**General TW that this thread can and will mention MC and loss.***
This is a place for those of us who have already started TTC, but have started infertility testing and/or treatments. You can express your thoughts, feelings, and frustrations on infertility. TTC can be a long journey naturally, then add in the difficulties associated with infertility and it becomes a whole new ball game. The road to infertility can be lonely, frustrating, and complicated, so let's make this a place where we can vent, ask questions, and support one another. Feel free to resurrect this thread at any point in the week if you have something to say, and treat this like an ongoing conversation.
Diagnosis (If you've been):
Cycle/CD:
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?)
How are things going?
Any questions?
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter?
Re: IF/Testing Check-in Week of 10/3
Cycle/CD: cycle 15 / cd8
letrozole 7.5mg, hopefully IUI #2
Been busy at work so I haven't been around much, but it is keeping me from obsessing so that's good
I am worried that cd11 follie scan will be too late. Last they had my trigger in CD11 WITHOUT letrozole and this cycle they have upped my dosage to 7.5mg. I am thinking of calling and seeing about coming in earlier just to be safe but I just don't know..... I would really hate to miss it. I have using OPKs and they are still super faint but who knows.
What to do ?? what to do ??
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter?
Not teally. Closest thing is when my puppy does things my old dog used to do (like jump in the pool with a tennis ball or lay on the back couch cushion). It makes me tear up, even though it's more likely that she likes tennis balls because she is a dog and that's what dogs do lol.
Cycle/CD: 6/33
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter? I don't think so. When my dad was growing up they always had noises and things coming from their attic so they decided they had a family ghost, who they named and affectionately considered a part of the family.
Eta my check in lol. Whoops.
Cycle/CD: 12/10 CD 15
I hate that I already feel out! I'm pretty sure I'm only 3dpo, so I have no reason to feel so. Other than I can't ever imagine finally get that BFP. Overall I'm happy with how our first injectable cycle went. Good response, fast response, early IUI. But if it doesn't work, and we had four good Letrozole and IUI cycles and three good injectable and IUI cycles (let's hope this is the only one), then I'm going to wonder WTF goes on.
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter?
Ive had a few actually. No extraterrestrial sightings but I've had weird paranormal incidents. Best example, right after my Poppy died, my sister and I were in their kitchen. It was a ranch style home so while I was standing upstairs in the kitchen I could see down a flight of stairs to the front door. The door was heavy, and closed. We were arguing and my sister called me a bitch. As soon as the words left her mouth, the front door slammed open. My grandparents were very religious and proper. It would have gotten her into a lot of trouble if one of them caught her using that word. So we felt like it was our Poppy putting her into her place lol.
Me:31 H:31
DX: MFI - 1% Morph
12/16 -IVF #1 - Antagonist Protocol w/ Lupron trigger
ER - 11 retrieved- 9 mature - 7 fertilized - 3 sent for PGS on day 5 - No normals (1 XXX Embryo - may use in future)
3/17 - IVF #2 - Antagonist Protocol w/ HCG trigger
ER- 13 retrieved - 11 mature - 8 fertilized - 2 sent for PGS on day 5 -2 Normal
FET #1 - 5/16/17 - BFP! - Beta #1 5/25 - 156 - Beta #2 5/30 - 2562 - Beta #3 6/1 - 5191!
Diagnosis (If you've been): DOR
Cycle/CD: 6/16
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter?
Not that I can recall. Last year I was in New Orleans and stayed at a hotel that was notoriously haunted and I was terrified I was going to see something but they left me alone.
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
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@mrsdaddario I think we all start to feel that same way. It's easier to think about the next cycle, instead of throwing all the eggs in the "this cycle" basket. For me, I think it hurts a little less, if I'm not fully invested.
Cycle/CD: 10/10dpo
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter? Nothing that I can think of. I did use to have a lot of deja vu.
@ClaireCF Glad you have a friend you can talk to about this in real life.
Cycle/CD: 13/11
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter? No - I love scary stuff (horror movies, etc) but if I actually experienced anything myself I would probably freak.
Me: 32 DH: 30
Married since September 2015
TTC since September 2015
Diagnosis (October 2016): Unexplained Infertility
Protocol (November 2016): Clomid 100 mg & IUI
@mrsdaddario I think we all get used to having to think one step ahead so we don't miss our next shot to conceive--like, ok, if this cycle fails I need to be ready to go in for my baseline, and what interventions are we doing next? Do we need to change it up? etc. I also agree with everyone that it becomes really hard to imagine ever getting that BFP, and perhaps it is a coping mechanism. I've definitely noticed a more "glass half empty" attitude on my part to avoid monthly heartbreak.
@laurad75 Before you do the trigger, there are lots of good videos online you can watch. I found them super helpful. The nurse at my office also did a verbal walk through with me and gave me a step-by-step diagram. It ends up being a lot easier than you think, and in my experience the needle is really not that big. You can do it!
Diagnosis (If you've been): MFI--low motility
Cycle/CD: 16/6
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter?
I once stayed in a friend's house that apparently has a poltergeist. They hadn't mentioned it the first night and I had a kind of thought that there might be a ghost, but nothing happened while we were there. Also, Last Podcast on the Left had a great episode the other week, I think, about a poltergeist in Yorkshire. Definitely worth checking out.
Diagnosis: Unexplained IF.
Cycle/CD: 13/10
GTKY: Oh gosh, yes, I have had several "otherworldly" encounters that I can't explain. One was in Père Lachaise cemetery, the very old and famous cemetery in Paris. My friend and I were walking through a very quiet and empty area of the cemetery, both wearing sneakers, when we both whipped our heads around at the exact same time to see who had just come up behind us, as we suddenly heard the "clip-clop" sound of a man walking in nice shoes right behind us, and just could feel that someone was walking too close to us even though the area was deserted. But when we turned, there was no one there. We looked at each other, confused that we had both heard and felt the same thing at the same moment yet saw no one, and started walking again. A moment later, we heard the man's footsteps behind us again. We looked back, and all around us, and there was NO ONE THERE. We both started sprinting and ran full-speed until we reached the exit of the cemetery. I have no explanation for what we heard and felt, but it was absolutely terrifying.
I mean, If I took my last dose of letrozole Sunday night, are my estrogen levels really going to have risen to a decent level by Tuesday?
Cycle/CD: month 10. 24/8
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter?
In high school we went to this abandoned house that was supposed to be haunted. Looked around and didn't see much. We were downstairs and heard what sounded like boxes sliding across the second story floor. Looked again and things were completely across the room from when we were up there the first time.
Promptly left.
BFP #2: 4.14.16 CP: 4.17.16
BFP #3: 6.10.2016 CP: 6.17.16
RE appt: 6.27.2016- saline sono all clear
Progenity: + carrier Tay-Sachs, Gaucher's, hemachromatosis. DH: carrier Alpha 1 anti-trypsin
PCOS, hypothyroid, MTHFR, hx of LEEP in 2006
Clomid + TI Cycle #1: 50mg Trigger 8.24.2016- BFN
Clomid 75mg + IUI#1 9.25.2016- BFP #4 10/6
Beta #1 15 Beta #2 38 Beta #3- 71 beta #4 171 Beta # 5- 21 Natural MC 10/21
HSG- clear
IVF Jan 2017
Egg Retrieval 1.22.17: 32 eggs retrieved,29 mature, 24 fertilized, 14 to blastocyst for biopsy
PGS results: 4 PGS normal 2 XX, 2 XY
FET: 3.13.2017 for 2 PGS embryos
Beta#1: 3.24.2017......... 78; Beta # 2 241; Beta #3 4198
Baby BOY due 11.29.2017
Sorry about the progesterone woes :-( I definitely noticed the increased letrozole this cycle. not fun at all, but it still pales in comparison to the progesterone side effects.
@furbabymom2007 I'm glad your RE was able to reschedule for you. Good for you for advocating for yourself and what makes you comfortable!
@mrsdaddario Sorry you feel out already. I definitely know what you mean about not imagining a BFP, but we're all rooting for you!
@laurad75 Your temp spike could just be from waking up earlier than planned. Hopefully it was nothing and your IUI will go as planned. FX for you!
@persnickity Yay for a plan!
@courtney7784 I'm so glad the HSG wasn't a big deal for you and your results were good! It really is a relief to just get it over with!
@YesOuiCan It's weird because my H and I are on the same, yet opposite pages from you and your H. He is extremely optimistic that we will get pregnant on our own soon, while I am not so much. But on the other hand, I am more hesitant to start treatment, while his take on it is that if we can get the ball rolling faster, why wouldn't we? Basically he ends up leaving the final decision to me, and I still haven't made up my mind. I'm waiting for our follow up next week. All of that novel to say that I wish you luck making the best decision for you and your H, and I hope you won't even need any of it!
Cycle/CD: Month 15/Cycle 12, CD 25
GTKY: I know it's a boring answer, but no.
**TW**
Testing with RE October 2016
BFP 11/5/2016 ~ EDD 7/19/2016
@furbabymom2007 i'm glad you will be seen earlier
Diagnosis (If you've been): Me - Lean PCOS; DH - MFI, using donor sperm
Cycle/CD: CD... Andddd I've lost track.
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter? OK so I'm not one to believe on paranormal shenanigans, but so weird shit has gone done on our house since we moved in. Kids toys going off without anyone around (toys you have to engage with or hit hard... Brand new batteries so WTF). The TV going on in a different room. Doors opening and closing on their own. Our attic light randomly went on and when DH when to hit the switch off it blew. My brain can't accept that kind of stuff, but I just can't explain this stuff away and it irritates the hell out of me.
BFP #2: 4.14.16 CP: 4.17.16
BFP #3: 6.10.2016 CP: 6.17.16
RE appt: 6.27.2016- saline sono all clear
Progenity: + carrier Tay-Sachs, Gaucher's, hemachromatosis. DH: carrier Alpha 1 anti-trypsin
PCOS, hypothyroid, MTHFR, hx of LEEP in 2006
Clomid + TI Cycle #1: 50mg Trigger 8.24.2016- BFN
Clomid 75mg + IUI#1 9.25.2016- BFP #4 10/6
Beta #1 15 Beta #2 38 Beta #3- 71 beta #4 171 Beta # 5- 21 Natural MC 10/21
HSG- clear
IVF Jan 2017
Egg Retrieval 1.22.17: 32 eggs retrieved,29 mature, 24 fertilized, 14 to blastocyst for biopsy
PGS results: 4 PGS normal 2 XX, 2 XY
FET: 3.13.2017 for 2 PGS embryos
Beta#1: 3.24.2017......... 78; Beta # 2 241; Beta #3 4198
Baby BOY due 11.29.2017
MFI High DNA fragmentation and dropping counts
Cycle/CD:
(does anyone else have to look up their cycle number each time? I'm seriously losing count) Cycle 18/ CD19
TWW 5dpIUI
Letrozole 7.5mg ovidrel IUI
Seriously SS like a banshee over here
And I can't even begin crazy early POASing because of the trigger... Waiting is so hard.
GTKY: I'm copying this story I shared with the ladies in the T-TTC board a few months back, so some of you have heard it.
One fall, DH and I took a walk at our local arboretum (it's very large, probably (200 acres) in the evening. We hadn't been there much, but assumed there was a simple loop through the woods. It became dark much quicker than we expected and the trails crisscrossed, looped around and had almost no visible trail markers. We soon found ourselves very lost, (we later discovered this section of the arboretum was actually called the lost woods.)
We found a two-track and began walking along it, when suddenly we realized there was a group of people walking several yards behind us... in dead silence.... Some of the women and children were wearing amish style clothing, and we were only able to see them, because an old man in the front of the group was carrying an old, glowing, oil lantern. We stepped off the trail, terrified and wondering who these random people were walking silently through the forest, trying to decide if we would ask for help. Then, the old man, as the group passed by, quietly said, "Kind of late to be out here...... Don't get lost!"
It was so strange and terrifying that, I almost said nothing and let them pass by, but luckily I plucked up my courage asked for directions back to the parking lot. Besides the old man, no one else in the group spoke, which I still find very, very odd. I'm still not sure it wasn't a group of ghosts
MFI (High DNA Fragmentation) & Mild endometriosis
Aug 2016 - May 2017 6 IUI's with letrozole - BFN
April 2017 - laparoscopy to remove mild endo
June 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU - Cancelled early ovulation, no eggs retrieved.
Aug/Sept 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU, cetrotide - 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature
5 eggs ICSI'd 6 eggs frozen - 1 day 5 blast transfered, 2 expanded blast frozen - BFP!
May 2018 - Baby girl born - Our Joy
TTC #2 since July 2019
July 2019 - FET - BFN
Jan 2020 - FET - canceled due to family health issues
Mar 2020 - FET - low beta - chemical pregnancy
July 2020 - ICSI'd remaining 6 eggs - 3 fertilized - 2 survived to early blast stage, transfered both - Chemical Pregnancy
@ReesaAnne16 yes to not being able to remember my cycle number! I always have to look. I'm testing out my trigger this time and it is almost gone. Last time I didn't and that definitely helped me avoid early testing, I'm thinking maybe I shouldn't have bothered but I'm trying to wait!
Cycle/CD: 18...I think. I'm with @ReesaAnne16 on this. I keep having to go back and re-count. CD 34 which has been my longest cycle so far, but crap keeps coming up negative.
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter? OMG yes. It might have just been me coming out of a dream, but if felt pretty dang real. I woke up and looked above my bed an there was this horrible face above me. I couldn't move, couldn't breath, couldn't speak. Probably the most terrified I've been in my life.
@Elyse1384 FX for your beta Thursday!!
@ReesaAnne16 I check the CD count, but the month lined up nicely with the calendar, so I don't have to check that. The closer to the test date, the harder it is to wait.
ETA The one I attend is all women, but I've seen others that focus just on MFI and are for couples.
@mrsdaddario Here is the one we are looking for https://www.resolve.org/?referrer=https://www.google.com/
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
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Cycle/CD: 1 AL (over a year before that)/ CD23 4 DPO
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter? I don't think so....but I definitely believe in ghosts. Good and bad ones!
Edit- my post got cut off!
Cycle/CD: cycle 25... or 26? CD7
GTKY: In the spirit of Halloween and spookiness, have you ever had an extraterrestrial or other worldly encounter?
We lived in one place that was seriously creepy. Like, no one ever lives there for longer than a year. We had no idea because we were new in town, but people talk about this house (like a freaking movie, but it doesn't look creepy at all). Anyway, the gas stove would turn itself on every night. We literally had to unplug it. The faucets would turn on in the guest bathroom. One time my little sister and I had a "sleep over" in the living room. We fell asleep and I remember hearing my mother open her bedroom door (right off the living room), walk in front of us down the hallway, into the guest bathroom and then back again in front of us. Then I hear a huge bang like she punched the wall. Apparently noone else heard because everyone was still sleeping soundly even though it was deafeningly loud. I fell back to sleep. When I woke up her door was wide open and my curling iron was laying in her bedroom and she had a huge hole in the door about the size of a basketball. I asked her why she got so mad and did that (assuming she thought my curling iron was left on or something and that's why she threw it and got mad), but she said she was asleep the whole night after taking a benadryl and never got up. So we have no idea how the hole got there and why my iron was laying on the floor. We found a new house like a week later. I now have suspicious she did all that creepy stuff, but she swears up and down it wasn't her.
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
@JDW0325 I'm very sorry for your loss! I'm also sorry you have to wait it out another cycle. I hope you get your rainbow baby soon.
@KristoB I'm sorry you're in the MFI camp, too--and also dealing with RPL! It sounds like your H is taking Clomid? Our RE said our urologist might suggest that for DH. But we don't see said urologist until next Wednesday--but if he does recommend that route, I'd definitely be interested in talking about it with you. What has been your experience this far?
thank you! hey, maybe it will happen this cycle and I won't even need my RE help! We are still trying this cycle, just on our own!
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
Mostly we're going in to say, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Can you make this better so we don't have to do IVF? If it is the medication that's a problem, we can't really do anything about that. He has to take it. I'm hoping something like Clomid will combat those side effects. I'm glad to hear Clomid did have a positive impact on your H. We know so little about this, so I'm looking forward to talking with a urologist who specializes in infertility.