@themisssarahkThe best part of your ridiculous grammar nazi argument is that you keep making spelling errors while trying to act all high and mighty! qfp
It's to bad there's no vaccine for Jenny McCarthy syndrome.
And it's TOO bad there is no vaccine for the propped( not correct word) use of to/too/two. I honestly still don't know who Jenny McCarthy is. All (missing the word of) this is beyond the point. I answered the OPs( missing an apostrophes) question with what I believe, which is that it is okay to question the vaccine and to understand it before making the decision. The end.
Your argument holds zero water here.
OP don't listen to one person who is risking her children's lives and others because of her choice. Our infants if we don't get the vaccination or boosters while pregnant run the risk of dying and catching dead and gone diseases, that vaccines had been preventing. All because of people like her who refuse to vaccinate.
You want to see what it looks like when a baby who can't get vaccinated gets whooping cough look here and if you can rationalize doing this to your child I have zero respect for you.
Alright people, when I was born in the late 80's the varicella vaccine was just coming into the rotation of early childhood vaccines. My mother did not give me the vaccine because my pediatrician told her that he personally hadn't seen it used enough to see what the risk/benefit profile was. At four years old, my mother rushed me into the emergency department with a blisteringly high fever, complete inability to take in liquids or solids, and extremely delayed reaction to stimuli (lights, sounds, etc). I had gotten the chicken pox, an especially rough case, and some of my pox had become infected (don't know how, my mother kept me pretty clean, I was told that my blisters resembled plague filled pustules, so I think I was just really, really fucking sick).
Here's the really scary part: My mother was given two options after I was seen by MULTIPLE doctors in the e.r., some who had been called down from PICU; Option A was to admit me for hydration and pain management until my inevitable death. Option B my mother could take her 4 year old home to die with family, because it was Christmas Eve and there was nothing they could do at the hospital besides cut through my pain until I died.
My mother took her child home to die on Christmas Eve, put me in a cold bath, and lanced every single one of my chicken pox to drain the pus, so at least I wouldn't look so swollen in my casket. Thankfully, draining the infection saved my life, and my fever broke by morning. Merry Fucking Christmas, your doctor advising you not to vaccinate almost killed your kid. I NEVER missed a vaccination after that.
So little miss 'I don't vaccinate my children' I hope you don't have to learn the same lesson my mother did. Most likely your kids will just get a preventable illness that they can fight just fine, but kills the immunosuppressed kid in their class. And before you argue that immunosuppressed kids aren't in school, my friend in 3rd grade attended every class she could while fighting BRAIN CANCER, which she miraculously survived AND didn't get any archaic illness from all of us because my school required all children have vaccinations. Boom.
Your attitude chafes my hide not because I know better from the hundreds of thousands of qualified people doing very good research, but because I have lived through a completely preventable situation. I. Almost. Died. because someone with YOUR mindset was working in a trusted profession. You can bet I switched pediatricians after that.
O.p., none of that was directed at you. You have stated multiple times that you plan on vaccinating your child. I think I can speak for your child when I say 'thank you'. Ask your doctor about the vaccine while pregnant. No question or concern is 'too silly' to be voiced, they will appreciate the discussion, whatever you choose, as opposed to you just refusing the vaccine outright.
@Nerdchild hugs! I am assuming most of these people against vaccinating either don't have kids and don't have a clue or have been extremely lucky to have healthy kids.
Since my 5yr old started school we have been fighting one thing after another. Right before Christmas this year he brought home another cold and my 1yr old and 3yr old were admitted into the hospital with RSV and pneumonia shortly after. It was the scariest thing in my entire life. Watching them struggle to breathe, having to hold them down while they were screaming and scared to death so the Dr could breathing treatments and such on them. I would have done anything, ANYTHING, to be able to prevent it or take it away from them. ANYTHING. I couldn't imagine the guilt I would have felt if I could have prevented all that with a shot that I refused.
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@Nerdchild how awful! Thank you for sharing your experience so others can avoid it! I can't even imagine what your mother had to have felt and gone through!
@Nerdchild hugs! I am assuming most of these people against vaccinating either don't have kids and don't have a clue or have been extremely lucky to have healthy kids.
Since my 5yr old started school we have been fighting one thing after another. Right before Christmas this year he brought home another cold and my 1yr old and 3yr old were admitted into the hospital with RSV and pneumonia shortly after. It was the scariest thing in my entire life. Watching them struggle to breathe, having to hold them down while they were screaming and scared to death so the Dr could breathing treatments and such on them. I would have done anything, ANYTHING, to be able to prevent it or take it away from them. ANYTHING. I couldn't imagine the guilt I would have felt if I could have prevented all that with a shot that I refused.
I'm so very sorry y'all had to go through that. Vaccinate people! Save the immune compromised that can't do anything to defend themselves.
Okay, so you all realize that most kids who get chickenpox today have been vaccinated, right? They may get a less severe case, but they still run the risk of getting an infection regardless of vaccine status. Also, there is no vaccine that can prevent the common cold, and an RSV antibody shot is only offered to premies, so although it's unfortunate, that could not be prevented with a vaccine either. Believe me, I know it's scary and heartbreaking. One of my babies had rsv that i assume they got from my cold when they were really little. While I'm sorry that happened, have any of you ever had a child who has had a vaccine reaction? My son having the mthfr mutation is more susceptible to vaccine reactions. Have you ever had a kid who developed terrible digestive problemsright after a vaccine? And bad eczema? And stopped talking? And started intense head banging? All from one vaccine where his poor little leg swelled up abnormally for days? My kid had a vaccine reaction, and although years of detoxing has gotten him so much better, I will never ever risk that again. I won't risk another baby of mine going through any of that to prevent an illness that they may or may not get and could probably fight on their own. I certainly won't risk my own children's health for the well being of any other kid. My priority is to protect my own, and the best way I can do that is to not vaccinate them. If that makes me selfish, or gives me less compassion than one of your dogs, then I really don't care. I hope that none of you ever have to experience the other side of what vaccines can do to your body or to your kid's body. It's terrifying to realize that you did something to them that could not be undone, and they suffered because of it.
stopping talking and head banging are not side effects from vaccines. Are you now trying to slyly throw autism symptoms in with vaccine side effects?
Okay, so you all realize that most kids who get chickenpox today have been vaccinated, right? They may get a less severe case, but they still run the risk of getting an infection regardless of vaccine status. Also, there is no vaccine that can prevent the common cold, and an RSV antibody shot is only offered to premies, so although it's unfortunate, that could not be prevented with a vaccine either. Believe me, I know it's scary and heartbreaking. One of my babies had rsv that i assume they got from my cold when they were really little. While I'm sorry that happened, have any of you ever had a child who has had a vaccine reaction? My son having the mthfr mutation is more susceptible to vaccine reactions. Have you ever had a kid who developed terrible digestive problemsright after a vaccine? And bad eczema? And stopped talking? And started intense head banging? All from one vaccine where his poor little leg swelled up abnormally for days? My kid had a vaccine reaction, and although years of detoxing has gotten him so much better, I will never ever risk that again. I won't risk another baby of mine going through any of that to prevent an illness that they may or may not get and could probably fight on their own. I certainly won't risk my own children's health for the well being of any other kid. My priority is to protect my own, and the best way I can do that is to not vaccinate them. If that makes me selfish, or gives me less compassion than one of your dogs, then I really don't care. I hope that none of you ever have to experience the other side of what vaccines can do to your body or to your kid's body. It's terrifying to realize that you did something to them that could not be undone, and they suffered because of it.
stopping talking and head banging are not side effects from vaccines. Are you now trying to slyly throw autism symptoms in with vaccine side effects?
Sounds like she's comparing herself to a dogs level of compassion, which makes no sense at all.
The nonsense coming from her... I also got bad eczema as a child but I can assure you it wasn't from a vaccine and while I am sorry that your child has had a rough go but until I see full on evidence all of those issues are due to a vaccine I don't believe it.
Unfortunately you get to choose what to do with your own child even if that means putting them at risk for diseases . Worse though is You then went state how you don't care that doing this put others peoples children's at risk.
I just can't with you anymore ugh I'm disgusted by the level of selfishness.
I am 100% aware that I most likely would have still gotten chicken pox had I been vaccinated, I just would not have gotten so severe an infection that I would have been considered as good as dead by multiple e.r. and PICU doctors. But, god forbid I survive a vaccine reaction that leaves me somewhere between mildly uncomfortable and surviving with lasting damage. I totes think given the option between a dead child and one with cognitive delay my mom would have rather buried me. Oh, wait, no, sorry, I was confusing my mom with Hitler again, my bad.
It's so nice that modern medicine has given you the opportunity to take advantage of these vaccines. The fact that you are more concerned about vaccine reactions than the diseases they prevent mean that vaccines have done their job over the years. Maybe you should do more research on how many children died horrible deaths due to these diseases before these vaccines were created. We are lucky now because of this wonderful thing called herd immunity. But the CRAZY thing is, in order for herd immunity to continue working, PEOPLE HAVE TO BE VACCINATED. The more people that choose to not vaccinate because they can't look into legitimate scientific research, the more immuno-compromised people are at risk for contracting these horrible diseases and DYING. But you just continue to put other people at risk. Good for you.
@themisssarahk dirty deletes as you have done now on multiple threads are highly frowned upon and not okay with the admin this is why people quote you! Because that way what you write stays visible.
@Lindsayleigh1989On my end it looks like her existence has been wiped out entirely, which probably means she blocked me. Boo hoo, I can't see her nonsensical comments on how her precious snowflakes should be allowed to sneeze sicky germs on a bunch of other kids so that they don't get rashy from their vaccines. I'm crushed.
@Lindsayleigh1989On my end it looks like her existence has been wiped out entirely, which probably means she blocked me. Boo hoo, I can't see her nonsensical comments on how her precious snowflakes should be allowed to sneeze sicky germs on a bunch of other kids so that they don't get rashy from their vaccines. I'm crushed.
@Lindsayleigh1989On my end it looks like her existence has been wiped out entirely, which probably means she blocked me. Boo hoo, I can't see her nonsensical comments on how her precious snowflakes should be allowed to sneeze sicky germs on a bunch of other kids so that they don't get rashy from their vaccines. I'm crushed.
My guess is the admin deleted her comments entirely because I can't see them either, but its not just a blank post, there's no post from her at all. It's a shame because I would have loved to keep going at it, especially her BS MTHFR causing vaccine reactions nonsense but if she can't actually reply, it kind of defeats the purpose.
When will (or have for previous pregnancies) you guys get the tdap? My ob said 27/28 weeks. Is that too early? I'm thinking about asking to delay it until 31/32 weeks.
@Lindsayleigh1989On my end it looks like her existence has been wiped out entirely, which probably means she blocked me. Boo hoo, I can't see her nonsensical comments on how her precious snowflakes should be allowed to sneeze sicky germs on a bunch of other kids so that they don't get rashy from their vaccines. I'm crushed.
My guess is the admin deleted her comments entirely because I can't see them either, but its not just a blank post, there's no post from her at all. It's a shame because I would have loved to keep going at it, especially her BS MTHFR causing vaccine reactions nonsense but if she can't actually reply, it kind of defeats the purpose.
I think she must have been marked as a troll by the BGs. If someone is troll marked their comments don't show up at all.
When will (or have for previous pregnancies) you guys get the tdap? My ob said 27/28 weeks. Is that too early? I'm thinking about asking to delay it until 31/32 weeks.
I got mine at 28 weeks. I think they just wait until 3rd Tri because risks for many things go down then.
When will (or have for previous pregnancies) you guys get the tdap? My ob said 27/28 weeks. Is that too early? I'm thinking about asking to delay it until 31/32 weeks.
You should be able to delay it to a time when you're comfortable taking it.
When will (or have for previous pregnancies) you guys get the tdap? My ob said 27/28 weeks. Is that too early? I'm thinking about asking to delay it until 31/32 weeks.
I've heard everywhere between 28 and 36 weeks depending on the norms for your practice. I think the trend is moving more towards doing it on the earlier side so the baby has some protection in the event of preterm labor but I could be totally wrong on that.
When will (or have for previous pregnancies) you guys get the tdap? My ob said 27/28 weeks. Is that too early? I'm thinking about asking to delay it until 31/32 weeks.
I'm 30 wks and haven't received it but my doc did say third tri. There is still time and I'm checking to see what other family members need to get it too.
When will (or have for previous pregnancies) you guys get the tdap? My ob said 27/28 weeks. Is that too early? I'm thinking about asking to delay it until 31/32 weeks.
Also, my daughter is immune compromised (HSP vasculitis with no identified trigger yet) and we still vaccinate on schedule. We NEED others to vaccinate. Something like pertussis lands us in the children's hospital for the actual infection AND then for the inflammation, breakdown of blood vessels in her joints, kidneys, bowels, stomach and brain. Her immune system goes nuts and keeps attacking her vital organs. An unvaccinated child with measles, pertussis or polio could have dire consequences for my child. Looking at her you would never know. She's perfectly healthy other than this thing that kicked our butt in August and we've had relapses over common cold, strep and even bronchitis. My doctor tells me flu or pertussis could prove potentially fatal.
That's why anti-vaxx sentiment makes me want to tear my hair out. I'm literally listening to people (who want to talk to me about their "research") that tell me their degree from Google University puts them in a position to CHOOSE to take my daughter's life into their hands because they want to. That infuriates me.
When will (or have for previous pregnancies) you guys get the tdap? My ob said 27/28 weeks. Is that too early? I'm thinking about asking to delay it until 31/32 weeks.
Stms - my husband and immediate family got the tdap shot two years ago when I was pregnant with my son. Are any of you having them get it again? I, of course, already got my tdap shot this time around.
Re: Are you getting the tdap shot in third tri? *when will you get the tdap shot (what week)?* Thanks!
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themisssarahk said: Your argument holds zero water here.
OP don't listen to one person who is risking her children's lives and others because of her choice. Our infants if we don't get the vaccination or boosters while pregnant run the risk of dying and catching dead and gone diseases, that vaccines had been preventing. All because of people like her who refuse to vaccinate.
You want to see what it looks like when a baby who can't get vaccinated gets whooping cough look here and if you can rationalize doing this to your child I have zero respect for you.
trigger warning this hard to watch!
eta: Words are hard and to add trigger warning.
Here's the really scary part: My mother was given two options after I was seen by MULTIPLE doctors in the e.r., some who had been called down from PICU; Option A was to admit me for hydration and pain management until my inevitable death. Option B my mother could take her 4 year old home to die with family, because it was Christmas Eve and there was nothing they could do at the hospital besides cut through my pain until I died.
My mother took her child home to die on Christmas Eve, put me in a cold bath, and lanced every single one of my chicken pox to drain the pus, so at least I wouldn't look so swollen in my casket. Thankfully, draining the infection saved my life, and my fever broke by morning. Merry Fucking Christmas, your doctor advising you not to vaccinate almost killed your kid. I NEVER missed a vaccination after that.
So little miss 'I don't vaccinate my children' I hope you don't have to learn the same lesson my mother did. Most likely your kids will just get a preventable illness that they can fight just fine, but kills the immunosuppressed kid in their class. And before you argue that immunosuppressed kids aren't in school, my friend in 3rd grade attended every class she could while fighting BRAIN CANCER, which she miraculously survived AND didn't get any archaic illness from all of us because my school required all children have vaccinations. Boom.
Your attitude chafes my hide not because I know better from the hundreds of thousands of qualified people doing very good research, but because I have lived through a completely preventable situation. I. Almost. Died. because someone with YOUR mindset was working in a trusted profession. You can bet I switched pediatricians after that.
Since my 5yr old started school we have been fighting one thing after another. Right before Christmas this year he brought home another cold and my 1yr old and 3yr old were admitted into the hospital with RSV and pneumonia shortly after. It was the scariest thing in my entire life. Watching them struggle to breathe, having to hold them down while they were screaming and scared to death so the Dr could breathing treatments and such on them. I would have done anything, ANYTHING, to be able to prevent it or take it away from them. ANYTHING. I couldn't imagine the guilt I would have felt if I could have prevented all that with a shot that I refused.
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Unfortunately you get to choose what to do with your own child even if that means putting them at risk for diseases . Worse though is You then went state how you don't care that doing this put others peoples children's at risk.
I just can't with you anymore ugh I'm disgusted by the level of selfishness.
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My guess is the admin deleted her comments entirely because I can't see them either, but its not just a blank post, there's no post from her at all. It's a shame because I would have loved to keep going at it, especially her BS MTHFR causing vaccine reactions nonsense but if she can't actually reply, it kind of defeats the purpose.
Married: May 16th 2015
That's why anti-vaxx sentiment makes me want to tear my hair out. I'm literally listening to people (who want to talk to me about their "research") that tell me their degree from Google University puts them in a position to CHOOSE to take my daughter's life into their hands because they want to. That infuriates me.
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