA: Completely failed at link.  Check out Proctalgia fugax on Wikipedia.

    i looked that up and it sounds like what might be going on.  Did he get any relief? 

    First of all, I'm not trying to minimize or ignore the bigger issues here, but I think you got some good advice from other posters, so I'll just address your question.  Unfortunately, DH has not found any relief from the problem.  It just randomly shows up some nights, a few times a year.  He basically just waits it out each time.

    Again, I'm not trying to ignore the mental health issues here; I just thought it might help to know what might be causing his physical pain.  His reaction is still inappropriate.  I hope he can get the help he needs.

  • I don't have anything new to add to this, but I wanted to add my own two cents about how important it is for you to get out and quickly.  And to make sure that when you do go, you and your kids are somewhere safe where he can't get at you if he does fly off the handle.  If it was me, I would probably inform some sort of authority figure and then go somewhere safe (a hotel that he'd never look at or with family).  I wouldn't tell hiim in person either.  It would be on the phone or in a note.  Period.  I wouldn't want to risk him going into a rage to stop you from leaving and you getting hurt.  Please, please, please keep posting so we know you're okay.
  • I'm going to echo everyone else and say you need to put some physical space between you and your husband.

    I do think something is probably medically wrong with him. There's a disconnect between what he is saying and rational logic. I hope he can get help for whatever is wrong with him. But I don't think living with him is a very safe situation to be in until he gets that help.

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  • I'm really curious if you have discussed this with him during the day or if its only a nighttime thing...
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  • imageFairyDuster003:
    I'm really curious if you have discussed this with him during the day or if its only a nighttime thing...

    She said she's afraid he will get mad if she mentions leaving. I expect she is afraid of him, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's threatened or hurt her, other than with the police and that one shove. I doubt she'd bring up something that angers him.


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  • Am I the only one who thinks that it's odd her DH would get up in the middle of the night to go for a drive?

    Maybe he's getting raped anally by someone when he goes on his drives and doesn't remember it because they "rouffy" him at the local bar? 

     Also, I've stuck my fingers up my DH's butt while giving him a BJ and trust me he felt that so if you were shoving a cucumber or dildo up his butt I'm quite certain he would feel that.

     

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  • imageThe Nap Taker:

    Am I the only one who thinks that it's odd her DH would get up in the middle of the night to go for a drive?

    Maybe he's getting raped anally by someone when he goes on his drives and doesn't remember it because they "rouffy" him at the local bar? 

     Also, I've stuck my fingers up my DH's butt while giving him a BJ and trust me he felt that so if you were shoving a cucumber or dildo up his butt I'm quite certain he would feel that.

     

    oh .  FFS.

    he. Went for a drive AFTER, he woke up with pain. He did it once in the last 10 years that I have been with him.  

    He doesn't go to bars at all.  

    And that was my whole point to him is that there is no way to sleep through some putting their fingers in your anus.  

     

  • imagescorch:
    oh .  FFS.

    he. Went for a drive AFTER, he woke up with pain. He did it once in the last 10 years that I have been with him.  

    He doesn't go to bars at all.  

    And that was my whole point to him is that there is no way to sleep through some putting their fingers in your anus.  

     

     I agree with you completely. Which is why I'm concerned he would accuse you of this. Either there's something wrong with his colo-rectal region (pain is real; needs to see a doctor) or there is something wrong with his brain (needs to see a doctor).

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  • And yes I have told a small handful of people's that I trust because I'm going to need help just getting him to realise that he needs help.  My DH is very stubborn, to say the least.
  • imageLuckyDad:
    imagescorch:
    oh .  FFS.

    he. Went for a drive AFTER, he woke up with pain. He did it once in the last 10 years that I have been with him.  

    He doesn't go to bars at all.  

    And that was my whole point to him is that there is no way to sleep through some putting their fingers in your anus.  

     

     I agree with you completely. Which is why I'm concerned he would accuse you of this. Either there's something wrong with his colo-rectal region (pain is real; needs to see a doctor) or there is something wrong with his brain (needs to see a doctor).


    I vote both.

    Scorch, stay safe, k?


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  • I've never heard anything thing like that, ever. I have also never heard your story, sorry.

    Do you have a place you can go and stay? Like family or friends? Do you know if he is on anything? or drinks behind your back? 

    Some posters know on here that my brother died in a really bad accident years ago, he was a heroin addict and a serious alcoholic. My parent were completely fooled by him and his use. He was bat.***.crazy. 90% of the time. I wonder what it would be like if we knew he needed help? Ya know.

     

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  • I apologize to OP if you take my response as inappropriate but I read everyone else response and pretty much second what everyone says. THIS IS SO ODD TO ME! I'm sorry if it came across completely inappropriate or in some way hurtful or anything.

     

  • imageHilarityEnsued:
    imageThe Nap Taker:

    Some posters know on here that my brother died in a really bad accident years ago, he was a heroin addict and a serious alcoholic. My parent were completely fooled by him and his use. He was bat.***.crazy. 90% of the time. I wonder what it would be like if we knew he needed help? Ya know.

    I'm so sorry to hear about your brother.  The bolded is very much what I was trying to address in my previous posts.  I think OP is deeply in denial and sort of "this kind of things doesn't happen to me/people I know/only happens to other people" state. 

    My points before were that I really do understand how hard it is to have the proper perspective from within the situation.  There are literally hundreds of tragic and infamous examples of people that have committed unspeakable acts having basically "fooled" those closest to them.

    I completely agree with you. My parents didn't know anything, they were open minded people but he wasn't shooting up in the living room or getting hammered at family functions. I was young but we talk about it now and think to to ourselves he was so good at hiding it but he was seriously crazy. We just thought he was "eccentric" or he would get help on his own or say he needed it. 

    And not to be heartless OP but drugs, especially meth will do some crazy things to you.

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  • imageEllaHella:

    imageRondackHiker:
    Dude, scorch. I mean... Does he believe it's you in the daytime? If he's in a dissociative state he is dangerous. Period. He needs more care than you can give. He needs a psych consult. Now. You should not be trying to convince him it isn't you and to get care. You should be seeing if he can go to the hospital. Listen, I was raped. If he believes he was raped and you want to ignore the risk to you and the girls... He could be suicidal. I was. Most victims are at some point. Get him to the hospital.

    If he is a danger to himself or others, he can be held for a psyche eval.  We have had to do this for someone close to use. 


    I'm hoping she is motivated by her own safety and takes the girls and goes, but if not, Im hoping she could get him admitted out of concern for him.

    I can only imagine the pain of watching someone you love change so much.


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  • I agree with the previous posts. Please get out and protect your daughters and yourself. Your husband accusing you of rape is not something that should be passed off. If he adamantly believes that then he truly needs help. Good luck and please put your family first.  

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  • So...what are the chances that your husband is having anal sex  with someone and is somehow concocting a whole scenario to cover for the fact? stranger things have happened. I feel like your head in the sand reaction is almost weirder than his accusations because presumably he is mentally ill, and you are well. Maybe you both aren't well. you have no business sharing quarters if one of you thinks that the other is assaulting him/ her.

    it's not just a matter of what to do in this situation- he needs HELP. you need to get your children to safety. stop waiting for it to clear up on it's own. it will only get worse from here. Time will not make this go away.

     really- take some responsibility for your life, or at least get your kids somewhere that they aren't under threat of a dissociated individual who can't tell reality from fantasy.

  • it's not really an AE, I haven't been on this board in years, so I had to make a new user account. my old one either is disconnected or I have the wrong pw...but seriously? thanks!

     

     uh..lots of the worlds most vocal homophobes are active homosexuals. It isn't new. And I don't think it's been established that logic has any role here. Or has it, and I've missed that part?

    I like that you're picking me to play the part of ridiculous in this *** show, though. interesting.

     

     

     

     

  • imageHilarityEnsued:
    imageQueen of the Damned:

     uh..lots of the worlds most vocal homophobes are active homosexuals. It isn't new. And I don't think it's been established that logic has any role here. Or has it, and I've missed that part?

    I like that you're picking me to play the part of ridiculous in this *** show, though. interesting.

    Blah blah you aren't the only one to have someone reply to them in this thread.

    My point to the bolded was that... let's say he's having a torrid sexual affair with a dude and they play hide the sausage daily.  OP has never said anything about suspecting him of cheating, or accusing him of cheating, or accusing him of anything.

    If he was having a butt-sex-a-thon, one would assume that either his buttt wouldn't hurt, or, if it did hurt, presumably he would know why.  So why bring anything up, let alone go so far as to accuse his wife of rape?  Why not just continue the affair in secret.  Even totally absent logic, your statement didn't make any sense to me.

    ok- we've established that nothing about this is makes sense. why would it be MORE outlandish to think that his intense denial of being gay wouldn't lead him to dissociate and concoct something that his brain thinks makes better sense? 

     I was just throwing it out there- the shocker in all of this (lol) for me is that the OP is just oh! we're all safe! it's bugging me that he thinks Im raping him in the night, and I don't really care that he wakes up furious with me and takes his sore ass for a drive to wherever! I mean, what the effing heck?

  • Once I screamed RAPE outside the Ritz in Downtown Dallas!

    I was to busy taking shots with some random people and my DH and is brothers wanted to go to another place. So, I was pissed and didn't want to leave. 

    True Story

    Oh and I PPH Hilarity. 

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  • imageThe Nap Taker:

    Once I screamed RAPE outside the Ritz in Downtown Dallas!

    I was to busy taking shots with some random people and my DH and is brothers wanted to go to another place. So, I was pissed and didn't want to leave. 

    True Story

    WTF dude?
  • imageQueen of the Damned:
    it's not really an AE, I haven't been on this board in years, so I had to make a new user account. my old one either is disconnected or I have the wrong pw...but seriously? thanks!nbsp;nbsp;uh..lots of the worlds most vocal homophobes are active homosexuals. It isn't new. And I don't think it's been established that logic has any role here. Or has it, and I've missed that part?I like that you're picking me to play the part of ridiculous in this *** show, though. interesting.nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;

    So he's so homophobic that he's blaming his wife for raping him to make himself feel better about banging other dudes?

    Right. HE's response is excellent. Read it. What has her, and me, side eyeing you is that completely wacko theory you came up with.


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  • Queen, your need to shut your mouth and read up on abusive relationships if you're not an AE.


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  • imageThe Nap Taker:
    Once I screamed RAPE outside the Ritz in Downtown Dallas!I was to busy taking shots with some random people and my DH and is brothers wanted to go to another place. So, I was pissed and didn't want to leave.nbsp;True Story


    Oh.


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  • I gave her good advice.

    The AE was saying he was a homophobic guy who was cheating with a dude and his way to hid it was to say his wife was raping him. Which is total horsecrap.

     

    I meant to quote sofa. 


    Relax. 

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  • imageThe Nap Taker:
    I gave her good advice.The AE was saying he was a homophobic guy who was cheating with a dude and his way to hid it was to say his wife was raping him. Which is total horsecrap.nbsp;I meant to quote sofa.nbsp; Relax.nbsp;

    I personally find using the idea of rape to get your way and manipulate others offensive, but this isn't the place for this discussion.


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  • imageEllaHella:
    imageThe Nap Taker:

    I gave her good advice.

    Relax. 

    Perhaps it simply isn't the best time and place for the side jokes.  That's all. 

    That was supposed to be a joke?  Oh.
  • imageEllaHella:
    imageThe Nap Taker:

    I gave her good advice.

    Relax. 

    Perhaps it simply isn't the best time and place for the side jokes.  That's all. 

    You're probably right. I didn't mean it has a joke. I tried to deter the AE (or whatever it was)

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  • imageRondackHiker:
    Queen, your need to shut your mouth and read up on abusive relationships if you're not an AE.

    Im not convinced this situation is abusive- I truly believe he is mentally ill and in need of urgent care. and for the OP to not move her children and self to safety is alarming and a pretty side eye worthy. HE ISN'T acting predictably. she can not predict whether they are in harms way or not, and therefore it is up to her to choose the path of greatest safety. If a person accuses you of rape and you're not raping them, don't just hope they're bluffing. take action.

     

  • imageQueen of the Damned:

    imageRondackHiker:
    Queen, your need to shut your mouth and read up on abusive relationships if you're not an AE.

    Im not convinced this situation is abusive- I truly believe he is mentally ill and in need of urgent care. and for the OP to not move her children and self to safety is alarming and a pretty side eye worthy. HE ISN'T acting predictably. she can not predict whether they are in harms way or not, and therefore it is up to her to choose the path of greatest safety. If a person accuses you of rape and you're not raping them, don't just hope they're bluffing. take action.

     


    She's said he is emotionally abusive and that he's gotten physical and that she is scared of his temper.

    How is this not abusive again?


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  • This sounds like psychotic behavior. He sounds delusional and could be having tactile hallucinations which are causing the sensation in his rectum. We have had patients with that tactile hallucination before (I work in mental health). I would have him evaluated by a psychiatrist. It might be good for him to go to the ER. If he shows up with those complaints, they will almost certainly do a psych consult.
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    imageQueen of the Damned:

    imageRondackHiker:
    Queen, your need to shut your mouth and read up on abusive relationships if you're not an AE.

    Im not convinced this situation is abusive- I truly believe he is mentally ill and in need of urgent care. and for the OP to not move her children and self to safety is alarming and a pretty side eye worthy. HE ISN'T acting predictably. she can not predict whether they are in harms way or not, and therefore it is up to her to choose the path of greatest safety. If a person accuses you of rape and you're not raping them, don't just hope they're bluffing. take action.

     

    She's said he is emotionally abusive and that he's gotten physical and that she is scared of his temper. How is this not abusive again?

     

    he's crazy. he is insane. she is in danger and she needs to get out. at least get the kids out if she's intent on seeing how this ends-I guess I missed that she said he was emotionally abusive (I think I just thought she was assessing his insane behavior as abusive and not part of his sudden acute insanity.)   either way, if this isn't mud, her part in this is the important one. Being of rational mind, it is up to her to seek help for her whole family. I think we all agree. my mention of his potentially dissociating due to latent shame and fear wasn't meant as an insult or joke- it was just a theory. everyone crapped all over themselves over it, though, so I guess you're all pretty familiar with this guy and what his special issues are.  in that case help them. you have all the answers!

     

  • I just caught up on your posts. I'm just adding one more push for you to get somewhere safe and address your situation with him from a distance. Take care of yourself and your kids.
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  • imageQueen of the Damned:
    imageRondackHiker:
    imageQueen of the Damned:

    imageRondackHiker:
    Queen, your need to shut your mouth and read up on abusive relationships if you're not an AE.

    Im not convinced this situation is abusive- I truly believe he is mentally ill and in need of urgent care. and for the OP to not move her children and self to safety is alarming and a pretty side eye worthy. HE ISN'T acting predictably. she can not predict whether they are in harms way or not, and therefore it is up to her to choose the path of greatest safety. If a person accuses you of rape and you're not raping them, don't just hope they're bluffing. take action.

     

    She's said he is emotionally abusive and that he's gotten physical and that she is scared of his temper. How is this not abusive again?

     

    he's crazy. he is insane. she is in danger and she needs to get out. at least get the kids out if she's intent on seeing how this ends-I guess I missed that she said he was emotionally abusive (I think I just thought she was assessing his insane behavior as abusive and not part of his sudden acute insanity.)   either way, if this isn't mud, her part in this is the important one. Being of rational mind, it is up to her to seek help for her whole family. I think we all agree. my mention of his potentially dissociating due to latent shame and fear wasn't meant as an insult or joke- it was just a theory. everyone crapped all over themselves over it, though, so I guess you're all pretty familiar with this guy and what his special issues are.  in that case help them. you have all the answers!

     

    well, that escalated quickly .

     

    my husband is not gay and he's not banging other dudes. And he's not doing meth.  He has some paranoid tendencies , and we have some things to work through , but I think they can be worked through.  I asked a very good friend whom I trust , that is not a stranger on the Internet ( no offence intended to those that gave me solid heartfelt advice). I have my next two steps of action to make this better.  I'm going to go sleep downstairs for a length of time so that he figures out its not me doing this to him, and I'm going to go start counciling.  And not to pull a " you don't know my lyfe " but he's not going to start hitting me.  He shoved me once in the whole time we've been together and I told him in no uncertain terms that he was not to put his hands on me ever again. We will be okay, I just need to take this a lot more seriously than I have been. 

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