I feel like this is a sign from God/the universe whatever you believe in that I need to starting accepting this baby. All this talk of “not feeling connected” I felt very connected when I thought I was experiencing a loss
@wigglyicecream I'm so sorry you went through that this morning and so glad baby is okay! I 100% get feeling connected when you think there may be a loss. If I let myself go gown the rabbit hole of a possible loss, it just devastes me inside.
@wigglyicecream I’ve come to this conclusion too. As much as I tell myself I’m not connecting I know I’ll be devastated if we have a loss. I’m trying my best to choose joy over fear because if my worst fears come true I don’t want to look back and regret not celebrating the weeks I’ve had with this baby. So glad to hear little one is still doing ok in there 💜
Me: 35 H: 35 Married: 4/5/13 "You know that place between sleep and awake, that place where you can still remember dreaming? That's where I will always love you. That's where I'll be waiting." ~Peter Pan
*TW*
BFP #1: 11/12/12 EDD 7/25/13 Baby boy: 7/27/13 BFP #2: 10/29/17 MMC dx @ 9 weeks BFP #3: 2/2/18 MC 2/7/18 BFP #4: 3/2/18 MC 3/9/18 RPL testing and hysteroscopy: all normal BFP #5: 4/1/18 MMC dx @ 14 weeks ----> genetically normal girl Hysteroscopy to remove scar tissue 9/28 BFP #6 11/5/18 EDD 7/20/19 Rainbow baby girl born 7/23/19 BFP #7 12/8/2021 EDD 8/22/2022
@wigglyicecream I was so scared to open this thread but almost yelled OH THANK GOD!! When I read your update!!! I am so glad that you and baby are doing well! I love your realization and it is so true!I have to start thinking that way as well! ❤️
Thank you everybody for your support. I’m trying to take solace in that I just saw a wiggly baby with a very strong HB and trying to know the bleeding can take a bit to subside. @and_peggy now I know first hand the mind F you have been going through with a happy baby and bleeding.
@wigglyicecream so glad things are good. I have a SCH I’ve had a lot of bright red bleeding twice so far, the last time with a clot the size of a golf ball. It’s the scariest thing ever seeing blood during pregnancy, it plays so much on your emotions and your mind. I pray for a successful rest of your pregnancy 💕
@amberrmariee20 has your SCH healed yet? What has OBGYN done for treatment? They told me at Urgent care it’s 3cm which sounds small but not compared to baby at 11 weeks which is only a cm and change bigger. This is terrifying and I’m so lucky to have this group and other moms that are or have gone through it.
OK So, I am back. I am going to tell you a bit about my situation. This is a good story, but I think I am very very lucky and don't want to give anyone false hope.
I knew exactly when I ovulated (1 week late, which is normal for PCOS), which was confirmed by a coincidental ultrasound and a positive LH strip a few days later. I know I was 8w6d when I went for my first ultrasound.
I went to a highly recommended clinic in Buenos Aires. She couldn't find a heartbeat at all, the baby was measuring CRL 15mm at 7w6d (one week behind). The ultrasound doctor (yes, they are full doctors specialising in ultrasounds, and she worked at a women's clinic) she asked me if I was bleeding or cramping... I said no. I was shocked, she said to come back in a week to confirm the viability of the pregnancy.
I spent the next two days in bed crying because I know what it means to be that size with no heartbeat... even if my ovulation date was completely off by one week and it was a week smaller.
Well, I went to a different clinic 5 days later to confirm what was going on. The SECOND the ultrasound was on... I see a perfectly healthy baby with all of its arms and legs kicking around... and a heartbeat. The baby is measuring 29mm at 9w6d (a bit ahead now) and heartbeat of 188bpm.
The new doctor had no explanation for me other than a couple questions... are you sure you didn't do the ultrarsound on DEC 20 not JAN 20??? are you sure she didn't give you the wrong report??? I'm sure, I was there.
I have NO idea what happened, but I am absolutely shocked that something like this could have occurred. So, I'm back in the august 2022 moms community and I'm rooting for all of you.
@hola_knotties Wow! Welcome back, and that is such a bizarre story! I have no idea what went on at that first ultrasound but I'm sure I would have been suspicious with that size measurement knowing that was the right age/size for ovulation. I'm sorry you had to go through all that anxiety and I'm happy your baby is doing well!!
Wow that’s wild @hola_knotties! So glad to hear baby is ok, hoping the rest of pregnancy goes smoothly for you
Me: 35 H: 35 Married: 4/5/13 "You know that place between sleep and awake, that place where you can still remember dreaming? That's where I will always love you. That's where I'll be waiting." ~Peter Pan
*TW*
BFP #1: 11/12/12 EDD 7/25/13 Baby boy: 7/27/13 BFP #2: 10/29/17 MMC dx @ 9 weeks BFP #3: 2/2/18 MC 2/7/18 BFP #4: 3/2/18 MC 3/9/18 RPL testing and hysteroscopy: all normal BFP #5: 4/1/18 MMC dx @ 14 weeks ----> genetically normal girl Hysteroscopy to remove scar tissue 9/28 BFP #6 11/5/18 EDD 7/20/19 Rainbow baby girl born 7/23/19 BFP #7 12/8/2021 EDD 8/22/2022
@hola_knotties I’m so happy that this turned out to be a positive story and you have a happy healthy wiggly baby. I have no idea what could have happened at the first US and I’m glad you went and got a second one. Welcome back to our group
@wigglyicecream my first bleed was December 16th, my 2nd bleed was Jan 9. They told me Jan 9th it got smaller then it was on December 16th, but still there. They told me it wasn’t a big bleed, they never gave me measurements though. But I also passed a lot of blood and a clot on Jan 9th. The doctor said it can be common for hematomas to pass clots, especially if they were bigger, and are shrinking. As far as I know I still have my hematoma, I was told no strenuous activity, no working out anymore, and no heavy lifting. They said I can still have sex, and normal everyday activities. I see my doctor on the 27th I’m going to see if she will send me for another ultrasound to check the size or lack there of (praying) .
@wigglyicecream I had one with my last pregnancy that also got smaller over time and just sort of went away. Thinking of you and @amberrmariee20 and everyone else who is experiencing this as these things are just so stressful.
@hola_knotties Welcome back! I'm so happy to hear your good news. I hope you get to take some time to yourself after what sounds to be a very stressful experience!
I am still reeling, but I have to say goodbye to you all now. At my 10 week intake on Tuesday they couldn’t find a heartbeat on the Doppler and my worst fears were confirmed by ultrasound this morning. When this is over they want to do some recurrent loss testing, but I really don’t know if we’ll try again.
I have loved interacting and sharing this pregnancy experience with all of you. I wish you all have the very best possible pregnancy and delivery. You are all amazing mamas and mamas-to-be. I want to especially thank the PGAL ladies who have been so incredibly supportive.
Question for those that have been in this place before and who feel comfortable sharing: We are expecting 2 feet of snow tomorrow so nothing can be done right now, but I’ll need to make a decision early next week, how did you decide between misoprosol and D&C? I’m torn, but I know I can’t wait for it to happen naturally. Thanks a lot.
@maggiemadeit oh sweetheart I am so sorry to hear this. I was hoping for different news for you at the US. I’m heartbroken for you and you will be missed in our group. Both of my losses as soon as I found out I immediately opted for a D&C. i didn’t like the idea of still having a baby inside of me that wasn’t growing anymore. The thought was too much. Please feel free to pm me if you need any additional support through this.
hi @maggiemadeit i'm so sorry, please feel free to DM me. i had my d&c on Monday. i've been checking on this board and my heart breaks for you.
i will put in spoiler for those who do not want to read, TW D&C:
that being said, i adore my OB and truly trust her with my life. i think you've had a child before? vaginally? when she went over misoprostol with me she said that the feedback she gets from patients who have had children vaginally is that it is very painful, and that it is a lot to manage at home. she said most women get to the point with blood where they are debating going to the ER and that does mean it's about to be over, but that's the level of what you are managing at home. it is also 80% effective, anecdotally i have read/heard about a lot of women who go back for their follow up and then still have to get a d&c b/c they didnt pass everything. quite frankly, it just sounds really traumatic. and i have a toddler at home, and i just didn't want that. sadly, my best friend from college had 2 d&c's in 2020, so as much as i never thought i would wind up here i did have her experience in the back of my mind. my practice does d&c's out of the womens' surgical center on the hospital campus, and under general anesthesia. between arrival and surgery it was about 90 mins, about 30 of it i had to do alone, with my husband out in the waiting area - not gonna lie, leaving him was brutal emotionally. every staff person, nurse, anesthesiologist i encountered was nothing but amazing, caring and warm considering the circumstances. from my chart/discharge i was under for about 30 mins total, the nurse held my hand while i cried and then nothing. i had never had anesthesia before, so i was absolutely nervous. about 40 mins after the procedure i was conscious enough to get my phone out and text my husband. he was then brought back to PACU once i was fully awake. i was able to get dressed and about 50 mins later be discharged to home. (so 3.5 hours total.) my OB warned me i would be pretty loopy, i definitely couldn't drive, but was walking with zero issues. we got breakfast, b/c truthfully i was hungry after 12+ hours of no food and i went home and napped. the IV meds wore off later in the evening and i felt sore and had a burning sensation. i actually called the on call OB, and while not on my discharge paperwork this is common due to the antiseptic wash they have to use. i showered and it went down some, felt almost like a UTI feeling. by tuesday midday it was gone. as for recovery, i took it easy tuesday - but didn't even need ibuprofen. my bleeding was very minimal (especially compared to my 5w loss in sept). i had taken off weds as well, b/c my OB warned i might not feel great, but after 48 hours was cleared to exercise... and i felt well enough to ride the peloton weds. as my friend and i talked, and not everyone feels like this, with the d&c it was over. i knew it was over, it wasn't dragging it out. and for me i couldn't handle dragging it out. i needed the physical aspect to be over, so that i can work on the mental aspect. we also submitted for chromosomal testing, and the d&c made that the easiest way to do it. it'll take about 3 weeks to know if there was a chromosomal abnormality, or if we need to investigate a potential issue with me and/or MH. i hope this helps in your decision, sending lots of love your way.
@anniemarie887 thank you for checking in on our group and know we miss you greatly. I’ve been lurking in TTGP to check in on you. You are a well respected woman in this community and I know I miss your input and heart felt answers greatly. Hoping the best for you and what’s to come in the future. ❤️
@maggiemadeit oh my heart is absolutely breaking for you. I am so, so sorry! Please be sure to take care of yourself and take all the help and support offered to you. Sending you the biggest hugs ❤️
With my first loss I had brown discharge for a few weeks. They got me in for an early US and said I was 6 weeks along and baby had a heart beat. It was more than a week behind but I didn’t know that could be a problem since it was my first pregnancy. The night before my first prenatal appointment I started bleeding red and went to urgent care. They couldn’t find a heartbeat anymore and told me to keep my appointment the next day. At that appointment my OB told me they do low risk D&Cs in the office if it was something I was interested in. I jumped at the chance bc as I said before I didn’t want to be pregnant for one more min. I left that office and went to the other one. They didn’t sedate me, but did numb my cervix and did try procedure. On a scale of 1-10 I would give the discomfort a 7, it was definitely not great but I don’t regret the decision.
My second D&C was a lot more complicated. It came after finding out my baby was ectopic. That one was done under general anesthesia. There’s more to that story but not pertinent.
Either way I would agree with Annie and get a D&C so you don’t have to manage the bleeding at home on top of emotional trauma.
@maggiemadeit I’m devastated to hear this. Please know you have a special place in our hearts here. Thinking of you as you go through all the physical things, in addition to the emotional aspect.
I took misoprostal for a 12 week loss and it didn’t work. I cramped for a few hours and then nothing happened. I scheduled a d&c and that took care of it. I did have some post d&c complications that landed me in the ER. That said, I would still opt for the d&c again if I had to. The complications were blood clots the size of softballs. So for me, I might have actually bled out with misoprostal and feel grateful it didn’t work.
@maggiemadeit I am so incredibly sorry for your loss. I'll be sending all the good vibes your way for peace, your mental health, and healing for your family.
TW - misoprostol experience
I took misoprostol with my first loss (blighted ovum discovered at 7 weeks, did not pass until 10 weeks). I took it twice and did not pass everything on my own and ended up in the ER to have the rest removed. It was incredibly painful.
With another loss at 9 weeks last fall my OB wanted to schedule a D&C. I was positive for Covid at the time, so the hospital required me to wait through a quarantine period before scheduling a D&C. I ended up starting the loss at home naturally and then had an emergency D&C at the hospital.
If you have the option, I would definitely choose a D&C. It is over much more quickly, is more thorough and is less painful.
Re: ***TW*** Spotting/Bleeding/Threatened Loss Support Thread
Married: 4/5/13
"You know that place between sleep and awake,
that place where you can still remember dreaming?
That's where I will always love you.
That's where I'll be waiting."
~Peter Pan
*TW*
BFP #2: 10/29/17 MMC dx @ 9 weeks
BFP #3: 2/2/18 MC 2/7/18
BFP #4: 3/2/18 MC 3/9/18
RPL testing and hysteroscopy: all normal
BFP #5: 4/1/18 MMC dx @ 14 weeks ----> genetically normal girl
Hysteroscopy to remove scar tissue 9/28
BFP #6 11/5/18 EDD 7/20/19
BFP #7 12/8/2021 EDD 8/22/2022
5.5.16 | 8.14.17 | 1.30.19
5.5.16 | 8.14.17 | 1.30.19
I knew exactly when I ovulated (1 week late, which is normal for PCOS), which was confirmed by a coincidental ultrasound and a positive LH strip a few days later. I know I was 8w6d when I went for my first ultrasound.
I went to a highly recommended clinic in Buenos Aires. She couldn't find a heartbeat at all, the baby was measuring CRL 15mm at 7w6d (one week behind). The ultrasound doctor (yes, they are full doctors specialising in ultrasounds, and she worked at a women's clinic) she asked me if I was bleeding or cramping... I said no. I was shocked, she said to come back in a week to confirm the viability of the pregnancy.
I spent the next two days in bed crying because I know what it means to be that size with no heartbeat... even if my ovulation date was completely off by one week and it was a week smaller.
Well, I went to a different clinic 5 days later to confirm what was going on. The SECOND the ultrasound was on... I see a perfectly healthy baby with all of its arms and legs kicking around... and a heartbeat. The baby is measuring 29mm at 9w6d (a bit ahead now) and heartbeat of 188bpm.
The new doctor had no explanation for me other than a couple questions... are you sure you didn't do the ultrarsound on DEC 20 not JAN 20??? are you sure she didn't give you the wrong report??? I'm sure, I was there.
I have NO idea what happened, but I am absolutely shocked that something like this could have occurred. So, I'm back in the august 2022 moms community and I'm rooting for all of you.
Married: 4/5/13
"You know that place between sleep and awake,
that place where you can still remember dreaming?
That's where I will always love you.
That's where I'll be waiting."
~Peter Pan
*TW*
BFP #2: 10/29/17 MMC dx @ 9 weeks
BFP #3: 2/2/18 MC 2/7/18
BFP #4: 3/2/18 MC 3/9/18
RPL testing and hysteroscopy: all normal
BFP #5: 4/1/18 MMC dx @ 14 weeks ----> genetically normal girl
Hysteroscopy to remove scar tissue 9/28
BFP #6 11/5/18 EDD 7/20/19
BFP #7 12/8/2021 EDD 8/22/2022
i will put in spoiler for those who do not want to read, TW D&C:
edit to just make a few sentences more concise.
I’m going to spoiler the details of my two D&Cs
My second D&C was a lot more complicated. It came after finding out my baby was ectopic. That one was done under general anesthesia. There’s more to that story but not pertinent.
5.5.16 | 8.14.17 | 1.30.19
TW - misoprostol experience
With another loss at 9 weeks last fall my OB wanted to schedule a D&C. I was positive for Covid at the time, so the hospital required me to wait through a quarantine period before scheduling a D&C. I ended up starting the loss at home naturally and then had an emergency D&C at the hospital.
If you have the option, I would definitely choose a D&C. It is over much more quickly, is more thorough and is less painful.