Poll: What "nestism" do you hate?

ohwhattheheck

I hate (hate, hate) when people use "Everything in moderation" as a blanket statement.

Yes, for some things moderation is fine but for other things, doing something in "moderation" isn't good enough.  This bothers/bothered me most on the tri boards in reference to lunch meat.  It only takes ONE TIME to get listeria from lunch meat so having it in moderation really isn't good enough (in my opinion).  That's like saying you won't get pregnant without using a condom just as long as you only do it in moderation....it just takes once!

On the other hand, things like a small glass of wine during pregnancy is fine in moderation so that would be a time when it is okay to say you can consume "in moderation".

brandonsfuturewife07

so what you're saying is...

you'd drink wine while pregnant but not eat lunch meat?

littleittybitty

... and peoples definition of moderation varies.

AmyDrinkie

I have to agree with you on the moderation thing - moderation is relative too, so my definition of moderate wine consumption could be a helluva lot more than yours since I drink it every day. ?But is this really a "nestism?" ?I see it in a lot of other places.?

punkfiction

LUNCH MEAT?? LOL i think that is the one thing i giggle about every time i hear a preg say their "rules".

i had a diet coke with lunch today. it was delish

LilMissLadybug

ohwhattheheck:

I hate (hate, hate) when people use "Everything in moderation" as a blanket statement.

Yes, for some things moderation is fine but for other things, doing something in "moderation" isn't good enough.  This bothers/bothered me most on the tri boards in reference to lunch meat.  It only takes ONE TIME to get listeria from lunch meat so having it in moderation really isn't good enough (in my opinion).  That's like saying you won't get pregnant without using a condom just as long as you only do it in moderation....it just takes once!

On the other hand, things like a small glass of wine during pregnancy is fine in moderation so that would be a time when it is okay to say you can consume "in moderation".

True, but FAS can happen from one drink. I'm guilty of saying "everything in moderation"

Califlorida

i hate when people ask you to explain ferber in 10 words or less because they must ferber their child right. this. second!

research, people.... 

iris427

Holy ____ Batman

 

ohwhattheheck

brandonsfuturewife07:

so what you're saying is...

you'd drink wine while pregnant but not eat lunch meat?

yes.  I drank two small glasses of wine when I was pregnant but did not eat COLD lunch meat.

Mrs.State746

brandonsfuturewife07:

so what you're saying is...

you'd drink wine while pregnant but not eat lunch meat?

LOL that's what I read too....

ToledoDeux

I completely agree with the OP: it bugs to no end when people pull the moderation thing with lunch meat.  Eat it, don't eat it, whatever - but at least understand the risk.

My nestism peeve is "here's my 2 cents."  I hate the phrase in general, but hate it especially when people feel the need to start a whole new post hours after a subject has died, and start it with that nails-on-chalkboard phrase.

jculp

brandonsfuturewife07:

so what you're saying is...

you'd drink wine while pregnant but not eat lunch meat?

Seriously... I would go for the lunch meat before having a glass of vino while pregnant.  That's just me

brandonsfuturewife07

ohwhattheheck:

brandonsfuturewife07:

so what you're saying is...

you'd drink wine while pregnant but not eat lunch meat?

yes.  I drank two small glasses of wine when I was pregnant but did not eat COLD lunch meat.

that is just really odd to me.  i cannot put into words why, though.

JessMil10

brandonsfuturewife07:

you'd drink wine while pregnant but not eat lunch meat?

This is what I was thinking. I asked my doctor about lunch meat... the chance of contracting listeria from lunch meat is very very very slim. Especially if you are getting it from a place that takes care of their meat. 

So it is more a matter of YOUR opinion on what you can have in moderation. SO you are annoyed people don't share your exact opinion on portion?

 

lifeasmommy

I hate it when people generalize

Mrs.State746

LilMissLadybug:

ohwhattheheck:

I hate (hate, hate) when people use "Everything in moderation" as a blanket statement.

Yes, for some things moderation is fine but for other things, doing something in "moderation" isn't good enough.  This bothers/bothered me most on the tri boards in reference to lunch meat.  It only takes ONE TIME to get listeria from lunch meat so having it in moderation really isn't good enough (in my opinion).  That's like saying you won't get pregnant without using a condom just as long as you only do it in moderation....it just takes once!

On the other hand, things like a small glass of wine during pregnancy is fine in moderation so that would be a time when it is okay to say you can consume "in moderation".

True, but FAS can happen from one drink. I'm guilty of saying "everything in moderation"

I was going to say this too....From what I've read there isn't a magic # of drinks while pregnant that causes FAS soooo having 2 glasses COULD cause it.  YOU just never know.

Wassygirl

i think bsc is totally overused.

goodtobethelarkster

I wouldn't really say "everything in moderation" is a nestism, though.  It's just one of those phrases like "everything happens for a reason" that people spout off everywhere...

I get what you're saying about "everything in moderation" re: the lunch meat but another way of interpreting that is "hey, use common sense - take the whole OMG LUNCH MEAT!!!!11!!!! sentiment in a temperate way.  Don't get sandwiches from the back of some guys van.  But also don't have a heart attack if you find out there was ham in the panini you just ate.  Have a moderate, reasoned, common sense approach to stuff."

iris427

I can see her logic on wine vs. lunch meat

ohwhattheheck

punkfiction:

LUNCH MEAT?? LOL i think that is the one thing i giggle about every time i hear a preg say their "rules".

i had a diet coke with lunch today. it was delish

eh, I was using lunch meat as an example.  I also drank coffee and caffeinated pop during my pregnancy but did that in moderation (1 or 2 per day)

I realize that "moderation" is relative... that isn't my point.

lifeasmommy

I guess that's not really nestism but I just hate it lol

what works for YOU may not work for everyone else

ToledoDeux

JessMil10:

brandonsfuturewife07:

you'd drink wine while pregnant but not eat lunch meat?

This is what I was thinking. I asked my doctor about lunch meat... the chance of contracting listeria from lunch meat is very very very slim. Especially if you are getting it from a place that takes care of their meat. 

So it is more a matter of YOUR opinion on what you can have in moderation. SO you are annoyed people don't share your exact opinion on portion?

 

No, the point is that moderation doesn't really apply here.  There is no "safe" amount of listeria - you either get it from the lunch meat, or you don't.  And it really doesn't have anything to do with how an establishment "handles" their meat, either - contamination can happen in processing, before it ever gets to a store.

susanmosley

I hate "but every child develops at his own rate"

It's just SO obvious and unnecessary. ?

LynnInLove1007

brandonsfuturewife07:

ohwhattheheck:

brandonsfuturewife07:

so what you're saying is...

you'd drink wine while pregnant but not eat lunch meat?

yes.  I drank two small glasses of wine when I was pregnant but did not eat COLD lunch meat.

that is just really odd to me.  i cannot put into words why, though.

I have a friend who is pg and smokes, but won't eat cold lunch meat. It makes NO sense to me. You will pump poisonous chemicals into your baby but won't risk bacteria that will most likely NOT harm your fetus.

GeoffreytheGiraffe

lunch meat: the gift that keeps on giving

in terms of fun posts...

JessMil10

And I don't really know what does and doesn't count as a nestism. I guess I get bothered by how much people freak out over small things, especially choices people are making for their children. It doesn't effect you if someone lets their child watch Sesame Street! Get over it! And don't get me started about "Bumpers and blankets will kill your baby!" people.

Momma_S

I hate when people try to pretend like they're not AWing.

If the subject of your post is "Will my child ever talk" and then in the post you say, "he is 10 months old and only says mama, dada, baba, puppy, kitty, chair, milk, boobie, TV, book..." obviously you are just posting to AW that your kid can talk.

JessMil10

Wassygirl:

i think bsc is totally overused.

Haha, this too.

Karen_77

I get annoyed when someone gets slammed on a comment they make just because of their post count.  I.E. "so you with 3 posts are going to call me out!"  Annoying.  Judge a post on the content not on the person's post count.

JollyGreenGoat

punkfiction:

i had a diet coke with lunch today. it was delish

EVILDOER!!! BURN HER!!!

 

stephm0188

"I turned out just fine."

That being said....

I ate Subway often while pregnant, and I always had a large Mt Dew with it, and Adam turned out just fine.

 Aside from the extra pinkie on his left hand, that is.

ohwhattheheck

LilMissLadybug:

True, but FAS can happen from one drink. I'm guilty of saying "everything in moderation"

No, FAS can not happen from one drink:

"A large study examined 400,000 women in the U.S., all of whom had consumed alcohol during pregnancy. Not a single case of fetal alcohol syndrome occurred and no adverse effects on children were found when consumption was under 8.5 drinks per week. "

 

papagena

Well, it's not a phrase, but I hate the nestie tendency to take a post, and totally ignore the original subject in order to lambast the OP for a phrase/picture.  There's my two cents. 

punkfiction

Momma_S:

I hate when people try to pretend like they're not AWing.

If the subject of your post is "Will my child ever talk" and then in the post you say, "he is 10 months old and only says mama, dada, baba, puppy, kitty, chair, milk, boobie, TV, book..." obviously you are just posting to AW that your kid can talk.

yes yes yes. 

or "ugh, i am losing weight so fast i dont know what to do!!! its like im SO skinny!"

exhausted_bride

Everything is getting the "side-eye". It's weird.

brandonsfuturewife07

GeoffreytheGiraffe:

lunch meat: the gift that keeps on giving

in terms of fun posts...

so very true.

it only takes ONE TIME to get listeria, people!  ONE TIME!

ohwhattheheck

ToledoDeux:

JessMil10:

brandonsfuturewife07:

you'd drink wine while pregnant but not eat lunch meat?

This is what I was thinking. I asked my doctor about lunch meat... the chance of contracting listeria from lunch meat is very very very slim. Especially if you are getting it from a place that takes care of their meat. 

So it is more a matter of YOUR opinion on what you can have in moderation. SO you are annoyed people don't share your exact opinion on portion?

 

No, the point is that moderation doesn't really apply here.  There is no "safe" amount of listeria - you either get it from the lunch meat, or you don't.  And it really doesn't have anything to do with how an establishment "handles" their meat, either - contamination can happen in processing, before it ever gets to a store.

Thank you for getting my point.  This isn't about me not liking people that have a different opinion than me.  I have nothing against people that do eat lunch meat while pregnant, as long as they fully understand the risk they are taking.

I remember this past fall there was a big listeria outbreak in Canada at a packaged meat plant.  I'm sure everyone that bought the product assumed it would be safe because it didn't come off the back of some random guy's truck.

lanie26

ohwhattheheck:

LilMissLadybug:

True, but FAS can happen from one drink. I'm guilty of saying "everything in moderation"

No, FAS can not happen from one drink:

"A large study examined 400,000 women in the U.S., all of whom had consumed alcohol during pregnancy. Not a single case of fetal alcohol syndrome occurred and no adverse effects on children were found when consumption was under 8.5 drinks per week. "

 

Where on EARTH would someone get that kind of information? NO FAS cannot happen from one drink. What kind of crazy is that?

punkfiction

lanie26:

ohwhattheheck:

LilMissLadybug:

True, but FAS can happen from one drink. I'm guilty of saying "everything in moderation"

No, FAS can not happen from one drink:

"A large study examined 400,000 women in the U.S., all of whom had consumed alcohol during pregnancy. Not a single case of fetal alcohol syndrome occurred and no adverse effects on children were found when consumption was under 8.5 drinks per week. "

 

Where on EARTH would someone get that kind of information? NO FAS cannot happen from one drink. What kind of crazy is that?

 

lol yes. if that was the case, all my children would have FAS since i drank before i knew i was preg. oh noez! 

engaged678

ohwhattheheck:

I hate (hate, hate) when people use "Everything in moderation" as a blanket statement.

Yes, for some things moderation is fine but for other things, doing something in "moderation" isn't good enough.  This bothers/bothered me most on the tri boards in reference to lunch meat.  It only takes ONE TIME to get listeria from lunch meat so having it in moderation really isn't good enough (in my opinion).  That's like saying you won't get pregnant without using a condom just as long as you only do it in moderation....it just takes once!

On the other hand, things like a small glass of wine during pregnancy is fine in moderation so that would be a time when it is okay to say you can consume "in moderation".

I hate the fact that everyone thinks and expects all of their children and their friends children to be the same. ALL babies are different. Accept it and move on. I understand asking questions and getting advice but it's not rule or law so don't complain when it doesn't work... you're the Mom, you do the work and figure it out.

pinksweetpea2

How did this turn into a listeria debate?

I hate it when people AW their child in my thread. ?For example- I AW yesterday that Lily finally STTN (at 10 months) and someone with a 6 month old responded with something to the point of they understood how I felt because they were SO happy when their little one FINALLY STTN. Uh, no. ? It's not the same situation.?