Bloomberg on the boob..

nic326

annaruiz2:

megzway:

annaruiz2:

I think it's great. Mother that just choose not to breastfeed are making a selfish choice and it could affect the rest of their baby's life. Your children do not belong to you, you should respect that they are their own people and make the best decisions for them and their health until they are able to do so themselves. If you aren't ready to be selfless, don't have a baby.

Choosing to feed your child is not selfish. Come back & post on this board when your baby is 12 months not just 15 weeks. I'd like to hear your opinion than. Not because I think it's invalid now just that experience might change it at that point. Until than keep up the good fight w/ calling mothers who FF selfish. That'll win you points in your argument. Said no one ever. 

Choosing to feed an infant formula is selfgish, unless there is absolutely no other way. I have 3 children, none of my children are 15 weeks. I am however 15 weeks pregnant. If you can't comprehend a ticker, I can see where the benefits of breastfeeding would be beyond you.

I suppose you think FF is lazy too?

I sure hope BF comes as easily to you as you imagine it will in your head. Those of us that have been there AND had difficulty with it will all be waiting for your feedback on what we did wrong

penguingrrl

I did just think about the public health aspect of it. I lived in NYC for 5 years (moved back to NJ in June of this year) and one major problem was WIC funding. Many people who couldn't afford formula still earned too much to qualify for WIC. The calculation for qualifying does not account for COL, so somewhere where you can rent an apartment for $500 a month you will easily be able to get food still on a lower income, but I've never seen a listing for under $1300 in NYC and that's generally a studio. As a result of not qualifying for WIC but not being able to afford formula many mothers water down formula to make it last longer and there has been an upsurge in hospitalizations from this. I guess if you consider that then pushing BFing makes sense.

That said, just forcing BFing while in the hospital will not change that. BF friendly workplaces, maternity leave policies at all (many low income women are back to work within a week of giving birth because they can't afford to take any sort of leave) low cost pumps and education would be a start towards this public health goal. Simply making women nurse at the hospital isn't going to do anything to help this.

CoffeeBeen

ETA: nothing.

monkeysmama62

annaruiz2:

I think it's great. Mother that just choose not to breastfeed are making a selfish choice and it could affect the rest of their baby's life. Your children do not belong to you, you should respect that they are their own people and make the best decisions for them and their health until they are able to do so themselves. If you aren't ready to be selfless, don't have a baby.

Seriously? So I'm selfish because I chose to stop breastfeeding because I couldn't produce enough milk? Could I have done everything in my power to try and produce more? Yes. Did I? No. I'm epileptic and have a husband who works 3rd shift. I needed my sleep. Would you have rathered I let my daughter starve to death than to feed her formula? I'm pretty sure my daughter does belong to me. I gave birth to her, pay all her bills, clothe and feed her. I'm pretty sure she doesn't belong to anyone else.

monkeysmama62

CoffeeBeen:

pepomntpat:

Ladies, annaruiz2 is a troll. Let it go.

Oooooooooooh.  Oops, I didn't meant to feed her.

My bad. Though I should have known better. 

LuckyDad

I'm totally pro-Breast Feeding, but I also tend to prefer decisions be made by health care providers and not politicians in terms of patient care. If the government wants to inform the public and nudge mothers to breast feed through education, great! But I definitely prefer when government provides a carrot rather than trying to enforce what is good for us with a stick (I'm looking at you, NYC soda ban).

kllrbnny

LuckyDad:

I'm totally pro-Breast Feeding, but I also tend to prefer decisions be made by health care providers and not politicians in terms of patient care. If the government wants to inform the public and nudge mothers to breast feed through education, great! But I definitely prefer when government provides a carrot rather than trying to enforce what is good for us with a stick (I'm looking at you, NYC soda ban).

Exactly! I think that Bloomberg is coming from a genuinly good place with all of these health related mandates he's come up with lately, however I do not think that he is going about it the right way at all. Government has no room mandating these things. Education about why we should make the healthy choices is where the govt focus should be.

LuckyDad

IrishCoffee7:

Meh.  I'm not a big fan of that website, it's pretty biased in the coverage.  I can't get it up for this debate but it kind of actually irks me that formula companies have the ability to basically have free access to market to me when my newborn is an hour old.  I'm all for samples being readily available but in a way shoving them in a new mom's face seems to me like a win for big corporations and has nothing to do with BF vs FF.  There should be equal access, support, and information for both.

Marketing of formula is crazy! My mind was blown that we received two small canisters of formula from UPS on our doorstep when the little dude was maybe a month old. I calculated it and figured out the company had to have spent $4-5 to ship it unless they got some sort of crazy bulk rate. We were sent home with a couple samples of formula in our goody bag. I still feel kinda bad they just ended up in the trash instead of us finding someone who could have used them.

delg23

nosoup4u:

Sure hope that he's going to make sure every new mom in NYC gets a full year of paid maternity leave, so they can have adequate time to breastfeed.

Amen! I had both of my children in NYC and breastfed from the hospital until DS1 was 7 months DS2 was 5 months. And never felt pressured to FF. I did BF so I can't speak from the other side. Although, I know at my birthing class some women did feel pressure because one of the questions someone asked was "I've heard NYU pressures you if you want to FF to breastfeed, is that true?". Bloomberg needs to focus on something else. Pumping did not work out for me at all. If I wasn't a SAHM then I would not have been able to BF much at all. It is just ridiculous.  

MrsCodeMonkey

I delivered at a pro-BF hospital and I still got all the free samples and coupons. I wasn't bothered by it. I saved them in case I might need them and eventually gave them away. I ended up with 3 full sized cans of formula that my friends were glad to have. 

I had an LC and a few of my nurses took the training class and helped me with the latch. That being said, my colustrum didn't come in quickly enough and they pushed formula after trying to pump and getting a few drops. The pediatrician pushed formula supplements too. DD had lost a little over a pound in a couple of days. In spite of all this, I am still BF. Later I found out that I could have skipped the formula, but I didn't know enough to go against medical recommendations. In the end it's the individual's choice, but when you're unsure of what to do, you follow medical advice.