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IF Testing & Treatment w/o 5.9

abjm0325abjm0325 member
edited May 2022 in Trying to Get Pregnant
This is a place for those of us who have already started TTC, but have started infertility testing and/or treatments. You can express your thoughts, feelings, and frustrations on infertility. TTC can be a long journey naturally, then add in the difficulties associated with infertility, and it becomes a whole new ballgame. The road to infertility can be lonely, frustrating, and complicated, so let's make this a place where we can vent, ask questions, and support one another. Feel free to resurrect this thread at any point in the week if you have something to say. Treat this as an ongoing conversation.

Diagnosis (if you've been): 

Status (TI/ICI/IUI/IVF/FET/benched)

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): 

How are things going?: 

Any questions?: 

GTKY: What is your favorite dish to take to a summer picnic/potluck? Bonus point if you share the recipe.
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  • edited May 2022
    @abjm0325 hey thanks for starting the thread this week! do you think we could experiment with switching out our status options for TI/ICI/IUI/IVF/FET/benched? If you get a chance to edit the original post, that would be awesome. if not, no biggie we can try it next week.
    and maybe if people are either in favor or opposed to the change or have other suggestions, they could comment on it in their status update.
    ETA omg i said "this week" so many times in my post i can't deal. 5x!!! deleting 3 so i can live with myself.
    also thanks again Abjm for editing the original thread.
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan,I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 7; 6 days of stims. 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast. 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow.
    Dec -21, standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 5; 11 days of stims. retrieval yields 5, 4M, 2 reach day-6 blast (4AB & 4BB). 1 low-level mosaic (chr. 3 deletion), 1 complex abnormal.
    Feb '22 FET (low-level mosaic): CP.
    May '22 egg retrieval, lupron flare protocol. HGH priming for 1 month before stims; md lupron 20/20u daily; menopur 225, follistim 225, 10k trigger after 8 days of stims; AFC 10; 13 retrieved; 10 mature; 8 fertilized. All frozen at 2PN for later thaw, grow, and biopsy.
    July '22 egg retrieval same protocol: 9 days of stims; AFC 8; 10 retrieved, 8 mature, 4 fertilized and frozen.
    Sept '22 ER same protocol: AFC 10; 12 retrieved, 11 mature, 11 fertilized.
    From the 3 retrievals, 7 survived to day 5-6 blastocyst, from which I have 2 normal embryos!
    Jan 20, Fully medicated FET, baby aspirin, dexamethasone, acupuncture, and as much woo as I can stand (which isn't very much). BFN.
    July 23, Natural FET + baby aspirin. BFN.
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  • @abjm0325 oh i think that's great he can go with you! mine is next monday and will be a solo adventure, i didn't even think to ask if he could come.

    Diagnosis (if you've been): uncooperative uterus/RPL... tbd

    Status (TI/ICI/IUI/IVF/FET/benched): benched

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): another monday, another HCG draw. RE appt is 5/16, really hoping HCG is at least 0 going into that appt. 

    How are things going?: they are going, yesterday was bittersweet. **TW MC** my due date from my first loss was 5/5, and just knowing that i should have a baby in my arms or at least still be pregnant from the two subsequent losses hit me like a ton of bricks at the end of the day. i had a good cry with MH. i've also had some more spotting the last 4 days, so truly i am just hopeful this most recent messy loss is approaching the end**END TW**

    Any questions?: natm

    GTKY: What is your favorite dish to take to a summer picnic/potluck? Bonus point if you share the recipe. i love a good watermelon, arugula and feta salad. with a balsamic glaze. that's it! no recipe needed :) i cheat and buy balsamic glaze from TJs. i also love just simple cherry tomatoes, burrata, olive oil with salt and pepper. yum. love a simple salad. 
  • kiki047kiki047 member
    Diagnosis (if you've been): RPL/RIF, PCOS, mild MFI 

    Status (TI/ICI/IUI/IVF/FET/benched): FET

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Trying a new BCP/microdose lupron long downreg protocol for FET prep. Will be combined with the same kitchen sink protocol I was on before. 2 more days of BCP, first baseline appt is May 17th or CD3 if I get a withdrawal bleed (which they said I may or may not). 

    Since we're talking about it, I've always thought that "Status" and "WAYDTC" are kind of asking the same thing, don't you think? One is asking you to pick from a list and the other basically asks you to spell it out? 

    How are things going?: I think the hormonal shit storm is over so now I'm just left with the aftermath of feeling walloped by Mother's Day and trying to wrap my head around this upcoming FET. NGL, I'm not feeling too hopeful about it but I'm happy to be trying something new. I also kinda sorta officially "came out" on social media in a vague general sense about our losses and IF, just making reference to how hard Mother's Day is/can be for loss Mom's and those of us who have been at this for as long as we have with seemingly nothing to show for it. I will say, I had some really nice responses from that and a few people surprised me and checked in with me yesterday in really touching ways, while others (like our immediate families) chose to ignore it completely. I say it was surprising because they weren't necessarily people I was expecting to hear from, like MH's (male) cousin, who sent me a post that said "We see you - to the mother dealing with infertility, to those yearning to be mothers, to the mother living through miscarriage, to the mother who lost a child, to those with difficult mother relationships, to those who lost a mother". I kind of thought I'd hear from some of my closest friends and when I didn't, I really wasn't expecting him to be the one to reach out. It was really sweet. I wish I had a single girlfriend to play matchmaker, he's one of the good guys. 

    Any questions?: NATM. 

    GTKY: What is your favorite dish to take to a summer picnic/potluck? Bonus point if you share the recipe.
    Since MH and I are usually hosting these kinds of things, we usually do most of the food prep. I can do a little bit of everything, my specialty is baked goods but I usually ask if I can fill in any gaps. Besides some of my cold salads (that I don't have recipes for), These are some of my other faves that I draw inspiration from:

    Puff Pastry Pinwheel appetizers - this particular recipe is for jalepeno popper pinwheels but we've done cheese/bacon/chive, mushroom, pizza, etc, the possibilities are endless. It's not specifically summery but the possibilities are endless. https://www.thebittersideofsweet.com/puff-pastry-jalapeno-popper-pinwheels/#mv-creation-533-jtr

    After I just said I'm a baker I have to admit that sometimes I cheat - this is a boxed cake mix hack but this super easy bundt cake is made with cake mix and instant pudding. If I'm short on time or low on ingredients this is so easy to just whip together in a pinch. You can use just about any cake mix/pudding combination. Other favourites are a butter pecan cake mix/butterscotch pudding, cherry chip cake/vanilla pudding, chocolate devil cake/chocolate pudding. https://thegoldlininggirl.com/2016/02/lemon-blueberry-bundt-cake-with-lemon-glaze/ 

    TTC History:

    Me: 36  MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil

    Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)

    Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil) 

    Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.

    Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.

    Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w                                                  

    Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d. 

    May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN. 

    June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between. 


    Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal

    Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic

    Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex

    Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP

    Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN

    Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin. 

    Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal. 

    June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.

    July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN. 

    Sep '22: Taking a break

    Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed. 

    Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23


  • Diagnosis (if you've been): RPL, MFI, Possible Funky Blood

    Status (TI/ICI/IUI/IVF/FET/benched): IVF 

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): BCP start on Wednesday!

    How are things going?: I made it into the IVF calendar! Tentative Retrieval Date June 16-17

    Any questions?: No, I don't think so

    GTKY: What is your favorite dish to take to a summer picnic/potluck? Bonus point if you share the recipe. Strawberry Pretzel Salad, it so yummy and not really a salad and not really a dessert. 
    Spoiler for History 

    Me - 30 DH - 32

    April 2009 - 8+ week MC
    January 2012 - BFP - DS Born 10/21/2012
    May 2013 - BFP - Twins MMC @ 13 weeks D&C
    Oct 2013 -  BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2013 -  BFP  DD Born 8/16/14 - Cholestasis at 36+5
    Nov 2016 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2016 - BFP  DD Born 6/19/17 @ 28+4 Severe Pre-E, IUGR, Cholestasis 
    Nov 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2019 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    DH Vasectomy Aug 2019
    Feb 2022 - TTC #4 with IVF - RPL testing
    Protein C and S Deficiency - Blood Thinners for Treatment - Maybe we don't know!
    June 2022 - IVF - 2 embryos - 1 transferred 6/22/22 - Transfer Failed
    July 2022 - FET - cancelled
    Dec 2022 - Vasectomy reversal
    June 2023 - DH diagnosed with Brain Tumor - TTC put on indefinite hold
    January 2025 - Surprise BFP! Due 9/13/2025 - CP
    January 2025 - Trying Again



  • kiki047kiki047 member
    @abjm0325 ummm how did you know I have some leftover grilled corn on the cob in my fridge? I know what I'm going to be making with it this week. MH will be so happy. I've made a version of that salad before but just kinda made it up as I went lol. The addition of mayo is interesting, I will try that. Hope your appt goes well today! 
    @anniemarie887 hugs, friend. Yesterday was such a heavy day for so many of us. I mostly coped by hiding and crying and eating a pint of gelato by myself. FX for that beta # today, I feel like I'm holding my breath for you every Monday now... 
    @mambo5-2 now I'm intrigued, what is a pretzel salad? I'm picturing a sweet/salty kind of concoction, with a nice textural element from the pretzels. 



    TTC History:

    Me: 36  MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil

    Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)

    Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil) 

    Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.

    Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.

    Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w                                                  

    Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d. 

    May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN. 

    June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between. 


    Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal

    Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic

    Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex

    Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP

    Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN

    Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin. 

    Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal. 

    June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.

    July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN. 

    Sep '22: Taking a break

    Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed. 

    Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23


  • Spoiler for History 

    Me - 30 DH - 32

    April 2009 - 8+ week MC
    January 2012 - BFP - DS Born 10/21/2012
    May 2013 - BFP - Twins MMC @ 13 weeks D&C
    Oct 2013 -  BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2013 -  BFP  DD Born 8/16/14 - Cholestasis at 36+5
    Nov 2016 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2016 - BFP  DD Born 6/19/17 @ 28+4 Severe Pre-E, IUGR, Cholestasis 
    Nov 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2019 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    DH Vasectomy Aug 2019
    Feb 2022 - TTC #4 with IVF - RPL testing
    Protein C and S Deficiency - Blood Thinners for Treatment - Maybe we don't know!
    June 2022 - IVF - 2 embryos - 1 transferred 6/22/22 - Transfer Failed
    July 2022 - FET - cancelled
    Dec 2022 - Vasectomy reversal
    June 2023 - DH diagnosed with Brain Tumor - TTC put on indefinite hold
    January 2025 - Surprise BFP! Due 9/13/2025 - CP
    January 2025 - Trying Again



  • So talked to the nurse today about starting BCP right, that is the plan, then they were like we need to put you on blood thinners with the BCP and I was like, uh... no I thought they decided I didn't need blood thinners.  The poor nurse was so confused, I was so confused. There is so much confusion. 
    Spoiler for History 

    Me - 30 DH - 32

    April 2009 - 8+ week MC
    January 2012 - BFP - DS Born 10/21/2012
    May 2013 - BFP - Twins MMC @ 13 weeks D&C
    Oct 2013 -  BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2013 -  BFP  DD Born 8/16/14 - Cholestasis at 36+5
    Nov 2016 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2016 - BFP  DD Born 6/19/17 @ 28+4 Severe Pre-E, IUGR, Cholestasis 
    Nov 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2019 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    DH Vasectomy Aug 2019
    Feb 2022 - TTC #4 with IVF - RPL testing
    Protein C and S Deficiency - Blood Thinners for Treatment - Maybe we don't know!
    June 2022 - IVF - 2 embryos - 1 transferred 6/22/22 - Transfer Failed
    July 2022 - FET - cancelled
    Dec 2022 - Vasectomy reversal
    June 2023 - DH diagnosed with Brain Tumor - TTC put on indefinite hold
    January 2025 - Surprise BFP! Due 9/13/2025 - CP
    January 2025 - Trying Again



  • kiki047kiki047 member
    @mambo5-2 well that is not at all what I was picturing LOL but it looks/sounds delicious! Why on earth is it called a salad? I'd call that some kind of freezer/lush cake. Also, wtf about the BCP/blood thinners. I would think baby aspirin is sufficient in this case especially since they reneged your clotting dx. 

    TTC History:

    Me: 36  MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil

    Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)

    Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil) 

    Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.

    Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.

    Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w                                                  

    Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d. 

    May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN. 

    June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between. 


    Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal

    Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic

    Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex

    Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP

    Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN

    Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin. 

    Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal. 

    June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.

    July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN. 

    Sep '22: Taking a break

    Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed. 

    Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23


  • @mambo5-2 those dishes with either strawberry or raspberry are super popular in Ukrainian communities. and oh man, that's a big thing to be confused about!! i hope they sort it out!

    @kiki047 i'm so glad you felt like sharing, i do think there's some catharsis in that. i'm sorry that immediate family didn't acknowledge, that always stings. 
  • Diagnosis (if you've been): anovulatory PCIS

    Status (TI/ICI/IUI/IVF/FET/benched): WFAF

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): I’m going to inquire with work about potentially flexing my hours to accommodate a monitored cycle! If not the play is continue taking metformin, once I have my withdrawal bleed (9 more days of BCP) start clomid 100mg CD5-9 (which I have to confirm because I’ve always taken it CD 3-7) and if I can do monitored I will add in a trigger shot of ovadril and still so TI either way! 

    How are things going?:  I am loving my new job for the hours abs the ability to workout every day on my lunch break! Also being able to get up and put on makeup and nice clothes is such a mood booster for me after being in scrubs and never wearing makeup for the last 5 years lol 

    Any questions?: anyone have any insight on taking clomid or letrozole CD5-9 VD 3-7? 

    GTKY: What is your favorite dish to take to a summer picnic/potluck? Bonus point if you share the recipe. I love making deviled eggs! I just use miracle whip, green onions and smoked paprika! Always a hit! 
  • @kiki047
    That stuff is delicious but yes definitely not a salad, I didn't name it.  Yes I am super confused in general about this. Realistically I think they should just put me on baby aspirin since I have to be on it when I am pregnant because of my history. 
    Spoiler for History 

    Me - 30 DH - 32

    April 2009 - 8+ week MC
    January 2012 - BFP - DS Born 10/21/2012
    May 2013 - BFP - Twins MMC @ 13 weeks D&C
    Oct 2013 -  BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2013 -  BFP  DD Born 8/16/14 - Cholestasis at 36+5
    Nov 2016 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2016 - BFP  DD Born 6/19/17 @ 28+4 Severe Pre-E, IUGR, Cholestasis 
    Nov 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2019 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    DH Vasectomy Aug 2019
    Feb 2022 - TTC #4 with IVF - RPL testing
    Protein C and S Deficiency - Blood Thinners for Treatment - Maybe we don't know!
    June 2022 - IVF - 2 embryos - 1 transferred 6/22/22 - Transfer Failed
    July 2022 - FET - cancelled
    Dec 2022 - Vasectomy reversal
    June 2023 - DH diagnosed with Brain Tumor - TTC put on indefinite hold
    January 2025 - Surprise BFP! Due 9/13/2025 - CP
    January 2025 - Trying Again



  • i'm waiting till tomorrow to do my proper check-in but for now, @tryingktogku i could be wrong about this but my sense of when people often take either clomid or letrazole in a cycle is typically about whether one is trying to recruit 2 or more follicles (so assuming a normal, ovulatory cycle you'd want to start your drugs earlier in the cycle before the body auto-selects a lead follicle) vs trying to plump up/improve maturation of a single follicle (which i've never done but i presume that would be the later calendar option). I have no idea what difference it would make for you, since you're normally anovulatory. maybe the idea is that your body needs more help later on in the process? do you happen to know whether, when the docs look for them, you tend to have countable antral follicles?
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan,I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 7; 6 days of stims. 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast. 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow.
    Dec -21, standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 5; 11 days of stims. retrieval yields 5, 4M, 2 reach day-6 blast (4AB & 4BB). 1 low-level mosaic (chr. 3 deletion), 1 complex abnormal.
    Feb '22 FET (low-level mosaic): CP.
    May '22 egg retrieval, lupron flare protocol. HGH priming for 1 month before stims; md lupron 20/20u daily; menopur 225, follistim 225, 10k trigger after 8 days of stims; AFC 10; 13 retrieved; 10 mature; 8 fertilized. All frozen at 2PN for later thaw, grow, and biopsy.
    July '22 egg retrieval same protocol: 9 days of stims; AFC 8; 10 retrieved, 8 mature, 4 fertilized and frozen.
    Sept '22 ER same protocol: AFC 10; 12 retrieved, 11 mature, 11 fertilized.
    From the 3 retrievals, 7 survived to day 5-6 blastocyst, from which I have 2 normal embryos!
    Jan 20, Fully medicated FET, baby aspirin, dexamethasone, acupuncture, and as much woo as I can stand (which isn't very much). BFN.
    July 23, Natural FET + baby aspirin. BFN.
  • @abjm0325 ha I literally made that salad for cinco de mayo this year! It was soo good! I hope things go well today!
    @anniemarie887 fingers crossed so hard for a 0 count today.
    @kiki047 It is quite amazing to see who does and who doesn''t reach out. Those you think would don't, and those you'd never think about do. Yesterday was so triggering for so many reasons. I'm glad you reached out and got some good responses.
    @mambo5-2 horray for retrieval calendar! I might have to make that strawberry concoction.
    @tryingktogku lunch break workouts for the win! also putting on makeup on the reg. I almost didn't wear any makeup for 2 years, and now doing it at least twice a week when I go in the office. Feels so nice.

    Diagnosis (if you've been): DOR, luteal phase defect

    Status (TI/ICI/IUI/IVF/FET/benched): TI

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): lots of clomid, triggered on Saturday night today should be O day. We've definitely done our homework. I've been a little crampy but not my usual crampyness when ovulating, which of course has me thinking the trigger didn't work, just like the clomid didn't really work either. I think I'm going to start the progesterone tomorrow.

    How are things going?: Going ok! We've done all that we can I think. Going to Disneyland on Sunday so it'll be a nice distraction for the time I'd usually start SS and testing early. We'll be flying home on 10 DPO so I'll test when I get home.

    Any questions?: Anyone heard of a trigger shot not inducing ovulation?

    GTKY: What is your favorite dish to take to a summer picnic/potluck? Bonus point if you share the recipe. We are usually the hosts of most summer bbq/parties. I love smoking ribs with homemade mac n cheese







    TTC History:
    Me: 36 H: 40 Married 2015. Together since 2010.
    TTC: Sept 2016-Oct 2017
    BFP Oct 2017. DD born July 2018.
    TTC: March 2020. BFP March 2020
    Due date was Nov 2020
    DS born Sept 2020. DS passed away Nov 2020 due to prematurity and birth trauma.
    TTC: March 2021
    IUI #1 Nov 2021, BFN
    IUI #2 Dec 2021 BFP.  MC Jan 2022
    IUI #3 Aug 2022 BFN
    IUI #4 Sept 2022 BFN
    AMH test came back at .081. Was going to move on to IVF with DE, but have decided not to. Will be leaving it up to the universe now.



  • *lurking*

    @kiki047 I think the salad part comes from the general midwestern use of “salad” = miracle whip + anything (macaroni salad, broccoli salad, etc) and in dessert form, it is jello/cool whip + stuff. This is my MILs #1 dessert that she likes to make. 
  • @abjm0325 hoping you have a great first appointment and DH is supportive! 

    @anniemarie887 Ou I love a good watermelon salad!


    @kiki047 that is so sweet to have had him reach out like that. Sometimes it is the people you least expect it from! However it is still okay to feel disappointed by your close family and friends not acknowledging it either 


    @mambo5-2 yay for having a plan!

    @optimistgardener all my cycles have been unmonitored so i really have no idea what my follicles are doing lol 

    @bearmomma1 I’m so sorry the clomid didn’t do what it’s supposed to for you but Fx the trigger did it! I am not sure if triggers don’t work but from those I’ve interacted with I’ve never heard of it not working!

  • I got my PIO today at the local fertility pharmacy. The lady at the pharmacy called and was very concerned because they usually get more meds called in and wanted to make sure they weren't missing prescriptions, talk about customer service. 
    Spoiler for History 

    Me - 30 DH - 32

    April 2009 - 8+ week MC
    January 2012 - BFP - DS Born 10/21/2012
    May 2013 - BFP - Twins MMC @ 13 weeks D&C
    Oct 2013 -  BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2013 -  BFP  DD Born 8/16/14 - Cholestasis at 36+5
    Nov 2016 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2016 - BFP  DD Born 6/19/17 @ 28+4 Severe Pre-E, IUGR, Cholestasis 
    Nov 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2019 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    DH Vasectomy Aug 2019
    Feb 2022 - TTC #4 with IVF - RPL testing
    Protein C and S Deficiency - Blood Thinners for Treatment - Maybe we don't know!
    June 2022 - IVF - 2 embryos - 1 transferred 6/22/22 - Transfer Failed
    July 2022 - FET - cancelled
    Dec 2022 - Vasectomy reversal
    June 2023 - DH diagnosed with Brain Tumor - TTC put on indefinite hold
    January 2025 - Surprise BFP! Due 9/13/2025 - CP
    January 2025 - Trying Again



  • anniemarie887anniemarie887 member
    edited May 2022
    @kiki047 I feel like I glossed over your one point “Since we're talking about it, I've always thought that "Status" and "WAYDTC" are kind of asking the same thing, don't you think? One is asking you to pick from a list and the other basically asks you to spell it out?”
    so i see that, but I also think WAYDTC could be useful, I know for me benched might feel like I’m just sitting here waiting, when I’m doing things like bloodwork and acupuncture and oddly still temping. I haven’t listed all the things out of late, but that’s just my .02 on it still being useful. 
    @tryingktogku  I’m glad you are liking your new job so much!
    @bearmomma1 I hope you have the best time in Disneyland! It’ll be a solid distraction for you!!


    Well, labs dropped in a few minutes ago. 17. I feel despondent. Which is exactly the message I just fired off to my OB. Week by week: 127 - 82 - 57- 49 - 39 - 37 - 33 - 18 - 17

    (edited for weird spacing)
     
  • @anniemarie887 UGGHHH i'm so so sorry. sending a big hug. at what point does your doc decide this process isn't happening fast enough?
    @kiki047 it's funny last week when we were having the discussion about the different cycle status options i typed a whole thing out about how i was sort of confused as to whether we even needed the WAYDTC line now that our cycle status options are on the path to being more appropriate. i thought for a long time about it and wound up going back to past weeks to see how we all use the two lines in our updates. it seems to me like the cycle status is usually pretty short, maybe just a word or two; by contrast our WAYDTC line almost always winds up being people's longest paragraph. Obviously we could just fold that paragraph into the status line, but I wonder if there's something about the way it is phrased that feels like an invitation to explain or to vent or whatever. I also wonder if there's something productive about being asked that parenthetical (testing? treatment?)?  like: hey, where are things headed, friend? how are you feeling? We could certainly think about ways to rephrase it but I also think it (intentionally or not) winds up serving as a productive prompt.
    @bearmomma1 i know it's easy to worry that things aren't working the way they should (i'm the queen of worry), but i would feel pretty confident that your trigger shot did what it is supposed to do. the same drug is used to induce ovulation in IVF cycles and, despite my aggressively lurking basically every IVF-related board on the internet, I've never heard of a trigger shot not working in those circumstances. my understanding is that it provokes a series of chemical chain reactions that force the final maturation phase and follicle release. the trigger shot dose is high enough that it's pretty overwhelming.
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan,I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 7; 6 days of stims. 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast. 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow.
    Dec -21, standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 5; 11 days of stims. retrieval yields 5, 4M, 2 reach day-6 blast (4AB & 4BB). 1 low-level mosaic (chr. 3 deletion), 1 complex abnormal.
    Feb '22 FET (low-level mosaic): CP.
    May '22 egg retrieval, lupron flare protocol. HGH priming for 1 month before stims; md lupron 20/20u daily; menopur 225, follistim 225, 10k trigger after 8 days of stims; AFC 10; 13 retrieved; 10 mature; 8 fertilized. All frozen at 2PN for later thaw, grow, and biopsy.
    July '22 egg retrieval same protocol: 9 days of stims; AFC 8; 10 retrieved, 8 mature, 4 fertilized and frozen.
    Sept '22 ER same protocol: AFC 10; 12 retrieved, 11 mature, 11 fertilized.
    From the 3 retrievals, 7 survived to day 5-6 blastocyst, from which I have 2 normal embryos!
    Jan 20, Fully medicated FET, baby aspirin, dexamethasone, acupuncture, and as much woo as I can stand (which isn't very much). BFN.
    July 23, Natural FET + baby aspirin. BFN.
  • bearmomma1bearmomma1 member
    edited May 2022
    @anniemarie887 noooooooooooo!!! wtf!! I'm so sorry. Last weeks drop and bleeding seemed so promising.
    @optimistgardener Thank you for the reassurance. I ended up cramping harder in the afternoon. It's gone away now, so I'm assuming that was the ovulation. I also have noticed a bit of spotting when I wiped. I'm hoping it's just ovulation spotting? I've been know to start my period the day after getting a LH surge (my cycles are super wonky) so I hope it's nothing more. I'm not starting progesterone until tomorrow night considering how late in the day I ovulated today.
    *edited for better words
    TTC History:
    Me: 36 H: 40 Married 2015. Together since 2010.
    TTC: Sept 2016-Oct 2017
    BFP Oct 2017. DD born July 2018.
    TTC: March 2020. BFP March 2020
    Due date was Nov 2020
    DS born Sept 2020. DS passed away Nov 2020 due to prematurity and birth trauma.
    TTC: March 2021
    IUI #1 Nov 2021, BFN
    IUI #2 Dec 2021 BFP.  MC Jan 2022
    IUI #3 Aug 2022 BFN
    IUI #4 Sept 2022 BFN
    AMH test came back at .081. Was going to move on to IVF with DE, but have decided not to. Will be leaving it up to the universe now.



  • So the appointment with the RE went…okay. He is an odd fellow, but my only option nearby so we’ll deal with his quirks for the time being. He wants to bench me this month, do an HSG the following month, and begin Clomid the month after that (assuming the HSG looks good). In my gut I feel like an HSG is probably unnecessary. Physically everything seems to still check out okay (regular periods, regular ovulation, no excessive pain), so I kind of don’t want to waste two cycles waiting to move on. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Is an HSG definitely necessary and I should just bite the bullet? Or should I just push to start Clomid next cycle? I have no idea if he would even let me do that, but it is frustrating to be benched two cycles and pay out of pocket for a procedure I think will produce no results.

     

    @anniemarie887 Friend, sending you all the hugs today. None of this (the empty due date, stubborn HCG, etc.) is fair and it shouldn’t have to be like this.  

    @kiki047 I’ll kind of agree with optimist here that while I totally get what you’re saying, people seem to respond to the two prompts in different ways. I’d be fine to re-word though if we want to differentiate them more. It is revealing the people that respond to vulnerable posts. I’m sorry some of your closest friends didn’t step up to support you, but that is so sweet that your H’s cousin did.

    @mambo5-2 Yay for making it on the IVF calendar! Sorry for all the confusion with the blood thinners though.

    @tryingktogku I hope flexing your hours will work! I don’t have any insight into the timing on the Clomid, but I would think it would be very reasonable to reach out to your doctor and request an explanation.

    @bearmomma1 Corn salad is delicious! But now that I posted it I want some… I hope O happened on schedule like it was supposed to and that the spotting stops soon.

  • @abjm0325 I have had two HSG and both have been fine but I wouldn't skip it just in case there is something that is a little funky. I also respect not wanting to be benched, its the balls. 

    @anniemarie887 I am crushed for you.  This whole situation sucks.  I don't have any words to make it better.  Girl it blows, be angry, be sad, be whatever you need to be.  We are here for every vent. 

    @tryingktogku
    I have no insight on clomid timing, I've taken clomid in the past and I think I started it CD 3 but it was like 8.5 years ago. 



    Spoiler for History 

    Me - 30 DH - 32

    April 2009 - 8+ week MC
    January 2012 - BFP - DS Born 10/21/2012
    May 2013 - BFP - Twins MMC @ 13 weeks D&C
    Oct 2013 -  BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2013 -  BFP  DD Born 8/16/14 - Cholestasis at 36+5
    Nov 2016 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2016 - BFP  DD Born 6/19/17 @ 28+4 Severe Pre-E, IUGR, Cholestasis 
    Nov 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2019 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    DH Vasectomy Aug 2019
    Feb 2022 - TTC #4 with IVF - RPL testing
    Protein C and S Deficiency - Blood Thinners for Treatment - Maybe we don't know!
    June 2022 - IVF - 2 embryos - 1 transferred 6/22/22 - Transfer Failed
    July 2022 - FET - cancelled
    Dec 2022 - Vasectomy reversal
    June 2023 - DH diagnosed with Brain Tumor - TTC put on indefinite hold
    January 2025 - Surprise BFP! Due 9/13/2025 - CP
    January 2025 - Trying Again



  • anniemarie887anniemarie887 member
    edited May 2022
    thanks everyone. i am waiting on her to get in touch with me, i mean i guess technically it is a drop? this just seems insane at this point, so we shall see. as much as i don't want another d&c or methotrexate, i need this to be over. 

    edit to add and clarity bc forming sentences is hard: she's sending me for an u/s which i was able to book for tomorrow, labs again next monday, and having another one of the OBs review everything. the head of MFM for the hospital, and head of OBGYN is part of their practice. so it is nice that someone with extra knowledgeable eyes to take another look.
  • I'm looking at IVF reddits and I don't know if that is helping or making me more anxious...
    Spoiler for History 

    Me - 30 DH - 32

    April 2009 - 8+ week MC
    January 2012 - BFP - DS Born 10/21/2012
    May 2013 - BFP - Twins MMC @ 13 weeks D&C
    Oct 2013 -  BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2013 -  BFP  DD Born 8/16/14 - Cholestasis at 36+5
    Nov 2016 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2016 - BFP  DD Born 6/19/17 @ 28+4 Severe Pre-E, IUGR, Cholestasis 
    Nov 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2019 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    DH Vasectomy Aug 2019
    Feb 2022 - TTC #4 with IVF - RPL testing
    Protein C and S Deficiency - Blood Thinners for Treatment - Maybe we don't know!
    June 2022 - IVF - 2 embryos - 1 transferred 6/22/22 - Transfer Failed
    July 2022 - FET - cancelled
    Dec 2022 - Vasectomy reversal
    June 2023 - DH diagnosed with Brain Tumor - TTC put on indefinite hold
    January 2025 - Surprise BFP! Due 9/13/2025 - CP
    January 2025 - Trying Again



  • edited May 2022
    @anniemarie887 I’m so sorry. Hopefully your doctor can provide you with some more assistance and this is over for you soon. Sending hugs. 

    @abjm0325 so I also felt like the HSG was a complete waste of time and I was benched for almost three months due to it being rescheduled a bunch of times because of Covid and then it was honestly a super painful procedure for me but my clinic would not move forward with treatment until I had it which I understand because it does usually aid the clinics funding AND they often feel it’s useless to start treatment when your tubes COULD be blocked. Like it would be an equal waste of time if you ovulate but the egg isn’t getting to the uterus and then doing medicated cycles etc. so I empathize with your feelings right now! It wouldn’t hurt to reach out and see if they would move forward without out but it’s also good to know that everything checks out too before moving forward with treatment!
  • @abjm0325 are you benched in that they won't start any treatment or did he tell you to abstain? Could you still try on your own next month? I don't see how that would hurt anything. Also, I think I've heard somewhere after an HSG you might be more likely to get pregnant that cycle?
    TTC History:
    Me: 36 H: 40 Married 2015. Together since 2010.
    TTC: Sept 2016-Oct 2017
    BFP Oct 2017. DD born July 2018.
    TTC: March 2020. BFP March 2020
    Due date was Nov 2020
    DS born Sept 2020. DS passed away Nov 2020 due to prematurity and birth trauma.
    TTC: March 2021
    IUI #1 Nov 2021, BFN
    IUI #2 Dec 2021 BFP.  MC Jan 2022
    IUI #3 Aug 2022 BFN
    IUI #4 Sept 2022 BFN
    AMH test came back at .081. Was going to move on to IVF with DE, but have decided not to. Will be leaving it up to the universe now.



  • @bearmomma1 He told me to absolutely not get pregnant until the results of the HSG come back. Which seemed pretty extreme to me and means I'm benched a minimum of two cycles. I appreciate that he is concerned about another loss, but that definitely feels like my risk to take or not take and his adamancy surprised me. Feels like a total waste of having taken letrozole this cycle to not even try. 
  • @abjm0325 it makes no sense to me for him to bench you as they only do it in the follicular phase of your cycle. Aka right after your period ends so you are not pregnant lol but to take two months off just to wait doesn’t make sense to me 
  • *lurking* 
    @anniemarie887 I'm so sorry this is the world's longest CP.  It's possible they will also give you the option of taking misoprostol, if that is at all more appealing to you. Don't get me wrong, it's not a fun experience, but you can do it at home, and after a day of *serious* cramping (and some fun gastrointestinal side effects), it's over. It's definitely less of a thing than a D&C in my experience. And fewer side effects. I guess the downside, relative to a D&C is that there is no way to be sure that everything is out, but it might be worth a shot. I'm so sorry-- what an absolute mindf*ck for no apparent reason. 

    TTC History
    TTC #1 Sep 2017-Sep 2018 
    BFP 11/30/2017 | MMC 12/31/2017
    BFP 6/22/2018 | CP 6/27/2018
    BFP 10/5/2018 | EDD 6/14/2019
    Baby girl born 6/19/19

    TTC #2 May 2020-November 2021
    BFP 7/18/2020 | MonoDi Twins | MMC 9/10/2020
    BFP 11/7/2020 | CP 11/9/2020
    RE Consult January 2021 | Dx "borderline DOR"/RPL
    IVF with PGT:
    Standard Antagonist:
    ER #1 3/27/2021 7R | 5M | 3F | 2B | 1 PGT-A Normal, 1 low-level mosaic
    ER #2 4/22/2021 10R | 7M | 3F | 2B | 0 normal, 2 aneuploid
    ER #3 5/19/2021 2R | 1M | 0F
    Estrogen Priming Antagonist:
    ER #4 7/10/2021 5R | 4M | 3F | 1B | 1 PGT-A Normal
    Duostim  (Standard Antagonist):
    ER #5 9/22/2021 13R | 11M | 8F | 5B | 2 PGT-A Normal, 1 low-level mosaic, 2 aneuploid
    ER #6 10/9/2021  9R | 6M | 4 F | 1B | 1 aneuploid
    FET #1  11/5/2021 | EDD 7/24/2022
    Baby boy born 7/19/22

    TTC #3 since May 2023 (ntnp)
    IVF Started Fall 2023 (Standard Antagonist)
    ER #7 10/6/2023 | 9R | 6M | 5F | 3B | 2 aneuploid, 1 high-level mosaic
    ER #8 10/31/2023 | 5R | 4M | 3F | 1B | 1 PGT-A Normal
    FET #2 11/27/23 | CP (bHCG = 8)
    FET #3 planned Jan 2024



  • @bumblebee0210 i always appreciate your lurks, the convo my OB and i started having i guess 2-3 weeks ago was about it being a partial molar and needing methotrexate. and then it took a massive dive, and we thought there was a light at the end of the tunnel. i think after tomorrow and getting some images it'll help formulate a plan, i'm glad to live in a metro area with a huge hospital system and access to get care so quickly. she was very um, graphic, in her description of misoprostol when i had the MMC in jan.... granted that was much further along, so knowing that it isn't a 100% success rate was also why i was like just do the d&c. but yea, at this point i'd rather try lower interventions before jumping to another d&c so quickly.
  • edited May 2022
    Anyone have any insight on whether or not you have to take the full 21 days of BCP? I missed two pills somewhere I think these last couple of weeks and I’ve planned my cycle appointments out already so that means I’ll have to stop taking the BCP after 19* days instead of 21. I feel like it shouldn’t be an issue and I should still get a withdrawal bleed? My clinic was not helpful and just said to finish the pack and I said I know but then I can’t do a monitor cycle which I would like to do

    edit to add I have no idea how I missed two pills (I’ve literally never missed a pill in my life) but I guess sh*t happens when you’re going through major life changes lol (aka new job!)
  • I started BCP today.  I feel very strange about this because I haven't taken BCP since I got married, 10.5 years ago.
    Spoiler for History 

    Me - 30 DH - 32

    April 2009 - 8+ week MC
    January 2012 - BFP - DS Born 10/21/2012
    May 2013 - BFP - Twins MMC @ 13 weeks D&C
    Oct 2013 -  BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2013 -  BFP  DD Born 8/16/14 - Cholestasis at 36+5
    Nov 2016 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2016 - BFP  DD Born 6/19/17 @ 28+4 Severe Pre-E, IUGR, Cholestasis 
    Nov 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2019 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    DH Vasectomy Aug 2019
    Feb 2022 - TTC #4 with IVF - RPL testing
    Protein C and S Deficiency - Blood Thinners for Treatment - Maybe we don't know!
    June 2022 - IVF - 2 embryos - 1 transferred 6/22/22 - Transfer Failed
    July 2022 - FET - cancelled
    Dec 2022 - Vasectomy reversal
    June 2023 - DH diagnosed with Brain Tumor - TTC put on indefinite hold
    January 2025 - Surprise BFP! Due 9/13/2025 - CP
    January 2025 - Trying Again



  • edited May 2022
    @tryingktogku usually (as with @mambo5-2) BCP are used not only to control the date at which a treatment might begin, but also to stop the recruitment of antral follicles and "deaden" the hormonal cycle with a steady dose of combined hormones. In your case, the goal seems to be to produce a stable plateau of hormones that can then be withdrawn, creating a crash that will provoke a bleed. In the former situation (e.g. Mambo's), forgetting pills would potentially allow a follicle to "escape" and start growing, producing its own hormones, and resulting in a rogue ovulation or a cyst. In your situation, it would seem that the main issue would be ensuring that you have a stable level of hormones in your system to provoke the desired hormonal cratering. 1 or 2 missed pills seems like it probably wouldn't make a difference, but i can't say that for sure.
    @mambo5-2 welcome to the weirdly taking BCP to try to get preggers club! i'm always so weirded out picking up my prescription and having to bite my tongue when i find myself tempted to explain to the pharmacist (who clearly does not care) that these are not for that it seems like they're for.
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan,I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 7; 6 days of stims. 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast. 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow.
    Dec -21, standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 5; 11 days of stims. retrieval yields 5, 4M, 2 reach day-6 blast (4AB & 4BB). 1 low-level mosaic (chr. 3 deletion), 1 complex abnormal.
    Feb '22 FET (low-level mosaic): CP.
    May '22 egg retrieval, lupron flare protocol. HGH priming for 1 month before stims; md lupron 20/20u daily; menopur 225, follistim 225, 10k trigger after 8 days of stims; AFC 10; 13 retrieved; 10 mature; 8 fertilized. All frozen at 2PN for later thaw, grow, and biopsy.
    July '22 egg retrieval same protocol: 9 days of stims; AFC 8; 10 retrieved, 8 mature, 4 fertilized and frozen.
    Sept '22 ER same protocol: AFC 10; 12 retrieved, 11 mature, 11 fertilized.
    From the 3 retrievals, 7 survived to day 5-6 blastocyst, from which I have 2 normal embryos!
    Jan 20, Fully medicated FET, baby aspirin, dexamethasone, acupuncture, and as much woo as I can stand (which isn't very much). BFN.
    July 23, Natural FET + baby aspirin. BFN.
  • @optimistgardener I was just like so confused and I was like of all the meds I've picked up in the last couple of weeks the BCP were free. 
    Spoiler for History 

    Me - 30 DH - 32

    April 2009 - 8+ week MC
    January 2012 - BFP - DS Born 10/21/2012
    May 2013 - BFP - Twins MMC @ 13 weeks D&C
    Oct 2013 -  BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2013 -  BFP  DD Born 8/16/14 - Cholestasis at 36+5
    Nov 2016 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2016 - BFP  DD Born 6/19/17 @ 28+4 Severe Pre-E, IUGR, Cholestasis 
    Nov 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2019 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    DH Vasectomy Aug 2019
    Feb 2022 - TTC #4 with IVF - RPL testing
    Protein C and S Deficiency - Blood Thinners for Treatment - Maybe we don't know!
    June 2022 - IVF - 2 embryos - 1 transferred 6/22/22 - Transfer Failed
    July 2022 - FET - cancelled
    Dec 2022 - Vasectomy reversal
    June 2023 - DH diagnosed with Brain Tumor - TTC put on indefinite hold
    January 2025 - Surprise BFP! Due 9/13/2025 - CP
    January 2025 - Trying Again



  • Now I have a question for my IVF friends.  I have my ultrasound June 3 and I'm trying to figure out when my injections start (calendar is in the mail per clinic) we are supposed to go out of town that weekend and I have to figure out if I need to cancel the trip or just take meds with me. 
    Spoiler for History 

    Me - 30 DH - 32

    April 2009 - 8+ week MC
    January 2012 - BFP - DS Born 10/21/2012
    May 2013 - BFP - Twins MMC @ 13 weeks D&C
    Oct 2013 -  BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2013 -  BFP  DD Born 8/16/14 - Cholestasis at 36+5
    Nov 2016 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2016 - BFP  DD Born 6/19/17 @ 28+4 Severe Pre-E, IUGR, Cholestasis 
    Nov 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2019 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    DH Vasectomy Aug 2019
    Feb 2022 - TTC #4 with IVF - RPL testing
    Protein C and S Deficiency - Blood Thinners for Treatment - Maybe we don't know!
    June 2022 - IVF - 2 embryos - 1 transferred 6/22/22 - Transfer Failed
    July 2022 - FET - cancelled
    Dec 2022 - Vasectomy reversal
    June 2023 - DH diagnosed with Brain Tumor - TTC put on indefinite hold
    January 2025 - Surprise BFP! Due 9/13/2025 - CP
    January 2025 - Trying Again



  • @optimistgardener that is super helpful thank you! I also apparently just seriously miscounted and did not end up missing one so crisis averted lol 

    @mambo5-2 I have a hard time taking the BCP to TTC because it’s likely what caused my PCOS (was on it from my first period) but yes it so weird taking BCP to TTGKU
  • @mambo5-2 what @inthewoods23 said. it's standard protocol to start meds the day after your baseline ultrasound. my ultrasound was yesterday and i started shots this morning, with injections every 12 hours until trigger for the next week and a half or so.
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan,I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 7; 6 days of stims. 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast. 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow.
    Dec -21, standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 5; 11 days of stims. retrieval yields 5, 4M, 2 reach day-6 blast (4AB & 4BB). 1 low-level mosaic (chr. 3 deletion), 1 complex abnormal.
    Feb '22 FET (low-level mosaic): CP.
    May '22 egg retrieval, lupron flare protocol. HGH priming for 1 month before stims; md lupron 20/20u daily; menopur 225, follistim 225, 10k trigger after 8 days of stims; AFC 10; 13 retrieved; 10 mature; 8 fertilized. All frozen at 2PN for later thaw, grow, and biopsy.
    July '22 egg retrieval same protocol: 9 days of stims; AFC 8; 10 retrieved, 8 mature, 4 fertilized and frozen.
    Sept '22 ER same protocol: AFC 10; 12 retrieved, 11 mature, 11 fertilized.
    From the 3 retrievals, 7 survived to day 5-6 blastocyst, from which I have 2 normal embryos!
    Jan 20, Fully medicated FET, baby aspirin, dexamethasone, acupuncture, and as much woo as I can stand (which isn't very much). BFN.
    July 23, Natural FET + baby aspirin. BFN.
  • @inthewoods23 and @optimistgardener perfect I will take them with me.  DH will definitely be able to help me with them.  We are staying in a hotel in St. Louis so shouldn't be a problem. 

    Spoiler for History 

    Me - 30 DH - 32

    April 2009 - 8+ week MC
    January 2012 - BFP - DS Born 10/21/2012
    May 2013 - BFP - Twins MMC @ 13 weeks D&C
    Oct 2013 -  BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2013 -  BFP  DD Born 8/16/14 - Cholestasis at 36+5
    Nov 2016 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Dec 2016 - BFP  DD Born 6/19/17 @ 28+4 Severe Pre-E, IUGR, Cholestasis 
    Nov 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2017 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    Jan 2019 - BFP MC @ 6 weeks
    DH Vasectomy Aug 2019
    Feb 2022 - TTC #4 with IVF - RPL testing
    Protein C and S Deficiency - Blood Thinners for Treatment - Maybe we don't know!
    June 2022 - IVF - 2 embryos - 1 transferred 6/22/22 - Transfer Failed
    July 2022 - FET - cancelled
    Dec 2022 - Vasectomy reversal
    June 2023 - DH diagnosed with Brain Tumor - TTC put on indefinite hold
    January 2025 - Surprise BFP! Due 9/13/2025 - CP
    January 2025 - Trying Again



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