October 2018 Moms

Breastfeeding/ Pumping General Discussion

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Let’s use this thread for general discussion around breastfeeding/ pumping.  Bring your tips, tricks, strategies, and questions!

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Please remember “Fed is best” - every mom will figure out what is best for her and her baby.  
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Re: Breastfeeding/ Pumping General Discussion

  • Kicking this off with a question posed in the breast pumps discussion:

    I don't think we have a breastfeeding/pumping thread - when do you plan on starting to pump?  I pumped exclusively with my first so it was just a way of life.  With my second I kind of winged it during maternity leave and started pumping on a regular schedule once I was back at work.   Should I pump on a schedule during maternity leave too to increase supply?

  • tropical1982tropical1982 member
    edited July 2018
    Q1. When do you plan on starting a pumping schedule?

    Q2. - I've tried a few things before to increase supply but nothing was a super increase.  I read earlier today about Gatorade (specifically blue) - anyone tried this before and had good/bad results?
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  • Adding to the list of questions.. when did you first try giving baby a bottle? As soon as you started pumping, or did you wait a little and build a stash of breastmilk first? Do bottles really cause nipple confusion? I've heard mixed things. DH is really anxious to help with feeding but I don't want to try and introduce bottles too soon. 
  • Another question- how many extra parts do you guys recommend having for EP/working moms?
  • While I was still home...I did not have a pumping schedule but I did set a time limit and if baby had not eaten within that (2-3 hours, but whatever makes sense for each person) then I would pump to be sure I was keeping my supply up and to get my body used to pumping. That being said, I was not home all that long and so did not do a ton of pumping before going back to work.
  • Are there any easy signs when BFing to know if baby isn't getting enough?
  • Are there any easy signs when BFing to know if baby isn't getting enough?
    I think weighing is the only real way.  Aside from screaming hungry child.   This time I'll be borrowing a baby scale from my brother to do weighed feedings just to make sure he's eating enough.  Weight loss is normal in the beginning but the docs like to see "back to birth weight" within a week.  We also supplemented with formula but with an SNS.  That was a pain but I didn't want him to prefer the bottle so early on.
    kiwi2628 said:
    Another question- how many extra parts do you guys recommend having for EP/working moms?
    I packed the pump, cooler, pumping bra, flanges, and 3-4 bottles with lids plus ice pack.
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  • @chopchop25 like @lisa3379 said there is a different sound (so I have been told FTM here) I HIGHLY suggest to you check out The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding from the library or buy one. It is huge but it goes over everything and is good to read as well as use as a reference while feeding. Also attend a LeLeche league meeting even when pregnant to get a good group of ladies to help out with any issues. I was hesitant to attend one as I am all for breastfeeding but I am also not about boobies everywhere (I still feel there should be some modesty) or the though of feeding a kid 3 or older (personal opinion :) ) I was asked to attend one for our birth class and it is small but it was good to go to and I will continue! Little mommy time out when kid is born and a nice support group to help me with any issues that will come up.
  • britvahok said:
    Kellymom is a great resource for everything breastfeeding related.
    https://kellymom.com/
    I packed 2 extra sets of pumping supplies since I only pumped twice a day at work and didn't want to worry about cleaning supplies during the day. 
    <3 Kelllymom!

    I had access to a private minifridge at my last job so I stored the pump parts in the freezer between sessions so I didn't have to wash them until I got home in the evening. 

    That reminds me - I should bring that up in my discussion with HR tomorrow.  Can I get a minifridge in my office?
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  • So, did y'all breastfeed...then pump if the baby didn't deplete your stash? I'm going to be at home indefinitely, but definitely want Jeff to feed ASAP, so I want a liberal storage of the goods on deck.
  • KFrobKFrob member
    @britvahok YES!  Kellymom is the best!!  

    @kiwi2628 I only had one set of parts which was fine, but having multiples of the shields (and valves) would have been nice for when you're exhausted and don't want to wash them.  

    I also suggest, if possible, to have a couple of sizes of the breast shields ready to go.  I needed the smaller ones and most stores don't carry them.  I had to order them directly from Medela and wait for them to be delivered.
  • I ordered my breastpump through Aeroflow and they emailed me when it was time to order additional supplies and placed the order for me. I had no idea my insurance covered additional supplies until they told me. 
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  • ...what's a breast shield?
  • @sliztee I did that as often as I could, but it was exhausting. I’d get maybe another 2-3 ounces after nursing him if I was lucky, and so we’d used that for his next bottle instead of formula. With DS, though, we never froze the milk because he hated the defrosted stash, so I guess it worked out that I didn’t pump all that much because it only keeps in th fridge for maybe a day. 
  • bel194bel194 member
    ahhh the pumping question just gave me anxiety  :# For those going back to work and having LO go to daycare- does your daycare have a requirement for how much breast milk you have to send in advance?  I want to say the one that we are using wants a weeks worth in advance so that they don't run out, but I have no idea how that will work out.. 

    As a sidenote, my office just got a brand new lactation room last week! After watching my coworkers miserably find empty rooms to pump in for the last year and a half, I'm super excited to use it! 
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    BFP #3: due 10/21/2018 
  • With DS I had a hard time breastfeeding right from the get-go due to flat/inverted nipples. He was getting formula from a bottle day 1 in hospital. At the time I was worried about him getting a bottle SO early and wouldn't breastfeed. But once we introduced the nipple shield and he got the hang of that, it was no issue. I had a milk supply issue and so we were breastfeeding followed by a 20-40ml bottle of formula every feed. Never had any issue with confusion. I think it just depends on the baby. 

    After about 2 months of this, we were able to exclusively breastfeed and get him off the nipple shield. I breastfed for 12 months.

    Someone asked about increasing supply - i tried so many things that didn't work. Fenugreek, oatmeal cookies, blessed thistle...in the end the only thing that worked was a prescription for Domperidone. Worked wonders.

    My question - Any moms with flat/inverted nipples have any tricks/tips to get feeding working right away? I fully expect to need the nipple shield again this time, but would love to get off it ASAP.
  • sliztee said:
    ...what's a breast shield?
    also known as flanges - they part that actually attaches to your breast. Those come in different sizes for proper suction.  The pump usually comes with 1-2 sizes but if you need something different you can order from the pump maker.  I've ordered from Amazon and paid OOP because I wanted it fast.
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  • @bel194 that is an awesome question that I hadn't thought of...how much do you send to daycare? And how long-ish (I know everyone is different) will it take to build that supply?
  • @bel194 wow they want a week's supply upfront! That's a lot! I sent 20-22 ounces everyday and gave my daycare provider 10oz as a backup supply. 
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  • And how do you know which breast shield will fit?
  • @bel194 that is a ton of milk to ask for upfront!  I'm assuming you'll take it to them frozen and they'll thaw it out.  Errrr.  Sounds like more work than they'd want to deal with.

    I'd usually send one day's worth - 3-4oz bottles.  That's how much he needed but also just all that I pumped so I had some single-serve formula in case it was needed (growth spurt).  But usually 12oz was enough.

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  • KFrobKFrob member
    If you google you can find pictures of how it should look when it fits properly vs too big or two small.  Basically you want it to suck up just the right amount of nip  :)
  • bel194bel194 member
    @tropical1982 @britvahok I thought it seemed excessive as well.  I'll have to go look at the new parent packet they give me when I get home, because I could very well have the amount wrong! 
    BFP #1: due 6/17/2013, DD born 6/25/13
    BFP #2: due 6/30/2017, MMC found 12/7/2016
    BFP #3: due 10/21/2018 
  • tlmilltlmill member
    Just a heads up - some BF babies won’t take a bottle. We tried SO many times to get DD to take a bottle, with either pumped milk or formula, and we couldn’t get her to drink it at all. We tried every bottle under the sun. We had no problems getting her to take a sippy cup once that time came, but bottles were a no-go for her. 
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  • This YouTube video basically taught me how to breastfeed and was about the only research I did before DD was born. We made it over a year with no issues! Highly recommend taking the time to watch it!!
    https://youtu.be/OUqRVSeBpY8
  • @tlmill I had that experience with my youngest. She refused every type of nipples that I had previously been successful using with my other kids. I recently heard about MAM bottles that are reported to work when others failed. I don't intend on working, but it would be nice for my husband to share some of the feeding duties.

  • Checkout ‘Global Health Media’ online. They have exceptional videos on breastfeeding from how to latch, how to correct a poor latch, positions, low supply etc. 
    Here’s a link to one about breastfeeding in the first hours after birth. Be warned. LOTS of bare boobs in these videos (if that bothers you), but so helpful to see actual women and real latches!
    https://globalhealthmedia.org/portfolio-items/breastfeeding-in-the-first-hours-after-birth/?portfolioID=10861
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  • eireyeseireyes member
    edited July 2018
    @tlmill I apparently was that kid for my mom. I refused a bottle and literally never took one once. My poor mom, I was a crappy baby - milk allergy and bottle refuser. She still likes to remind me of this 30+ years later  :D

    @tropical1982 I know several moms that swore by the blue gatorade trick. I've never tried it, but I have a feeling it's like everything else - works for some, not for others. I do know that a few of those moms drank so much of it it tinted their milk blue (or at least, they thought it did)!
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  • With DS I started pumping while in the hospital - he was tiny and had blood sugar issues so I nursed/pumped and followed up with formula for about two weeks until I got fed up and quit the formula. With DD, I think I started 3-4 weeks after she was born? They both only fed on one side at a time so I'd feed and then pump on the opposite side when they were done. . For whatever reason I had a harder time responding to the pump with DD than I did with DS, so when she dropped a feeding I usually pumped at that feeding for a few weeks to make sure I'd get enough. (I'm guessing the later start to pumping I just produced less/didn't overproduce like I did with DS.)

    As far as supplies, I bring a couple sets of flanges to work, a freezer pack/cooler and four empty bottles. I'm pretty fortunate that my company provides hospital grade Medela Lactina Select motors (at least they used to, so I'm assuming they still do) in the nursing moms area to use with the Medela hand pumps, so I would leave the pump plunger and tubing at work every day, and just schlep the bottles and washables back and forth.

    I also highly recommend leaving a backup set of flanges and valves (and maybe even a hand pump) at your office if you're working. I can't even tell you the number of times I (or my husband, depending on who packed the bag that day) would forget the damned flanges or valves on the drying rack in the morning. It was such a crappy feeling scouring the pump bag and realizing I was missing an essential piece.
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  • AFM - does everybody leak from the other side during letdown at first?  I only nursed tandem in the early days and didn’t leak during letdown once I was nursing them one at a time, but I also never leaked in general, so I’m not sure if the lack of leaking was because it usually happens at the beginning or because I was just one of the lucky non-leakers.
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  • I was not an over-produce (barely producer lol) so I never had leaking issues.
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  • Probably really weird over here but DH has already claimed any extra milk I can produce for himself so I won’t ever have to worry about it going to waste  :D 
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