Ehh @jgrodo that feels early to me. Physically babies need to eat really frequently when they’re that little - so we wouldn’t wake him up if he slept a longer stretch but I wouldn’t formally sleep train that early without your peds approval. I think our ped okayed sleep training about 4-5 months. DS was STTN (so like 7 hours is considered STTN, right? So he’d still wake up once at night, but he gave us a good 7 hour stretch) at 6 months. He wasn’t sleeping 12-13 hours straight until 8 months I think. That’s when our ped said to “close the kitchen” after bedtime.
There is a 4 month sleep regression that is very real so besides the fact that they should still be eating every few hours, if you sleep train before 4 months, there is a good chance you would have to do it again after.
We did ST around then, four months or so, too, and did a dream feed for a few months after that (giving him a bottle basically while he slept at around 10:30 before we went to sleep. We were lucky and had a basically 11-12 hour sleeper including the dream feed from about then. My pediatrician actually told me that would happen and I could not believe it, and it did. Magic.
STMs and TTMs, did your oldest ever start rejecting your affection during your pregnancy? Last month I was gone for 3 days and ever since I returned, DS has only wanted DH and has not wanted any hugs from me. Also since getting bigger in the pregnancy, I haven't been able to pick him up as much, I haven't had as much stamina to play with him as much as I used to. Now DS won't even let me give him a bedtime hug. Any ideas how to rebuild the bond? Is it going to take giving birth?
@disneybaby84 that sounds so hard! I'm just an FTM so I don't have any advice, but I hope your son stops pushing you away soon.
I have a question: S+TMs, how long did your kids fit into NB sized clothes, if at all? And how long did they fit into 3m sized clothes? My mom says my brother and I were both in 6m sized clothes by the time we were 2 weeks old, and my MIL says something similar about my husband and his sister, which sounds crazy to me. Has sizing changed since then? I'm just trying to get a sense of what to buy.
@jessier19, my 9 pound child skipped newborn clothes and went straight to 0-3 month size clothes. Your Ob gyn might be able to give you a sense of how big your baby is looking to be as you get further in your third tri. My Ob gyn asked me what I weighed when I was born and what DH weighed when he was born. If you and your DH were not on the smaller size then I might buy some 0-3 month, but buy more of the bigger sizes. For my upcoming baby, I have pulled out newborn, and 0-3 month sizes for now, but the box of 3 month and 3-6 month is already open, for when I need it.
DD never fit in newborn clothes and was probably only in 3 month for about 2 months ! My niece was wearing newborn for like 4 months. I think it just totally depends on each set of parents!
oh and I just thought of this. If your child is too big for newborn clothes, they are also too big for newborn diapers. Definitely buy more size 1 diapers than newborn.
Do diaper sizes roughly line up with clothing sizes? Like, if your kid fits into NB clothes they'll be in 0 diapers, and if they're in 3m clothes they'll be in size 1 diapers? There are so many more diaper sizes than clothing sizes, I'm totally confused!
@jessier19 diaper sizes run according to the number of pounds of the child, but also the size of their butt quite frankly. So on that same note, different brand diapers fit different body types. So just like when we go clothing shopping as adults we shop at certain stores according to how they fit our body type, the same is going to be true of the babies and the diaper brands and clothing brands. If you have the Amazon free baby gift box from your registry and open all the packages of newborn diapers and line them up, each brand is going to be a slightly different fit, some thin and narrow, some more middle of road and some slightly bigger.
@jgrodo - the absolute earliest I'd do it would be 4 months. That isn't to say you can't or shouldn't have a bedtime routine or whatever before then... I just wouldn't ST before then.
@jessier19 - I've had two basically 10 lb babies (9 lbs 5 oz and 9 lbs 15 oz) and we've skipped NB clothes & NB diapers - straight to 3 month or 0-3 month clothes and size 1 diapers. I'd say that if you think you'll have a babysaurus, go light w/ any NB clothes/ size 0 diapers - you can always make an Amazon Prime order or make a Target/ Walmart run after baby is here if need be.
And as far as sizing being different now vs. 30ish years ago... YES! It has. I had a knock down, drag out disagreement w/ my mom about this because she SWEARS I came home in 12 month clothes. I was 9 lbs 11 oz baby so sure, I wasn't in NB. But I sure as hell know that by today's standards, a 12 month outfit would have been enormous on me.
Re: diaper sizes... it's basically by weight but a baby's bottom/ thighs can dictate size as well. So can a kid who is a heavy wetter (they might need a size bigger to contain the pee!).
@jessier19 DS was almost 9 lbs and he came home in NB clothes and NB diapers, but was in them for maaaaaybe 2 weeks. We went through NB diapers like wildfire because they just poop so. damn. much. but bought mostly size 1 diapers. We didn't even buy a ton of 0-3 month clothes - he was in 3-6 by the time he was about 2 months.
@BourbonBiscuits and @okayestmom12 I am that mom when it came to sleep training...I felt terrible when he was crying and I just wanted to hold him and not let go and yeah I did it to myself lol. I mean, he's a fine sleeper now just he doesn't go down himself...not sure how that will play out when we have a newborn haha. I understand more now that it wasn't good to go that route but I hope I will hold strong for #2 and trying to sleep train him.
@jessier19 DS was in 0-3 pretty much from the start but he also had hip dysplasia and had to wear a brace and so sleepies/pants were a no-go from the beginning. I gave away all his NB clothes...just keep tags on everything is my advice.
@disneybaby84 I'm sure it is heartbreaking to feel like your bond with your little one is not as good. My kids have all gone through phases where they prefer one parent over another for different things. Don't worry too much, it will pass. Also, it might be a blessing. When new baby comes it is really hard to give the older one all the attention ho on they are used to. It might help him to adjust to having to share you.
@disneybaby84 my dd is on a kick also where she’s only wanting DH. She refuses to let me put her to bed unless I’m literally the only option. It’s prettty upsetting honestly but trying to just use it as a break. I have to admit I have cried about it a few times- thanks to pregnancy hormones
How early can you start sleep training? I had a friend who had a night Nanny and the kids were sleep trained by 3 months .Is that a crazy thought of trying to do it so early?
Yes, that's crazy. You can learn their schedules, but their needs are always changing at that age. Also, there's a weight requirement for most of them as babies who don't weight enough aren't physically ready to STTN and there may be medical concerns as well.
@disneybaby84 - My son was rejecting me until very recently. Both mine have gone through phases of preferring one parent. It's hard, but we just try to ignore it and let it ride itself out (and it always does).
FTM question that I have after reading the hospital bag thread: how long will my maternity leggings still fit? Does the bump immediately turn weird and soft to where the over-the-bump style pants would be too baggy? Should I bring my pre-pregnancy yoga pants to the hospital to wear after delivery, or my maternity pants? Or should I buy a size larger in regular yoga pants?
@hannahbananas11 my stomach was immediately squishy - my full panel naternity leggings were too baggy (trust me, I tried. Nothing is as comfortable as maternity leggings)
ETA I stuck with high waisted leggings/yoga pants when I had to leave the house/couldn’t just wear sweatpants. But in my regular size. I had to size up in real pants once I was in those again because my hips/pelvis expanded
@hannahbananas11 a friend of mine said anything that fit you at 5 months pregnant should fit right after giving birth, which is why I was planning on maternity leggings (makes it easy since that’s all I wear these days anyway). I did buy a pair of blanqi compression leggings during their sale, but I don’t expect those to fit right away. I figure loose is better than tight/compression when everything is still sore.
DS born 2/18/2019 DD born 4/1/2023 Baby #3 EDD 11/21/2024
@hannahbananas11 - My maternity pants fit for a bit, but not that long. I prefer something that sort of compresses the weird squishy belly personally as it gives me a sense of stability when my abs are not functioning yet and makes me less self conscious about the weird fluffiness (that does go away quickly, at least for me). I liked higher waisted, not too tight, leggings if you don't want to splurge on PP specific leggings.
@hannahbananas11 it also depends on if you go c-section or not. B/c of my c-section I had a belly band on a lot of the time after to help with pain from the incision when I coughed etc and for added support since my muscles were essentially useless at that time. So, with that I used more of the foldover/ low band legging, not the full panel- but I never liked those anyway. Also, my legs were super swollen for a few days from all the fluid I needed so having the pant leg be baggier- more boot than tight ankle style was a lifesaver.
TW: 1 infant loss 8/17: Our daughter was born 8/18: Our daughter kicked open heart surgery ass 2/19: We lost our son to Prader-Willi/Paradoxical Vocal Cord/ Noonans at 6wks old 4/26/2020: EDD for baby #3!!!
@hannahbananas11 I definitely didn’t fit pre pregnancy clothes after birth, it took me a little whileto size down. You might want to pack one of each so you can feel comfortable in what you are wearing.
Ahh, that makes sense. I've had 3 months stuck in my head since I heard it. Thanks so much for clarifying! Will aim for sleep training at 4 months and try to have a sleep routine before that, maybe to ambitious.
@danixbanani24 ME TOO - the fluff is real. I'm actually wondering why I didn't think to wear maternity clothes PRIOR lol. So comfy. so much more forgiving.
Sleep training starts at birth. Teaching your baby that it is okay to be alone. Letting him/her play in crib. Not responding immediately when he wakes up. Forming positive sleep habits.
@bhou - I went into labor at night both times, so I didn't have my contacts in. I didn't wear my glasses most of the time either while in labor or during delivery. As long as I could see my iPad (I'm near sighted), I gave no fucks. I put my glasses on/contacts in later.
I can only imagine being in labour with glasses on would seriously suck... but it would equally suck if everyone below my waste was just a blob. I might try to keep my contacts in... since @sjnsjnsjn says it's doable! Lol
@jessier19 my oldest was always in smaller diapers than clothing sizes because she was very long. It’s tricky. I’d stock up on size 1s to start. Sometimes sizing is up is necessary to avoid MOTN leaks. I have never bought NB diapers prior to giving birth because I never know the size of my baby. The hospital should give you a pack or more to take home.
@sjnsjnsjn hahaha "Who in their right mind would wriggle into stiff selvage denim and zero-stretch vintage 501s when leggings—which do so much more than hold me during downward dogs and spin classes—exist? "
This article understands me!
I am definitely going to sneak into labour with my contacts. my glasses CONSTANTLY FALL OFF MY FACE.
Re: Ask a STM week of Dec 3
I have a question: S+TMs, how long did your kids fit into NB sized clothes, if at all? And how long did they fit into 3m sized clothes? My mom says my brother and I were both in 6m sized clothes by the time we were 2 weeks old, and my MIL says something similar about my husband and his sister, which sounds crazy to me. Has sizing changed since then? I'm just trying to get a sense of what to buy.
@jessier19 - I've had two basically 10 lb babies (9 lbs 5 oz and 9 lbs 15 oz) and we've skipped NB clothes & NB diapers - straight to 3 month or 0-3 month clothes and size 1 diapers. I'd say that if you think you'll have a babysaurus, go light w/ any NB clothes/ size 0 diapers - you can always make an Amazon Prime order or make a Target/ Walmart run after baby is here if need be.
And as far as sizing being different now vs. 30ish years ago... YES! It has. I had a knock down, drag out disagreement w/ my mom about this because she SWEARS I came home in 12 month clothes. I was 9 lbs 11 oz baby so sure, I wasn't in NB. But I sure as hell know that by today's standards, a 12 month outfit would have been enormous on me.
Re: diaper sizes... it's basically by weight but a baby's bottom/ thighs can dictate size as well. So can a kid who is a heavy wetter (they might need a size bigger to contain the pee!).
MMC 2.12.11 @ 8w
PVM 5.8.12
GWM 3.17.15
RPM 2.21.19
@jessier19 DS was in 0-3 pretty much from the start but he also had hip dysplasia and had to wear a brace and so sleepies/pants were a no-go from the beginning. I gave away all his NB clothes...just keep tags on everything is my advice.
BFP 6.8.2018 EDD 02.18.2019
BFP 6.8.2018 EDD 02.18.2019
ETA I stuck with high waisted leggings/yoga pants when I had to leave the house/couldn’t just wear sweatpants. But in my regular size. I had to size up in real pants once I was in those again because my hips/pelvis expanded
DD born 4/1/2023
Baby #3 EDD 11/21/2024
BFP 6.8.2018 EDD 02.18.2019
Also, my legs were super swollen for a few days from all the fluid I needed so having the pant leg be baggier- more boot than tight ankle style was a lifesaver.
1 infant loss
8/17: Our daughter was born
8/18: Our daughter kicked open heart surgery ass
2/19: We lost our son to Prader-Willi/Paradoxical Vocal Cord/ Noonans at 6wks old
4/26/2020: EDD for baby #3!!!
ME TOO - the fluff is real. I'm actually wondering why I didn't think to wear maternity clothes PRIOR lol. So comfy. so much more forgiving.
*I HATE GLASSES
BFP 6.8.2018 EDD 02.18.2019
This article understands me!
I am definitely going to sneak into labour with my contacts. my glasses CONSTANTLY FALL OFF MY FACE.
BFP 6.8.2018 EDD 02.18.2019