Product Spotlight Week of 12/18: Breast Pumps and Accessories!

SmashJam

This is a place for FTMs to ask questions and S+TMs to share the wealth of knowledge they've accumulated on baby products. Each week we'll spotlight a new category of product to help streamline and make it easier to refer back. This week it's.... breast pumps and nursing accessories! (Note: we have another thread scheduled to talk more specifically about formula and formula-feeding accessories.)
 
Please use the prompts below to try to share as much relevant info as you can in a format that is easy for those reading to absorb/respond to. If you'd like to recommend/ask questions about more than one product, please copy/paste the prompts as needed.  

For S+TMs: 

• Favorite [breast pump/nursing accessory]:
• Link/picture:
• Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.):
• What you like about it:
• What you don't like about it, if anything:
• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you don't have but are considering? Why?:
• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you've tried that you absolutely hate? Why?: 
• Additional thoughts on [breast pump/nursing accessory], specifically any tips re: insurance?:

For FTMs:

• How often do you drive/do you want to use your carseat as a carrier: 
• [breast pump/nursing accessory] you're interested in:
• Link/picture:
• Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.):
• Any questions about it/them for S+TMs?:

Our past threads are here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nhSR3UAwJx8UitC9b2hRx57c4hHkK6BU679FjqXMeHQ/edit?usp=sharing

comealongponds

• Favorite [breast pump/nursing accessory]: I used a Spectra S1 to exclusively pump for 14 months, it was amazing. I rented a Medela Symphony for the first two months to establish my supply. 

• Link/picture: https://www.spectrababyusa.com/store/p20/Spectra_S1_PLUS_Electric_Breast_Pump.html

• Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.): $$

• What you like about it: I loved the freedom of the rechargeable battery. It's also super quiet (much quieter than the PISA) and very effective. 

• What you don't like about it, if anything: I hated the pump kits by Spectra so I got an adapter to use my Medela kits (I had them from pumping in the hospital with a Symphony while my boys were in NICU), so much more comfortable for me. 

• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you don't have but are considering? Why?: I bought it all...hazards of EPing, you try everything to make it easier lol

• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you've tried that you absolutely hate? Why?: I'm not crazy about my pumping bra (Simple Wishes) and I'd get a different one if I had to EP again. I also wasn't huge on the Freemie cups. I found they didn't empty me as effectively and I got friction blisters from them if I used them more than two or three times a day. 

• Additional thoughts on [breast pump/nursing accessory], specifically any tips re: insurance?: idk about US insurance but my insurance through my work covered up to $300 for breast pumps (Canada) so I hit my Spectra and a backup manual pump.

acunamatada

For S+TMs: 

• Favorite [breast pump/nursing accessory]:

I had the Medela PIS as my main pump that I got through my insurance but I used my Medela manual pump WAY more. 

• Link/picture:
• Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.):

$

• What you like about it:

Well, it was only like $40. It cleared me out better than an automatic pump. Quieter than an automatic, and much much smaller. Also less parts to clean or keep track of.
I used to pump in between classes in college, I'd be able to keep my pump in my backpack plus my cooler of bottles without looking like a bag lady. 

• What you don't like about it, if anything:

It's manual, so it's a little more work and you can only do one at a time. I found it lost some suction after a while, so I went through 2 by the time I was finished nursing (2yr). 

• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you don't have but are considering? Why?:

If I were to buy another automatic pump I would definitely go with the Spectra. I threw out my old manual pump but I'll definitely be buying another with this baby and I'll use that at work. 

• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you've tried that you absolutely hate? Why?: 

• Additional thoughts on [breast pump/nursing accessory], specifically any tips re: insurance?:

Definitely look into insurance before you make any purchases. 

stillcozy

For S+TMs: 

• Favorite [breast pump/nursing accessory]: I was forever grateful for my nipple shield as i had issues getting her to latch on one side and it helped a ton!
• Link/picture: see attached picture
• Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.): between 8 and 10 but ask at the hospital they gave me some for free! 
• What you like about it: it helped her latch as my one nipple was slightly inverted 
• What you don't like about it, if anything: milk can get stuck in it but baby will get kt
• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you don't have but are considering? Why?: I had a medela pump and had some issues getting the correct size flange. I am interested in tryinng a spectra potentially this time. 
• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you've tried that you absolutely hate? Why?: i did not like some of the nipple creams out their because they were so oily that if i didnt have a nursing pad on it stained my bra or nightgowns 
• Additional thoughts on [breast pump/nursing accessory], specifically any tips re: insurance?: talk to your insurance early to find out what all you qualify for. or go through different breast pump agencies that contact your insurance for you. mine wasnt currently part of one of those. 

amylu914

I am mobile and copy paste is being lame so I'm going off script. I had the medala PIS which was free through my insurance. It did the job for a year of pumping at work but it broke twice and that was stressful. I am looking at the spectra this time around based on reviews I've seen on here and in other places.

Other tips:
Stock up on nursing pads and spend the money on disposables if you can.
If you commute, get a car adapter for your pump. I pumped to and from work and it was a lifesaver. 
Jessica Simpson nursing camis were my fave but I only tried a few. Supportive and cute. 

TheQuietThings

My c&p is wonky.  I can't say enough good things about the spectra.  I've pumped after returning to work with both littles and the spectra made it much easier.  

stillcozy

definitely lived in my nursing tanks too. I also really liked my bamboobies nursing pads too since they were washable but i equally liked the disposable ones 

busymommy23

Im not a FTM but I will be getting a breastpump for the first time. Im able to get one covered through my anthem ins and they are offering me a Spectra S2 or a Medela freestyle deluxe set. So far, from what I am reading, I am leaning towarsa the spectra s2 but was wondering if anyone had used either of these in the past. 

• 
  
• How often do you drive/do you want to use your carseat as a carrier: I will probably use it to help keep supply up and i had low supply with my first 2 but never had a breast pump. Ill also be using it when i return to work after maternity leave.
• [breast pump/nursing accessory] you're interested in: Spectra S2 or Medela Freestyle deluxe set
• Link/picture: ......lol
• Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.): spectra shows $120 on Amazon, the medela freestyle deluxe shows $310 on Amazon
• Any questions about it/them for S+TMs? Did anyone use aerofloe breastpumps to get a breastpump that is covered through insurance? If not, did you use a different site or place? 

busymommy23

TheQuietThings said:

My c&p is wonky.  I can't say enough good things about the spectra.  I've pumped after returning to work with both littles and the spectra made it much easier.  

Did you have the s1 or the s2?

acunamatada

@busymommy23 if you have the choice, 1000% get the spectra. You’ll get much better suction, and a closed system.. Plus doesn’t the freestyle only do one side at a time? If so, really you’re better off with a hand pump IMO.. You’ll have less portability with the Spectra, sure, but it’s all around a better pump IMO. I had the Medela PIS with my first, not the worst but the Spectra I’ve heard is a lot better. The only issue is attachments, Medela has more options for bottles and such. 

busymommy23

Thanks @acunamatada. I think the medela can do both breasts at the same time. My cousin is using the medela now and likes it but the reviews on the spectra s2 seem better, even if close. I like that it offers a natural type suction and that it is one of the quietest. I also like the different functions and that it is recommended for low milk supply issues. This is new territory for me so i appreciate anyd all feedback.

stillcozy

yes both medela freestyle abd PISA can do both sides but I personally had a lot of supply issues that I attribute to having attachment and latch problems

comealongponds

@busymommy23 1000% recommend the Spectra. If you can pay to upgrade to the S1 I would just for the convenience of the battery but they’re otherwise the identical pump so there’s nothing wrong with the S2. I used it handsfree with my pumping bra and just stuck it in the free diaper bag I got from Nestle which worked well enough to get stuff done. I exclusively pumped for 12m with my S1 (first 2 months with a rented Symphony), I’ve got over 1000 hours on it and it still works as well as the day I got it.

stillcozy

@comealongponds was it very much to upgrade? 

busymommy23

@lindsayleigh1989 mine showed a $95 upgrade fee. Im not worried about the battery for that cost. I decided to go with the spectra s1 and it was no cost to me through anthem. I have a secondary but anthem covered it completely. 

ckmb_1250

I have United Healthcare and just ordered a Spectra S2 for free through the Aeroflow website they constantly advertise on here. It says it should ship 6/6 - hope it actually does! I wonder what happens if you end up needing it before then..

busymommy23

@ckmb_knottie i got mine from there too. Mine doesnt ship until 4/25. 

ckmb_1250

@busymommy23 hmm, April would be much better. Guess it's just UHC being difficult, as always 

zombiehoohaa

@busymommy23 & @ckmb_knottie I was iffy about that advertisement however based on your information, I just signed up. Hopefully, I get to select a good one. 

comealongponds

@lindsayleigh1989 I’m in Canada so I bought it from Amazon and submitted through my insurance. I had coverage up to $300 so it didn’t cost me anything. 

michelle_bird

Yeah, UHC doesn't allow for pumps to ship until you're within 30 days of your due date, or you have your baby earlier than that.  Dumb!

I'm still giddy days later about getting a Spectra S2 Plus this time.  My DD was EBF until 6 months and then didn't wean until almost 21 months, so I have all sorts of favorite products and tips. I'm struggling with the template, but here's my input:


Favorite [breast pump/nursing accessory]:  

• I used a Spectra 9 last time, which is a small portable unit. It worked great for me!  Was awesome for pumping in the car and small in my bag at work. Free through insurance.
• I used Freemies when I pumped in the car, but as someone else said, they weren't as efficient so I used the regular cups for all other pumping sessions.  Cost $$
• I *love* my Covered Goods nursing cover and already ordered a new one as a treat for myself this baby. My SIL had bought cheaper and other brands, but admitted when she got a Covered Goods one that the fabric was much nicer and more breathable. (Side Note: This type of cover isn't great at the beginning when you still need to watch the latch often but is a life saver when babies start pushing and looking around). Cost $-$$
• I lived in nursing tanks when I was on maternity leave, but didn't have any I absolutely love. I hated the ones I got at Target though.
• Nip saving trick: put Medela nipple shields and Lanolin in your hospital bag and start using them from Day 1.  Use after every feeding until your nips aren't so senstive (at least 4 days).  This will help prevent blisters!

cseley321

For S+TMs: 

• Favorite [breast pump/nursing accessory]: spectra, hospital grade
• Link/picture:
• Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.):
• What you like about it: it was easy to clean, it was smaller and quieter than the medella hospital grade(sp), and I was able to produce the same amount from both.
• What you don't like about it, if anything: na
• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you don't have but are considering? Why?: no
• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you've tried that you absolutely hate? Why?: no. I used Medella from the hospital, it was great, but I much preferred my spectra
• Additional thoughts on [breast pump/nursing accessory], specifically any tips re: insurance? Get it as early as you are allowed to! Just in case you run into any snags. My insurance offered 4 different pumps and I was able to pick the one I wanted. So be sure and ask what your options are!

runsomewhere

This thread makes my boobs want to run far far far far far far far far away. 

Kenya715

• Favorite [breast pump/nursing accessory]: Spectra S2, hands down! Everyone recommends it because it really is the best. I had a hospital grade Medela for the first few weeks to get my supply going but it was nothing compared to the Spectra. It was stronger, gentler, quieter. 
• Link/picture:
• Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.): Insurance covered it
• What you like about it: I mentioned above - stronger, gentler, quieter. 
• What you don't like about it, if anything: I didn't need the battery but if you'll be driving or traveling, its worth the extra price for the S1
• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you don't have but are considering? Why?: Better nursing tops. They are worth the money even though you don't wear them for too long. 
• Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you've tried that you absolutely hate? Why?: 
• Additional thoughts on [breast pump/nursing accessory], specifically any tips re: insurance?: Get a manual pump as well! There was a Medela hand pump at Target for $29 online. I went to the physical store and it was $49 but show customer service the price online and they will reimburse the difference. It was such a help to have the hand pump for times that I didn't need to pump too much. I could throw it in my purse and use it on the go if needed. 

michelle_bird

FYI: I just ordered mine and this is what it said.

The majority of insurance plans allow you to receive your breast pump regardless of your due date. Please allow 7-10 business days from the date you place your order to receive your breast pump.

If you are a United Healthcare, UMR or Oxford member, these plans will cover the cost of your breast pump if your baby is already born or you are due within the next 30 days. If your due date is more than 30 days in the future, we will begin the order and insurance verification process for these specific plans 30 days prior to the baby's due date. If you have already had your baby or you are due within the next 30 days, total processing and delivery time will be approximately 7-10 business days.

celainev

This is great! I am thinking I’ll most likely have to exclusively pump this time around as last time I couldn’t get my DS to latch and my supply went downhill with only a manual. We had no more extra money to buy a electric pump.

I must say, although nipple shields do help when you’re extremely unable to latch (like my son) they are a pain in the ass. By two weeks my home nurses told me that I’d have to always use the nipple shield if I wanted to continue breastfeeding. And although I had a major letdown, I would have very little milk left after that. So my letdown would choke my baby, get caught up in the nipple shield, soak my shirt even with a receiving blanket tucked in, and pretty much made attempting to breastfeed hell. I don’t regret my decision to go to formula. It saved my sanity and made me a better mother. But I will never try a nipple shield again. That is not a permanent solution IMO. 

ethnomusicwhat

Thanks for this thread!  I'm a third time mom, but this will be my first time attempting to pump. I have absolutely bare minimum supply, due to surgery I had when I was 21 (milk ducts severed, almost lost my right nipple).  Regardless, I tried to EBF my first, and he lost almost 1lb, 13 oz in 9 days.  Some milk did come out, with both DS1 and DS2, but precious little. (I will *not* go through that again, in case anyone is interested in trying to convert me.  It won't happen. At no point with either of my first two boys did I ever experience let down, engorgement, or anything. Milk in quantity is just not there. Apologies if that comes off as defensive, but I'm just speaking from experience.)

However, I'm interested in pumping this time around, and adding any milk I *am* able to get to little man's diet because after both my previous boys' births, I had crazy issues with my metabolism.  I'm hoping that pumping will help my body adjust postpartum.

I'm thinking of a Spectra, based on reviews and recommendations here, if my insurance will cover it.  My main question is regarding frequency of pumping.  How often do you pump?  I'm not going to have any physical cues from my body on this--my breasts will not get sore if I go x amount of hours without breastfeeding/pumping, I will not get engorged, etc. 

acunamatada

@ethnomusicwhat good for you for even giving it another shot! I think how often you would want to pump would depend on how much you plan on supplementing with. I would say in the beginning to establish a supply you “should” pump whenever baby feeds but I know how insanely time consuming that would be, especially in the beginning. Because you don’t plan on EP, I’d say set up a schedule that works for you and go from there. 

ethnomusicwhat

Thanks, @acunamatada. It's a bit selfish this time, because I'm hoping it will keep my postpartum body from going nuts. I expect the baby will be mostly formula fed, and then whatever little breastmilk I can manage to produce. 

zande2016

@ethnomusicwhat definitely not trying
to discourage you from pumping but just know that some women don't lose weight while breastfeeding. My body held on to every freaking ounce of fat it could while I was exclusively nursing, and didn't let me start shedding pounds until I got my period back 9 mos postpartum. just don't want you to put too much stock in it or pressure on yourself. I thought I was broken because my body was not working the way I read it did for other women. 

Edited bc hit post too soon

ethnomusicwhat

@zande2016 That's helpful to know, and I'll work hard to keep that in mind.  I'm not trying to lose weight, per se, but rather trying to  keep my body from going into the full-on freak out it's done with my previous 2 pregnancies. I'm talking tracking my calories, running, and still putting on 20lbs in about 2 months, followed by a steady rise.  Had my thyroid checked, was only told it was "fine," (no details, like how close I was to the threshold). Basically, I can talk a doctor into a test or two, but then everyone assumes the chubby girl just isn't trying hard enough.  My second son is 6, and I was finally able to lose some weight (17lbs) before I got surprise pregnant again. I'm also hoping it will help me emotionally.  But again--I know everyone's body will respond differently.  I'm just hoping trying something different will give me a different result. 

lucky13mama

Just thought I’d mention based on a comment I saw above from a nurse- using the nipple shield for even a few weeks or months doesn’t mean you will *always* have to use it for all babies. I used it for a month or two and then didn’t need it anymore. Some babies can figure it out and I have that nurses or doctors or LC make blanket statements that might deter someone from trying something.

I’m hoping insurance will cover a Spectra S1 or S2 this time as I had the medela pisa last time. It was fine, but from what I hear from everyone I might like the Spectra better especially since I’ll have newborn twins and an almost 2 year old to take care of so I might pump more than I bf. 

Definitely use lanolin cream and if it hurts check the size of your flanges! The hospital should help you make sure you’re doing it right and can give you some extra tubing and parts.

zande2016

@ethnomusicwhat I had a really similar experience, I do have thyroid disease but my levels were totally fine and I was
doing weight watchers and could not lose an ounce. My endochronolgoist was basically like
you must be eating to much. I wasn't. I think it was hormonal and my body trying to store everything for milk production, as soon as my period came back I lost 5 pounds in one week. Maybe I would have experienced that with or without breastfeeding. It's crazy how much our bodies go through having these babies.

Re nipple shields. I was given one in the hospital bc my son wouldn't latch. He eventually latched with the shield but it took me 3 weeks and doing my own research to figure
out he had a tongue a lip tie. I saw like 3 or 4 staff lactation consultants in the hospital and none of them even looked inside his mouth. By the time I figured it out and got it fixed, he was totally dependent on the shield and it took until he was 5 months to get him to nurse without it. Those nipple shields drove me nuts. I hated them with every fiber of my being. I wish we had identified the root cause from the beginning because I view them as a bandaid. At least in my case. I know they're a controversial topic even among nurses and lactation consultants but just thought I'd share my experience. If you have trouble latching,
look inside the baby's mouth and see if the lip and tongue look tied too tight. Google photos so you know what to look for. 

busymommy23

I had the exact opposite with the nipple shield. I have small nipples and was suggested to use one to help with nursing. I did use mine all of the time but thats because it was what i needed to have in order to breastfeed. When we tried without, my nippple was too short and couldnt get in the right position. I used one with both boys and will probably make sure to have on hand this time as well. I always try to start without but even with an using a LC, we end up back using the shield. Im ok with it because it means that i can breastfeed. 

acunamatada

I used nipple shields too, but only for the first couple weeks and only at night because my nipples couldn’t take it and Tylenol wouldn’t cut it. They were great for what they were for me, but I have to agree they’re a huge pain in the ass. 

lovesclimbing

*lurker*

I just thought I'd add my experience with a nipple shield. 

Nursing was painful from the first time she latched on. By the time the midwife came to my house for the 24-hour visit, I had blisters and was cringing and grimacing every time she sucked, so she gave me a nipple shield to help protect them so it'd be less painful and help with slightly inverted nipples and her latch. We got a tongue and lip tie snipped, we did everything. I'm pretty sure she just had a bad latch. She would take several sucks and then make a smacking sound. It sounded, looked and felt like she lost suction and then she'd suck really hard to get it fully back into her mouth, and that's what hurt the most, although nursing in general was very painful too. 

Nursing shields are NOT supposed to be for long term use. At my one-week appointment, they said I should start weaning off of it. 

So what I did was use it until the pain went away, which took 3-4 days, and then stop using it for 3-4 days until the pain built back up and repeat. Slowly, the time with and without it lengthens, but I wasn't able to stop using it completely until 2.5 months. Now, she's seven months old, and I haven't used it since. 

I don't know if I would have been able to continue nursing without it. Nursing was very important for me, and I went through a lot for 2.5 months, but it was unbelievably painful without it. I probably would have pushed through without it, but it would have been exponentially harder and more painful than the very high difficulty and pain with it. 

zande2016

@lovesclimbing sorry to hear about your painful experience. I went through hell and back on my nursing journey for months before things were smooth so I know how tough it is. Just wanted to share this article, for some babies fixing the tie isn't enough and the before and after work is just as important. My baby was a tether berg for sure!!

https://www.michalechatham.com/blog/tether-berg-or-tether-floe

wildtot

Favorite [breast pump/nursing accessory]: I tried the electric but didn’t like being stuck in one place. I loved my medela hand pump!

Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.): Electric was free with insurance, but hand pump was ~$40 (like it so much i had 2 sets!)

What you like about it: Hand pump was easy to work with. Easier to take traveling (i would pump on the plane in my seat). 

What you don't like about it, if anything: too many parts.

Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you don't have but are considering? Why?: Got offered the Spectra S2 this time. Considering it since i hear it’s better. 

Is there a [breast pump/nursing accessory] you've tried that you absolutely hate? Why?:  Washable pads. I had such bad leakage they didn’t work for me but i like the idea. I will be avoiding wired nursing bras, too painful. 

Additional thoughts on [breast pump/nursing accessory], specifically any tips re: insurance?: Wish i used the nipple shield a lot sooner. Maybe i would avoided the pump earlier on. Recommend easy cleaning wipes and microwave bag if your traveling or pumping at work. Buy cheap storage bags, they work just a good. I personally don’t believe in nipple confusion. DS had issues latching early on so i switched to bottles within the week. Around 3/4 months i tried latching him and tada! It worked no issues or pain. Idk why but I’ll take it. We also did pacifiers early on. I do want to say that there is no shame if you breastfeed or not, if you try or not. I eventually switch to formula because BF was making my anxiety worse. 

Edited to make it easier to read. It looked like an essay 

lovesclimbing

zande2016 said:

@lovesclimbing sorry to hear about your painful experience. I went through hell and back on my nursing journey for months before things were smooth so I know how tough it is. Just wanted to share this article, for some babies fixing the tie isn't enough and the before and after work is just as important. My baby was a tether berg for sure!!

https://www.michalechatham.com/blog/tether-berg-or-tether-floe

Interesting. Thanks for the link.

We were recommended other things like chiropractic care and such, but at some point, I felt like, why should we keep throwing money at this issue when nothing is working? Like the nipple shield helped with the pain because it protected the nipple, but it wasn't magic and it didn't help with what it was supposed to. It didn't train her to latch well within a couple weeks. The tongue and lip tie helped a minuscule amount. For various reasons, we were pretty broke and the tongue and lip were insanely expensive (not covered by insurance). So it kind of felt like this -  Tongue and lip ties are supposed to be the silver bullet. Everyone talks about them and it's supposed to be amazing. My sister, everyone has stories about them or someone they know where it fixed everything. And then it didn't work for us. So then it's, oh, well chiropractic care might help. They need the alignment. This helps so many babies. Etc. ... But ... that's the same thing said about tongue and lip ties, and that didn't work. Am I supposed to keep throwing money at this and hope things work? What if it doesn't and then, oh, here's the next silver bullet, here's the REAL silver bullet. 

I'm not saying the above thought process is right. Maybe the next thing would have worked, but that's how it felt in the moment. 

To be clear, my baby was fine. She wasn't fussy or gassy or colicky from it (we never dealt with any of that). She got everything she needed and gained weight just like she should (even more - 90th percentile for weight.) And I was able to endure it, obviously, because I'm still nursing her. 

I genuinely feel that she just had a bad latch and that some babies just have issues. When my childhood best friend was a baby, she had a lazy suck. Her mom would try to get her to nurse and she would never do more than a couple little sucks. Her mom would go as long as she could trying to make her nurse and she couldn't or wouldn't even hungry, and then she'd pump and bottle feed. She kept this up for a long time before switching to formula. I was honestly completely shocked to hear my mom, who is a HUUUUGE nursing proponent almost to a fault, say that my bf's mom kept up the trying and pumping for way longer than she (my mom) ever would have, so that tells you how unfixable the issues were. 

So I just think my baby just had issues, and some babies do.

zande2016

Oh trust me I hear you, between the actual procedure (we got fully reimbursed but it took months and months), countless home visits with the lactation consultant, weekly chiropractor visits, etc...we spent probably a couple thousand trying to fix it. But I felt in my gut that something was wrong and needed to be fixed so I kept trying everything. What eventually worked for us was ONE cranial sacral therapy session. It sounds nutty but this guy spent 45 minutes with my baby and later that day he nursed better than he ever had, and it just kept getting better from there. 

Edited to tag @lovesclimbing

zombiehoohaa

For anyone with Kaiser Permanente, the Areoflow company does not work with Kaiser. I received an email stating they were not a partner. So I will have to go through Kaiser directly.