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Calling Angry-Table for 1

i will try to keep this short, but im so angry i hope to not ramble. Friend a i grew up with has always been a bit competative with me. when we were kids, it was who had longer, "prettier hair", who had better boyfriend, petty crap. However, always had a great friendship so i just chalked it up to that was her and not to be snotty, maybe her competativeness was from a bit of jealousy.

Fast forward to beign adults. I was in serious relationship and knew he was THE ONE. She was single. She randomly contacted ex and started dating again. several months later, i got engaged. She started openly discussing her getting married and often talked about how she "had to get married before me becuse she is older than me."  (9 months). She gets engaged shortly after and openly plans her wedding for following February since mine was planned for Sept. She then asks when we plan on starting a family. I never really clue her in. She later tells me her and her DH started when we got married because she assumed we would be starting soon after married.

She tries for over year with no success. Keep in mind she smokes, drinks and is very obese. meanwhile we are trying, but not saying anything. Year goes by for us and we start treatment with RE. She goes to OBGYN and does 2 rounds of clomid.  She calls me to vent its not working, so i decide to open up to her about what we are doing, share the knowledge i have and suggest she see an RE.  At this time, im on IUI 3 and about to have Lap for endo. She does initial testing and is DX with PCOS, blocked tube and poor egg reserve. They are all OOP, so she tries IUI.  Currently in second cycle of IUI.

Which brings us to today. I never hear from the girl anymore unless she is basically calling to see if i'm pregnant.  She randomly texts me today to ask if we are still moving forward with IVF. i say yes, being honest and thinking maybe she has a question since RE stongly encouraged them to do that. She says "oh, just wanted to see where you were with it. I have 3 21mm follies on my good side, so hoping this is it for us.  After everything we have been through, I'm so ready to just be pregnant!" i don't respond back.  About 3 min later, texts again and says, "ok, well fingers crossed this works for me."  Then a third text, "and you too!"

I have always tried to be happy for people expecting or trying. Just cuz i have IF issues, doesn't mean others shouldnt try and be happy while trying or when they get their BFP. But A) she is supposed to be my friend, B)KNOWS everything we have been through and C)is so worried about getting KU before me, she doesn't even care if she is hurtful! I think im done with this friendship. I never wanted to play this competition game, and always just dismissed her comments. But this one just cut too deep.  I can't just ignore it anymore. I think what angers me even more is that s*&t always just works out for her. So i fear she really will get KU this cycle, before me. I'm sure you guys understand what i mean by that.

Sorry, rant over!

~Jen
4/12: HSG All Clear
5-1-12: DX of PCOS
5-4-12: DH S/A all normal.
5-16-12: Offically start IUI#1-->Clomid(50mg) + Trigger + IUI + progesterone supplements=BFN
IUI #2-same treatment-->BFN
July IUI#3-same treatment--->BFN
Aug 22, 2012-Laparoscopy Found/Removed extensive endometreosis.
September 2012-IUI #4-Same treatment as before. BFN
October 2012-forced break/Surgery to remove abnormal cells in left breast.
November 2012-First Injects Cycle (IUI #5)! 225IU Follistim CD 3-5, then monitoring appointment. 20+ follier & e2 >2000-Mild OHSS
December 2012-#2 Injects + IUI#6): Beta 1/18/13-BFN!
Jan 2013-Starting IVF!!! BC starts Jan 17/Lupron on Feb 13/Stims on Feb 18/ER on March 1 IVF Protocol: Lupron 10 units in am until stimms. Then 5 units of Lurpon in am, 150iu of Follistim and 1 unit of Menopur in pm. Holding dosage throughtout since response has been great. Thought we would be freeze all due to OHSS, but ended up getting more follicles then expected! 14 total!!! 12 mature and 11 fertilized. Dr calls for a 5 day transfer!! :) Will freeze remaining.
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Re: Calling Angry-Table for 1

  • Ugh what a childish, selfish b!tch. I'd be done with the "friendship" too. Doesn't sound like a friend to me. If the competition is "who is a better friend," you win hands-down. Even if that means removing her from your life since she is toxic because you certainly don't need the negative feelings right now. So sorry!
    TTC since June 2011
    DX: DH (30) severe MFI, severely low count & low motility
    Me (32): all clear
    Appt with Urologist 5/21/12: exam, ultrasound, bloodwork all normal.
    Testicular Biopsy with TESE on 6/8/12. good sperm found! (left side only) froze sperm, failed thaw test :(
    Orientation for IVF/ICSI on 6/13/12. Waiting for the green light following biopsy results...results show adequate sperm production both sides.
    2nd SA 6/18/12: sample is "adequate for ICSI"
    Plan: IVF/ICSI July 2012!
    ER: 7/26/12. 15 eggs retrieved, all mature.
    TESE/TESA/aspiration from epididymis, no motile sperm found :(
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    8/3/12: 2nd opinion from MFI uro on biopsy slides. Suspects "partial late maturation arrest."
    Plan: more SAs, third biopsy/TESE with frozen back-up either from DH or DS.
    SA 8/17/12: Zero sperm
    SA 8/23/12: Zero sperm
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    Wow, she sounds like a real winner!  Seriously, I don't blame you for wanting to cut such a toxic person out of your life.  If I were you, I would definitely cut ties and not look back.  People like this don't change - they just find new ways of competing - "Oh, I didn't have any morning sickness," "looks what a great athlete my kid is," "MY kid made the honor roll...did yours?"  And really, who needs that? 

    She also sounds like she's sort of "done" with you too - real friends don't keep in tocuh just to see if they are still "ahead" in the fertility department.  And they certainly care about your feelings.

    So, yeah, I would say to be done with her.  IF is stressful enough.  You don't need to feel like someone is "racing" with you.

    And, might I add, I commend you for trying to be happy for other people's BFPs.  It's certainly not easy to be, when you are dealing with IF.  I know I was rarely happy to see others getting pregnant, and not me.  Certain close friends, yeah sure.  Others, not so much.  But I was never outwardly rude - I'd congratulate them and then cry/b**** behind closed doors.

    Best of luck to you.  I really hope your IVF goes well and you get your baby.

    ~Jen
    4/12: HSG All Clear
    5-1-12: DX of PCOS
    5-4-12: DH S/A all normal.
    5-16-12: Offically start IUI#1-->Clomid(50mg) + Trigger + IUI + progesterone supplements=BFN
    IUI #2-same treatment-->BFN
    July IUI#3-same treatment--->BFN
    Aug 22, 2012-Laparoscopy Found/Removed extensive endometreosis.
    September 2012-IUI #4-Same treatment as before. BFN
    October 2012-forced break/Surgery to remove abnormal cells in left breast.
    November 2012-First Injects Cycle (IUI #5)! 225IU Follistim CD 3-5, then monitoring appointment. 20+ follier & e2 >2000-Mild OHSS
    December 2012-#2 Injects + IUI#6): Beta 1/18/13-BFN!
    Jan 2013-Starting IVF!!! BC starts Jan 17/Lupron on Feb 13/Stims on Feb 18/ER on March 1 IVF Protocol: Lupron 10 units in am until stimms. Then 5 units of Lurpon in am, 150iu of Follistim and 1 unit of Menopur in pm. Holding dosage throughtout since response has been great. Thought we would be freeze all due to OHSS, but ended up getting more follicles then expected! 14 total!!! 12 mature and 11 fertilized. Dr calls for a 5 day transfer!! :) Will freeze remaining.
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  • imageHappy_Yahoo_Personaler:

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    Wow, she sounds like a real winner!  Seriously, I don't blame you for wanting to cut such a toxic person out of your life.  If I were you, I would definitely cut ties and not look back.  People like this don't change - they just find new ways of competing - "Oh, I didn't have any morning sickness," "looks what a great athlete my kid is," "MY kid made the honor roll...did yours?"  And really, who needs that? 

    She also sounds like she's sort of "done" with you too - real friends don't keep in tocuh just to see if they are still "ahead" in the fertility department.  And they certainly care about your feelings.

    So, yeah, I would say to be done with her.  IF is stressful enough.  You don't need to feel like someone is "racing" with you.

    And, might I add, I commend you for trying to be happy for other people's BFPs.  It's certainly not easy to be, when you are dealing with IF.  I know I was rarely happy to see others getting pregnant, and not me.  Certain close friends, yeah sure.  Others, not so much.  But I was never outwardly rude - I'd congratulate them and then cry/b**** behind closed doors.

    Best of luck to you.  I really hope your IVF goes well and you get your baby.

    This is exactly what DH said when i told him about the texts. He said he really doesn't want us being KU the same time because that will be the new competition.

    ~Jen
    4/12: HSG All Clear
    5-1-12: DX of PCOS
    5-4-12: DH S/A all normal.
    5-16-12: Offically start IUI#1-->Clomid(50mg) + Trigger + IUI + progesterone supplements=BFN
    IUI #2-same treatment-->BFN
    July IUI#3-same treatment--->BFN
    Aug 22, 2012-Laparoscopy Found/Removed extensive endometreosis.
    September 2012-IUI #4-Same treatment as before. BFN
    October 2012-forced break/Surgery to remove abnormal cells in left breast.
    November 2012-First Injects Cycle (IUI #5)! 225IU Follistim CD 3-5, then monitoring appointment. 20+ follier & e2 >2000-Mild OHSS
    December 2012-#2 Injects + IUI#6): Beta 1/18/13-BFN!
    Jan 2013-Starting IVF!!! BC starts Jan 17/Lupron on Feb 13/Stims on Feb 18/ER on March 1 IVF Protocol: Lupron 10 units in am until stimms. Then 5 units of Lurpon in am, 150iu of Follistim and 1 unit of Menopur in pm. Holding dosage throughtout since response has been great. Thought we would be freeze all due to OHSS, but ended up getting more follicles then expected! 14 total!!! 12 mature and 11 fertilized. Dr calls for a 5 day transfer!! :) Will freeze remaining.
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  • She sounds really immature. I think it is time to cut ties and I give you a lot of credit for not doing it a lot sooner!

    Sorry that she is in your life... and I know its not a competition but I really hope you get your BFP first :)

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  • Oooh, thats a blood boiler. I had "friends" like that before too...its just better to cut them out now because it'll just keep going!! I had a friend once that was a problem "one upper". If my job sucked, hers sucked worse. If I got dumped, she was dating a cheater and that was worse. So on and so on....the straw that broke that camel's back was when she missed my wedding and claimed she took a nap and overslept!!! WTF. Haven't talked to her since and I'm a lot happier these days!!

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  • She sounds incredibly childish, petty and selfish!!! It's not worth it to waste your time on someone like that even if you have been friends for years.

    I had to end a friendship recently with a childhood friend because whenever I would see her she would always dig into me and hit below the belt with really stupid, but hurtful comments and no matter how many times I told her to stop and I didn't appreciate it, she kept at it. So I had to end our friendship to keep my sanity. It's not worth it for me to be surrounded with negative people. 

    You need to focus on yourself right now and surround yourself with people who love and support you no matter what. Not people who are all about "me me me" and are competitive with you over having a baby - that's a new kind of low. 

    I don't blame you at all for ranting, she sounds like a peach! 

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  • I'm sorry, that's the worst.   I had a childhood friend like that too.   I had to cut it off too.   I realized that if I met her at 29 I wouldn't be friends with her because she says hurtful things.  

    Since we've stopped talking, she's contacted my mom to ask if I was having IF issues and to announce she's expecting her 2nd son.  Confused

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  • What a nasty human being! You don't need this in your life, especially not now. I would have probably cut her off a while ago...IMO you've been way too nice!
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    3 Clomid IUIs -- BFNs
    IVF #1 never made it to transfer
    On "egg health" cocktail DHEA/CoQ10/FRC/Pregnitude/Melatonin
    Starting IVF #2 for Feb 2013
    Follistim/Menopur/Ganirelix
    Cancelled mid-cycle due to high P4 levels early on.
    OCPs again for IVF 2.5 mid-March. IVF 2.5 transferred two "gorgeous" 5-day blasts and BFFN. Even REI is baffled
    On indefinite hold until a huge stroke of serendipity led me to IVF 3 May 2014
    Testing found positive cardiolipins/APS, now on lovenox and intralipid infusions
    Transfer of 2 5-day blasts and (FINALLY) BFFP!! 1st ultrasound shows two sacs and two HB, but one is sluggish, almost expecting vanishing twin Subsequent ultrasound confirmed vanishing twin, but my other Little critter looks fantastic!
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  • I agree with PP. Cut her loose, you'll be glad you did. You don't need that crap right now (or ever)

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  • ew just get rid of her, and tell her not to contact you anymore.  

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    Ugh.
    I just couldn't surround myself with people to bring me down like that. That competitive BS would just be soooo frustrating.
  • I am so sorry! I had to cut out 2 "friends" too. They apparently knew everything about everything and after a while, I was just done with it!

    Good for you on being the better person! You don't need to keep people around like that!

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