
**This is a general trigger warning that CP, miscarriage / spontaneous abortion, selective abortion due to medical complications, and / or stillbirth may be mentioned.**
Introduce yourself and anything you think is important: number of loss(es), when you had the loss(es), diagnosis/conditions surrounding loss, etc.
Status:
How are things going? What is something that you are struggling with and/or what is going well?
Any testing coming up/any recent results?
Questions?
GTKY: You can have any dessert in the world right this second - what do you pick?
Re: TTCAL w/o 11/15
Introduce yourself and anything you think is important: number of loss(es), when you had the loss(es), diagnosis/conditions surrounding loss, etc. MC @ 8 weeks in Aug. 2021
Status: WTO
How are things going? What is something that you are struggling with and/or what is going well? I really thought this last cycle was going to be it because of good timing and (obviously misplaced) SS. Disappointed not to be one of those magical “you’re more fertile right after a MC” women, but trying to take a deep breath and be patient.
Any testing coming up/any recent results? Nope, just playing the calendar game of anticipating O and planning timing around Thanksgiving plans.
Questions? Nope
GTKY: You can have any dessert in the world right this second - what do you pick? I have a sweet tooth so this changes often, but right now I’d go for some crème brulee.
Married 10/28/17
Our TTC Journey
Team Green turned Team Blue 10/15/18
TTC #2 January '21
BFP June '21
MMC/Blighted Ovum that led to D&C July '21
Jan '22 - started IF testing
BFP Jan '22
MMC/Blighted Ovum that led to D&C Feb '22
BFP May '22
@tessiesmom26 same here with taking a break if it doesn't happen this cycle. We have stuff in September/October next year and it would be the worst time to have a baby for us. But then, do I want a Christmas baby? Could be a long break.
@starkette Status just means WTO, TWW, benched, etc. I hate that we all have that disappointment, but there is small comfort in being here together at least.
@tessiesmom26 that sucks about your cousin's announcement. Just remember that your struggle is independent of hers and it's okay to feel what you need to feel about it but don't let it put more pressure on you. I know that's easier said then done.
@starkette glad you got the okay to start trying again! I think a Christmas baby could be fun!
Married 07/2012
DD born 07/2014
DD2 born 10/2018
DS born 10/2022
IF history:
TTC #2 since January 2016
June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
@tessiesmom26 just here to say i think it's good to feel your emotions, i think we've turned way too far into this must always find the happy/toxic positivity culture. it's totally ok to not always be ok.
@starkette mmmm disney churros are the best! i am of the there is no perfect time of a have a baby, and you should not schedule around other ppl, but if you are making that decision for you that's different.
@shortstack930 fingers crossed your back down to 0, i did not take meds, but i'm glad your dr is monitoring you closely. TW in spoiler D&C/repeat loss
Introduce yourself and anything you think is important: number of loss(es), when you had the loss(es),
diagnosis/conditions surrounding loss, etc. CP in Sept 21
We've only ever gotten pregnant through IVF - 2 FETs, both resulting in MC (MMC 11w, MC 5w2d), plus recurrent implantation failure of the other 2 transfers
Status: My full update on this is over in the IF thread, but we're at a crossroads right now. We'll either do another retrieval next cycle or move on to another FET.
How are things going? What is something that you are struggling with and/or what is going well? My loss brain thinks we need more embryos because that is all we've ever known. But we are also working with another RE who believes he can get to the root of our issues. I just have a really hard time believing that any of it will result in our rainbow. On the other hand, this is exactly what we wanted and we are absolutely ready to move on, so I'm really trying to navigate around this gaping hole in my heart and put my trust the new RE.
Any testing coming up/any recent results? Hopefully going in this week for an endometrial biopsy to check for endometritis (I think this is called an Alice test). Unsure if we're doing the endometrial microbiome test (Emma) as well.
Questions? How do you learn to trust your body again after so much loss? I'm so scared I'll be let down again.
GTKY: You can have any dessert in the world right this second - what do you pick? Hawaiian shave ice. There's a stand in Waikiki that puts a scoop of macnut ice cream in the middle, and uses all fresh fruit purees for flavouring instead of high fructose corn syrup and it is to die for. Even though I'm currently shivering at my desk with a blanket and a heater, this is the first thing that came to mind.
TTC History:
Me: 36 MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017
Aug '18: PCOS dx
Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil
Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN
Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN. Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)
Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.
Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.
Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w
Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d.
May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN.
June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between.
Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal
Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic
Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex
Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP
Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN
Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin.
Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal.
June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.
July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN.
Sep '22: Taking a break
Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed.
Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23
@starkette I'm so sorry for your loss. Glad your HCG is back down to 0 and you're not left in beta limbo. I've been there, and it's awful.
@tessiesmom26 oh I hear you on the announcements. I had a doozy of an announcement last Thursday too, plus a birth announcement, and it really brought everything crashing down on me. I felt like I was doing so good with moving on but it was such a punch in the gut.
@shortstack930 I said this over in the IF thread too, but I didn't take anything specifically to bring my HCG down but often that is because there is still retained tissue so the usual course of action is either Cytotec, aka misoprostol, or a D&C (usually if you were further along though), or like abjm said, just waiting it out. Mine took several weeks to go back down to 0.
TTC History:
Me: 36 MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017
Aug '18: PCOS dx
Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil
Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN
Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN. Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)
Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.
Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.
Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w
Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d.
May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN.
June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between.
Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal
Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic
Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex
Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP
Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN
Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin.
Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal.
June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.
July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN.
Sep '22: Taking a break
Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed.
Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23
@anniemarie887 I’m glad you can see a light at the end of the tunnel. Hope your stress lessens soon! I’ll be curious how you like the Ava after wearing it for a while.
@kiki047 I wish I could speak into trusting your body again, but even after a single loss I’m not sure I know how to do that. I think we will just have to help hold one another up as we navigate the loss of the “certainty” that might have come with the first BFP. Sending you lots of good vibes as you make the hard decisions about your plans for the upcoming cycle(s). The shave ice sounds amazing!
@kiki047 you're definitely at a tough decision but I think I'm leaning towards team do a FET and see what happens. If your new RE thinks he can make it work then I think it's worth a try. I can't imagine doing back to back retrievals like that and I know you must be so tired and ready to move on.
Married 07/2012
DD born 07/2014
DD2 born 10/2018
DS born 10/2022
IF history:
TTC #2 since January 2016
June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
@shortstack930 I'm sorry your betas are being uncooperative. Mine took a long time to come down after my first mc, though I was much further along-- it was nearly three months until I got a period. As long as they were dropping my doctors didn't intervene. It's very unlikely you will need a D&C-- it's much more likely they will give you misoprostol, which, just a warning, is effing terrible and gives you horrible cramping and GI symptoms, but it does work. I'm crossing my fingers your betas will decline without intervention, and you can just move on from this to the next FET. But so many hugs--- miscarriages are terrible enough without these weird after-effects.
BFP 11/30/2017 | MMC 12/31/2017
BFP 6/22/2018 | CP 6/27/2018
BFP 10/5/2018 | EDD 6/14/2019
Baby girl born 6/19/19
TTC #2 May 2020-November 2021
BFP 7/18/2020 | MonoDi Twins | MMC 9/10/2020
BFP 11/7/2020 | CP 11/9/2020
RE Consult January 2021 | Dx "borderline DOR"/RPL
IVF with PGT:
Standard Antagonist:
ER #1 3/27/2021 7R | 5M | 3F | 2B | 1 PGT-A Normal, 1 low-level mosaic
ER #2 4/22/2021 10R | 7M | 3F | 2B | 0 normal, 2 aneuploid
ER #3 5/19/2021 2R | 1M | 0F
Estrogen Priming Antagonist:
ER #4 7/10/2021 5R | 4M | 3F | 1B | 1 PGT-A Normal
Duostim (Standard Antagonist):
ER #5 9/22/2021 13R | 11M | 8F | 5B | 2 PGT-A Normal, 1 low-level mosaic, 2 aneuploid
ER #6 10/9/2021 9R | 6M | 4 F | 1B | 1 aneuploid
FET #1 11/5/2021 | EDD 7/24/2022
Baby boy born 7/19/22
TTC #3 since May 2023 (ntnp)
IVF Started Fall 2023 (Standard Antagonist)
ER #7 10/6/2023 | 9R | 6M | 5F | 3B | 2 aneuploid, 1 high-level mosaic
ER #8 10/31/2023 | 5R | 4M | 3F | 1B | 1 PGT-A Normal
FET #2 11/27/23 | CP (bHCG = 8)
FET #3 planned Jan 2024
Married 07/2012
DD born 07/2014
DD2 born 10/2018
DS born 10/2022
IF history:
TTC #2 since January 2016
June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22