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Chart Stalk & Questions Thread - Week of 3/13



I'm already seeing a lot of CS requests this week, so let's get this thread started!

This is a thread where anyone can feel free to request a chart stalk, second-guess FF's interpretation, or post TTC-related questions, regardless of where in your cycle you are. Sometimes FF is wrong. That's where we come in. Get your second opinion here.
Me: 23 | DH: 30
Married: 11/5/2016
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Re: Chart Stalk & Questions Thread - Week of 3/13

  • I'll play because why not... FF says 4dpo I say 2dpo... thoughts?

    *TW*
    TTC 1/2012
    Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
    6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
    TTC #3 5/2016
    Restarting Fertility tx
    IUI#1 2/17
    IUI#2 4/17
    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6437bb

  • @wabash15 Hmmm... that's hard because nothing is agreeing. CD18 is the only day you have 2 symptoms aligning. But with temps and CM sort of leaning towards CD16, I can see why FF has your CH there. This is looking very similar to your 8/21 chart. Give it a couple more temps to adjust and see. Your timing is fantastic though!
    Me: 23 | DH: 30
    Married: 11/5/2016
    TTC #1: 11/2016
    Stalk my chart?

    Dx Anovulatory/NIR PCOS 4/17
    50mg Clomid 6/17
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    Question: How much does Advil and Tylenol affect morning temps?
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    Married Aug. 2013
    TTC #1 Sep. 2016
    BFP Jan. 15, 2017; MMC Mar. 9, 2017 at 11 weeks
    TTCAL Mar. 2017
    My chart: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/63f71d


  • Sorry it's so huge!! FF says I ovulated on C14, I'm thinking more C15 or C16. I had a pos OPK on C14 (it was the darkest line I've ever had although still not as dark as I would have liked- I'm fairly certain it was at least the same color as the control line). The lines got lighter the following days. I also had cramping on C15/C16. I'm somewhat new to temping so I would love any input!

  • I need help ladies. Depending on the method I use (research vs advanced), I'm getting predictions of CD 22, 23, 24 & 26. I really don't think it's CD26 but I can't figure out the other options. Any ideas?



  • @cdnrunning I would guess CD22/23 but based on CD22's temp I would lean towards CD23.. It's hard to say without any OPKs.  The temp drop of CD26 could be throwing FF off but sometimes I have weird temp drops at 3/4dpo myself.  Anything different that day?
    Of course I'm no expert but if it was my chart that's what I would think unless your temps change in the next couple of days.

    TTC Baby #2: April 2016
    BFP 02/10/2017, EDD 10/24/2017, MC 02/16/2017
    BFP 03/13/2017, EDD 11/22/2017, MC 03/31/2017


    starla
  • @starla I don't know... I guess if you were febrile it would, but if you were not it wouldn't...
    @autumn230 I would say CD14. 15 is a possibility too but you start having a temp shift with 14 (slow rise).... 
    *TW*
    TTC 1/2012
    Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
    6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
    TTC #3 5/2016
    Restarting Fertility tx
    IUI#1 2/17
    IUI#2 4/17
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  • @mispanda Looking back at a handful of charts, it doesn't seem uncommon for me to have a temp drop at 4-6dpo. Thanks for the input - I think I'm leaning to CD22/23 as well. I think too many days without EWCM for CD26 to be likely. Such a mystery this month. What I really want is for O to be CD19 ;) but I'd be plenty happy with option 2. I might go back to OPKs next month so I don't end up spending hours doing chart analysis!


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  • Question! Who wants to talk me through OPKs? I want to add them next cycle, but I'm not sure where to start. Wondofos? CBD? With this cycle being the way it is, I'm worried about false surges and having days of "positives" in a row adding to my crazy. I'm also worried about $$$ having to pee on them 3 times a day for 30 days straight. Best advice?
    Me: 23 | DH: 30
    Married: 11/5/2016
    TTC #1: 11/2016
    Stalk my chart?

    Dx Anovulatory/NIR PCOS 4/17
    50mg Clomid 6/17
  • LaurenEG14LaurenEG14 member
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    LoveInDC- I don't have the most experience with OPKs but I can give you the little bit of knowledge I do have. 
     I used the easy @home ones from amazon and they worked great and are very inexpensive. Plus the reviews are good. One thing that did add to my crazy when I was having an-o cycles was that I kept getting "almost positives". When I finally did get my positive last weekend, it was without a doubt. It was the only one I had that was noticeably darker than the control. So if you aren't sure if it's positive, it likely isn't. Another thing that I have learned is that between 10 am- 2 pm is the most likely time to catch your surge. The day that I got my positive I took one with fmu and while it was positive, the one 2 hours later at 1030 am was much much darker. My surge was pretty long but I have read that it can be very short so during what you think is your fertile period, you may want to take a few a day. Of course everyone has different experiences so I'm just giving advice based on what I have learned from my time with them. You could be different, which I'm sure you know. I hope some of this helped!
    Me: 27 DH:28
    Dating 03/31/2011 Married 10/18/2014
    TTC #1 02/2017
    BFP 4/19/17 EDD 12/31/2017

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  • zwink1zwink1 member
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    @LoveInDC, @LaurenEG14 covered a lot of the basics.  Learning to use them is a lot of guess and check.

    If you're just starting out with them, are concerned about the cost, and think you'll be able to interpret the lines, going with the wondfos or easy @home tests (they're basically the same thing) is fine.  They're testing for the same thing as the as more expensive brands (caveat - some opks also test for other hormones) and it's much less of a financial investment than the CBD. That being said, if they're not working for you, trying new brands can be the key. It will probably take a few cycles of opks and temping to figure out if they're accurate for you and how much of a lead time they give you.  

    If you ovulate fairly regularly, most people suggest starting to use them about 6-10 days ahead of when you expect to O. Some women have a very short surge and need to test multiple times a day to catch it. Others will have positives for 2 days.

    Read the instructions with whichever brand you choose, but most say not to use fmu, and typically a 4 hr hold is recommended.

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    Me: 28 H: 31
    NTNP: 3/15-10/15
    TTC #1: 10/15...
    Dx: MFI, ovulatory dysfunction

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  • Thanks @LaurenEG14 and @zwink1 for all the awesome info! I think I'll start with cheapies then and see if I'm lucky enough to see a pattern next cycle :)
    Me: 23 | DH: 30
    Married: 11/5/2016
    TTC #1: 11/2016
    Stalk my chart?

    Dx Anovulatory/NIR PCOS 4/17
    50mg Clomid 6/17
    LaurenEG14zwink1
  • @LoveInDC thanks so much for asking this. I was coming here to ask this exact question!

    Thanks to @LaurenEG14 & @zwink1 for sharing your experiences. I'm going to add them this cycle. 
    Me: 34 DH: 31
    Married 11/2011
    TTC 11/2016
    my chart
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  • @LoveInDC - To add onto all of the wonderful info the other ladies have already said, I read in one of the OPK leaflets that LH surge usually happens in the early morning hours while you're sleeping, but can't be detected in urine until about 6 hours later, which is why fmu isn't ideal for OPKs.
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    Married: 12/14/16
    TTC Since: 01/2017
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  • I have a question about FF and temping.
    (*TW* I'm pretty sure my periods are still regulating from previous pregnancy *End TW*). So in Feb I had 2 periods, one at the beginning of the month for about four days, then one at the end of the month that lasted 15 days. Obviously I used the end of the month as my last period, but I'm wondering if that's going to actually work out right or not as far as what CD I'm on currently. So should I wait for my next period and start temping on CD1? Or can I start whenever still and it'll work itself out? 
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    DS Born Feb. 28, 2016
  • @CecilB93 Was the 15 days all bleeding or was there some spotting? How many months pp are you?


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    @beachbunnyxo123 No, I haven't noticed anything but I was wondering if taking it could be causing some of my erratic temps. 
    *TW*
    Me- 33 DH-32
    Married Aug. 2013
    TTC #1 Sep. 2016
    BFP Jan. 15, 2017; MMC Mar. 9, 2017 at 11 weeks
    TTCAL Mar. 2017
    My chart: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/63f71d


  • @cdnrunning it varied so much. The last at least 5 days were moderate flow, before that it was very light, but enough to be more than spotting. I'm 12 months pp, not BFing any more (as of about 3 months I believe).
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    DS Born Feb. 28, 2016
  • CecilB93 said:
    I have a question about FF and temping.
    (*TW* I'm pretty sure my periods are still regulating from previous pregnancy *End TW*). So in Feb I had 2 periods, one at the beginning of the month for about four days, then one at the end of the month that lasted 15 days. Obviously I used the end of the month as my last period, but I'm wondering if that's going to actually work out right or not as far as what CD I'm on currently. So should I wait for my next period and start temping on CD1? Or can I start whenever still and it'll work itself out? 
    It doesn't really matter how long your period lasts for FF, it just wants to know the start date. I used to have 14+ day periods and I temped throughout. Are you using OPKs? If you haven't O'd yet you can start temping now and possibly see a shift depending on when you O. If you have O'd, you can at least start temping now and get into the habit in preparation for next CD1. So bottom line: Sure, start temping and see what happens!
    Me: late 30s | H: early 30s
    TTC #1 since April 2015
    RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016
    IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN
    IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal
    Polyp found at mock embryo transfer, FET paused until removed

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  • @eggplantface not currently using opks, im thinking I may order some though, I've always been irregular, so I'm not sure how it'll be once it regulates again. Thanks!

    Also, does anyone use the FF app for iPhone? I could NOT figure out how to put in my temp!! It showed me a screen with arrows but no numbers. I had to go to the website through Safari which is just a pain in the butt, lol.
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    DS Born Feb. 28, 2016
  • @Cecilb93 try clicking on the day and then the temp box and you can just type in the temp there.... 
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    TTC 1/2012
    Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
    6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
    TTC #3 5/2016
    Restarting Fertility tx
    IUI#1 2/17
    IUI#2 4/17
    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6437bb

  • I have a few questions for you ladies today.

    With evening primrose oil, when in your cycle do you take it? I know it's taken to increase CM, so do you stop taking it once you've ovulated, or do you take it every day? I read that you shouldn't take it while pregnant, so I'm guessing that you'd stop after O.

    And now, any advice on choosing an RE? The bulk of my info so far is based on Yelp reviews. It seems kind of weird to pick where to get tacos and where to get myself pregnant from the same site, but oh well. Any advice on other sites to check?

    A quick rundown... (possible *TWs* below)

    The practice where my OB refers her patients (I don't need a referral because I'm 100% OOP for infertility treatment) only has reviews going back to November, and a review of one of the other two choices of clinics mention how one area clinic deleted their Yelp page and started a new one with the consequence of resetting their Yelp rating... (There are only four reviews, two good, two bad, and one of the bad ones is basically a woman who was upset about her CP and took it out on the practice, in my opinion.)

    My other two options both have good ratings that date back a few years. One has a female doctor, which is my preference (and more reviews), and the other has a male doctor. My OB doesn't personally know the female doctor, but she's had patients successfully get pregnant with the male doctor.

    My best friend works for another OB office near me, so I'm also going to check with her and see where her practice refers patients.
    Me: 26 || DH: 26
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    BFP 4/21/17 - EDD 12/28/17
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  • @MJDsquared I started taking evening primrose oil the day my period ended and took it up until the day of O. 
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  • @MJDsquared as for picking an RE... take yelp reviews with a grain of salt. Sometimes it a location thing, otherwise if you have options I would see if you could meet with two good options and then see who you gel with the best... also ask about how their practice is run... do you feel like you need more hand holding and lots of face time with your RE or are you OK if in the practice you seen an ultrasound tech and an nurse most of the time. My last RE was a male ( I generally prefer female doctors) but he was great and honestly with IF you get over being bashful... your on AF with baseline ultrasounds, you have multiple people in the room for procedures... so in the end for me gender didnt matter it was the relationship we had that was important. 
    *TW*
    TTC 1/2012
    Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
    6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
    TTC #3 5/2016
    Restarting Fertility tx
    IUI#1 2/17
    IUI#2 4/17
    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6437bb

    MJDsquared
  • @beachbunnyxo123 It was earlier that day. I was thinking cd16 as well but then FF confused me!
  • @wabash15 Ugh, I just went back and looked and the screen is WAY different!! My app must have been glitching this morning. There was literally no where to type! Thanks!
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    DS Born Feb. 28, 2016
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  • I know I don't have CH yet but I'm very confident I have Oed already based on previous cycles and just the way my temps look right now. The thing that confuses me though, is that I always have a slow rise pattern and I know that O is generally indicated as the day before the temp rise but you will see on my chart that it rises for 3 days before it reached the elevated temp its at now. Even though my BBT on CD16 wasn't the higest in the past 6 days, is it possible I oed on 15? 

    Sorry if the chart is huge. 


    Me: 30yo
    DH: 37yo
    Married: 07/16/16 
    TTC #1: April 2016
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    @JJMNO1616 I'm not the best at this, but I would say CD14 and 15 are possible. If you put in two high temps for the next two days (e.g. 98 degrees), does FF give you CH?
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    Me- 33 DH-32
    Married Aug. 2013
    TTC #1 Sep. 2016
    BFP Jan. 15, 2017; MMC Mar. 9, 2017 at 11 weeks
    TTCAL Mar. 2017
    My chart: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/63f71d


  • @Starla Wow I didn't know I could skip ahead and do that!  :D I put a high temp in for tomorrow and got CH for CD15. So I guess what kind of confuses me now is why couldn't it be CD14? It seems like it's already on the rise by CD15 but the temp just isn't that "high". However, with a slow rise pattern would the temp always be higher then the past 6 days?
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    DH: 37yo
    Married: 07/16/16 
    TTC #1: April 2016
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    @JJMNO1616 Learn something new every day. :) I don't know how far into the future FF will let you go. I think it's picking CD15 because you still had EWCM. Your coverline will probably be around 97.5 so FF might also be picking the last temp (i.e. most recent) below coverline.
    *TW*
    Me- 33 DH-32
    Married Aug. 2013
    TTC #1 Sep. 2016
    BFP Jan. 15, 2017; MMC Mar. 9, 2017 at 11 weeks
    TTCAL Mar. 2017
    My chart: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/63f71d


    BusinessWife
  • starlastarla member
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    @JJMNO1616 Also, make sure to correct the temps on FF when you enter your real temp tomorrow. It may have saved the current time when you just entered the temp for tomorrow.
    *TW*
    Me- 33 DH-32
    Married Aug. 2013
    TTC #1 Sep. 2016
    BFP Jan. 15, 2017; MMC Mar. 9, 2017 at 11 weeks
    TTCAL Mar. 2017
    My chart: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/63f71d


    JJMNO1616cdnrunning
  • @Starla Yep, it's putting my CL at 97.5. Your good at this! Ok, well this means my O date actually moved up this month. Hopfully it stays this way for 2 more cycles so DH and I can get good timing before that Bachelor party.  :)
    Me: 30yo
    DH: 37yo
    Married: 07/16/16 
    TTC #1: April 2016
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  • kvacmakkvacmak member
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    Okay I have some questions about CM. I have been *trying* to assess it daily, but I feel like I have no idea what I am looking at/for lol. This might be *TMI* but how do you guys check? just on the TP after you go to the bathroom? in your underwear? Or do you actually insert a finger and see what you get? I feel like in any of those ways I'm not getting enough to decide what type it is? It is possible thats because I'm not fertile yet so I'm not producing that much... Is it one of those 'when it's EWCM you'll know' type of things? 
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  • @kvacmak I have to use a finger to check it daily because I don't make much. Some cycles I'll see the EWCM on the TP so I don't have to check, but you're right, you know it when you see it. Also check out mybeautifulcervix for photos (but not at work!). 
    Me: late 30s | H: early 30s
    TTC #1 since April 2015
    RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016
    IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN
    IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal
    Polyp found at mock embryo transfer, FET paused until removed

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  • @kvacmak  I feel like this was asked very recently and I can't retype my answer right now lol. Can you try the seach bar?  "CM TP" ??
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    Me: 33 | DH: 40 ~ Married / NTNP #1: 05.30.2015 ~ TTC #1 November 2015

    5/16 - Began Creighton Method CM Tracking / Napro Fertility Medicine | Progesterone + various abx cycles - all BFNs
    8/16 - SHG: ute good, at least one tube open | Adrenal saliva test: chronic stress cortisol levels -> started adaptogens
    10/16 - azoo dx confirmed. more bw + TRUS to determine differential dx. 3/17 - genetic labs, renal & repeat scrotal u/s.
    No known genetic cause found. Vas tubes appear absent on repeat exam. DH started Clomid in prep for MESA/TESE
    4/17 - Initial RE Consult for me. | DH's F/U bw shows great T response! but also elevated FSH, making the possibility
    of a successful vas reconstruction less likely, IHHO. | Waiting for DH's exploratory/retrieval attempt till after 06/06/17.





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  • Due to advice from the wonderful ladies in WTO, I am considering starting to temp this month. I have a lot of questions so I moved over here to ask some. First of all, my biggest concern is getting stressed out by it. Is it absolutely critical to temp the whole month? Basically, I am wondering if I can temp a week before expected O and then stop when O is confirmed? Or does it not work that way? Also, how does waking up in the middle of the night affect it? My cat is really needy and it is ridiculously common for him to step on my face in the middle of the night and wake me up. Plus my DH is an on call fireman so his coming and going in the night can wake me up multiple times a night. Just trying to figure out if it is something that will work for me. Thanks!
    Me: 27 DH:28
    Dating 03/31/2011 Married 10/18/2014
    TTC #1 02/2017
    BFP 4/19/17 EDD 12/31/2017

  • @LaurenEG14. You dont know until you try, but for me even if I woke/ stirred it was okay so long I didn't get up and walk around.  I always tempted the whole cycle so the chart would be complete, but there are others who stop once O is confirmed.  I may have seen it backfire tho, and since you have some concerns maybe about what's going on, I wouldnt advise leaving big holes in the data. ;)  set a soft temping alarm every single day so the time is consistent, and you can always go back to sleep on the weekends etc. ;)
    "Perky Sassy Sugar Socks"

    Me: 33 | DH: 40 ~ Married / NTNP #1: 05.30.2015 ~ TTC #1 November 2015

    5/16 - Began Creighton Method CM Tracking / Napro Fertility Medicine | Progesterone + various abx cycles - all BFNs
    8/16 - SHG: ute good, at least one tube open | Adrenal saliva test: chronic stress cortisol levels -> started adaptogens
    10/16 - azoo dx confirmed. more bw + TRUS to determine differential dx. 3/17 - genetic labs, renal & repeat scrotal u/s.
    No known genetic cause found. Vas tubes appear absent on repeat exam. DH started Clomid in prep for MESA/TESE
    4/17 - Initial RE Consult for me. | DH's F/U bw shows great T response! but also elevated FSH, making the possibility
    of a successful vas reconstruction less likely, IHHO. | Waiting for DH's exploratory/retrieval attempt till after 06/06/17.





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  • @BusinessWife @kvacmak I asked if anyone uses the TP method in the CS/Q thread last week!

    I use my finger, which is why I asked because I couldn't imagine the other way working for me.
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