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  • @kiki047 FX for you that this IUI cycle is what it takes! One of the things I read was that 3 IUI cycles are the equivalent to 1 IVF cycle in terms of success rates for people with unexplained infertility. Not sure if that's really true, but hopefully third time will be the charm for you! Also, I will say that a lot of what I was reading that said IUI wasn't worth it was from people who don't live in the US. In other countries, apparently IUI and IVF aren't that different in price, which is insane to me. If IVF wasn't so cost-prohibitive, I'd be more inclined to go straight for that too. But between you, me and @kpearse99 , I think we can keep up the IUI-positivity! (am I missing any other IUI'ers?)
    Me: 35 DH: 33 TTC #1 since 2/2019  Blocked Fallopian Tube

    August Sig Challenge: Camping


    kiki047jennifer_louiseemeraldduchesskpearse99
  • @shoogapoff I'm Canadian so some of the costs are covered up here. I still have to pay OOP for the sperm wash ($500 Cdn) and not all of the drugs are covered ($250) but all of my b/w and u/s are covered and most of the routine testing. We haven't talked about the cost of IVF yet but I was told somewhere in the ballpark of $10-15k. FX for success with the IUI! We've got this! 

    Me: 32  MH: 36

    TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: Cycle monitoring, testing w/RE. SA - 19mil, 66% morph

    Dec '18: Letrozole + TI - BFN

    Jan '19: 30lb total weight loss since Aug '18. Natural monitored cycle + TI - BFN

    Feb & Mar '19: Letrozole + TI, BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    May '19: Natural cycle. MH reaches 50lb weight loss since Jan '19. BFN.

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp

    shoogapoffjennifer_louisekeikiloveemeraldduchess
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  • @emeraldduchess we are!! Thanks! I got a call back from the scheduler this afternoon, and she said they are already double-booked for Thursday afternoon. 😕 She said to call back Wednesday though, in case there are cancellations (which she said happens quite a bit), so there is still a chance! I don’t know why I didn’t think to call about this sooner! 

    @jennifer_louise thank you, I’m definitely excited to get this show on the road! Haha, I don’t mind at all to post my list...although DH and I ended up playing a game on the Switch tonight and didn’t make the list...but tomorrow, it’s happening! 

    @kiki047 thank you! That would be awesome if so, but totally understand if you can’t find it easily! I don’t really know what to expect as far as the course of action that will be suggested going forward, so I’d say there will be lots of follow-up questions after the initial appt. (both on here and to my RE)! 
    kiki047
  • @kiki047 Isn't that a great quote from him?! It brought a tear to my eye too when he first said it to, I kinda wanted to just hug him  :D  But I keep reminding myself of that line every time I feel my thoughts going in the wrong direction. Get the bracelet!  It's pretty inexpensive and at the very least, since you can add oils to the lava beads, you'll get nice bursts of a calming scent if that's the oil you choose!  I'm really happy we are IUI buddies!!

    August Signature Challenge - Camping:

    TTC #1: May 2011
    BFP: 10/27/2011 |  EDD: 6/30/12
       3 DS born 6/28/12 via C/S 3 

    TTC #2: September 2018
    Mirena out 9/13 after 6 years
    BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
    Lilypie Kids Birthday tickers


    kiki047
  • @bluetickgal ok I didn't find my own list but I did bookmark this thread last time which was really helpful. My biggest advice is to write all of your own information down and take it with you. All of your supplements and dosages, I am always asked when my last LMP started (every time I go in, not just my first appt), I took my charts with me just in case, though my RE didn't so much care about my BBT because they did their own monitoring. Even if you feel like you have some of these things in your head already, write it down anyway. And don't be afraid to ask them to slow down or explain something while you record it, it's amazing how fast those appts seem and it's all a blur in the end. 
    @kpearse99 I love the idea of the diffuser too. I have a lava bead bracelet that my dad got me, I wonder if I can put essential oils on that too... 

    Me: 32  MH: 36

    TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: Cycle monitoring, testing w/RE. SA - 19mil, 66% morph

    Dec '18: Letrozole + TI - BFN

    Jan '19: 30lb total weight loss since Aug '18. Natural monitored cycle + TI - BFN

    Feb & Mar '19: Letrozole + TI, BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    May '19: Natural cycle. MH reaches 50lb weight loss since Jan '19. BFN.

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp

    misshelen86kpearse99bluetickgal
  • @kiki047 thanks so much!! That thread will be a huge help for starting my list!! Definitely a good tip to write down all the meds I take or have taken in previous cycles...I had to put a lot of that on the paperwork I filled out to take in, but it wouldn’t hurt to have it in my notes too! I wasn’t sure if they would care about seeing charts or not but I may print them just in case. If nothing else, it shows the commitment we’ve had to this for 15 months already! Thanks again for all the info & tips, I definitely appreciate it! 
    kiki047
  • @shoogapoff That’s one of my worries too is trying to figure out the timing of things when work gets in the way. Hopefully the timing will all work out for you. Keeping FX your IUI is a success. Have you discussed a back up plan with your RE in case it doesn’t work the first time? 

    @kiki047 Good to see you back, friend! We missed you around here. That’s interesting about “priming the pump” (I LOVE that term BTW) and how it increased your H’s count. Might have to try that. Glad you have a solid plan in place and it makes sense that you are struggling with having to let go of the idea of conceiving naturally. It’s so unfair that anyone has to deal with this. I’m keeping everything crossed for this IUI to be a success for you!

    @bluetickgal Glad the nurse was so helpful with your questions. GL putting that list together. I’m going to start making one too, even though I won’t be going for a few months. Hope everything goes well at the appointment and you are able to come up with a plan!
    TTGP August 2019 Siggy Challenge- Camping gifs/mishaps

    bluetickgalkiki047
  • @misshelen86 thank you, it was definitely a good interaction! That’s a good idea to start your list now...I’m normally more on top of things and would have had my list made by now...but hopefully we can sit down tonight and get it knocked out. Oh, I got the Conquering Infertility book on my Kindle...I planned to start reading it at lunch today, but spent my whole lunch on here instead. I’ll start it tonight though! 
    misshelen86
  • @misshelen86 that's wonderful news!
    Married: Spring 2009
    TTC #1: July 2018
    *TW*
    BFP 12/7/18, EDD 8/20/19
    CP 12/17/18 @ 5 weeks, 1 day
    BFP 7/1/19, CP confirmed 7/3/19
    First RE consult 5/2019
    HyCoSy: all clear! Moving on to testing for RPL
    TTGP August Signature Challenge: Camping




    misshelen86
  • FX so hard for you @kiki047!! Did you do your own trigger? So far MH is doing my IM injections, but I think I can probably do them myself. I'm just nervous to try. 
    kiki047
  • @ruby696 oh MH gets faint if I even so much as talk about a needle so I had to do it myself while he was at baseball :lol:  it wasn’t so bad. I think I did it too slow because I was nervous about stabbing myself too deep? You could totally do it yourself. Are the IM injections in your butt tho? I feel like that’d be awkward just cuz of the angle. I have a lot of belly flab so I didn’t even feel it lmao. 

    Me: 32  MH: 36

    TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: Cycle monitoring, testing w/RE. SA - 19mil, 66% morph

    Dec '18: Letrozole + TI - BFN

    Jan '19: 30lb total weight loss since Aug '18. Natural monitored cycle + TI - BFN

    Feb & Mar '19: Letrozole + TI, BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    May '19: Natural cycle. MH reaches 50lb weight loss since Jan '19. BFN.

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp

    lillywonderlandruby696
  • @misshelen86 im so happy about YH's news! To answer your question: our RE didn't say anything about what would be next if IUI didn't work. I assumed he'd want us to try it a few times. FX we don't have to find out!
    Me: 35 DH: 33 TTC #1 since 2/2019  Blocked Fallopian Tube

    August Sig Challenge: Camping


    misshelen86kiki047
  • @kiki047 good luck with the IUI today!  Glad your trigger went well... I'm the opposite of you though and I like to watch the needle go in so the pinch isn't a surprise.
    Me: 28   DH: 28
    Dx: PCOS
    TTGP: 9/2015
    Started at RE 5/2016
    *TW*
    BFP: 7/31/16  MC: 8/20/16
    BFP: 12/1/16   DD: 7/30/17
    TTGP #2: 6/2018
    BFP: 4/24/19  MC: 5/19/19


  • @kiki047 I do my stomach injections (and I also go super slow, lol). The IM injections are in my butt and the needle is longer and the angle is weird. I may have to do it myself tonight, so it will be interesting. 

    More importantly - good luck today!!❤❤
    kiki047
  • @misshelen86 that is great news! Yay!

    @kiki047 Good luck today! Fx for you!

    @ruby696 Good luck with the injection. I will most likely be doing all mine myself. I always did my trigger and gonal F myself during my IUI cycles. The only one that makes me nervous are the IM ones too. Let us know how it goes.

    TTC#1 - March 2013

    BFP 8/9/13 - EDD 4/14/14 - DS born 4/23/14

    TTC#2 November 2015

    Dx: Secondary IF June 2016

    Medicated IUI cycle#1- Clomid+IUI -1/15/17 -BFN

    Break Mid 2017 - Resumed TTC December 2018

    "She believed she could so she did..."

    Medicated IUI cycle#2- Femara 5mg+IUI 12/22/18 - BFP 1/4/19 - MMC 2/1/19

    Saline Sono 3/15/19 - All Clear!

    Medicated IUI cycle#3- Femara 7.5mg+IUI 3/28/19-BFN

    Medicated IUI cycle#4- Femara 5mg+Gonal F 50iu+IUI 4/27/19- BFP 5/11/19 - MMC 6/12/19 - D&C 6/14/19-

    Incomplete M/C Repeat D&C - 7/3/19 -Testing concluded baby was genetically normal  :'(

    Dx: Unexplained RPL July 2019 - Tested + as carrier for Usher Syndrome & Familial Mediterranean Fever 

    Saline Sono 8/7/19 - Mostly Clear! All systems go for IVF#1 

    But will need a repeat Saline Sono between ER and FET

    IVF #1 - Antagonist Protocol - 8/17/19

    Tentative ER#1 8/26/19

    ruby696misshelen86
  • @mokay19 I'm with you with wanting to watch the needle go in! I like to know what to expect  :D
    @kiki047 So excited for you today!!! FX so hard!! Let us know how it goes - I'm living through you today since mine will be coming up soon too!!  I told MH last night he'd have to do the injection for me because I wasn't sure I'd be able to do it myself... too nervous... and he laughed and said no way! LOL Then he gave in and said he would if I really needed him to.  I'm terrified of putting the needle in too far or not far enough... I've never done this before so I'm totally freaking out about it!

    @misshelen86 such awesome news about YH!

    August Signature Challenge - Camping:

    TTC #1: May 2011
    BFP: 10/27/2011 |  EDD: 6/30/12
       3 DS born 6/28/12 via C/S 3 

    TTC #2: September 2018
    Mirena out 9/13 after 6 years
    BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
    Lilypie Kids Birthday tickers


    misshelen86kiki047
  • Questions for you all:  those that have done the IUIs (or are still doing them) do you still worry/stress about timing HIO either before or after the procedure?

    Also, I've been feeling very minor and dull achy cramps these last 2 days after finishing the letrozole - I'm thinking that's normal but has anyone else experienced that?

    August Signature Challenge - Camping:

    TTC #1: May 2011
    BFP: 10/27/2011 |  EDD: 6/30/12
       3 DS born 6/28/12 via C/S 3 

    TTC #2: September 2018
    Mirena out 9/13 after 6 years
    BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
    Lilypie Kids Birthday tickers


    brookert615kbrown2385
  • @kpearse99 My RE encouraged lots of sperm, so we HIO'd before and after. She has a "the more, the merrier," philosophy. 
    kpearse99
  • @kpearse99 my only requirement was HIO around the time you do the trigger shot then abstain until day of the IUI so YH has 2 days of sperm built up to provide for the IUI procedure. The they told us to HIO that night. Anytime outside that was up to us.

    We had better numbers if we HIO more prior to IUI. We got better motility when we HIO 2-3 times before the night of the trigger sex.
    TTGP August Siggy Challenge - Camping

    Me: 30 DH:32
    Together since 2007
    Married 7/2/16

    TTC #1 since 7/2017
    Dx: unexplained

    IUI #1-3 all BFN

    IVF #1
    6 total biopsied for PGT-A and frozen, 5 normal - 3 girls, 2 boys

    FET #1
    Scheduled transfer date 9/10/19


    kiki047kpearse99
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    This thread got away from me this week 😬 I’m equally happy to be with good company but also sad there are so many of us here. 

    Question- have anyone’s cholesterol / triglycerides been affected by letrozole? I had a biometric screening for work yesterday and my triglycerides were so high that their little dinky machine couldn’t give an exact #, they just knew it was over 500. Last year it was 96. Of course the lady asked if I was pregnant and I had just taken the negative test that morning. I tried calling my RE yesterday but she hasn’t called back. 
    TTGP July Sig Contest - Awkward Swimsuit Photos


    married 10.2016
    ttc #1 11.2017
    dx: unexplained
    brookert615
  • kpearse99kpearse99
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    @inthewoods23 that's exactly what my RE told us too.. and that was totally my thinking behind it all... the more we have before the IUI the better our chances will be!

    @ruby696 that's what I was thinking too... the more the merrier!  :D  My goal is, at least, EOD right now until I know when the IUI will be scheduled for.  Then we will HIO around the time of the trigger... hold out for the 36 hours after the trigger and before the IUI, and then HIO again the night of the IUI.

    August Signature Challenge - Camping:

    TTC #1: May 2011
    BFP: 10/27/2011 |  EDD: 6/30/12
       3 DS born 6/28/12 via C/S 3 

    TTC #2: September 2018
    Mirena out 9/13 after 6 years
    BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
    Lilypie Kids Birthday tickers


    ruby696
  • @kiki047 good luck today!! 

    @kpearse99 yes, I usually have achy cramps for several days leading up to O after stopping Letrozole. 

    @b_1029 no insight on the cholesterol/triglycerides being affected by Letrozole...but hopefully your RE gets back to you soon with some helpful info! 
    kpearse99b_1029kiki047
  • @bluetickgal that's what I was thinking!  Guess that means my follies are getting ready to look super awesome tomorrow ;)

    August Signature Challenge - Camping:

    TTC #1: May 2011
    BFP: 10/27/2011 |  EDD: 6/30/12
       3 DS born 6/28/12 via C/S 3 

    TTC #2: September 2018
    Mirena out 9/13 after 6 years
    BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
    Lilypie Kids Birthday tickers


    bluetickgal
  • @kiki047 Good luck today!! 

    @ruby696 Good luck with the injection! You got this!

    @b_1029 Sorry to hear about your cholesterol/triglyceride levels. Was this a blood draw to determine this? Hope your RE gets back to you soon.
    TTGP August 2019 Siggy Challenge- Camping gifs/mishaps

    ruby696
  • @kiki047 we just did shower sex while on the progesterone suppositories so he could clean off right away and I didn't feel the need to "marinate" after sex since I was already post-O.  Also, I always scoop out the gunk while in the shower to kind of clean it out every few days.  Especially when I was on Crinone.  Lots of excess gunk.
    Me: 28   DH: 28
    Dx: PCOS
    TTGP: 9/2015
    Started at RE 5/2016
    *TW*
    BFP: 7/31/16  MC: 8/20/16
    BFP: 12/1/16   DD: 7/30/17
    TTGP #2: 6/2018
    BFP: 4/24/19  MC: 5/19/19


  • @kiki047 Glad to hear it went well other than the discomfort. FX this does the trick!!
    TTGP August 2019 Siggy Challenge- Camping gifs/mishaps

  • @kiki047 so glad to hear it went well!! Thanks for the info too :) I have a tilted ute so I'm assuming there will be some extra prodding going on down there when it's my turn... oh fun!

    August Signature Challenge - Camping:

    TTC #1: May 2011
    BFP: 10/27/2011 |  EDD: 6/30/12
       3 DS born 6/28/12 via C/S 3 

    TTC #2: September 2018
    Mirena out 9/13 after 6 years
    BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
    Lilypie Kids Birthday tickers


  • @mokay19 thanks for the tip! Smart! We've done a lot of things in the shower but never actually DTD so maybe I'll have to suggest that. 

    Me: 32  MH: 36

    TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: Cycle monitoring, testing w/RE. SA - 19mil, 66% morph

    Dec '18: Letrozole + TI - BFN

    Jan '19: 30lb total weight loss since Aug '18. Natural monitored cycle + TI - BFN

    Feb & Mar '19: Letrozole + TI, BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    May '19: Natural cycle. MH reaches 50lb weight loss since Jan '19. BFN.

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp

    mokay19
  • @kiki047 so glad to hear everything went well!! Fx so hard for those swimmers! 
    kiki047
  • @kiki047 you have to get into some flexible positions to make DTD in the shower work... well... at least I have to  :#

    August Signature Challenge - Camping:

    TTC #1: May 2011
    BFP: 10/27/2011 |  EDD: 6/30/12
       3 DS born 6/28/12 via C/S 3 

    TTC #2: September 2018
    Mirena out 9/13 after 6 years
    BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
    Lilypie Kids Birthday tickers


    kiki047
  • @kpearse99 ha! I feel like it's our height difference that has prevented us from trying in the past (amongst other things) so you're probably right. So if I don't show up for my check-in tomorrow, assume I fell in the shower and broke a hip :lol: 

    Me: 32  MH: 36

    TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: Cycle monitoring, testing w/RE. SA - 19mil, 66% morph

    Dec '18: Letrozole + TI - BFN

    Jan '19: 30lb total weight loss since Aug '18. Natural monitored cycle + TI - BFN

    Feb & Mar '19: Letrozole + TI, BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    May '19: Natural cycle. MH reaches 50lb weight loss since Jan '19. BFN.

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp

    shamrocandrollemeraldduchesslillywonderlandgalentine
  • @kiki047 I'm dying!!! MH and I have a decent height difference too... so shower sexy time is not the eeeeeeasiest thing for me to do  :D  My hips lock up, I'm bent in half, and I get cramps in my feet from standing on my tippy-toes... it's not a pretty sight  :p Hopefully it's easier for you! LOL

    August Signature Challenge - Camping:

    TTC #1: May 2011
    BFP: 10/27/2011 |  EDD: 6/30/12
       3 DS born 6/28/12 via C/S 3 

    TTC #2: September 2018
    Mirena out 9/13 after 6 years
    BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
    Lilypie Kids Birthday tickers


    kiki047
  • **Lurking

    @kiki047 Yay, so glad it went well!  Also, these are the times I'm happy to be tall.  We don't DTD in the shower very often (maybe a handful of times in 11 years) because I don't find it particularly enjoyable, but when we do, it's just as simple as me bending over.  
    Camping Mishaps - TTGP Aug Sig Contest

    **TW**
    Me: 34 | H: 39
    DS: Nov 2016
    MMC: 11/16/18 (9w6d)
    CP: 2/3/19 (5w3d)


    kpearse99
  • @shamrocandroll dangit, lol, #shortpeopleproblems
    @kpearse99 they make it look so easy in the movies. IRL, not so much! Like even just to lean up against the shower wall is uncomfortable because it's cold hahahaha :lol: . Reason # 25827 I'm not cut out to be a porn star, that shit's exhausting. 

    Me: 32  MH: 36

    TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: Cycle monitoring, testing w/RE. SA - 19mil, 66% morph

    Dec '18: Letrozole + TI - BFN

    Jan '19: 30lb total weight loss since Aug '18. Natural monitored cycle + TI - BFN

    Feb & Mar '19: Letrozole + TI, BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    May '19: Natural cycle. MH reaches 50lb weight loss since Jan '19. BFN.

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp

    emeraldduchesskpearse99
  • @kiki047 totally agree that it's cold 😆 it doesn't work well for us because our shower is a shower, not a tub. So we're confined to a 3x3 space and it kills my back to bend in that shower.
    TTGP August Siggy Challenge - Camping

    Me: 30 DH:32
    Together since 2007
    Married 7/2/16

    TTC #1 since 7/2017
    Dx: unexplained

    IUI #1-3 all BFN

    IVF #1
    6 total biopsied for PGT-A and frozen, 5 normal - 3 girls, 2 boys

    FET #1
    Scheduled transfer date 9/10/19


  • @kiki047 I never even considered how difficult it may be for short people! haha my legs are almost the same length as my DH's so it's easy for me to just bend over.  But we've also done hands and knees doggie style in the shower, too.  Hey, what better time to get creative?!  But otherwise, we went through a period that we kept paper towels next to the bed haha
    Me: 28   DH: 28
    Dx: PCOS
    TTGP: 9/2015
    Started at RE 5/2016
    *TW*
    BFP: 7/31/16  MC: 8/20/16
    BFP: 12/1/16   DD: 7/30/17
    TTGP #2: 6/2018
    BFP: 4/24/19  MC: 5/19/19


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