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IF Testing and Treatment w/o 10/18



This is a place for those of us who have already started TTC, but have started infertility testing and/or treatments. You can express your thoughts, feelings, and frustrations on infertility. TTC can be a long journey naturally, then add in the difficulties associated with infertility, and it becomes a whole new ball game. The road to infertility can be lonely, frustrating, and complicated, so let's make this a place where we can vent, ask questions, and support one another. Feel free to resurrect this thread at any point in the week if you have something to say. Treat this as an ongoing conversation.

Diagnosis (if you've been):  

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):  

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):  

How are things going?:  

Any questions?:  

GTKY: What would be your go-to karaoke/singing alone in the shower song? 

TTC History:

Me: 34  MH: 37, TTC since Dec 2017

Aug '18: PCOS dx

Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil

Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN

Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)

Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil) 

Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.

Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.

Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w                                                  

Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d. 

May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN. 

June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI for a new IVF cycle

Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal

Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic

Nov '21: WFAF to schedule endometrial biopsy so we can move on to FET

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Re: IF Testing and Treatment w/o 10/18

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  • @kiki75 great follie results. Sounds like you got a good plan going. Fx for your ER!

    @bumblebee0210 my FET was very similar. Just estrace until PIO started. I didn’t do any other testing either. My RE never mentioned it to me. I’m assuming they only do if it seems necessary. Fx you don’t lose any precious embryos!


    Diagnosis (if you've been):  Unexplained secondary IF and RPL, PCOS 

    Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):  waiting on AF for testing 

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):  I think AF should be coming this week so I can call and schedule my bloodwork and saline Sono hopefully late oct/early nov. 

    How are things going?: good.    if the timing works out and it’s all clear I’m probably looking at Dec or Jan FET. Which is exciting that it could be so soonish. But I worry about the holidays messing things up but even still Jan isn’t that far off either. 

    Any questions?:  

    GTKY: What would be your go-to karaoke/singing alone in the shower song? 
    Probably Roar by Katy Perry I have loved that song for a long time. It’s always made me feel empowered after my divorce. 

    TTC#1 - March 2013

    BFP 8/9/13 - EDD 4/14/14 - DS born 4/23/14

    TTC#2 November 2015

    Dx: Secondary IF June 2016

    Medicated IUI cycle#1- Clomid+IUI -1/15/17 -BFN

    Break Mid 2017 - Resumed TTC December 2018

    "She believed she could so she did..."

    Medicated IUI cycle#2- Femara 5mg+IUI 12/22/18 - BFP 1/4/19 - MMC 2/1/19

    Saline Sono 3/15/19 - All Clear!

    Medicated IUI cycle#3- Femara 7.5mg+IUI 3/28/19-BFN

    Medicated IUI cycle#4- Femara 5mg+Gonal F 50iu+IUI 4/27/19- BFP 5/11/19 - MMC 6/12/19 - D&C 6/14/19-

    Incomplete M/C Repeat D&C - 7/3/19 -Testing concluded baby was genetically normal  :'(

    Dx: Unexplained RPL July 2019 - Tested + as carrier for Usher Syndrome & Familial Mediterranean Fever 

    Saline Sono 8/7/19 - Mostly Clear! All systems go for IVF#1 

    But will need a repeat Saline Sono between ER and FET

    IVF #1 - Antagonist Protocol - 8/17/19

    ER#1 8/27/19 - 12R, 6F, 4 biopsied+frozen! (3d5blasts + 1d6blast)- 2 PGS normal embabies!

    Saline Sono 9/13/19 - All Clear! Onto FET Prep#1

    FET#1 - 4AA -10/4/19 - BFP 10/14/19 - EDD - 6/21/20 -Beta#1-10dp5dt- 379 Beta#2-12dp5dt- 1007 Beta#3-14dp5dt- 2844

    DD born 6/15/20  <3

    zwink1LJMoon6brookert615
  • @bumblebee0210 the fact that I had so many in the 18-19mm range and still being pushed to Friday shocked me too. But I guess we'll see. Like just the fact that I went in yesterday and don't go back until Wednesday is enough to make me worried my ovaries will go rogue or something else can/will go wrong. Your FET protocol sounds pretty standard for a medicated FET. That's essentially the same as mine was too. US and BW on CD3, then lining check around CD10 but otherwise start progesterone suppositories 6 days prior to transfer, PIO 3 days prior, doxycycline for me for 3 days before, and continuing both estrogen and progesterone through to beta day (12dp5dt). 
    @hanshotfirst77 yay for moving forward! FX you can get your sono booked ASAP and everything looks clear to proceed with your FET. 

    TTC History:

    Me: 34  MH: 37, TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil

    Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)

    Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil) 

    Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.

    Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.

    Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w                                                  

    Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d. 

    May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN. 

    June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI for a new IVF cycle

    Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal

    Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic

    Nov '21: WFAF to schedule endometrial biopsy so we can move on to FET

  • Diagnosis (if you've been):  PCOS

    Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):  WTO (CD8)

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):  timed intercourse attempt #1 - had a baseline US 10/13 and things looked good so we started meds. 5 days of letrozole and clomid, finished yesterday. dexamethasone for the entire of the cycle, as well as increased metformin and synthroid doses. next US is on Friday to see when we trigger.

    How are things going?: pretty good. the dexamethasone makes it reallllly hard to sleep which sucks. and something about clomid makes me want nothing to do with my husband, which is a bit counterproductive haha. hes all sweet and cuddling me and im just like go awayyyyy hahaha. also, night sweats, ugh.

    Any questions?:  not right now!

    GTKY: What would be your go-to karaoke/singing alone in the shower song? it totally depends on what i've been hearing on the radio recently as to what song is in my head. recently its been Fancy Like by Walker Hayes, hahaha. 



    @kiki047 - i agree with what others have said, im surprised your RE is waiting when you have multiple 18+ follicles, but they know best! also, thats encouraging to have that many! sorry youre starting to feel it though....those dang pomegranates!

    @bumblebee0210 - i dont have any experience with FET but i can understand not wanting to lose any of those embryos you worked hard for! FX!

    @hanshotfirst77 - yay for getting things scheduled soon and getting things moving! the holidays always seem to mess things up a bit haha. hopefully it isnt too much of a difficulty!
    married to DH on March 15, 2018 <3 TTC since May 2018
    dx: PCOS, hypothroidism <3 tx: timed intercourse with meds (dexa, clomid, letrozole, metformin, trigger shots)
    First TTGP: 5/9/19 BFN, 6/21/19 BFN, 7/29/19 BFN, 8/1/19 started a break from tx, 11/16/19 surprised with a BFP! LO born 7/7/20
    Second TTGP: started meds for first cycle of tx on 10/13/21


    keikiloveLJMoon6kiki047acleverusername
  • @kiki047 my ovary hurts just thinking about all those ripe eggs you're lugging around right now. FX for a successful retrieval and, oof, maybe 2 more? that is A LOT of euploid embryos you're aiming at! Tell YH to read that article i posted from last week arguing that protocol, dose, etc., does not show a measurable relationship with euploidy rates. i think we all respond differently to different stim protocols but in the face of just a huge amount of noise at the cycle to cycle level i feel like we have to lean on the study results and try to trust them.
    @bumblebee0210 the FET protocol that they had planned for me until my PGT-A results this summer was, i gather, the sort of "deluxe" option, and included a down-regulation phase on BC and lupron before they hit me with the estrace and progesterone. i think the goal was to try to rein in any errant endometriosis stuff going on, just in case, before hand. if that's not one of the things you're worried about then a simple protocol seems fine. the mock transfer i did before my first retrieval was just the doc checking to make sure he could find his way into my cervix without trouble. i had gotten all geared up imagining it was some big thing and then he was done in 5 seconds and i was like, "i've been holding this full bladder for 8 hours and that's it!?" i guess they prefer not to discover that you've got a funky screwed-down-tight cervix while the embryo is literally hanging in the balance. if you've done a bunch of no-hitch IUIs or *TW* have gone through vaginal childbirth *end TW* it'll probably be easy peasy.
    @hanshotfirst77 i hope the sono gets scheduled soon and all is smooth sailing!
    @knockupthestock i know dexamethasone is a fairly standard thing for fertility applications but i'm always amazed when i see it prescribed in this context. my mom had to be on it during her cancer treatment to keep her body from like, freaking out and destroying itself in response to the chemo regimen, basically. and omg what a miserable drug. mania and no sleep for days and then you come off of it and it's miserable in a different way. i guess what i want to say here is be gentle with yourself while you're taking it. the side effects are really really real. plus clomid is no walk in the park either. good luck finding the inspiration you need to get the job done in spite of all that this cycle!
    @inthewoods23 true words on the getting used to having people up in your business again. i was just thinking how it's been months of blissful physical privacy since a doctor last had at me with a bunch of cold lube and an U/S wand.

    Diagnosis (if you've been):  eggs just a little wrinklier than last week but i'm trying to pretend my supplements are reversing time.

    Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):  WTO

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):  killing time with an at-home insem while i wait for a late nov. retrieval

    How are things going?:  just dandy.

    Any questions?:  not really

    GTKY: What would be your go-to karaoke/singing alone in the shower song? oh boy. ever since i was a kid i've loved Lyle Lovett's "If I had a boat." That's my solo road trip singing into the breeze song. So I guess it works too for a karaoke/shower context. But I am also a sucker for old-school hip hop so if I were throwing a raging house party (which I suspect is one of those "rear view window" things at this point) I'd kick things off with 50 Cent's in da club or maybe Tupac's California Love.
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan, I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast (1 was a slow-growing day 6 blast). 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow. Still prepping for a 2nd retrieval in late Nov.
    keikiloveinthewoods23LJMoon6acleverusername
  • @kiki047 those follicles sound very promising! I hope you're able to do your retrieval Friday. How soon would you start the stims for the next one?

    @bumblebee0210 your FET protocol sounds very similar to mine. I've been on estrogen patches and estradiol pills and then I have 6 days of progesterone before transfer. I did do a mock transfer but it was because I haven't done one in 3 years so they needed to measure stuff.

    @hanshotfirst77 so exciting that you could be transferring so soon!

    @knockupthestock I had all sorts of reactions to Clomid too. I hope you're able to get some rest soon without the night sweats!

    @inthewoods23 I'm so glad the saline sono results were normal!! I totally understand what you mean about not being used to people all up there--the first time I had a TV ultrasound this time around I had totally forgotten how uncomfortable it can be.

    @optimistgardener I'm glad you decided to go ahead with the at home insemination!


    Diagnosis (if you've been):  Endometriosis

    Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):  WTO

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):  FET this Friday!!!

    How are things going?:  I've gotten through my first few PIO shots. They're not terrible, but it was real fun yesterday morning trying to do it on my nondominant side in the bathroom at work. I'm excited for Friday but trying not to get my hopes too high just in case.

    Any questions?:  Thoughts on lifting restrictions after FET? The nurse at the RE had said just try not to lift more than 20 lbs for a few days at least which is fine because I'm off for the weekend after the FET but I'm worried about when I go to work next week and have to help lift patients up in bed. The RE said they'd give me a note but I really didn't want anyone at work to know about my situation just yet.

    GTKY: What would be your go-to karaoke/singing alone in the shower song? Probably Let It Go from Frozen or anything from RENT or Wicked.
    TTC History
    Me: 34 DH: 33
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    TTC#3 starting 07/2021

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks


    optimistgardeneracleverusernameLJMoon6
  • @keikilove i was just typing a response that pretty much equates to what @bumblebee0210 has said, and then something made me refresh my page. no apologies. you've got a lot going on.
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan, I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast (1 was a slow-growing day 6 blast). 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow. Still prepping for a 2nd retrieval in late Nov.
    bumblebee0210keikiloveacleverusername
  • @bumblebee0210 & @optimistgardener Aawww, thanks, friends! I appreciate it.💗

    ETA This tag that got erased: @hanshotfirst77 Hoping you are able to get all the testing done ASAP and that it’s green lights for you from here on out🚦 I just love your wedding songs & story. I remember it from your first time around here on TTGP way back when. I always associate your username with your wedding from that GTKY— I can’t remember if it was @inthewoods23 who came up with that GTKY where we all shared our wedding songs—but it was a fun one. Anyway, your wedding sounded epic! 


    optimistgardeneracleverusernamehanshotfirst77
  • inthewoods23inthewoods23 member
    edited October 19
    @keikilove hey friend! I definitely plan to do the appointment in the morning. Mostly so I can get it out of the way (plus I've heard some have taken a few hours with the boat load of tests they need to put in the system for you), but getting the phlembotomist while they're fresh and not burnt out is a good reason too!

    ETA - also yes that was probably a GTKY I came up with. Same with the one where we shared pics of our wedding dresses and shoes! And rings 😆
    History:
    Me: 32 DH: 34 | Together since 2007 | Married July 2016

    *TW*
    TTC #1 since 7.2017
    Dx: unexplained, low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
    IUI #1-3 all BFN
    IVF #1 | 6.11.19 | 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys
    FET #1 | 9.10.19 | BFN "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name"
    Loss, Receptiva, & ERA testing | all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET
    FET #2 | 3.31.20 | Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer
    2nd Opinion with another RE | 8.20.20 | Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago (with better count), decide on 9.16.20 to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle
    Surprise natural BFP! | 9.22.20 | MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks
    TTCAL naturally | starting 11.22.20
    Attempted antihistamine protocol | 6.18.21 | BFN
    The long shot "I think vaccines can help me get pregnant" protocol | Covid vaccine shot #1 7.30.21; shot #2 8.20.21
    Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist | 9.14.21
    Decidualization score biopsy | 10.1.21 | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended
    Saline sono | 10.15.21 | normal
    Bloodwork | 10.21.21 high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies
    BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22 B) | added supplemental progesterone and estrogen, prednisone, levothyroxine, and MTX to maintain pregnancy; more supplements pending genetic tests
    acleverusernamekeikilove
  • LJMoon6LJMoon6 member
    edited October 19

    @kiki047 Oh my gosh! You’re jugging right along. That’s weird that your RE isn’t telling you your numbers. But I’m glad you could sneak a peek! Pomegranate ovaries sounds so uncomfortable! But you’re so close. And I’m glad you’re going to be able to make your retreat.

    @bumblebee0210 Eek! Let’s go! I’m so excited for you to start the FET process.

    @hanshotfirst77 January will be here before you know it! These fall months always go by so fast for me.

    @knockupthestock I’ve seen a few people taking clomid and letrozole together. What’s the reasoning for that instead of just upping the dose of 1 or the other? (I also want nothing to do with MH and I feel so bad for him lol. You’re not alone!)

    @inthewoods23 So happy your saline sono was normal!! I don’t think I will ever get used to having people all up in my business lol. I’m also way overdue for a pap smear. The less people up there, the better at the moment.

    @optimistgardener I didn’t get to comment last week about your numbers being slightly better! Yay! Your supplements have to be helping!

    @shortstack930 Your FET is so close! Holy crap! At work could you just tell everyone that you pulled a muscle in your back? If you’re not ready to tell anyone, then you should be able to come up with an alternative excuse?

    @keikilove Hey girl. I hope you’re doing well and taking care of yourself (and thinking of YH too). Thank you for the information on letrozole! I haven’t messaged my clinic yet, but it’s looking like this cycle didn’t work either. So I’m trying to figure out what would be best moving forward. It’s weird that I have to advocate so hard for a change in protocol when my lining was clearly super thin. I’m going to try to find that second article you talked about (10 days at 2.5mg), because that sounds like it might be better. 5mg has made my lining super thin twice now.

     

    Diagnosis (if you've been):  Unexplained

     

    Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):  TWW, 11dpIUI and BFN

     

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):  This was our 3rd IUI.

     

    How are things going?:  Blah. Not as shocked by the BFN this morning. I just feel it in my heart that my lining was too thin, however much I told myself not to worry about it. Trying to decide if we’ll do one more cycle this year or take a break. I still need to email my clinic about changing my protocol. If they don’t agree then maybe I’ll go rogue.

     

    Any questions?:  I’ve been thinking a lot about our unexplained diagnosis. I know there are some doctors that think many patients with unexplained likely have endometriosis. Or silent endometriosis. When we first started this journey, that was the first thing I thought of because my mom had endometriosis soooo bad. But I don’t have any of the typical symptoms and my tubes are open. And laparoscopies aren’t common anymore, and they especially wouldn’t do one on someone who has no symptoms. Anyways, I guess I don’t really have a question. But just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this.

     

    GTKY: What would be your go-to karaoke/singing alone in the shower song? I’m not a big singer in general. I don’t think I’ve ever sang a song in the shower lol. And the only time I’ve sang karaoke is when I’m so drunk I don’t remember it lol.


    *TW* TTC history
    Me:32 DH:31
    Married: 8/2015

    TTC #1: 4/2017
    Testing: HSG, U/S, BW, and DH's SA all normal
    DX: Unexplained
    8/2018: Clomid + TI = BFN
    9/2018: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
    11/2018: Clomid + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    12/2018: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone \\ Cancelled due to cyst
    1/2019: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD Sept 30th, 2019
    10/7/2019: Healthy baby boy!

    TTC #2: 12/2020
    2/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
    3/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
    4/2021: Surprise! Natural BFP! \\ EDD Jan 6th, 2022 \\ Chemical, betas not rising
    8/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    9/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    10/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    11/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD July 29th, 2022

    shortstack930keikilovebrookert615
  • @kiki047 LP after IVF depends on trigger-- I typically go 10-11 days (normal LP for me) after HCG, and on Lupron it was only 5 days (but I think average is a week). And yes, I think if you're not explicitly doing duostim, I think you just go again with a natural start (ie call on CD1 and get your CD2/3 baseline scheduled, and go again). It's honestly not that different than duostim. 
    TTC History
    TTC #1 Sep 2017-Sep 2018 
    BFP 11/30/2017 | MMC 12/31/2017
    BFP 6/22/2018 | CP 6/27/2018
    BFP 10/5/2018 | EDD 6/14/2019
    Baby girl born 6/19/19

    TTC #2 Since May 2020
    BFP 7/18/2020 | MonoDi Twins | MMC 9/10/2020
    BFP 11/7/2020 | CP 11/9/2020
    RE Consult January 2021 | Dx "borderline DOR"/RPL
    IVF with PGT:
    Standard Antagonist:
    ER #1 3/27/2021 7R | 5M | 3F | 2B | 1 PGT-A Normal, 1 low-level mosaic
    ER #2 4/22/2021 10R | 7M | 3F | 2B | 0 normal, 2 aneuploid
    ER #3 5/19/2021 2R | 1M | 0F
    Estrogen Priming Antagonist:
    ER #4 7/10/2021 5R | 4M | 3F | 1B | 1 PGT-A Normal
    Duostim  (Standard Antagonist):
    ER #5 9/22/2021 13R | 11M | 8F | 5B | 2 PGT-A Normal, 1 low-level mosaic, 2 aneuploid
    ER #6 10/9/2021  9R | 6M | 4 F | 1B | 1 aneuploid
    FET #1  11/5/2021 | EDD 7/24/2022


    acleverusername
  • @emmasemm hello dear friend  <3

    @LJMoon6 I actually had this same issue. Unexplained secondary infertility with IUIs failing and no other explanation for why. I finally got the laparoscopic surgery done and they found stage 1 endometriosis. My only symptom was infertility--tubes were clear, my cycle was like clockwork, no super bad cramps or anything. My RE explained that sometimes women who have stage 1 endo with hardly any issues can't get pregnant without IVF, yet some women with stage 3 or 4 and all the symptoms can still get pregnant on their own or with less help. Also, it definitely runs in families so if your mom had it there's a very good chance you could also. I'm still holding out hope for you that the IUI works and you don't have to worry about any of this.
    TTC History
    Me: 34 DH: 33
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    TTC#3 starting 07/2021

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks


    LJMoon6keikiloveacleverusername
  • @LJMoon6 so sorry about the bfn. And that unexplained diagnosis is so frustrating. I have both unexplained secondary infertility and unexplained RPL and I hate the unexplained part. Like why?!?! Why is there no reason. So frustrating. 

    @shortstack930 ahh so close! So excited for you!

    @optimistgardener super excited you are doing an insemination this cycle. Got everything crossed for you!

    @keikilove aww thank you friend. It probably is. So many elements were Star Wars based haha. I hope you and your H are doing well 

    TTC#1 - March 2013

    BFP 8/9/13 - EDD 4/14/14 - DS born 4/23/14

    TTC#2 November 2015

    Dx: Secondary IF June 2016

    Medicated IUI cycle#1- Clomid+IUI -1/15/17 -BFN

    Break Mid 2017 - Resumed TTC December 2018

    "She believed she could so she did..."

    Medicated IUI cycle#2- Femara 5mg+IUI 12/22/18 - BFP 1/4/19 - MMC 2/1/19

    Saline Sono 3/15/19 - All Clear!

    Medicated IUI cycle#3- Femara 7.5mg+IUI 3/28/19-BFN

    Medicated IUI cycle#4- Femara 5mg+Gonal F 50iu+IUI 4/27/19- BFP 5/11/19 - MMC 6/12/19 - D&C 6/14/19-

    Incomplete M/C Repeat D&C - 7/3/19 -Testing concluded baby was genetically normal  :'(

    Dx: Unexplained RPL July 2019 - Tested + as carrier for Usher Syndrome & Familial Mediterranean Fever 

    Saline Sono 8/7/19 - Mostly Clear! All systems go for IVF#1 

    But will need a repeat Saline Sono between ER and FET

    IVF #1 - Antagonist Protocol - 8/17/19

    ER#1 8/27/19 - 12R, 6F, 4 biopsied+frozen! (3d5blasts + 1d6blast)- 2 PGS normal embabies!

    Saline Sono 9/13/19 - All Clear! Onto FET Prep#1

    FET#1 - 4AA -10/4/19 - BFP 10/14/19 - EDD - 6/21/20 -Beta#1-10dp5dt- 379 Beta#2-12dp5dt- 1007 Beta#3-14dp5dt- 2844

    DD born 6/15/20  <3

    LJMoon6shortstack930keikilove
  • edited October 19
    @hanshotfirst77 just for clarity, i'm free-styling it. so it's not like an actual IUI or anything. just a jar of jizz and a needleless syringe, haha. i've probably said this in a few places before but i don't have high hopes, considering my track record. but it always feels better to try.
    @ljmoon6 dang about the BFN. so sorry! i know in IVF we can do a down-regulation protocol before a transfer to knock back endo a bit. I'm not sure if there are any medical treatments that help if you're just doing IUI/TI.


    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan, I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast (1 was a slow-growing day 6 blast). 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow. Still prepping for a 2nd retrieval in late Nov.
    LJMoon6acleverusername
  • @optimistgardener "Mommy, where do babies come from?" "Well sweetie, first you need a jar of jizz, and a needleless syringe..."  :lol::lol: I'm dying. I'm so glad my romanticized vision of how babies are made was corrected long, long ago... our stories would be similarly unglamorous. 
    @bumblebee0210 I'm curious if they'll give me an HCG or Lupron trigger. As for AF, I guess we'll wait and see what happens! 
    @LJMoon6 I missed your check-in, we must've been cross-posting at the same time. I'm so sorry for your BFN. Even when you kinda know it's coming, it is still such a punch in the gut. Checking for silent endo isn't a bad idea, especially if it runs in your family. 
    @emmasemm thank you for your wise words, as always. Always appreciate your input. 

    TTC History:

    Me: 34  MH: 37, TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil

    Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)

    Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil) 

    Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.

    Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.

    Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w                                                  

    Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d. 

    May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN. 

    June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI for a new IVF cycle

    Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal

    Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic

    Nov '21: WFAF to schedule endometrial biopsy so we can move on to FET

    optimistgardenerLJMoon6
  • @optimistgardener haha I love your phrasing! I tried some home attempts myself before it was made clear i needed IVF. But hey it’s always worth a shot. 

    TTC#1 - March 2013

    BFP 8/9/13 - EDD 4/14/14 - DS born 4/23/14

    TTC#2 November 2015

    Dx: Secondary IF June 2016

    Medicated IUI cycle#1- Clomid+IUI -1/15/17 -BFN

    Break Mid 2017 - Resumed TTC December 2018

    "She believed she could so she did..."

    Medicated IUI cycle#2- Femara 5mg+IUI 12/22/18 - BFP 1/4/19 - MMC 2/1/19

    Saline Sono 3/15/19 - All Clear!

    Medicated IUI cycle#3- Femara 7.5mg+IUI 3/28/19-BFN

    Medicated IUI cycle#4- Femara 5mg+Gonal F 50iu+IUI 4/27/19- BFP 5/11/19 - MMC 6/12/19 - D&C 6/14/19-

    Incomplete M/C Repeat D&C - 7/3/19 -Testing concluded baby was genetically normal  :'(

    Dx: Unexplained RPL July 2019 - Tested + as carrier for Usher Syndrome & Familial Mediterranean Fever 

    Saline Sono 8/7/19 - Mostly Clear! All systems go for IVF#1 

    But will need a repeat Saline Sono between ER and FET

    IVF #1 - Antagonist Protocol - 8/17/19

    ER#1 8/27/19 - 12R, 6F, 4 biopsied+frozen! (3d5blasts + 1d6blast)- 2 PGS normal embabies!

    Saline Sono 9/13/19 - All Clear! Onto FET Prep#1

    FET#1 - 4AA -10/4/19 - BFP 10/14/19 - EDD - 6/21/20 -Beta#1-10dp5dt- 379 Beta#2-12dp5dt- 1007 Beta#3-14dp5dt- 2844

    DD born 6/15/20  <3

    optimistgardenerkeikilove
  • @shortstack930 That’s so crazy. Did you have to push for the laparoscopy or did your RE recommend it? I have been having painful ovulations lately. I mostly chalked that up to the meds tho. I did always gets O cramps but lately they have been painful. My mom had endo so bad she ended up having a hysterectomy and her ovaries removed (from cysts). I just assumed I didn’t have it, since I didn’t have any symptoms. I can’t remember what my RE said about it when I brought it up.

    @hanshotfirst77 The “unexplained” kills me too. It’s like a slap in the face.

    @optimistgardener I haven’t heard of anyone doing something like that for an IUI. But that would be interesting. I would definitely give it a shot.

    @kiki047 Thanks friend. I might have to look into it and see if insurance would even cover a laparoscopy. I’m super curious to find out either way.


    *TW* TTC history
    Me:32 DH:31
    Married: 8/2015

    TTC #1: 4/2017
    Testing: HSG, U/S, BW, and DH's SA all normal
    DX: Unexplained
    8/2018: Clomid + TI = BFN
    9/2018: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
    11/2018: Clomid + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    12/2018: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone \\ Cancelled due to cyst
    1/2019: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD Sept 30th, 2019
    10/7/2019: Healthy baby boy!

    TTC #2: 12/2020
    2/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
    3/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
    4/2021: Surprise! Natural BFP! \\ EDD Jan 6th, 2022 \\ Chemical, betas not rising
    8/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    9/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    10/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    11/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD July 29th, 2022

  • OMG dying at "a jar of jizz" @optimistgardener

    TTC History

    Me: 38, MH: 36 | Met 02/09 | Started Dating 08/17 | Married 02/02/2020
    TTC #1 since 02/2020
    2009 | Dx PCOS; likely a misdiagnosis
    07/14/20 | Dx Hashimoto's Thyroditis
    07/21/20 | 1st RE appointment
    07/2120 - 08/20/20 | so much testing; no signs of PCOS
    08/20/20 | Dx Unexplained; AMA
    09/08/20 | IUI #1 Clomid + Trigger + Prometrium | BFN
    09/30/20 | Urology consult; more testing required
    10/2020 | Clomid + OPK + TI + Prometrium | BFN
    10/26/2020 | Starting 2nd IUI cycle, with Letrazole and with a new RE / different clinic
    11/03/2020 | New Dx "poor egg quality"; IUI cancelled in favor of Trigger + TI + Prometrium | BFN
    11/26/2020 | Combo IUI (Clomid + Menopur) + Trigger + Prometrium | BFN
    12/20/2020 | Combo IUI (Clomid + Gonal-F) + Trigger | IUI Cancelled due to thin lining; TI only | BFN
    01/14/2021 | Combo IUI (Letrazole + Menopur) + Trigger | BFN
    02/06/2021 | Switched to a new RE (TEW) ; trying naturally until we complete additional testing 
    03/14/2021 | Hybrid + Double IUI, with Zymot (Letrazole, Gonal-F) + Trigger + Endometrin | Ovulated 4 mature eggs but still a BFN ☹️
    04/07/2021 | Natural cycle while we regroup | BFN
    04/09/2021 | Employer announces fertility benefits starting 05/01/2021! | Search for a new doctor who accepts insurance
    05/10/2021 | New RE consult & plan for IVF
    05/13/2021 | Mid-luteal IVF cycle #1 interrupted; had to get cancer genetic screening done to make sure I didn't have the same SDHA gene mutation as MH. 
    06/10/2021 | Aygestin priming IVF cycle #1; opted to Cx after 9 days of stims since only 5-6/12 follicles responded
    07/26/2021 | Attempt #2 at IVF cycle #1 (mid-luteal start): 8 retrieved, 8 MII, 6 fert (1 PN3), 3 Day 5 & 6 blasts: 3AA, 3AA, 6AB; 2 euploid + 1 low-level mosaic
    08/09/2021 | Rest cycle / unmedicated TTC | Shockingly, a BFP! EDD: 5/25/202 | CP at 4w4d
    09/23/2021 | IVF cycle #2 (mid-luteal start): 14 retrieved, 13 MII, 11 fert, 5 Day 5 & 6 blasts: 2 x 3AA, 2 x 3AB, 3BB; 2 euploid
    11/12/2021 | IVF cycle #3 (mid-luteal start): 


    optimistgardener
  • @kiki047 and @acleverusername so glad to entertain! yeah, being a hopeful "independent mom" (to use our new lingo!) means that a process already made less romantic by the burdens of infertility is made even less so by the absence of a romantic partner. it is entirely about delivering sperm to egg.
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan, I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast (1 was a slow-growing day 6 blast). 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow. Still prepping for a 2nd retrieval in late Nov.
    kiki047keikilove
  • @LJMoon6 after trying on our own for about 16 months and then 3 medicated IUI cycles with no success my RE told me I had a choice to go straight to IVF or get the laparoscopy to see if I had endo. I was terrified of IVF and also really wanted answers so I opted for the surgery first. She was able to code it in a way that insurance covered it, I think she put it as due to some sort of pain to get it covered. We did two IUIs with letrozole after that with no success and then opted for IVF.
    TTC History
    Me: 34 DH: 33
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    TTC#3 starting 07/2021

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks


    LJMoon6keikilove
  • @optimistgardener ya, the dexa is so strong, its an interesting addition, haha. i think im adjusting to it more....or maybe im just getting used to being without sleep haha. my husband is always cold in our house but im always sooooo hot haha so it makes things interesting. "jar of jizz" LOLLLLL

    @shortstack930 im not sure on lifting the restrictions post FET....but ive never done FET. im always just so cautious about everything. that is a tough spot to be in, not wanting to tell work about it yet....totally understandable. also, you must be an Idina Menzel fan - frozen, rent, and wicked, hahaha

    @LJMoon6 ya the letrozole and clomid together....haha. when we tried for our first, they had me on just letrozole and it was taking forever for my ovaries to respond. so my RE said that sometimes combining the two gives it enough of a kick to work. i guess they work differently to stimulate the ovaries, so having both stimulation methods helps? and im so sorry about your BFN :( unexplained has to be so so hard. i know they dont like to do laparoscopies, but you can push it if you feel like its worthwhile. *tw* my mom had problems getting pregnant with me and they ended up doing a laparoscopy and cleaning out all the endometriosis junk and they got pregnant with me the next try....by cleaning out the stuff it helped my little embryo stick to her lining *end tw* its really hard and im sorry you have to deal with this!

    *tw - child discussed*
    yesterday was a hard day with my toddler and it totally made me question why we are trying to have another one. im gonna chalk it up to the hormones from the meds, hopefully, haha
    married to DH on March 15, 2018 <3 TTC since May 2018
    dx: PCOS, hypothroidism <3 tx: timed intercourse with meds (dexa, clomid, letrozole, metformin, trigger shots)
    First TTGP: 5/9/19 BFN, 6/21/19 BFN, 7/29/19 BFN, 8/1/19 started a break from tx, 11/16/19 surprised with a BFP! LO born 7/7/20
    Second TTGP: started meds for first cycle of tx on 10/13/21


    LJMoon6
  • @kiki047 they had me on the cabergoline too since my estrogen was in the 3000s come trigger time. They also had me trigger with only 5000IU of the HCG trigger instead of the usual 10,000 to help lower the risk of OHSS. Did he tell you a follicle count at all? Keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you!!
    History:
    Me: 32 DH: 34 | Together since 2007 | Married July 2016

    *TW*
    TTC #1 since 7.2017
    Dx: unexplained, low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
    IUI #1-3 all BFN
    IVF #1 | 6.11.19 | 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys
    FET #1 | 9.10.19 | BFN "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name"
    Loss, Receptiva, & ERA testing | all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET
    FET #2 | 3.31.20 | Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer
    2nd Opinion with another RE | 8.20.20 | Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago (with better count), decide on 9.16.20 to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle
    Surprise natural BFP! | 9.22.20 | MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks
    TTCAL naturally | starting 11.22.20
    Attempted antihistamine protocol | 6.18.21 | BFN
    The long shot "I think vaccines can help me get pregnant" protocol | Covid vaccine shot #1 7.30.21; shot #2 8.20.21
    Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist | 9.14.21
    Decidualization score biopsy | 10.1.21 | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended
    Saline sono | 10.15.21 | normal
    Bloodwork | 10.21.21 high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies
    BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22 B) | added supplemental progesterone and estrogen, prednisone, levothyroxine, and MTX to maintain pregnancy; more supplements pending genetic tests
    optimistgardenerkeikilovekiki047acleverusername
  • @kiki047 i feel like REs have the weirdest humor.
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan, I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast (1 was a slow-growing day 6 blast). 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow. Still prepping for a 2nd retrieval in late Nov.
    acleverusername
  • @knockupthestock yesss I love Idina!!

    @inthewoods23 I'm glad you got all the blood work stuff sorted out! I think it's great that you want to share the results with your parents.

    @zwink1 looks like our FETs will only be a week apart!! I'm so excited for you!!
    TTC History
    Me: 34 DH: 33
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    TTC#3 starting 07/2021

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks


    zwink1knockupthestock
  • edited October 21
    heeeey @ zwink1 i have questions about how the lupron's side effects are treating you... is it the hellscape of hot flashes and emotional bleah that i've heard rumors about? also omg! the 29th is right around the corner! you may be having a hard time getting enthusiastic about things right now (maybe it's the lupron?!) but i am way jazzed on your behalf! 🎉
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan, I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast (1 was a slow-growing day 6 blast). 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow. Still prepping for a 2nd retrieval in late Nov.
    keikilovezwink1
  • @jellie603 we are totes here for your questions whenever you want to join us. good luck with prodding the H into submitting his sample.
    @kiki047 how're you feeling with the trigger in you? lots of weird tweaky sensations yet? i can't wait to hear how your retrieval goes!
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan, I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast (1 was a slow-growing day 6 blast). 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow. Still prepping for a 2nd retrieval in late Nov.
    jellie603keikiloveacleverusername
  • @optimistgardener, luckily no hot flashes here - but then I generally run cold anyway, so I'm wondering if that's just sort of balancing out, lol.  The emotional blah is definitely for real.  I'm either completely unenthused by anything, or I'm an emotional ping pong ball depending on the day/time of day.  Other than that, most of the side effects are pretty low key, but there's enough of them that the combination of them is unpleasant. The tiredness hits hard, particularly in the early afternoon, and i have virtually constant low grade, just enough to annoy, headache.  I already mentioned the bruising (+ burning at injection site).  Other than that, it's hard to say what's a side effect and what's not, like, I've been sneezing way more than normal but there's an even chance that's just allergies, lol.

    @jellie603, we're happy to answer any questions you've got!  You're not alone. My H was the worst procrastinator on the planet.  It took repeated prodding to get him moving.  Why is it that they can get stuff for their hobbies done/scheduled in like 2 seconds flat, but actual important stuff gets kicked down the road? Someone must have done a psychological study on this at some point, lol.  But for real though, he should get that sent in and tested before you get too far down the testing road because it's one of the easiest tests to check off the list and the results can make a big difference in how you proceed.
    jellie603optimistgardeneracleverusername
  • edited October 21
    @jellie603 @zwink1 i feel like if orgasms were like, an obligatory part of my contribution to this whole tired process of testing and just the basic mechanics of the thing (instead of, you know, bloodwork and invasive U/S and injections) i would not be procrastinating, but i do imagine it can feel a little weird for dudes. still: bloodwork? or orgasm? i know which one i'd choose.
    (edit because i dragged kiki047 into this unnecessarily! as you were!)
    but actually @kiki047 my strong opinion about joining studies is YES, DO THEM! the organizers of such studies are obliged to make sure the study design does not infringe on your success rates, but you get the added benefit of having cool extra data about yourself, plus i feel like being part of a study means people are paying a little bit of extra attention to make sure things go well for you.
    History
    I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
    Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
    5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
    Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
    Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
    May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
    MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
    In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
    Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
    April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
    July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
    July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
    Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
    RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan, I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
    Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
    Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
    Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
    May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
    July '21 IVF: 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast (1 was a slow-growing day 6 blast). 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal.
    Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow. Still prepping for a 2nd retrieval in late Nov.
    zwink1acleverusername
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